March 2012 chemo

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  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2012

    MLB- They gave me Ativan during Chemo, said it was an anti-nausea med.

    Well, tomorrow is tx 2 so I am going out to enjoy today before I fall down the chemo rabbit hole.  I will try to catch up with everything this evening if I can.

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited April 2012

    cmcclean

    I probably got it for all 3 and didn't realize it.  Whatever works anti nausea I'm in.  Kind of down the hole myself right now, going for a lie down. Just got in from picking up a few things and it was nice to feel the warmth of the sun at least.  Last 2 I never made it out of the house day 3 so this is good.

  • tellie_savalis
    tellie_savalis Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2012

    MLB- Just checked my meds sheet.  It was Aloxi in IV and also Zofran.  I was given Ativan as a Rx for severe nausea and/or anxiety, insomnia.  The paper says DO NOT DRIVE.  I have taken it once and it does put you out pretty good.  I can't remember if you are driving after chemo but PLEASE check what you are getting.   

    Corky

  • MichelleMassey
    MichelleMassey Member Posts: 213
    edited April 2012

    Corky- they gave me Ativan with my chemo also. Knocked me out good. Good luck with 2 tomorrow. I have a week until my next one. Still tired so going to pass out for a while.

  • lanagraves
    lanagraves Member Posts: 596
    edited April 2012

    If it knocks you out, I need some. Cannot sleep at all!

  • journey4life
    journey4life Member Posts: 517
    edited April 2012

    michelle - I hope you don't mind if I quote what you said in your earlier post. It says so much...

    "We build ourselves up to be strong but all it takes is one added thing and we can break so easy. Some days it just seems like too much for any one person to handle."

    Marchers - we are all here because of FBC and this is our place to bitch, whine, cry, be afraid and express whatever the hell we feel. Its also our place to celebrate, encourage and support each other!  I don't know what I would do without you brave and amazing ladies. So glad I don't have to find out...

  • kltb04
    kltb04 Member Posts: 1,051
    edited April 2012

    Lana, I am going to ask about the Ativan when I go for my next MO visit/TX - I have heard of lots of people getting it for sleep.  I just have a harder time falling asleep than I used do unless I am taking something for pain.  And even then I wake up a lot and fall back asleep just in time to have to get up!

    munnibunny - good luck with your scan...just beware the contrast dye makes you feel like you are peeing yourself - :)  It would have freaked me out had the tech not told me that.

    Amy - you poor thing :( being afraid to go to sleep - hope things improve for you soon.

    Productive day here - counts were good (WBC back up to 6.4).  Went and got a monofilament wig at a wig shop - SUCH a difference with the way it looks/lies down on top.  It was pricey ($250) but insurance is going to reimburse at least part of it.  It looks better than my hair!  And the lady who manages the shop is going to thin out my freebie wig I took in there with me so I will have another one.  Still shedding but it isn't coming out in clumps yet so putting off the big shave. Then I went and got oldest DD yet another birthday gift to have to give her at her friend party - a pair of sparkly Bobs by Skechers (she asked for Toms but these cost a little less and look the same).  Then bought some thank you notes to send people who are bringing all this darn food and back home.

    The only thing really bothering me is something non - chemo related.  My ribs/area under my noncancer breast feel tender.  This has been going on off and on for months and I am sure if it were cancer related and something on my ribs (i.e. mets) it would've shown up on the PET/CT scan I had done after dx.  But it still bugs me.  Not pain really, just something I am aware of.  I don't know if it is posture related (I sit kind of funky in the corner of the couch), weight related, digestive system related.  Just something that makes me uncomfortable and worry.  I think I would have a scan every week if they would let me.  

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited April 2012

    Hey Ladies

    Just woke from a glorious nap.  Tea time!!  Re Ativan (thanks Corky for PMing me) No one and I mean no one told me not to drive!!!  I was only advised that someone should accompany me on the first TX incase of an adverse reactions!!!  Hence, I have driven myself the last two time!!!  I will be speaking to the MO about this.  Not cool!

  • MichelleMassey
    MichelleMassey Member Posts: 213
    edited April 2012

    Lisa - I totally agree about this board. I would be going crazy if it weren't for you ladies. It helps to vent but I've also had some great laughs! Big hugs and thank you to everyone.



    Karri- I had the same thing but realized it was from sleeping on the couch. I can't sleep through the night anymore and spend quite a few hours there. I don't have the pain when I use the bed more. And I wish I would of had some warning about that dye! He told me I would heat up but not about feeling like I wet myself! First thing I did when they pulled me out was grab my crotch!! Lol!

  • CAYH
    CAYH Member Posts: 99
    edited April 2012

    Hi everyone!

    Am on day 4 after tx1 - no complaints except for yesterday's constipation.  Took 2 Equate's "Senna Laxative & Docusate Sodium" (same as Senokot-S) & almost back to normal today - whoot - yes, am thankful for that!  Like to believe my daily Kefir smoothies & yogurt are helping too...

    Yikes, Dr. Amy!  So glad to hear your embolism was caught early.  Do you have a PICC line in your arm, then?  I recall seeing warnings for blood clots on my care sheet &  I've been using one of those Magic Bag thingies to keep some heat in my armpit several times a day to prevent phlebitis - it's all frightening & you've got so much more to deal with all at once!

     Anyone else giving themselves daily Neupogen shots instead of getting the one Neulasta?  Was advised to start mine 48 hrs after tx & so far no symptons have appeared.  An advantage of the Neupogen (besides price) is that the dose is easily controlled & can be cut back if not needed.  BTW, have read that some ladies' Neulasta was $6K@ & even way upwards - my Neupogen cost was $199.22 + $9.22 dispensing fee for 10x300ml vials (enough for one complete 10 day round).  Since we no longer have private insurance, my provincial drug benefit paid for it with only a $2 copay from me - am very thankful for that too...over even my entire 8 cycles, that's still under $1600 - I don't get how the Neulasta can be *so* much more expensive!?

    Catherine22 - I love that you think your "social filter may have been affected by the chemo".  May I use that one?  It's a great excuse  -  ha ha!  All the rants had me laughing, too.

    Those of you taking steroids - how often & for how long do you take them? I only had 2 tabs of Dexamethasone as saline infusion was starting.  Guess that's one reason I've been able to sleep well enough... 

    Ackkkk, JanuaryIce - so sorry to hear you're feeling so crappy!  Hope your appetite returns soon so your energy level can get back to normal.  Thinking of you, sending you positive vibes!

    Cindy 

  • Myleftboob
    Myleftboob Member Posts: 1,469
    edited April 2012

    CAYH

    While there is a big price difference between the Neulasta and Neupogen, my nurse said the Neulasta costs $2700 and said the latter was $1400?  Its amazing to see the difference in cost depending on where you live it seems.  They did have to find out upfront which my insurance carrier was prepared to pay for prior to giving me my prescription.  While I was approved for Neulasta I do like the fact that you can cut back if need be. 

    I know we're both in Ontario but I find it interesting that my bloodwork is only done the day before TX, that's it.  I would really have no idea other than if I was ill if anything was off kilter blood work wise.  Do you find the same out of Niagara?

  • CAYH
    CAYH Member Posts: 99
    edited April 2012

    Same here with the bloodwork, MLB - is a bit worrisome to me since the manufacturers of Neupogen (& also of Neulasta) recommend 2x week when on it...hmmmmm.

     Asked my onc nursie pal about any ill effects of way too high WBC & she said not a worry - so I guess I won't...

    Also - seems those crazy prices for Neulasta are stateside? They's got generous insurance companies, they do!?

  • gelina99
    gelina99 Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2012

    Hi there - I'm joining a bit late.  I started the 1st of 6X TC on March 27th, four weeks out from BMX with immediate implant reconstruction w/Alloderm.  First treatment went very well -- some tiredness, definitely not quite as much appetite, some sensitivity to food flavors.  I've been brushing with Biotene toothpaste and have Biotene mouthwash and spray.  Drinking lots of water, and the occasional beer or glass of wine, which my MO said was "necessary."  :)   Have Zofran, but am also wearing a Sancuso patch which definitely keeps nausea at bay.  Frankly, the continuing discomfort from my spanky new implants is bothering more than the chemo at the moment ... but I expect that to change.  Going in tomorrow for blood tests, MO will give me a shot of Neupogen if my WBC is low.  Nice to be here with everyone going through the same crap! 

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited April 2012
    CAYH and MLB: I'm in TO and only get my bloodwork the day of chemo, right before...so nobody would ever know what condition my counts were in...IS there a risk to having WBC too high? However because I ended up in ER on day 10, I did find out that my WBC were "good", and my platelets were "good... still, we here in Ontario at least don't seem to be monitered in the interim the way our friends in the States are...
  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited April 2012

    Welcome to gelina99! Sorry you need to be here, but you will love these incredible ladies.

  • Lumpynme
    Lumpynme Member Posts: 747
    edited April 2012

    mlb: ativan is anti anxiety-but i understand it also helps anti nausea

    just sayin

    amy- wow...i have no other words.

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited April 2012

    I don't know if this is going to work, trying to post a link. This is not to make light of the major hurdle we face with the hair thing, but to get me charged up for the buzz. My sweet mum sent it to me today.

    http:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZH61KxA q0

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited April 2012

    Hi everyone

    I hope this post will give some encouragement to the ladies and gentlemen starting their second round of FEC his month.

    My second infusion today (April 2) was easier than my first. The antisickness meds given in the drip pre-chemo were reduced, I believe.

    So far, I have just had a bit of hand/foot tingling and a slight headache that went after the Cyclophosphamide went in and went about half an hour later.

    Both came back slightly this evening but I drank water, ate a green apple it it is and gone now.

    Good luck!

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited April 2012

    http:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZH61KxA q0

    trying again to attach a link to a song...

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited April 2012

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZH6lKxA_q0

    AHA. I finally (I think) figured out how to put a link in here.

     So my sweet mum sent this to me today...to give me courage I guess. I actually kind of love this song now. Worth a listen.

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited April 2012

    Alicethe cat:

    Thanks for that encouragement. I go for #2 FEC tomorrow at 8 am, and feel pretty wired about it. On the one hand if it goes exactly like #1 then at least I know what to expect...but on the other hand, it may not be the same, more of the unknown...anyway, it's encourageing to hear you on the other side of #2.

  • tc9876
    tc9876 Member Posts: 136
    edited April 2012

    Cayh: You sound like me re:constipation after tx#1.  It was a RELIEF to get things moving again.

    gelina:  Welcome!

    All others: I hope things are tolerable!

  • journey4life
    journey4life Member Posts: 517
    edited April 2012

    katycb - I listened to the song - at first I thought wth, but it kinda grows on you! Could be a theme song in the making...

    I think there are some ladies from the US who are also not monitored during the off weeks. I'm glad to be monitored so that if my counts were to drop dangerously low, someone would know about it sooner than a trip to the ER.

    gelina - welcome to the Marchers! You'll find lots of support, encouragement and information here. I'm just sorry you had to join.

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited April 2012

    lisa: I know it may not be everyone's cup of tea, but good reminder of the fact that BC can beat up our bodies but not our souls...

  • MichelleMassey
    MichelleMassey Member Posts: 213
    edited April 2012

    Well put Katy!

  • journey4life
    journey4life Member Posts: 517
    edited April 2012

    Amen to that, Katy!

    I don't think I've said this lately - I HATE, HATE, HATE BREAST CANCER!!

  • LTR227
    LTR227 Member Posts: 10
    edited April 2012

    I just want to stop in say hello to everyone!! I don't get a chance to jump on much. I am starting to have anxiety of TX#2, which is on Thursday, because I finally feel "almost" normal!!! So I had 10 days of feeling such extreme fatigue, and now only get 4 days of feeling ok before it starts again?? I find it amazing how some can't sleep, while others are so tired, and how some of us are not hungry/can't eat, while others are starving and want to eat everything. 

    I've already lost 12 lbs, since this whole thing began, and don't have that much to play with, so hopefully I won't lose any more. But nothing tastes good, I'm down to plain chicken, rice, bananas and strawberries. Oh, and anything creamy. Does anyone else have unbelievable heartburn and reflux? I'm going to mention it to the onc. when I get to my appointment.

     I hope everyone has a wonderful week. I wish I could get on the computer more, but I'm having to spend my energy on my home business, which is already slacking cause I don't have the energy to get things done.

    Hugs,

    Laura 

  • MichelleMassey
    MichelleMassey Member Posts: 213
    edited April 2012

    Lisa - I HATE it to! Just want to yell that out sometimes.



    Laura- which chemo are you on? Sorry to hear its wearing you down so bad. Definitely let your MO know what it's doing to you. Hope you get to feeling better.

  • journey4life
    journey4life Member Posts: 517
    edited April 2012

    Laura - I'm so sorry you're having a tough time. Talk to your MO about something for the acid reflux/heartburn. There's bound to be something that will work for you. What type of tx are you getting?  (((hugs)))

    Here are some of the lyrics to the song Katy shared:

    "Breast cancer and chemotherapy
    Took away her crown and glory
    She promised God if she was to survive
    She would enjoy everyday of her life
    On national television her diamond eyes are sparkling
    Baldheaded like a full moon shining
    Singing out to the whole wide world like hey

    (Chorus)
    I am not my hair
    I am not this skin
    I am not your expectations (no)
    I am not my hair
    I am not this skin
    I am the soul that lives within"

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited April 2012

    Laura: are you every 2 weeks then? I hope you can get some solutions to your SEs. Hang in there.

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