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  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited April 2012
  • MichelleMassey
    MichelleMassey Member Posts: 213
    edited April 2012

    I can't get the link to work on my iPad. If I ever get my butt out of bed I will try it on the desktop. I like the lyrics.

  • Sissydi
    Sissydi Member Posts: 516
    edited April 2012

    Laura, ask for some Prilosec......I take one a day since my indigestion began. I am only now starting to feel halfway normal, and tx3 is Monday! I think most of us have struggled with indigestion and heartburn!

  • Amymomto5
    Amymomto5 Member Posts: 73
    edited April 2012

    Hi ladies, I've been around the last couple days, just hadn't posted. I finally found out about chemo and wanted to let you know. (Thanks for the PM's Katy, Karri and Alice).  I am officially done with chemo after my one cycle.  My oncologist did hear back from the "gray hairs" oncologist (more experienced, but that is what my onc said).  Anyway, the other one said she would not do any more chemo with me.  Today my oncologist said she has mulled this over, slept on it, and just feels like it isn't worth the risk that I would have an anaphylactic reaction next time.  I agree.  That oncologist also did not think I would get a 5% reduction in recurrence risk with chemo. My onc pointed out that my recurrence risk with tamoxifen alone (besides my bmx) is 10%.  If it was 30 or greater or if this was neoadjuvant, we would HAVE to try something else.  I agree with her that it isn't worth the risk either.  It's just so weird that I reacted, because I don't have any drug or food allergies, or even hay fever allergies!  Even anesthesia doesn't bother me like it does some people.  My oncologist did point out that since my hair is (mostly) gone, we can assume the chemo has done it's job. (I still would've like to get in the 4 cycles I signed up for!) 

    About the song, I haven't listened yet but love the lyrics.  You country fans might like Martina McBride's song I'm Gonna Love You Through It, I think it's called.  A friend told me about it so I bought it on iTunes.  I can just about get through it without crying now.

    The hair topic, anyone else have more trouble with losing your hair than you did your breasts? (Don't get me wrong, that was rough too) I am really struggling.  I like my wig and am getting used to it, but this is so hard.  The last of my femininity, gone!  I don't like my dh to see me without my hat/wig/turban, whatever.  I know that sounds bizarre, and I never expected to feel like that, but I do.  I don't care as much about the kids seeing me.  I guess I'll get used to it, and then maybe I won't care.  I think the reason I don't want him to see me is because I don't look feminine.  He says it's fine, but still...

    I have been keeping up with everyone, I just can't address everyone tonight.  Those of you suffering bad SE's, I really feel for you. That first week after tx is rough.  Amy, with the embolism, so sorry about that - how scary.  Will pray for you; I hope you are in a better place with that right now.  You mentioned you are a physician.  What is your specialty?  It must be nice to have connections to other doctors.  

    Hope everyone has a good night! Karri, lunch - soon!

    Amy 

  • fedfan
    fedfan Member Posts: 44
    edited April 2012

    Masserz: Your baldness actually looks beautiful, and your wig looks great too.

    Shera: I'm right there with you. I'm like a mangey chia pet or you can call me "Patches" My buzz cut is not exactly smooth or beautiful. I'm actually hoping what's left will hurry up and fall out. The bristling effect is a little irritating.

    Had Treatment #3 today. Feeling kind of crappy. The nurse I had today really injected the Adriamycin quickly. I know they were behind schedule today...the waiting area for infusion was packed. My appt. was for 11:30 and I didn't get called back until almost 1:00. Still don't think that's a reason to speed race with the Adriamycin. Oh well, I don't think that caused any problems...at least I hope not.

    Good luck to everyone with future treatments and side effects. 

  • galena_79
    galena_79 Member Posts: 107
    edited April 2012

    Tx2 Day 16. I went to Look Good Feel Better this morning. It was fun, although I feel a bit over-made up now, and I'm not digging the brightness of my lippy.

    I was the youngest there by a couple decades, until the last woman arrived. We sat together, and I found out that we are doing the same treatments on the same days. Kind of nice to know someone in RL who is going through the same thing.

    It was 'meat week' at Pak'n'Save last week, so I bought a big cheap leg of lamb. This afternoon I intend to cook up a storm. My hubby has been looking forward to it for days, lol.

    Speaking (typing) of eating, the left side of my mouth is really sore with ulcers right now, so I'm only eating on the right side. Frustrating.

    I am making a memory bracelet during chemo, marking each infusion appointment with a bead. Today I ordered a sterling silver bead which looks like a breast cancer ribbon.

    Katy- Yes, 'Kia kaha' is Maori for 'Be strong'. I like it too. :D Also, I get my bloodwork done on the day of infusion too, so I don't know how I'm doing in between infusions. And yay, I love India Arie. :D

    Sissydi- I'm glad that you're feeling better. I checked out ostrich head pictures, and had a good laugh. Identical to my balding head at the moment. I expect it will be all gone by Tx3, or very soon after!

    tc9876- I try to write my replies as I am reading the posts!

    MLB- They probably should tell you if they infuse sedatives, so that you know not to drive afterwards. I wonder if they did that the first two times?

    Gabbi- Glad to hear that your hospital visit was a short one. I've got a few mouth ulcers at the moment too, aren't they a drag? Yay for a new car!

    Amy- Yikes! Sorry to hear you've had a rough time lately. Sometimes I think it is ridiculous that we get pumped full of drugs and then sent home to monitor ourselves. I'm hope that you're feeling better now.

    CAYH- As well as the infusion, I take 2x Dexamethasone on Days 2, 3 and 4. It hasn't been preventing me from sleeping those days. Also, I was so glad to avoid the constipation (pine cones!) in tx2.

    gelina99- Welcome to the board. Hope you find some good support here.

    Laura- I had awful indigestion after eating lemon, and then after eating pineapple. Each time it was in week 2 after treatment. I treated it with Acidex a couple times, and slept sitting up in bed. That seemed to take care of it.

    Amymom- I had much much much more trouble with losing my breast. Nearly lost my mind over having to make that decision. I was always big breasted and part of my identity and sexuality belonged in that breast!
    In comparison, I have always enjoyed messing around with different hair styles, and I am enjoying scarves and turbans a lot. I feel really comforted knowing that my hair will grow back.
    Having said that, I can totally understand how losing your hair could really mess with someone's sense of self.

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited April 2012

    Hi Amy

    I guess as you have a less than 10 per cent chance of recurrence re Tamoxifen you can rest easy.

    Unfortunately, with a 3.4cm tumour that was classified as grade 3 and I'm HERs+ it looks like I'm in this for the long haul. My treatment should end in July 2012!

    Thanks so much for letting us know how you are getting on.

    Alice

    P.S I miss my hair too, although am getting used to the wig!

  • MichelleMassey
    MichelleMassey Member Posts: 213
    edited April 2012

    Amy- sorry you had to lose your hair before they found this out. And I LOVE.that Martina Mcbride song. Little did I know when it first came out that it would become my anthem.



    I'm also in it for the long haul unti July. My hairs just now is starting to thin and shed like crazy. It's really starting to hit me that I'm going to lose it.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited April 2012

    Good morning ladies.  Well the big shed has started and it isn't even day 15!  Handfuls of hair came out today!  UGH Guess I will have to move up the shave to this weekend.

    Hope everyone has a wonderful day with minimal side effects!

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited April 2012

    Wow there are alot of posts.  Been feeling a bit icky since yesterday although typical from past TX's.  I'm supposed to go to excercise class today, hmm I'll see how I'm feeling.  I suppose I should just go and do what I can, will likely make me feel better. 

    Amy

    You gave it your best shot with the chemo but your doctors are right in discontiueing it with those alergic reactions! For a 5% reduction in re-occurance it's not worth the risk. I feel the same way as you do about the hair loss vs the loss of my breast which continues to astound me.  Like I've said before, with the exception of seeing myself naked, I don't even think about my breast really.  Its easily disguised with my prostestis and I was gratefull when diagnosed that the cancer had not spread beyond it (that we know of anyway).  But the hair thing sucks.  I wish I was more confident in this. 

    I did however have a good chuckle over it last Thursday.  My BFF came down for the night to accompany me to last TX.  I had my wig on when she arrived.  She immediatley said take that thing off I want to see your head!  So I whipped it off and we laughed our heads off.  I've known this gal since I was 12 (49 now) and her Mom is a BC survivor for 25+ years now.  So she has a good perspective on everything.  She was amazed at my MX scar vs her Moms too.  I guess things have come a long way.

    Galena

    You continue to amaze me with your fabulous outlook.  You made me LOL with the pine cone analogy, can so relate back to my first TX!  I know what you mean with the LGFB program, I felt a little to made up as well.  I  haven't worn so much make up since the 80's!  I'm glad you were able to connect with someone on the same schedule as you too.  It helps to have someone like that during TX.

    When going for my pre TX bloodwork last week I ran into a friend with his Mom, she's a day ahead of me.  Before I left I sat with her for about half an hour and we just chatted about all things BC while he got a coffee.  She was happy to talk to another woman, only has her son and husband and doesn't go online at all.  I told her I would stop by next visit for sure. If you can believe it this woman was diagnosed in another city and told to get her affairs in order. She said when she asked questions, the MO put her hand up ie "talk to the hand"!  She came down here for a consult on a thyroid issue and asked for a referral to the oncology centre I'm attending.  She is now in pre surgery chemo to reduce the tumor and treat the nodes but told her they will NOT give her an experation date!!  I'm so happy I'm also being treated here.

    Katy

    Love India Arie!!!

    onvacation

    Sorry the shedding has commenced, I know it feels like crap.

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited April 2012

    Good morning!  Hope everyone is feeling ok today!  

    I have a few questions that I'm sure have been talked about here, but I don't have the energy to reread everything.  :)  I'm taking meds for constipation but still haven't gone, what can I try and please don't say prunes..the thought of that makes my stomach not right any other time in my life.

    Also, I had the shot and my bones don't hurt, but my shoulders are sore,,of course this could be from all the naps I keep taking.

    Is anyone else very emotional?  I find myself crying over everything and that is not like me.  I'm usually a very upbeat person and find the postitive in everything.

    Thanks for any help you give..wish I had someone around I could actually talk to sometimes, feel completely alone here in the middle of nowhere.  I'll stop feeling sorry for myself now. 

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited April 2012

    Complaint of the day...my mom telling me "oh your hair isn't shedding that badly, you don't need to cut it off yet."  That is all.  More later.  Posts, not complaints. 

    Edited to add I just dropped a box of 100 paperclips.  I must now either pick them up or step over them all day.

  • Amymomto5
    Amymomto5 Member Posts: 73
    edited April 2012

    Lost - magnesium citrate saved my life, after ex-lax barely worked, and the magnesium doesn't cause cramps, just liquifies everything. You take 1/2 the bottle (5oz), see if it works in 6 hours, then take the rest if you haven't had results.  (chill it in freezer for a little while, the taste is awful).

    Hope that helps,

    Amy 

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited April 2012

    I take magnesium every night - did before chemo also - I use natural calm and got it on amazon.  Helps get and keep things "moving" and relaxes you too!   Hope you find some relief!

  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2012

    Going in for chemo.  It sounds like part of an 80's song.  Or maybe something Amy Winehouse (sp) would have sung.  Anyway- if anyone has any questions they would like me to ask my nurse while I am there text me @ 1 503 857 5275.  She is excellent, very kind and patient. I have read on here some people have not had great luck with thier MO and center, so just thought I would offer.  I will be there until like 1 pm PST.

    Yummy!  Steriods and bagels for breakfast!

    Corky

    P.S. Lost- Epsom salts works but not sure if it might not be too much.  Also, when he was young my son had lots of problems with constipation and the Dr. gave us an Rx for soething that worked great.  Maybe call your MO?  Also sorry you are in the middle of nowhere.  I don't know many people in Mo but if you are into the wild mustangs out there look up Sandra Palen Elmore on Face Book. Anyway, if you get lonely text me.

  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2012

    Oh and yes, I have found I am pretty emotional, especially if I overdo it.  When I get tired I just start crying over everthing!

  • Januaryice
    Januaryice Member Posts: 120
    edited April 2012

    Cayh- thanks for the words of encouragements and it really does help. First day I feel half human. Just trying to battle the indigestion. HD just went to get Pepcid. Hope that helps.



    Galena- memory bracelet sounds great. Any instructions on how to make it?



    Munnybunni- did you get results from cat scan yet? I'd bee very interested as I also had a pain in back shoulder blade area. I hope it's nothing you have to worry about. This BC is bad enough!!!!!!!



    To all my fellow marchers I hope all have a great day and the time just seems to fly by. I close my eyes and just wish the next 5 months were over.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited April 2012

    Kitb04- something so poignant and funny about dropping 100 paper clips. It sort of represents the frustration of the chemo. Go sit in a chair and veg and stare at those paper clips until one has the energy to deal with them or have a very UN Zen like moment picking them up, one by one. Today the paper clips would remain on my floor while I contemplate going to work for the first time in 2 weeks.

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited April 2012

    Corky

    Good luck today with TX.  Steroids and bagels, yummo!  I just had toast and even that tasted off!  I know what you mean about  being emotional.  Was watching DWTS and got teary eyed last night, so not me!  Mind you they were all dancing to songs that had particular meaning for each of them and some of there stories were pretty incredible.

    Re Constipation

    I've been using Sennacot S thoughout TX which has been working fine.  For some reason though its working too well if you get my drift.   LOL, only here can you talk about such things!

    lostinmo

    I'm likely not leaving the house today due to the aforementioned issue.  If you're bored I'm happy to go on live chat here with you.  I'm waiting on a few calls for work so I'm just sitting here waiting.  Let me know.  Its hard when you don't have alot of people around. I do have friends and family around, but honestly I know its hard for them to relate regardless.

    Karrie

    I had just switched out the empty milk bag yesterday and was getting the water jug out of the frigde to pour myself a glass.  I was too lazy to lift the milk jug out of the way and it plopped on the floor.  If I could have left it there I would have.  So much for my pre TX floor washing efforts.  Now I have to pull out the fridge.

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited April 2012

    Ok, I have time to catch up now - had my oh so nutritious breakfast of coffee and pound cake - told you the appetite was back, as well as the 10 lbs I lost - and picked up the paperclips.  I didn't need my boys (kitties) batting them about under all the furniture (that is, if they ever choose to get up today, did I mention they are fat and lazy?)

    MLB - What a MESS!  I guess milk will cause a bit of an odor in time as it pools under the fridge!  And OMG on your friend's mom.  "Get your affairs in order?"  Really?  How awful for her.

    Lost - I PM'd you...hope your day gets better.

    Corky - good luck with TX today.  Speaking of 80s songs, when I had that infection/seroma pre chemo I kept singing "My Seroma" to the tune of My Sharona...

    I get super emtional at night - not necessarily crying/sad - just irritated as hell at everyone and everything.

    fedfan - sorry you had a bad time yesterday - ugh on the "rushing" of the A....I was really lucky my first TX and there were only a few people there.  Yesterday when I was having labs, they were bursting at the seams.

    Laura - I started taking Prilosec for the heartburn and it seems to be helping.  The only reason I chose that one is my mom has a huge quantity and she can't use it anymore so it was here.

    Ok, I know I probably missed some even with my two browsers open reading/posting system so hope everyone has a good day.  Katy - do you go today for TX?

    I (and my mom, its like she is my bodyguard or something) have to take my girls to the eye dr this afternoon for exams and new glasses (contacts for the older actually) and then we are doing a little belated birthday get together for my dad over at my bro/sil.  I have decided not to do the big buzz yet as long as I can still get my hair to look ok and it isn't falling out in clumps.

    Constipation - in general - I don't think anyone in our group has that screen name ;) - how to put this...I don't have the most regular time of it anyway so I got clogged up pretty quick...I managed to get it under control with just stool softeners although they take longer to work than laxatives...there are lists of foods out there that are natural laxatives but at the time I couldn't eat anything much less things I didn't like.

    Amy - you know I have been thinking of you with the chemo decision and I am relieved for you a decision has been made.  Yes, lunch soon - after I am safely in a wig so I do not shed all over the food ;)

  • journey4life
    journey4life Member Posts: 517
    edited April 2012

    Karri - omg, you crack me up with "My Seroma"! Thanks for the chuckle.

    Amymom - I hope you'll stay with our group even though your chemo journey is done. You'll always be a Marcher!

    On the subject of boob and hair loss - I mourned losing my breasts way more than I've mourned the loss of my hair. The hair will come back (I hope!) but I will never have "normal" breasts again. The TEs make my chest uncomfortable all the time - I wake up several times a night, as I roll over on the "rocks" that reside under my skin. I don't regret my choice to have TEs and implants after my BMX surgery, but some days are better than others...

    Came in the office today for the first time since my hair loss. One co-worker who didn't know about my BC was so encouraging and empowering. Told me I should take off the hat, put on big earrings, and strut my stuff!! I really needed a boost today.  Amazing what people do when we let them in...

    Got to get back to work - we're going to get through this, Marchers!! 

  • MichelleMassey
    MichelleMassey Member Posts: 213
    edited April 2012

    Well ever since corkys post I've been walking around singing "they're trying to make me go to chemo bit I won't go go go". Then karri's post about "my seroma"! What a musical we have going on here today! Hope everyone else is having a good day!

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited April 2012

    Alright y'all I did it!  I was getting ready to go this afternoon and looked at the mess of hair in the mirror and at the straightening iron and said screw it.  Grabbed a pair of scissors and gave myself a little haircut I like to call the "Barbie Doll 1982" - my mom was cleaning out her attic in prep to move and found all my old Barbies, 3/4 of which had their hair chopped off to the scalp.  It always started out as just a little trim. 

    Haven't done the buzz yet, DH will help with that.  I just wanted to do it and do it myself, alone, without all the drama my mom or DH would've added to the situation - I will post pics of me in the wig in a bit.

    Up yours cancer...

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited April 2012

    way to go Karri!

  • MichelleMassey
    MichelleMassey Member Posts: 213
    edited April 2012

    You rock karri! Can't wait to see the pics!

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited April 2012

    Okay, here goes, I actually had to make a photo bucket acct to post.  The thing that looks like a dead rat is my hair.  My mom had already cut it to right below ear length so I just chopped it all off.  Why didn't anyone tell my my hair was the color of, well, a rat?  Hideous!

    I have weird faces in these pictures...you know the "I am taking my own picture with a phone" face.

    hairweird face oneweird face two

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited April 2012

    Trying again.  First pic is hair - looks like dead rat.  How did I not know my hair was the color of a rat?  Second is weird face number one, third is weird face number two.

  • onvacation
    onvacation Member Posts: 1,344
    edited April 2012

    Beautiful Karri!

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited April 2012

    Thanks Kim!

    I will share what I shared to my little private circle of FB friends.  Edited for language (I have a potty mouth that has just gotten worse).

    Dear Cancer,

    F*** you.  I will decide when my hair comes out.

    Sincerely, 

    Me

  • MichelleMassey
    MichelleMassey Member Posts: 213
    edited April 2012

    You look gorgeous!! Show it no mercy!

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