April/May 2012 Chemo hang out

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  • LyndaMarie
    LyndaMarie Member Posts: 92
    edited April 2012

    My port insertion went well. I am a bit sore but I am so glad to have the port. I had three IVs last week and by the third they had to try twice. It took two times to get a vein today too. And the first stick, she hit a nerve. Never had that happen before. Ouch. I will be glad to be done with IVs for awhile.

    I start the first round next week. I have heard the AC is rougher than the taxel but the neuropathy side effect is distressing. I am a musician (violin/viola) and cannot afford numbness and tingling in my fingers. I am going to talk with MO next week about icing fingertips.

  • Rose12
    Rose12 Member Posts: 95
    edited April 2012

    Hello Ladies,

    A girl I work told me her friend had breast cancer and she went and got fresh ginger in the grocery store and cut is real thin. She would suck on it and it helped with her neausa. I will be trying this. I don't know if anyone would like to try and let me know if it worked. Its worth a try. Let me know. 

  • sandik
    sandik Member Posts: 482
    edited April 2012

    Lynda, glad your port went well. Mine is still sore since Monday.

    Florida, keep us posted on how that goes. I really really hope everyone's side effects calm down.

  • Tammy2012
    Tammy2012 Member Posts: 22
    edited April 2012

    You're welcome Lisa!

     I had my second round of chemo on Tuesday.  Thank god it's going better than the first round.  I didn't eat for 5 days.  This time I didn't eat for 3 so big improvement.  Maybe next round i'll be able to go straight to lunch?  haha  

    On top of all the nausea i've been having....my hair starting hurting me.  It started falling out on Tuesday but it just hurts so bad to the touch.  My Dr advised shaving it, so i had my brother shave me yesterday.  It worked!!!!  No more pain on my head or hair!!  :) 

  • LisaG65
    LisaG65 Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2012

    thats great news that you were less sick tammy!! its been less than a week since my first round, but my head and scalp were hurting, i had waist long dread locks, and the weight of them were causing stress bumps on my scalp out of the blue. i know its chemo related. so last night after everyone was sleeping i cut all 54 of them off, really close to my scalp and combed out the knots that were left after soaking in the tub with a head full of conditioner, let me tell you, i feel sooo much better this morning, i slept good with out my hair/scalp hurting. but my har looks so crazy cause i just cut them out randomly. not sure if i will go in for a hair cut to shape it up or just wait, i have clippers but i dont want a picky head just yet. my hair is sooo soft right now.

  • beth1965
    beth1965 Member Posts: 455
    edited April 2012

    LyndaMarie- I know exactly how you feel. I am an artist, that is how i keep my sanity and make a living for many,many years now. I need my hands to work. I start chemo on april 11th i was told by the chemo teacher i would probly get a cold glove put on if it would effect me. I will let you know what i find out.

  • Tammy2012
    Tammy2012 Member Posts: 22
    edited April 2012

    Wow Lisa!!  I'm glad you feel better.  I know my pain was because of my hair too.  I had long, very thick hair that my husband cut up to my shoulders...but i still had to much.  Once i shaved it...no pain.  I used the #2 blade so it's not clear down to my scalp.  I'm so glad i did it!  Glad to hear you got a good nights sleep too.  My dr told me to put aloe on my scalp if it was still hurting.  

    Well, my nurse is here for my hydration therapy so hope everyone has a great weekend and a Happy Easter to all!!!  

    I feel bad for my family cause i can't even think about Easter and food...makes me nauseaus.  I'm gonna have my hubby go buy one of those ready made meals so my family can have a decent dinner while i sleep.  :( 

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited April 2012

    Felt so much better yesterday i made dinner for 7. Today is day 5 and i plan to bake cupcakes. Who would have thought? I am skipping the family get together due to my nadir periid and there being 16 kids several babies attending. I will do thanksgiving cancer free.

  • SadeSurvivor25
    SadeSurvivor25 Member Posts: 119
    edited April 2012

    Still feeling sluggish with not much of an appetite. Took my meds with milk instead of food....fear of vomiting. All I can seem to do is get out of bed long enough to take a shower then it's nap time for rest of the day. Its very hard to stay active when you feel this ;-(

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited April 2012

    I went grocery shopping and could have sat on the floor in the frozen section. And I understand the fatigue is cumulative. Yikes. I bought the stuff for those cupcakes but haven't baked any. Food tastes like crap.

  • LisaG65
    LisaG65 Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2012

    we went out for breakfast this morning, i was okay. until they sat a couple at the table next to us, and the smell of her made me sick, i had to go sit in the car. i bought some milk of magnesia today i dont like the laxative pain, hoping this will make movement easier with out the burning roll in my stomach. i am a real regular person, and even not having movement 1x a day is giving me pain. i bought my son some stuff for an easter basket, and stuff to make dinner. i have a slow cooker. plan on using it tomorrow. hope everyone makes it through the next day without to much discomfort. happy Easter.

  • velutha
    velutha Member Posts: 102
    edited April 2012

    Hi all!  I've finished my 4 rounds of a/c, still working on taxol -4 left.  Happy to answer any questions you have about what's coming, meanwhile just sending you all wishes for a quick return of your tastebuds and energy.

    Eat that elephant one bite at a time.  I still have my bad days, but I try not to think beyond what I need to do today.  Everything else can wait.

    Oh, and my best tip ever -all of my chemo sessions have been dates with friends.  Now I look forward to chemo day, because we gossip and chit chat through my infusions.  I don't think about how I feel, I listen to my girlfriends go on about their lives.  I can't stand to read, watch tv, etc, but I can listen to someone talk.   Helps you get out of your head and cancerland.

  • mcm24
    mcm24 Member Posts: 33
    edited April 2012

    Hi fellow warriors,

    Day 3 post first AC treatment. I have felt nauseous all three days, each day getting worse than the last. But the Zofran does help me. Fortunately I have been able to eat and keep everything down. I am worried about how I will feel Easter morning and whether I can make it to church with the family. I think if I am up early enough to deal with everything I can get myself into feeling ok. My sense of smell is very heightened and foods that normally smell good are overwhelming. I did find that bran cereal has helped with the bathroom issue. I hope that you all are finding ways to cope and that soon all this misery we are feeling will be a distant memory!

    Happy Easter to all!

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited April 2012

    I feel like Wonder Woman cause I baked those 48 cupcakes AND cleaned the kitchen. I am so spent I told my hubby and son to make spam for dinner. I am foregoing the family easter due to 16 kids being there and my nadir onset is today. I may have already said that. Anyone else having memory issues and mood changes? LOL

  • SadeSurvivor25
    SadeSurvivor25 Member Posts: 119
    edited April 2012

    I was so looking forward to going to church this morning but my toddler and this queasiness seemed to have something else in mind. Ugghhhh I'm so over this stuff already. Something has got to give.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    I am thinking about all of you this Easter morning and praying your SEs abate and improve with time. Stacie, take a bow and put on your Superwoman cape! I haven't really cooked in what seems like forever and it's one of my favorite things to do as a rule.



    I have a question - what exactly does dose dense mean? My oncology team has not used that term for my treatment plan but it looks the same as what some of you are doing who say yours is dose dense. I tried googling dose dense chemotherapy but what came up looked different than mine schedule wise.

  • velutha
    velutha Member Posts: 102
    edited April 2012

    @indigo: dense dose usually refers to A/C every 14 days for 4 cycles.  There are other dense dose schedules.  Sometimes people refer to dense dose chemo that includes taxol too.  All dense dose means it what it sounds like -trying to cram more chemo into less time.

    @all of you fighting nausea:  first thing tomorrow, please call your onco and explain your symptoms.  There is really no reason for you to be fighting nausea this hard this early in treatment.  There are a ton of different medications available, and you may have to trade being being nauseous for being sleepy (and nothing is going to make your food taste normal!), but you should not be miserably nauseated.  

    If you are nauseous, you should not be cooking.  You need to reserve your time with food smells to just the time you are eating.  I found if I drank a bit of lemon water or just smelled a freshly sliced lemon right before a meal, I could eat better. 

    Try the ginger chews, candies, etc, but mostly just eat what you want to eat, you can worry about nutrition in a couple of months when chemo is over.  If you aren't getting plenty of fluids, that can add to constipation, which can aggravate nausea.  If you suck on candy all the time you may tire your salivary glands, which are being stressed by chemo too.  

      Also, if you're finding your biggest problem to be headache/scalp pain, the anti-nausea medication may be contributing to that, so you may need to play with your regimen. 

     Hoping everyone has the best possible day!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2012

    Velutha is right about cooking. I had to ban my husband from eating anything stinky in the car (it would smell up the car) or cook anything in the kitchen all during AC. That smell issue resolved itself  during Taxol.

    Funny story: I continued going to bikram yoga through chemo tx. During AC I would lie on my mat wiating for class to start.  People would come and go in and out of the practice room, and I could smell every single different laundry detergent or dryer sheet they used for their clothes (and towels to put down on their mats).   Seriously, every smell molecule found its way to my nose.

    I had to move during one chemo because another patient came in with her friend and they both opened up big bacon and egg sandwiches from Wendy's, like a foot from my nose. Ew. Be warned about that during your own chemos.

    I am still getting tx (I got my port out Fri but start rads for 6.5 weeks 4/11) and I think of every thing I do to kick this stuff out of my body as my way to "flip the big bird" at cancer.

    You all will get through this. Promise.

    Claire in Az

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012

    Thank you VELUTHA & CLAIREINAZ!!!!!  Both of you bring so much positivity to this thread and give such great simple advice which I appreciate more than each of you know.  I know I can pack my chemo bag, but the practical advice once in the chemo chair is so invaluable. I now know not be afraid to tell my oncologist/infusion staff that I'm experiencing SE's and ask for some medical intervention.   HUGS to you and sending positive calming & healing prayers, thoughts and energy.

  • IndigoMont11
    IndigoMont11 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited April 2012

    Ohhh! Thanks for explaining, Velutha!

  • Pkate
    Pkate Member Posts: 37
    edited April 2012

    Finally back online after internet down  :(  hated losing touch with everyone. I am on day 4 of first round of AC and sooo fatigued.  I have been on steroids the last three days and Ativan PRN for nausea and have had nary a twinge.  So I'm guessing that the steroids did their job for anti-nausea but now I'm without energy because of them.  Had horrible heartburn yesterday which wouldn't go away no matter how many Tums I took.  Still I feel fortunate that its been mild this first time.  I second the comment about talking to your MO about any side effects.  There are so many options out there to help us along.

    Fretting today about the 'haircut' tomorrow.  Told my 13 y/o son so he wouldn't be shocked.  Maybe when that event has occurred, I'll have been through the worst and can just get on with this.

    Love to you all - next week will be better.

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited April 2012

    Can't eat crackers but like potato chips and chocolate. Ate a pickle which i would normally never choose. The stronger flavors seem to overcome the "icky" taste and milder foods taste icky or not at all. Me and hubby are alone having foregone the family gathering. Guess what? Were thrilled. We are rarely alone and needed this day...

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited April 2012

    Stacie- I got a cookbook entitled "Eating Well Through Cancer"  by Holly Clegg & Gerald Miletello, MD the other day when i had a visit with the oncology navigator at the cancer center I using.  The book seems helpful with recipes and how to manage the diet when you are having SE's.  I also  have the American Cancer Society booklet- Nutrition for the Person with Cancer during treatment.  You might want to check them out.  Glad you and your DH are having time alone just to be with each other.  Hope you feel better soon.  I know my chemland will begin soon.  Just want to keep fighting to get whatever nasty is left in me gone!!!!

    HUGS to all!!!

  • LisaG65
    LisaG65 Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2012

    i am still positive and strong, but i cycle with the moon, so i feel pms-ish. i really feel blank, like a chalkboard wiped clean. i really dont feel like talking to much. i have been over to the beach most  days even if it is just for 30 mins. been going swimming in to the gulf. my sense of smell is also sensitive, cigarette smoke is the worst. i had to move my beach chair today due to it. such young and pretty girls smoking....if they only knew... how they smelled to me, i bet they would stop...or maybe not, never had that addiction. my taste buds are changing, i have been eating well but today i could barely eat half the eater dinner on my plate, just didnt taste as good as it has, everyone else loved it. so its just me. i took the clippers to my head this morning so i am down to stuble and i like it, i feel a lot better and feel like ahahahha chemo i bet ya to it by cutting my hair. :)

  • beth1965
    beth1965 Member Posts: 455
    edited April 2012

    Is anyone else getting neuprogen shots? I will be getting them for 10 out of 14 days of my chemo cycle.

  • LisaG65
    LisaG65 Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2012

    i go tues for my first CBC after first round of chemo on 4/3 will get neuprogen if my count is low, they have me scheduled tue/weds/thurs/fri for the shots if needed. i guess if my count isnt low tues i go back weds to test again. i go weds for my muga.reading it says "with attaching a radioactive substance, Technetium 99, to red blood cells, then injecting the red blood cells into the patient's bloodstream". sounds creepy!!!

  • beth1965
    beth1965 Member Posts: 455
    edited April 2012

    lol....LisaG65 that does sound creepy! What is all that supposed to mean.  Way to go with the hair chopping you are taking some control back.

    They told me i need the neuprogen for 10 days every chemo to keep me okay during my treatments, they seem quite positive i will not be okay without these shots. This makes me a bit nervous.

  • 7donatela81
    7donatela81 Member Posts: 16
    edited April 2012

    Hi, I am new here today.  Mast 4 weeks ago and chemo starting on the 16th.  Then Herceptin a week later.  Getting my port this Friday.  I'm trying to learn all the abbrev. I've been reading here for a while. Just wanted to say hi.  I'm sure I will be checking in with more to say.  This is all so new.

  • Stacie
    Stacie Member Posts: 607
    edited April 2012

    Thanks for the book suggestions Melrose. I am doing quite well, played a board game as a family. I wanted to savor the good day. Lisa the mugga is a piece of cake. Welcome Donatela.

    I wish for healing for all.

  • velutha
    velutha Member Posts: 102
    edited April 2012

    I had neupogen (a lot of people use neulasta, I didn't want to go into the onco's office any more than I had to, so did neupogen @ home).  Different onco's monitor your counts differently, and I imagine it varies based on your protocol too.  I did 8 injections of neupogen days 2-10 of my A/C cycles.  My onco checked my counts one week after the first infusion, then just when I was there for infusions -but my counts have always been good.  Some tips:

    If you are familiar with insulin injections (or know someone who is), the technique for injecting neupogen is exactly the same.  I found flicking the syringe like a dart into a site further away from my belly button (closer to my hip but still belly) was the least painful.  I personally also found depressing the syringe slowly was less painful.  The needle itself doesn't hurt if you do it right, because it's such a tiny needle.  It's the liquid you are injecting that might hurt a little.

    I used an old tupperware container as my "sharps" container, to take the used syringes back to my onco.  This became really important as chemobrain set in, because if I couldn't remember whether I had done that day's injection or not, I could always count syringes to be sure.   Also, make sure your onco gives you some alcohol wipes to clean your skin before you inject.

     LOL@ eating healthy...too late for me, I lived on french fries and pizza during a/c, that was what sounded good, so that was what I ate.  Taxol is much better, I'm back to a normal healthy diet most of the time now. Hopefully at least some of you will do better than I did!

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