Breast Cancer Risk May Be Higher With Just One Drink a Day

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  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited March 2012

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/243543.php

    Light Drinking Can Raise Breast Cancer Likelihood

  • Susie123
    Susie123 Member Posts: 804
    edited March 2012

    That's so funny, I don't drink, at all, yet I have breast cancer.

    Wouldn't it be great if we really knew what caused it. It seems so many studies come out with "causes", some of them contradictory to each other, yet nothing we can really say, yeah, that must be it. 

  • Angelfalls
    Angelfalls Member Posts: 849
    edited March 2012

    Susie,



    A risk factor is not the same as a cause:



    My understanding is that the number 1 risk factor for BC is being a woman. However, 7 out of 8 women will NOT get BC in their lifetime. Meanwhile, more than 300 men are diagnosed just in the UK (where I am), each year and they clearly do not have the number 1 risk factor.



    So, the presence of a risk factor does not mean you will get BC any more than the absence of a risk factor means that you are safe from it.



    At this time, none of us, or our medical teams, know why we, as individuals, have developed BC, so we cannot be responsible. We have enough to deal with just getting through diagnosis and treatment, without having a guilt trip about what we may or may not have done to cause our BC. So I'm off for a glass of wine... Or I would be if chemo hadn't put me right off it!!!



    Angelfalls

  • beacon800
    beacon800 Member Posts: 922
    edited March 2012

    Angelfalls, I really like your explanation.  Very often I have felt like, "oh I can't eat this, can't drink that, can't take this, can't do that" all to prevent breast cancer.  But you put it very well.  We don't know why it happens and that is all there is to it.  One cannot live life in a bubble.

    Fortunately, science is quite good at treating it, so we can look to that resource.

  • Angelfalls
    Angelfalls Member Posts: 849
    edited March 2012

    Happy to help! ;o) I personally think that moderation is the key with all of these risk factors, but a little bit of what you fancy is good for the soul!!! There are Quality of Life issues here, too! Enjoy the weekend xx

  • greenfrog
    greenfrog Member Posts: 269
    edited March 2012

    Repeated studies have now found the correlation between alcohol consumption and breast cancer to be statistically significant. 

    Risk factors following a cancer diagnosis, when you are fending of risk of recurrence/mets, are very different to those risks affecting the non-cancer population.

    I quit alcohol at dx. It is the only adjustment I have made to my diet and lifestyle.

  • pickle
    pickle Member Posts: 1,409
    edited March 2012

    I am now post menopausal and on Aromasin so how does a glass or two of wine affect my risk.? Aromasin is used to inhibit my testosterone from converting to estrogen so will it also block any alcohol related estrogen effects? I have wondered about this and also wondered if It is safe for me to have soy now?

  • Angelfalls
    Angelfalls Member Posts: 849
    edited March 2012

    Greenfrog,



    I think that post-diagnosis, we all have to do what feels right for us personally. But for me, moderation is the key and the nutritionist at my cancer centre, as well as my onc, agree. So if I feel like a glass of wine with a nice meal out, I'm not going to worry that this will cause more spread. Having said that, I'm not about to go binge-drinking every weekend either... ;o) Good luck!



    Angelfalls xx

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited March 2012

    I so agree and say it myself often - can't live in a bubble.  So I do make efforts to avoid certain foods, beverages, etc.  I will have a drink once in a great while.  Heck, even when I do have one I split the shot up in halves so it slows the rate of putting the alcohol in my system.  Did that even before BC.  I just can't stand losing control and getting drunk.

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited March 2012

    OY!  Here we go again.

    This shows up every few months. You would think these scientists could move on...they believe they have established this point so why spend time and money.

    There are so many studies showing this as a correlation and others showing it is not a correlation.  If I did not enjoy wine, I would just stop.  To me, it is something I enjoy with dinner. If this is what kills me, so be it.  Cancer has taken enough from me.

    I guess all these women (tv, personal friends, etc.) that are recovering (or current) alcoholics and do not get breast cancer....it's a crap shoot!  Hahaha, maybe drinking to excess is the key and moderation is the devil Surprised

  • greenfrog
    greenfrog Member Posts: 269
    edited March 2012

    Alcohol is graded by the World Health Organisation and the International Agency of Research on Cancer as a Group 1 Carcinogen. Other Group 1s include asbestos and mustard gas.

     Cheers.Wink

  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited March 2012

    As a recovering alcoholic, then I would be considered a high risk, given that I was unable to stand up every day for years! 

    Angelfalls, I like your explanation very much indeed. 

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited March 2012

    Also salted fish. Weird. 

  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited March 2012

    I have not read the salted fish one, that is so weird, Yorkiemom. 

    I certainly knew that a high level of alcohol consumption was a risk factor. 

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited March 2012

    This report simply provides a review of the data from all the previous studies.  So there is nothing new here.  Or as wallycat said, "OY!  Here we go again."

    So let's see.... the study says that one drink a day increases risk by 4%.  WOW!  A whole 4%??? This means that my estimated 20% risk is actually 20.8%, because I do consume one drink a day. Now that's a compelling reason to stop doing something that I enjoy! 

    But wait, what about this study says that moderate alcohol consumption reduces my risk of dying of heart disease by 21.8%.  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19597054

    And then there is this study that suggests an even better result: "among women 50 or older, light-to-moderate drinkers (1.5 to 29.9 g per day) had a significant reduction in mortality from all causes, which appeared to be the result of a substantially lower risk of fatal cardiovascular disease. Among light-to-moderate drinkers, the relative risk of death from a cardiovascular cause was 0.59 (95 percent confidence interval, 0.47 to 0.73) for women 50 years of age or older. "  A 41% reduction in mortality from heart disease?? And according to the table in the article, an overall reduction in mortality (from all causes) of 12%?  WOOHOO!  Hand me the glass!  http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199505113321901#t=articleResults

    So let me quote wallycat again, since I could have written the exact same thing: 

    If I did not enjoy wine, I would just stop. To me, it is something I enjoy with dinner. If this is what kills me, so be it. Cancer has taken enough from me. 

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited March 2012

    Sommer, I checked again and the salted fish has to be "Chinese style" whatever that means. Undecided

    Also, Tamoxifen is on that list with the qualifier that it also reduces risk of breast cancer! 

    I can't copy and paste on this board but here is the link:

    www.cancer.org/Cancer/CancerCauses/OtherCarcinogens/GeneralInformationaboutCarcinogens/known-and-probable-human-carcinogens 

  • Angelfalls
    Angelfalls Member Posts: 849
    edited March 2012

    "Statistics, damn statistics and lies..." or something like that! ;o)

  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited April 2012

    "There's lies, and then there are statistics.  As a researcher, which is my job, I often wonder where all this research comes from, some plonker in a polyester suit, with a too short tie, compiling graphs and flogging them to the government (who are silly enough to buy it)

    Yorkiemom,

    I shall indeed have a look at your link, thank you.  I too, am puzzled at the Chinese style of salted fish! 

    I haven't had a drop of booze for almost two years, not even a bloody whiff of a liquer filled chocolate. 

  • Sommer43
    Sommer43 Member Posts: 600
    edited April 2012

    I had to smile at Wallycat's post.  Especially as a recovering alcoholic.  Isn't the risk for developing breast cancer, because we have breasts? 

  • Susie123
    Susie123 Member Posts: 804
    edited April 2012

    Angelfalls..I always thought the link between "risk factor" and "cause" were simply a given. Studies that say don't do A because it will increase your risk of getting B. Of course it's also a given that having breasts, men or women, are key to having breast cancer. My intended point being, it really is a crap shoot. Study after study and none of it is conclusive for any of us. Some get it, some don't. Some live, some die. It's all so indiscriminate. 

  • Angelfalls
    Angelfalls Member Posts: 849
    edited April 2012

    Susie,

    A cause will make it happen; a risk factor increases the risk that it may happen, which is why the reports state that A may increase your risk of B, not A will cause B. So having breasts doesn't cause you to have BC, or all women and men would have it. But it does increase your risk.

    In fact, as I said before, the number 1 risk factor is not having breast tissue, it's being a woman. That's why relatively few men get BC. After that come other risk factors such as age, how old you were when you first got your period, whether you've taken additional oestrogen,... All these are significant risk factors, before you get to the relatively lower risk lifestyle factors.

    Crap shoot - my point exactly!

    Angelfalls xx

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