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I have read an article that anti-depressants may cause breast cancer.    As there are many of us who need some help with panic and depression, this causes me some concern.   Also if sugar causes cancer which I have also read, are diabetics more prone to cancer of any kind???  Your thoughts?

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  • ladyfighter
    ladyfighter Member Posts: 184
    edited March 2012

    Where does it say anti-depressants cause cancer? I have been using Effexor for 7 years I love it

  • Kadia
    Kadia Member Posts: 314
    edited March 2012

    You can find articles that say all sorts of things, often irresponsible and unfounded. There are especially people/organizations biased against psychiatry that spread misinformation about psychiatric treatments. AFAIK, there are no actual studies showing a causative (or even correlative) link between antidepressants and cancer. Untreated depression can have devastating impacts on health, including heart health, so if that is something you struggle with, getting help (whether pharmaceutical or otherwise) is highly advisable.

    Too much sugar isn't healthy for the body, but there isn't evidence that sugar causes, or "feeds" (something you'll see claimed a lot) cancer. I don't know if there is a correlation between diabetes types and cancer. Maybe someone else with knowledge of that topic will post.

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited March 2012

    I have been on anti-depressants for 25 years for depression and panic attacks. Seriously they have given me a quality of life. My daughter researched it and wants me to cut back.  I am ready to have a panic attack thinking about ever cutting back...lol...I am just wondering if there are people on these boards that are not taking any anti-depressants and still got breast cancer.  My BS told me that because I have polycystic ovaries, my body produced more estrogen.  I am now post-menap. so I am sure this BC has developed over time due to estrogen levels. Doesn't just about anything cause cancer?

  • ladyfighter
    ladyfighter Member Posts: 184
    edited March 2012

    Barbiecorn, I will never get off Effexor because I did and it was pure hell, I went back on it. If it works for me then I will leave it alone. I take it one per day faithfully :) my mo said my chemo won't be problem with effexor, yippee!!



    I had grandma smoked like chimney, plays cards and eat whatever and she died when she was 87 because she fell and hit her head. I got someone I know who is careful with foods, no smoke, no drink, etc and died of pancreas.... Who knew!? I got no one in my family who has or had breast cancer, I am the only one.

  • Kadia
    Kadia Member Posts: 314
    edited March 2012

    I urge you to take your medical advice from a doctor, not your daughter (unless she is a medical professional specializing in oncology and/or psychiatry). Sorry if that sounds harsh. I'm sure she wants what is best for you. But untreated, or under-treated, depression and anxiety are nothing to mess with. If you are fortunate to have treatment that works, its hard to imagine a doctor advising you to alter what you are doing, particularly on concerns that are at best speculative.

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited March 2012

    Yes, Kadia...I agree...everything on the planet causes cancer...sometimes this internet information makes me crazy...because no one know for sure.  Quality of Life is important.

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited March 2012

    I agree with you both...when I went off my meds....I couldn't go to work....could not function...I have had a quality of life for all these years...I agree...no one knows who is going to get what...I too do not have BC in my family....my mother died at the age of 98 (3 years ago) and never even had a mammography or a pap test....she ate everything...go figure....sometimes it is just the luck of the draw.  My daughter is scared, I know that.  She is worried about me.  She is an only child so it is hard on her but I gotta do what I gotta do!!!

  • ladyfighter
    ladyfighter Member Posts: 184
    edited March 2012

    I got aunt (my Dad's sister) who is 88, never had mammogram in her life! Doesn't take any meds, still working 5 days a week from 8am to 2pm at Panera bread restaurant, cleaning off tables, everyone loves her! So every one is different.



    Do not wean off anti-depressant without doctor, but if it works for you, why get off ? That why I m still taking it. I would have been in bed cover my head when I first found out mY BC. I was upset at first but I brush it aside and ready to fight! Of course I dread all SE but I won't know until actual day.



    Off I go bed! Good luck your tomorrow treatments! Xoxox

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited March 2012

    Even if antidepressants caused BC for sure, I wouldn't stop taking them. I've had 4 major depressive episodes. The last went on for 3 years. I have a 90% chance of another and they have all been life-threatening. IMO BC is a lot easier to treat than depression. My shrink thinks remaining on my antidepressants are the best insurance against another episode, and I'm taking his advice.

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited March 2012

    I couldn't agree with you more Wren -   I will PM you.

  • spicedlife
    spicedlife Member Posts: 182
    edited March 2012

    Wow, I am glad I found this thread.  I have been on antidepressants for many many yrs also and i am freaked out about changing or stopping them.  i stopped the hrt when dx in Feb and frankly i am a wreck.  everything hurts my feelings, i don't feel like the same person.  I was doing SO good, great at work home family gonna run a 5k before my 50th birthday and WHAM bc.   i keep telling the doctors that it is a VERY BAD IDEA for me to be off meds and I really feel very discounted.  of course that could be me minus hrt!   am rambling but glad to be here

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    I don't know what kind of "research" your daughter was doing - but expect it was via internet searches - and we've got to remember - anyone can write ANYTHING and put it online.  No editors, no proof, the wildest things are now available for every one to read.

    I won't comment beyond saying, check your sources.  And remember how important medication is for dealing with depression - as Wren said, they save lives.

  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited March 2012

    I had never taken anti-depressants until I had BC.  My DH had a brain aneurysm 9 months before my BC diagnosis, quite frankly I don't know how I survived without any from that event alone . (He's fine BTW, we were very lucky).  I started Effexor after finishing chemo, I'm on a low dose, the Effexor XR 75 mg./day - I told my onc. I have no intention of ever going off it... lol.. I am going to wait until I am off Femara which will be July of this year, 2012.  Then I may revisit the issue of weaning of Effexor, as one of the SEs is weight gain, and I certainly have that one.

    Extra benefit of it is that my horrible hot flashes basically disappeared once I started it.

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited March 2012

    Yes Sunflowers - it was the internet search and I would not be able to go off mine either.  Been on them for years.  BC just set me back a bit - if I wasn't on them, I just don't know...my dr. upped them for now...too much stress!!

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited March 2012

    I am sure there are a lot more on this board that are on them either before or after BC.

  • dogsandjogs
    dogsandjogs Member Posts: 1,907
    edited March 2012

    I have heard that anything that depresses your immune system can cause cancer. 

    I was on an anti-depressant/mood elevator for a few years more than 30 years ago. I started running every day and found I did not need them anymore. Running is a great mood elevator and to this day if I don't exercise every day I get very depressed.

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited April 2012

    I've gotta get back to exercising!!!!

  • Kadia
    Kadia Member Posts: 314
    edited April 2012

    Exercise is certainly great for the body and mind in many ways, for for many of us, it is not a cure, just a complementary treatment.

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited April 2012

    hoping to find a decent way to control depression and anxiety myself

  • iLUV2knit
    iLUV2knit Member Posts: 157
    edited May 2012

    The doctor prescribed me Effexor for the hot flash symptoms but after reading all of the side effects, I never took it.  I surely do not want any weight gain!!  It would be nice to not feel so grumpy and have low energy though.  I also at times don't feel like I am the same person I was prior to the BC diagnosis.  I have little time for people who are not important in my life, and have brushed off my BFF of many years due to her lack of support through my toughest times. 

    What does Effexor make you feel like?? I would not consider myself clinically depressed by any means but I definately have changed...

  • edot
    edot Member Posts: 72
    edited May 2012

    I've been on zoloft for about 10 years. Before that I had a lot of panic and anxiety, irritability, and occasional depression. Being on zoloft helped me get through menopause (never had much of a hot flash as far as I can tell), and it helped me through BC. I also had a lot of therapy which helped me (this was all before BC). 

    As for weight gain.... I lost weight on zoloft at first, then it all came back, but lost it again. Then I gained weight with steroids and chemo, lost that and despite being on arimidex, my weight is still going down very slowly, and still no hot flashes to speak of. I've always had weight issues, but they feel more controlled.

     I've never taken effexor. But I can tell you that an effective anti-depressant makes you feel better, more like doing things. It connects you to the world. If anxiety is an issue, effective meds make things feel less threatening. In a sense, you may not notice everything around you as a potential threat. When I'm anxious, I feel as though I'm walking through jagged glass...looking forward, looking back with no time for the present, the now. When my anxiety is controlled, I'm here, and things are smoother and I feel that I can deal with life. I think everyone has their own feelings, of course. 

    Exercise can achieve the same results in some people. Fish oil can help too, but for some, meds and therapy are required.

     I don't know if antidepressants can cause cancer. Like so many things, you have to look at the sample of individuals studied, and their other characteristcs. There is an enormous stigma against psychiatric meds and treatments, and while they don't work for everyone, and aren't perfect, they can help. 

    As for sugar, I think it has more to do with insulin - insulin encourages cells to grow, and cancer cells don't seem to know how to shut off. So by limiting sugar, carbs, etc, you limit the production of insulin, if that makes sense. Diabetes and cancer may share some risk factors, too. 

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