Clothing advice for the flat chested?
Hello wise gals,
It's a little more than 6 weeks since my bmx, no recon. Now that I am once again able to put things over my head ( yippee!), I'm trying to figure out what my new look should be. Right now I'm going totally flat, and imagine I'll continue doing so for several months....maybe forever, but the jury's out on that one.
I'm a forty- something mother of two young kids, but I still want to look semi- cute. I've been trying on my tops and they all look so big ( the chemo weight loss program has not helped). Im in the middle of treatment and am so tired of looking sick all the time. Some friends have offered to take me out for a little retail therapy, but I'm not even sure I want to go. I want to learn to love my new body, but I'm not there yet. I fear trying on clothes might make me even more discouraged. Also, once the chemo and radiation are over I'll be taking tamoxifen, and anticipate that my body shape will change once again...so don't want to purchase tons of items that won't really work 6 months from now.
Should I just stick it out and be at peace with the super- baggy look for a while? Or are there a few pieces I could get that might help my confidence a bit? If so, what should I look for?
Sorry for the long, kinda whiny post. Taxol was yesterday. Bet you could tell.
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Hi! I had my PBMX in December and have gone flat since. Some of my tops don't look good at all any longer, too droopy on top. I bought 3 light weight quilted vests before my surgery and wear them over long sleeve t''s or blouses, usually with a scarf looped low around my neck. Folks that I meet have no idea that I didn't have recon.
Now that the warmer weather is getting nearer, I'm looking for those breezy sheer scarves to wear over tops.
hugs,
Cats
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I had a umx without recon. I frequently go out flat on just the one side (and I am a size D on the remaining side). A vest or scarf...and no one notices. I am very fond of my vests. I think that vests and scarves will be useful no matter what changes come over the next few months, so probably won't be a waste of money.
On another note, I have a wonderful used clothing store nearby that is always my first stop so that I save on money. I used it a lot as I lost 50 pounds slowly, so I could buy clothes that I knew I would only fit into for short periods. Spending with less guilt...:) You might consider seeking out something like that!
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Wrongchick there's a wonderful thread on this forum that has advice and pictures from other members too. Check out Wardrobe Pics for Boobless Days (just click to go there). And more inspiration here: The Flat Look vs. Prosthesis (with Pics).
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I've been going flat since my 2/10/12 bmx. I'm layering and going with prints on the overshirt. Either a tank or shelf-bra cami underneath and a button-down blouse over it. Was at the thrift store (read, cheap cheap resale shop) today to pick up a few more short-sleeve button-down blouses. This is Fla after all. I mentioned something while checking out about I like using this store when I'm going to be a size for only a short period of time. The cashier said "why, are you going to gain weight". I very slightly opened the blouse a bit more and she was surprised, said she'd not even noticed it at all.
So, there's a idea for you. I've read that scarves, busy prints, vests are all good.
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hi Wrongchick, sorry you're here but glad you found us.
I had BMX in Feb 2010. No recon and no prosthetics, I've gone flat since then. Like you, I had to evaluate my wardrobe to figure out what still looked good. First, anything with bust darts was out. Flat was one thing, empty was another. If you can afford it, Coldwater Creek has beautiful clothes without bust darts. I work in an office so a good comfy look is a simple shell under a jacket or cardigan.
Someone I know likes Dress Barn for their prices and selection of ruffled tops that camouflage a flat chest. I was self-conscious at first, but realized people are way less observant than I gave them credit for. So dress for your comfort, not anyone else's.
Best wishes as you heal! ((hugs))
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Wear tops with some kind of detail at the top. It will distract the eye. Wearing layers helps too. Try clothes on, it might look good on the rack but terrible on you. After awhile I had a better idea what would & wouldn't look good on me. You never know for sure what size to get either. I wore anywhere from a small to a large. I went flat for 3 years and most people didn't notice unless I pointed it out.
Dresses were harder to find but definitely had to try them on.
I recently decided to do reconstruction & thankfully I can still wear everything that I have.
Have fun shopping! NJ
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Hi there...just a suggestion that works well for me, fantastic earrings! Combine these with a print shirt or a scarf/vest and the look is pretty good. Drape neck cowls are very good for dressed up.
Under my clothes I wear a silk cami, it is soft, comforting, covering and healing for my spirit to feel good in my silk. I don't plan on any reconstruction, so these are the things I will continue to explore... I wish you the best and I send you good strong healing energy.....
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Before I decided to do delayed reconstruction, I was gloriously flatchested for two years.
It took me about 6 months to realize that most people were not looking at my flat chest and I became more confident.
Any tops that were cut to outline the breasts (i.e.; high empire waists, halter tops with a seam under the breasts, etc) just made the flatness more obvious. I wore welling fitting "tee" shirt tops and blouses that button down the front and didn't have darts for the bust area.
As other posters have said, prints worked well. I personally do not like scarfs around my neck and never wore any and since I live in Florida where the temperatures can be warm, I never layered with vests.
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I have been going flat since 1/11/11. I don't really care what other may think of my clothes. I wear what I think I look good in and as cheap as possible! I found some new cami's at walmart that have adjustable thin straps and a looped neckline with some roushing for like six bucks. I bought them a little bigger so they look like tank tops. The only thing I am conscious about is my fake cleavage showing from the fatty nonbreasts that I have. My best suggestion is look around at different stores and try stuff on. If you can afford it right now, get yourself a few tops that you think you look good in! There is a show on tv called What Not to Wear. They ALWAYS say dress for how your body is now, not how you would like it to be later!! Happy shopping!! It may be a bit harder to find tops, but everyone has things about their bodies that makes it hard to find clothes for!
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I am very tall and before my BM almost two years ago I was quite small breasted and folks used to always mistake me for a man.
They still do (...sigh...) and now it's worse since chemo because my new hair will take a long time to grow out, so I just gave in and went to the tall men's store and bought a few shirts. If they have double front pockets, that seems to serve as good camo and people I meet don't seem to notice. I also try to buy prints because that also helps folks not notice.
At least they fit me. I have not tried on one single women's item of clothing that does. It's a perpetual source of sadness for me, but I cannot stand the weight of the forms or the feelings of the bras so have little choice but to go flat.
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I thought I'd be wearing button down woven blouses. That was my plan anyway. Pre-BMX I went out & bought 5 of them. They are hanging in my closet. I'm just not comfortable in them. I'm mostly wearing cotton knit tops. Nothing really clinging, not baggy either. I wore cami's underneath everything for the 1st month but then stopped, so they're sitting in my drawer. I've only had to dress-up once since my surgery. I did the ruffle top thing, just not for me. I felt so uncomfortable. Good thing it lasted only 3hours.
I did RADs last July & August. I could only wear the lightest weight cotton sleeveless knit shirts I could find, so had to go with dark colors. I actually found some at LandsEnd. I'd never been a LandsEnd shopper except for kids clothes when they were on sale.
I'm11 months out & I still have a small amount of swelling on one side. So slightly asymetrical. Kinda bugs me but I doubt anyone else notices.
I've found that I'll occasionally spend more on a top than I ever would have pre-BMX. If it makes me feel good & works with my flatness,I chose not to waste any more time shopping. I guess I'm still trying to figure out how to deal(clotheswise) with my own flatness. Definitely "trial & error". You'll find your way to clothes that make you feel good & are comfortable(you'll need comfort with 2 small kids).
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I think halter tops are the most flattering (excuse the pun). These styles in a colourful print or even black look great and sexy. If you don't like sleeveless just put on a light jacket. Baggy just looks like you are trying to cover up something.
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Check out page 3 of the thread Wardrobe Pics for Boobless Days for more examples on a member of this website who looks fantastic wearing halter tops.
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One look that works well, in my opinion, is a tank/sleeveless T in a dark color, topped with a thin, floaty white or light-colored shirt of some kind. I got some things like that last summer for chemo (to shelter me from sun), but find that they work well post-BMX as well. When I couldn't wear bras, it also worked to tack some light forms into the tank directly.
But you have already gotten a lot of good suggestions. Prints work, stripes work, busy colors work.
I bought my chemo wardrobe in H&M, so what I spent was minimal. But I highly recommend buying some things for where you are right now, because it can help you feel better.
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Just Jean, I have some LE issues, mild thankfully, in my trunk which make wearing a bra quite uncomfortable and a bad idea besides.
I initially tacked fiber fill foobs into a tank with basting stitches and wore that under my clothes instead of a bra. It works just fine. When I got a bit tired of basting boobs all the time, I took the front half of a cheap mastectomy bra and basted that into the tank. It works. So now I can wash the tank with the bra attached, and tuck the foobs into it when I feel the need for some "filler" in my clothes.
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I really appreciated all of the photos...I do like and enjoy the idea of a tank top with something flowing on top, and I choose to do this myself often.
I am also the queen of scarves when it is cold outside and can drape them, and wear even some very fancy ones. But my favorite piece of winter clothing is from Kohls, a cowl neck light weight sweater, and the cowl covers the whole front, it is very big and deep and I feel quite secure in it.
Thanks so much all!
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Layering works for me. I wore long cardigans and vests over long sleeved t's or mock turtlenecks when it was cold and now i'm wearing summery shrugs or light crocheted vests over t-shirts or lightweight knit tops. Darker colors seem to make it less noticeable. Also, the peasant blouses that are "in" this summer are perfect. I always wear a sports bra underneath to visually even out my chest since a lot of tissue had to be taken from places. Horizontal stripes work too.
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I'm definitely dressing differently now. I try to always wear earrings when I go out, esp. if the rest of my outfit is on the gender-neutral side. I also find myself looking for tops that are embellished in front. It doesn't have to be ruffles or lace, just some kind of detail like embroidery or pleating. I also love the drapey cowl necks, although I have to be careful not to get ones that droop down too far in front. I'm adding more tunic tops to my wardrobe, as they nicely disguise a not-so-little tummy. Being flat on top tends to accentuate my gut, making it look bigger than it already is, so the tunics are an option for days when I just don't feel like layering. But o/w, tanks and camis peeking out from under your top are a great option. And I'll echo the others here when I say most people just don't notice! Give them some feminine visual cues and most will never look any further than that.
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Dear Wrong Chick,
First of all, I want you to go out shopping - for a spring lip gloss that will brighten up your face while you finish Taxol.
I don't think this is an issue of "flat vs chest" as much as a "creating a fab new look going forward". I had minimal changes to my body, but my long hair is a thing of the past. And you know what!!! I look fabulous. But I did have to re-imagine my whole look, and there are certain things that no longer work balance-wise.
Probably not this afternoon, but you will need to try on tops and find out what really works. What looks good will also depend on the rest of your shape, and I don't have enough info to advise. I would go for help here and find someone who can bring you stuff to try on.
Your body may not change that much going forward. I take anastrazole, and I exercise. My body is not hat different from ten years ago, or even my 20s (other than I am more sculpted).
There are tons of options out there. I would start with neutral black slacks that fit and go shopping. I am suspecting very different brands of clothing and very different cuts. Plus colors that do something for you.
I will leave you with an exercise. Try to imagine a stylish woman with short hair, a cute top over a silk cami and with nicely-fitted trousers and a dazzling smile. That is YOU in six months time.
I have given you the canvas......it's now up to you to fill in the details. Have fun, and do use your friends plus any other help you can enlist. Someone who has been flat chested all her life will probably have figured a lot of this out. This can be really fun and exciting. - Claire
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I congratulate all of you on your decision!!!! I am 4 mos out on my reconstruction and I'm going through physical therapy trying to stretch scar tissue and regain strength in my arms (body). Besides that, now I'm finding out that my "what was suppose to be perky replacements" are being attacked by scar tissue on my radiated side.
Through all of this, I was trying to decide "to have or NOT to have". Everyone said "you've gone this far, you might as well finish" and "they can always be removed". Well at 40 something and 2 kids kinda out of the house (never gone long...LOL), one at college and my husband of 25 yrs saying that he really doesn't care, if they have to cut, they are GONE!!!!!! I mean, I went from a DD to a A-B, what's another notch down??? I look pretty flat anyways and probably would feel better without the tug of war my muscles are having on each other! TMI, but if you flex your muscles, they (the implants) disappear.
Enough complaining!!! I've been wearing a tank top (Walmart $3.88) and a shirt over it. Plastic surgeon said no underwires or push ups (they don't make much else) because there is nothing to push up and they are NOT perky!!! BIG LIE, the implants are like wet noodles once they are in...LOL
YES, I did need a whole new waredrobe just in time for clearance sales, BUT I did save all my sizes from 8-12 just in case I gain all my weight back.
In life, if you are given lemons, just add sugar!!!
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Thank you for the boscov's link! yes, I can see where these tops would work.
As i can, I am trying to buy things that look better, but I am often left with plain tight fitting tops, because that is what I had. Pullovers that mold my figure. I feel horrible in them. For the first time I am thinking maybe 3 of those boscovv's tops wearing them all the time would be better than a bunch of clothes I look terrible in. I feel flat and unattractive, my husband is retired and I feel badly around the house.
I did get my hair cut short and it feels fabulous! I am slowly finding my way......
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Crystalphm, I've found I can still wear my form fitting T shirts, with no one being the wiser as long as I loop a scarf on over the top. I already had some scarves and I've bought several more. The good thing is that one scarf can go with several tops so I was able to alternate the ones I already had as I gradually bought more.
I'm almost six years out from bilateral mastectomies.
I'm glad you're happy with your new hair cut. I found I like short hair too.
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Ok, how to loop a scarf? just loop it loose so it comes down across the missing breast places?
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"I will leave you with an exercise. Try to imagine a stylish woman with short hair, a cute top over a silk cami and with nicely-fitted trousers and a dazzling smile. That is YOU in six months time."
That's a fantastic image, Claire!
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crystalphm - IMO the Boscovs site has lovely One World tops but still expensive unless they are running a sale. Compare also to EBAY prices and another similar brand named Sublimation.
Also some of these tops have a deep V front which fits as large (I'm small breasts). So I'd go for a higher neck option and love the flutter or wider sleeve options as more flattering. Have fun with the prints and drape of the material - - very colorful and flattering.
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Wow! There are so many wonderful replies to my inquiry. Thank you, one and all.
And a special thank you to Claire in Seattle. Your post, and especially the closing " exercise" brought tears to my eyes. I think I've been so busy mourning the loss of my breasts and my pre-BC body... there hasn't been the mental/emotional space to actually picture myself feeling and looking good. Of course, neither Taxol nor being bald helps promote feelings of fabulousness , but you are absolutely right when you suggest that approaching it with an open mind and the company of good friends will make a big difference. A little pre-shopping glass of wine would probably be nice, too. Again, thank you for the kind and encouraging words. I needed to hear them more than you know.
I hope folks keep posting ideas and examples that have worked for them. On that note I found some cute sleeveless shirts at --wait for it--Hanna Andersson, of all places. Nice fabric, a little drapey thing in the front, and arm holes are high enough. Sold!
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cp418, perfect! Your link has so many nice examples of ways to use a scarf.
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I couldn't have recon--the www.breastfree.org site also has stories and tips. Lots of good suggestions upthread!
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