Alternative Treatment

I posted a thread on it as I thought if this is good news and needs it's own thread, and certainly good news for Italian oncologist, Dr. Tullio Simoncini.

I have a question that I am asking with complete sincerity. Although I completely agree that the profit motive is very strong, why would "Big Pharma" suppress or obstruct possible cures/preventatives for cancer when their own families and friends are effected by this disease too? Doubtless, they all have mothers, wives, daughters etc. who have had bc or other types of cancer, not to mention they (whoever they may be) themselves. -Caryn

Caryn, it's already happened with DCA. The drug has no patent, is cheaply produced and has been used for years to treat lactic acidosis. When it was discovered that it could also be effective in treating some cancers...things changed. Unless your dr. was willing to lie for you and say he/she is treating you for the acidosis, he/she can't get it. Yet, if it's required specifically for that treatment, it's cheap, prescribable and easy to manufacture.  If you want it for cancer,  it's going to cost a pretty penny, and even then, you can never be sure you're getting a clean source. Sure it has some side-effects, but none more serious than chemo. Once the trials are complete, things might change...I don't know, but I can bet you dollars to donuts that it will no longer be the cheap, benign treatment it used to be. Some pharmaceutical company will stick it's nose in, change it just enough to call it their own (probably adding serious side-effects in the process)  and make sure the price is driven up. Supply and demand.

Caryn, I'm probably going to sound like a jaded soul, but to answer your question....it happens all the time. Not that it's suppressed or obstructed, just that a pharmaceutical/supplement company has to take a perfectly effective, inexpensive treatment, synthesize/change it, patent it and then charge an outrageous fortune for it. For all I know, though, maybe there's just not enough to go around and they have to. Maybe it's all fueled by supply and demand. Kind of like aspirin, you know? You can chew on the willow bark or you can swallow the synthesized pill.

I don't believe there is suppression going on although it's ridiculous when they develop a drug like Strontium Ranelate when strontium in any form probably works and they could have spent the money testing Strontium Citrate which is cheap and readily available.

I'm sure many people are rightly suspicious after the horrendous behaviour of the tobacco and asbestos industries.  Surely those who suppressed evidence showing smoking and asbestos were mass killers also had relatives who smoked or worked with asbestos?  

Joy:  Let me know when you start up your "starving cancer" thread, because I surely want to be a part of that one.  I have a strong belief about that as well.

This is the protocol I found on www.cancertutor.com. There are other alternative treatments on this site as well.

Kelmun Protocol - Baking Soda and Maple Syrup (About $20 a month)

This is an alkaline protocol that works by killing microbes inside of cancer cells. See the "What Causes Cancer" article, on the left side-bar, to understand what I am talking about

In this protocol baking soda and maple syrup are heated together for 5 minutes. This binds the two substances together. It is a weak bond, but the protocol works so quickly that that is all that is needed.

When they are taken, the cancer cells eat the maple syrup because cancer cells consume 15 times more glucose than normal cells. However, as they do this the baking soda gets inside the cancer cells.

This is when the highly alkaline baking soda kills the microbes inside the cancer cells, thus reverting the cancer cells into normal cells.

This is when the highly alkaline baking soda kills the microbes inside the cancer cells, thus reverting the cancer cells into normal cells. See this article for more information:
Kelmun Protocol  

NOTE: There is also a Molasses and Baking Soda protocol. Search YouTube for how to make this protocol.

How can that work? The syrup is broken down in the digestive system, then enters the blood as glucose. I would think that by that stage, it is no longer mixed with the soda.

Hi - I see this thread was busy since I last visited, but had to jump from 16  to 19, so for now have missed a lot.

Joy - don't know what it was, that would make you consider leaving, details anyway, but I have come to consider you to be a voice of reason, you do not push anyone to think your way, or to twist arms, and you have proven your concern for others.  Please do not leave, you bring balance.  Maybe just skip over the stressors?  I am going to have to do so.  I have a new word for it.  Smoke.

BAKING SODA - Please all remember it is not so easy !!!!  The baking soda first of all has  aluminum, so one without and organic is needed.  Plus the blood tests must be involved and the body must be supplemented with potassium and magnesium, among others.  Baking soda can stop the heart, the minerals needed are gone, the heart stops in an otherwise healthy person.  Do some online searches for more info, and please do not jump on the platform unaware.  I have been on a few platforms and you can consider me your red flag, this was almost my downfall seven years ago when i was trying to alleviate another physical issue, quite unaware that I was using too much too.  Perhaps a physician would help with your choice?  

And yup, this will possibly end up being an Rx which needs a dr prescription but I think it is necessary for this one.  

Love the alkaline summit for healing cancer cells.  Gentle. 

Today I read more on the thermogram Biomat and am so going there.  I have learned so much about body temp, thyroid, the kidney function being the first thing to go for me in particular.   When I have more time probably tomorrow evening.... will write more from the three books I have from lending library.  Don't even know how much these things cost, but I want one asap.  

Today, first acupuncture treatment, had nutrition asssesment and received two Chinese herbs, one for breaking down plegm from above the waist (a flower of some kind) and one to 'liquifty' or make me pee and stuff.  I am quite pleased with the team there.  Hubby said so often, you need to go see...... and I did not, until I called last week, then woke w swollen nodes yesterday and was glad I had the appt set already.

Later!

Diane, If people on this thread are saying research says two protocols have "statistically similar outcomes", then on another thread it's reported that they are saying one protocol "doesn't work", well that's a complete fabrication. I even did a search for "doesn't work" on this Alt Medicine section.  And then they use that lie to prove we are giving someone bad advice!  Please someone tell me where we've advised Kathy that chemo "doesn't work" on ILC or ER+?  I don't like having my words twisted to something completely different.

Then someone else tells me to not talk about chemo on this thread?  I thought we were looking for alternatives to chemo where that is not compromising overall survival.  And I was quoting good research going back years.

It feels like some people are just trying to disprove others rather than add to the information being shared.  I don't mind anyone disagreeing with me providing it's done respectfully and truthfully.  I'm open to all ideas but like to see some evidence that it's viable.

Your information and attitude are just what we need here.  The information you supplied on Baking Soda was invaluable and I hope it doesn't get lost in all the many posts, so I'll probably refer back to it to keep it alive. The book you mentioned may be just what I need too.

Thanks Zuvart for the recipe, I need to watch the video again.  Essa, I'll take heed of your advice, thanks   Looking forward to your post about your current reading.  I'm so disoriented that I responded about the biomat on another thread....Lol

We've not heard from Kathy, I'm sad about that

Joy, I wouldn't lose any sleep over this, like Essa said, smoke (pot or hashish ? Lol).  Also looking forward to your new thread (and crossing fingers) 

ETA, Joy, the new research specifies drinking the combo, please see Evebarry's post on the subject 

Joy I don't think  baking soda and maple syrup alone (or any drug )will do the trick. Like all alternative treatments, diet, detoxification, exercise etc play big roles in the healing process. So, there will never be a one size fits all treatment that works for everyone.  

I strongly believe that new healing holistic modalities are quickly approaching.  After reading "Cancer is not a disease-It's a survival mechanism" - Andreas Moritz and  "Breast Cancer and Iodine : How to Prevent and How to Survive Breast Cancer" - Ph.D. Dr. David Derry M.D. books, I immediately realized that I needed non toxic treatments that build my up instead of tearing it down. 

Kathy, you may want to consider Insulin Potentiated Therapy if you are looking for alternative to chemotherapy.  See... 

Treat cancer with the natural remedies in Insulin Potentiation Therapy
 

"NaturalNews) A study in a 2004 edition of the Journal of Clinical Oncology revealed that the combined five-year survival rate for all types of cancer using full-dose chemotherapy and radiation is only 2.5 percent, but pharmaceutical interests have prevented other treatments from being prescribed in conventional medicine. Yet more effective, less toxic treatments exist; among these, Insulin Potentiation Therapy is increasing in popularity among holistically-minded doctors. IPT utilizes the hormone insulin to make low doses of chemotherapeutic drugs more effective, but natural substances, which produce fewer side effects, can be used in lieu of the drugs. By integrating IPT into a protocol that includes a healthy, organic diet, free of processed food and sugar, along with an individualized nutritional regimen to heal the body, some doctors are able to heal up to 60 percent of their terminally-ill patients. This is because natural IPT regimens not only kill cancer cells in a targeted fashion, but also strengthen the body and immune system, which is destroyed by conventional treatments.

In IPT, doctors first gently lower their patients' blood sugar by giving them insulin. Because cancer cells require copious amounts of glucose to function, lowering the body's blood sugar causes them to starve and to open up their cell membranes, so that they become extremely receptive to whatever glucose might be in the bloodstream. If patients are then given anti-cancer substances along with glucose, their cancer cells swallow those substances, and the effects of those substances become greatly enhanced, or potentiated, by the insulin...(You can read the rest.)

http://www.naturalnews.com/033421_insulin_potentiation_therapy_cancer.html#ixzz1r7wrXf21

i am looking up the flowers  and hrbs I was givven by chinese medicine.  Will post back later today about the current info I am onto for my own protocol. Juggling bco and research w finishing taxes and packing and meditation.  grin, no stress here.

Joy - glad you are still you.  I want to say what worked for me and what has not, but I just realized that the probability of being stomped or stung for my honesty would create a bias against the whatever it was that did not help me in particular, and people who might get a positive outcome would not consider it on their journey.  Visa, the whatever that helped me, might not work for another but I would be called an untruthful person.

Either way - that is not going to stop me.

On my profile - in about an hour, you will see the protocol I am using now, what I have used from the beginning of this jourrney and the transitions along the way.

Maud  -- Smoke.  Just smoke, that being my word for letting it roll of the back of the duck... be a duck, water off the back.  Smoke is my word for that.  Peace pipe smoke.  Bee hive smoke.  Ecological burn off for greener meadows smoke.  Ashes to ashes smoke.  It's all good.  Your smoke is cool too.

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Kaara, I am once again with you.  Even in late stage, I would do the IPT first.  The PolyMVA does the same, requires so much less chemo, builds up the system, detoxes liver all at once.  So I would do that too.  My integrative med dr showed me info on these and has connections if I should decide.  I am still into gentle does it, heal gently and rebuild my system.  Just getting the cancer active (as I do believe the cancer cells arealways there, proven 3000 - 6000 a day that our immune system handles when it is functioning to do so) but just getting to the point where the cancer was active enough to      my memory andsit me on my arse for so long, I needed to rebuild anyway.  I could go out and garden now, if not OWB smoke next door (BAD SMOKE, evil smoke, not all smoke can be positive stuff hahaha)  I am so much stronger.

Zuvart - Thanks for more info on the IPT.  My integrative md is signed as a physician who does IPT but he doesn't now, he is semi-retired and it takes so long, so he refers patients to the ones near here who do that, cryoablation, PolyMVA, laser.   I think like you that we are fully opening the door to the healing of cancer  cells holistically instead of the killing of the patient's immunity. The recent medical release on Radiation for bc causing cancer stem cells is enough for me. And it seems that the need for the holistic is extremely important to implement now becasue there are so many who will depend on the alternatives to heal after vast does of chemo and the radiation treatments that have been admitted to do more harm than good for enough that it is being admitted at all. In next post, pulled from the early stage natural girls thread....

Joy? what chinese flower/herb?.....dune sleeper?  very technical, but I thought re: o2, hyberbaric oxygyn chamber??.....sugar is in fact a white powder, refined sugar........been thinking, betcha opiates are estrogenic:  when I used herin now some 40+ years ago, we called it "lady doojey", & more recently friends who have used have called it "blanche".

nothing new to report from abigail, the beast has been pretty quiet:  a good thing.

I did remember to bring back the rosemary oil, maud, thanks to you, I also found some grapeseed pil my sister had sent probably 1 1/2 years ago, it was sealed with wax, I opened & used some & put the rest in the fridge.  I has a plastic container , no triange glyff on the bottom, I suspect a #5 or maore plastic.  I also ate the first japanese knotweed sprout, soon it will be 11 feet tall, now the shoots are just comming up.  the periwinkle is flowereing, wonder now, with joy's report on scullcap, if the blue flowers have something to do with it's curative power.....