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  • gumshoe
    gumshoe Member Posts: 248
    edited April 2012

    Hi longislandmom -- I'm in a similar situation, although I've already had a lumpectomy and re-excision (see my posts under Successful Reconstruction after Lumpectomy?) in the Breast Reconstruction thread. There is some additional information in there that might help you. And, like you, I go back and forth with my decision. 

    One thing my surgeon said in the very beginning that helped me at that stage was, "You can always have a lumpectomy now and then a mastectomy later, but you can't go back the other way!" 

    You don't mention how much DCIS you are dealing with. Mine turned out to be larger than they initially thought, and I had a burst seroma that complicated things, but I'm still not sorry that I started out with a lumpectomy. 

    Everyone's situation is different, however, and I know how hard the choice can be. Best of luck to you!

  • gumshoe
    gumshoe Member Posts: 248
    edited April 2012
    Oh, and longislandmom and momtobac -- One of the things I have recently discussed with my BS is a nipple-sparing mastectomy (which she said she would do). For me, that tips the scales a little to UMX. I'll see how I feel tomorrow Undecided
  • longislandmom
    longislandmom Member Posts: 248
    edited April 2012

    gumshoe -- i have a very small area of DCIS in my left breast.  i've just had a sterotactic biopsy..but the whole thing is @ 2CM....but i also have foci of LCIS mixed in, which is what has tipped my scale to BMX.

  • Emaline
    Emaline Member Posts: 492
    edited April 2012

    I had uni-MX and do not regret my decision at all.  You have to do what feels right in your heart :)

  • beergirl
    beergirl Member Posts: 334
    edited April 2012

    I had a BMX 4 years ago (March 26). No regrets at all. I had seen 3 of my dad's sisters have breast cancer. Two died from the BC or chemo. I made my decision many years before I was diagnosed. When diagnosis came, deciding what to do was the easy part. Dying with my original boobs was not an option I wanted to consider. I had to change surgeons to get a BMX. I decided to do chemo (4 tx taxotere/cytoxan) based on my oncotype score. My oncologist told me I was very lucky that I chose to have a BMX, because when the final pathology report came, my "good breast" was 90% full of DCIS. My first "all normal" lab results came about 2 months ago. Now, I am starting to consider reconstruction at last. Think it all out and make the decision that is right for you.        

  • Summer2recover
    Summer2recover Member Posts: 171
    edited April 2012
    I don't regret the removal of my old breasts at all even though I would have likely done fine with the lumpectomy & radiation. In my case, the BMX allowed me to skip Tamoxifin as an added bonus. My only small twinge of regret is losing a fair amount of strength in my pectoral muscles.  I notice this almost daily when I am pushing down an apple slicer/corer or when I'm opening a jar.  It would have been great to have known in advance that I didn't have any node involvement in order to skip the SNB & the annoyance of that incision, but that seems to fall in the wishful thinking category.  Wishing you the best of luck with your surgery!
  • LaurenM730
    LaurenM730 Member Posts: 366
    edited April 2012

    Not for a second do I regret my BMX. Mine was grade 3 and also showed LCIS. After going throughh a lumpectomy, and so many biopsies and tests, i knew it was the right decision. I do not have to do chemo or rads, and I also get new 18 year old boobs! My surgery was Jan 23rd and am anxiously awaiting my exchange surgery hopefully in a month or so!



    I'm also a Long Island mom. Very possibly we can have the same BS. If you are considering reconstruction, I have an excellent PS. I love him and probably made it through that day because of him.



    PM me if you want to chat

    -Lauren

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited April 2012

    I had a UMX and for me it was absolutely the right decision. I had no choice about the single MX - too much DCIS in a small breast - but after having a clear MRI on the other breast, I decided to stick with the single.  I am very glad that I did.  An implant reconstructed breast is a reasonable substitute to fill a bra but it's nothing like a natural breast.  It has no natural movement and no natural feeling. Plus many of us have on-going issues such as phantom itching and problems with our pec muscles.  And Lauren, sorry to disagree but I don't find that reconstructed breasts are anything like new 18 year old breasts.  I think it's important to make that point because anyone going into this surgery should have realistic expectations about what the results will be like - I've seen too many women who've been shocked and disappointed at the results because they didn't start off with a clear understanding of what an implant reconstructed breast would be like. An implant reconstructed breast may look good (some look very natural, others less so) but they are not natural breasts.

    longislandmom, my comments aren't meant to discourage you from having a BMX, if that's what you really want to do.  But make sure that you understand exactly what to expect.  Hope for positive results but be prepared for possible problems such as pain, lack of symmetry and the need for revision surgery (this is required in about 30% of cases).  There are some lucky women who breeze through reconstruction and are immediately thrilled with the results, but honestly, that's not the experience of the majority of women who go through it.  For most, it's a long process with a long adjustment period. Eventually most women are happy with their results - or at least accept the results - but it's not always easy to get to that point. 

  • BikerBabe1
    BikerBabe1 Member Posts: 74
    edited April 2012

    I had a unilateral mastectomy with reconstruction on my left breast and a lift and implant on the other breast.  I had the choice of a lumpectomy with radiation and tamoxifen or a mastectomy.  I chose the mastectomy with reconstruction.  

    Because I chose the mastectomy, I did not have to undergo radiation. And for that, I have no regrets.  But I have to admit that after nearly 16 months, I do have some regrets with my mastectomy-- although I don't think I would have made a different decision.

    Even though I have had what is considered to be a good outcome, there are still issues, some likely permanent. I just wish I knew more of what I know now. For example:

    My chest feels this weird kind of heavy even though it is numb.   

    My breasts itch inside much of the time and it drives me crazy. 

    My pec muscle in my left breast looks weird when it flexes and people can see it it move like that when I am braless under my shirt.

    I have weird chest pain that is not attributable to any health condition other than I have implants, one numb breast and one mostly numb breast.  

    I have had four surgeries and my breasts are hardly even.  I had hoped that one of the benefits of reconstruction would be to be able to go braless with my new breasts as much as possible but they are too uneven right now.  

    Tissue expanders were difficult and painful for me.  

    On my right breast, the nipple, which is suppose to have feeling and look normal, is mostly numb and just doesn't "look right."

    I don't say these things lightly but I think it is important detail to know.  

    My feelings now may be all part of the grieving process about losing a breast and in time I will come to acceptance. But I have found myself wondering "maybe I should have had the lumpectomy"

    While I have asked myself this question, I do not think I would have made a different decision given the benefits of not having to do radiation or tamoxifen.

    But I find myself sad about losing me breasts.   

     T.

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited April 2012

    The first time I was dx with dcis, I opted for a simple lumpectomy. I was told that the odds were I would never have a recurrence.. One year later, I again was dx with high grade dcis in the same right breast, but this time it was multi focal. I wasn't insured so I again just did another lumpectomy without rads. When it came down to where the rubber meets the road, I didn't want to lose my breast. But, I had a third dx which turned out to be IDC with the her2+++ . Since my second dx was multifocal, I knew for me it would be more recurrences so I bit the bullet and did the uni-mx. I know it was the right thing to do and I should had done it after the second dx.

    It's been a few months since the uni-mx and I am still grieving over my natural lost breast. My implant does not look or feel normal. The ps put in a larger implant than I wanted so it has to be done over. Every day when I move my my right arm, I feel this implant. It feels like a heavy prothesis. I can't take it off like a bra. It is this thing I feel on my ribs all the time. It feels weird, and it reminds me everyday that cancer took my breast.

    So yes, I regret I had to have my right breast removed. I also don't think I could live without some kind of breast so reconstruction was a must. I am so glad I still have my natural left breast. It feels so real, soft, light, warm and normal.

    To note here, I was dx a year ago with cancer in the left breast as well. It was idc, but a rare cancer that rarely mets, and only grade 1. I chose to do nothing more than a lumpectomy and watch and wait on that breast. I am at complete peace about my choice and happy I still have at least one breast. I am grateful for Deirde and Beesie's in making me see it from all angles.  As difficult as the choice was for me, I went into the lumpectomies and the mx with my eyes wide open. I do agree with Deirde that before doing a mx, you might want to talk it through with your doctor or someone to know what you're getting into...it's a major surgery that changes you forever...because once the breast is gone it's never back the way it was.

  • longislandmom
    longislandmom Member Posts: 248
    edited April 2012

    hi, Lauren.  where do you live in long island?  Gosh..it's an epidemic out here!  i'm in East Hampton-- but most of my family is in NYC...so i am actually getting my surgery at Sloan.  where did you have your surgery?  thanks for you advice.  i appreciate it.  best -

  • wildrumara
    wildrumara Member Posts: 450
    edited April 2012

    Longislandmom - Please consider finding a surgeon in your area (which should not a problem) who does direct-to-implant after a mastectomy.  If you don't know anything about this procedure, take the time to research.  I had BMX and went this route.  If the breast surgeon is able to leave enough skin after his part of the surgery, you will be good to go.  No TE!s!!!! I'm so pleased with my result and the recovery has been very manageable. 

  • M0m2Three
    M0m2Three Member Posts: 29
    edited April 2012

    Longisland mom, I'm a mother of three whose DCIS, Grade 3, 1 cm was discovered during my routine mammogram.   Given the grade and nature of the DCIS, I chose to have a bilateral mastectomy with delayed reconstruction.     My oncologist, surgeon, and additional research showed that because I was in my early 40s, I had a 20% chance of a recurrence in the other breast.    Given the location of the DCIS tumor - near my nipple-- it was too difficult to surgically remove without seriously impacting the shape/size of my small bustline.   I chose to have the mastectomy initially on one side, but after much thought and prayer made the decision for the bilateral mastectomy surgery.

     It is now 6 months later and I'm quite pleased with the DIEP reconstruction results.   I delayed reconstruction by three months in case the DCIS had become IDC and there could possibly be a need for radiation therapy.     That said, my experience with cancer and mastectomy has been an emotional, physical, and psychological one.   The DIEP surgery is very hard at first but gets so much better.   I chose that type of surgery because I didn't want to have to periodically upgrade the silicone or saline implants.

     I wish you all the best and hope all goes well with your treatment!    Make sure you have a positive relationship with your surgeon.

  • JLZSAN
    JLZSAN Member Posts: 6
    edited April 2012

    I recently had bmx on 3-7-12. I currently have TES and eventually implants. I haven't had any regrets. I was diagnosed with dcis grade 0 low to intermediate. I chose the bmx for my own piece of mind. I didn't want the radiation and the tamoxifen. 1 month out from surgery and I am feeling back to normal. Good luck with your surgery.

  • JLZSAN
    JLZSAN Member Posts: 6
    edited April 2012

    I recently had bmx on 3-7-12. I currently have TES and eventually implants. I haven't had any regrets. I was diagnosed with dcis grade 0 low to intermediate. I chose the bmx for my own piece of mind. I didn't want the radiation and the tamoxifen. 1 month out from surgery and I am feeling back to normal. Good luck with your surgery.

  • lisagwa
    lisagwa Member Posts: 232
    edited April 2012

    M0m2Three - Hi, you mentioned that you waited 3 months before you had delayed reconstruction to make sure DCIS didn't change to IDC. So, did your surgeon suggest MRI or other testing in between to find this out?

  • peggy_j
    peggy_j Member Posts: 1,700
    edited April 2012

    Hope it's ok to post, even though I had IDC and a lumpectomy, I had second thoughts too. Right before I started rads I was kind of freaking out, did I make the right choice? (rads have their own risks too) I was able to speak to counselor for about an hour and half. She said, yes, no one knows what will happen and the ideal goal is to get to the point where, regardless of the outcome, we feel we made the right choice. i.e. if I choose lumpectomy and have a recurrence, how will I feel? If I choose MX and later find out it wasn't needed, how would I feel? (she had several spots of DCIS and chose a MX). My guess is that you made your decision for specific reasons, but these comments might be playing on lingering concerns or fears, which, in retrospect, seems normal. I rarely go to counselors but found this to be super helpful (I talked to her just twice during my Tx). Maybe talking to someone would help you work through this too? 

  • M0m2Three
    M0m2Three Member Posts: 29
    edited April 2012

    @lisagwa, I had an MRI within the week of dx of DCIS.   I didn't have time to line up a breast surgeon/PS team at the time because I wanted the grade 3 tumor out ASAP.   

    After the BMX, my surgeon wanted me to wait before recon.  I met with the PS in October who also wanted me to wait while my body healed before she did the DIEP recon as well.   When, my PS did the DIEP in January, she also took some additional tissue for testing, but it was clear of any IDC.     I wish you well.   I am really happy I made the BMX decision vice radiation/lumpectomy.  My tumor was located under the nipple and being a 34B, taking the tumor with a good margin would have left a really unsatisfactory breast shape.  They had to remove the nipple anyway.   I opted for the other breast to be removed prophylactically because I didn't want to go through the surgery again.  The likelihood of another round of DCIS or IDC was about 20% over my lifetime. Since I am in my early 40s,   I want to live as much of my life while I am able to do so.

    After talking with and seeing different  perspectives it is clear that we each do what we must to move forward.   I don't think anyone is ever really the "same" after a breast cancer diagnosis.

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