TN Poor Prognosis survivors
I was wondering how many of you have been given a poor prognosis at the time of diagnosis. My pathology report says "unfavorable group". So I would like to hear from people that are in the same group and still alive.
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Hi Dalia,
I was diagnosed in 2002, my doc at the time looked at me and said "this is serious". I had a big tumor, 2 nodes positive and grade 3 triple neg. DId lumpectomy, chemo and then rads. I was fine for 8 years until I had a new primary last year. (Please don't let that scare you , I am brca pos and didn't know it at the time).
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Dalia,
I just read your bio, we were diagnosed the same month! Well, my second time around! I am just now doing radiation. Sounds like you are finished with rads?
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Hi Dalia. I just read your biography and our BC diagnostic is somewhat the same. I was diagnosed in august 2010 at the age of 37. I had 3 tumors in my right breast (4.5cm-2.5cm-1.5cm) and 2 positive nodes. When I found my lump in june, it was just 2.5cm but grew very fast after that to 4.5cm before starting chemo in the 1rst week of september. I too had a good response to chemo (4 DD AC + 12 weekly Taxol) but not a complete one. At surgery, last february, (right mastectomy and 7 nodes out) , there was still a bit of active cancer in my breast and in 1 node. My doctor didn't want to give me anymore chemo, said I didn't need anymore. But to this day, I feel I should have had more after surgery. So went straight to radiation. Did 5 weeks of rads. My doctor wasn't all doom and gloom about my cancer being triple negative so that gave me a little bit of reassurance at the time.I am doing fine for now but like many,I am scared too of this beast coming back. I have a 6 years old son that I want to see grow up. Take good care.
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Dalia:
Please join the "Calling all TN's" thread and get a whole lot of heaping support that you so sorely need from all of us over there. While this is not the cancer any of us would have chosen while we were blindfolded and stuck our hand into the bag to pick our "prize," many many people survive this disease and go on to live out their lives. Some of are not so lucky, and it appears to run through some bodies like a run-away train. We do not have as many meds to keep the cancer at bay as the hormone positive gals have, but even with being hormone positive, there are still many women that can't keep that cancer at bay either. I truly believe it's all just a crapshoot from diagnose on. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to either of the breast cancers, whether you are tn or hormone positive. It all sucks, big time.
Please, please never give up hope. Your poor prognosis was a bad choice of wording by your doc, it certainly does not mean that you are doomed. You need to be where you can be supported and have any and all questions answered. Please join the thread. Also, read Noni's thread on surviving 26 years - it will uplift your spirits considerably.
Hugs,
Linda
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I'm not sure what would be meant by "unfavorable group" unless it was in reference to being TN. But please know the vast majority of TN woman are successfully treated and go on living their lives. Unfortunately, many of them don't visit here anymore, so you won't hear from them.... and conversely, you will hear from many women who have recurred because they are on these boards for support.
Linda's right, please join us over on the "Calling all TNs" thread because there are many of us there who continue to post long after our diagnoses.
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Hi everyone, thank you all for your input. Yes, I finished radiation back in December and even though I was happy when it was finally over, I started getting scared and worried at the same time, I feel unprotected, I guess we all feel like that after finishing treatment.
Do you ever blame yourselves about getting cancer? I do sometimes, I think my bad choices of food and not exercising at all must have been the reasons I got it.
On the positive side I want to tell you guys that I got married last week, he's a sweet, caring loving man that supported me thru my cancer treatment, he was the one that shaved my head when my hair started falling off, took me to chemo treatments, cleaned my bloody draining tubes after mastectomy, he saw me cry at night when I was feeling really sick, took me to radiation and basically saw me in the worst shape that I had ever been in. I met him about 12 years ago and dated him, broke up with him and broke his heart...but you never know what the future holds, who would've thought that after so many years we would find each other and get married? Anyway, to all those women that wonder if they will find love after cancer, the answer is YES!
So, I wish I can live a long life to see my children grow up and spend many years with my new handsome, smart and hardworking husband. -
Congratulations, Dahlia! You sound very happy and that is wonderful.
Sometimes I blame myself, but the great risk factor, as my gyn recently put it, is having breasts. I used to exercise 4-5 days a week strenously for over 20 years and didn't for about 4-5 years before diagnosis - I also didn't do self exams as frequently as I wish I had. I have a dim memory of feeling some tiny little lump a few months before I found mine but I had had a fibroadenoma that the breast surgeon watched for several months and I thought it was another one. I wonder now if it was my tumor at a low stage I. But hindsight is 20/20 and there isn't anything I can do about it now.
I'm exercising now, and trying to reduce stress. I have also cut most sugar from my diet, but still have trouble with the fat content at times. I eat too many pizzas when I work late because it is the only place that delivers. But I get low cheese and never eat meat, so I guess that helps.
Diagnosis: 2/5/2011, IDC, 2cm, Stage II, Grade 3, 2/16 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- -
Thanks Christina. Have you tried juicing? I try to drink a glass of organic spinach or carrot juice right before going to sleep, I also take my vitamin D3 with the juice ...carrot juice makes me very sleepy, I guess because is naturally sweet and that sugar hits me and knocks me down...I sleep like a baby.
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Dalia, I was diagnosed with Triple Neg Breast cancer 5 years ago this month. At the time of my diagnosis, my tumor was 3.5 cm and there was 1 lymphnode suspect. Within 2 weeks, my tumor had grown to 7 cm and my lymph nodes were loaded... in other words, my tumor had more than doubled it's size in 2 weeks. Obviously, I had very aggressive cancer. Over my course of treatment, my oncologist became a close friend with my husband, but he kept his distance from me. When I hit the 3 year mark past treatment, my doc shared his insights with my husband. He said that he avoided having a personal relationship with me as he was certain that I would be dead within 2 years. I'm glad he didn't tell us that to begin with, I might have given up.
It's 5 years later. I'm still alive and I made a promise to myself that if I made it to this point, I would go on the blogs and help shore other women up. Best wishes, I'll say a prayer for you.
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just this morning I was visiting a website called Never Surrender. There is a lot of very good information for TN BC people there. It used to be that TN was a sh...y dx. There is much, much that can be done.
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Thank you LydiaT for replying to my post...I loved reading what you wrote, it keeps my hopes up. Sometimes I feel like I am such a weak woman, always thinking about cancer, I know everybody says I should LIVE and not to worry but it is hard when I see my pathology report and all it says is bad things about this damn cancer. BUT meeting persons like you makes me think that I might survive after all and I feel happy.
Kayfh, I will look up the website you mentioned. Thank you!
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Dalia, I was 37, grade 3' stage 2b. I am still here and it will be 7 years next month (knock wood). Hang in there. No one knows for sure what the future holds... I haven't stopped worrying that it will come back, but am comforted in knowing I did all that was offered to me to treat it. If I can offer any advice it is to try and stay active. Exercise has shown to decrease risk of recurrance. Just clear with your MD if you haven't been active up to this point. Hang in there.
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Dalia,
My pathology report also stated unfavorable for the triple negative staus. The first thing my oncologist said was it was good, that chemo usually knocks it out. Alas, not for long for me. However, I am still here 4 1/2 years later and am looking forward to seeing my children graduate and go to college... Whenever someone asks if I am a survivor my daughter gets the you're so stupid look on her face at them.
Congratulations on your marriage. many anniversaries to you!!
Pam
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You should tell us more about the sentence before and after the "unfavorable group". Did they just mean it is unfavorable to be triple negative? We respond better to chemo than do the other breast cancers.
I had at least 5 posstivie nodes but maybe many more (I did chemo before surgery and it wiped out all but 1 left node so no way to know how many were possitive before that). Chemo is your very best friend. I, believe it or not, have fond memories of chemo. It knew it was saving my life. I am now 4 years, 1 month since diagnosis....so far no sign of return. I pray to God to keep it that way.
Meg
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Did htey only give you taxotere and carboplatin? Can you take more chemo? For me A/C wiped my tumor out and then I had taxol AND after surgery I had taxotere and carboplatin. I credit my life to all the chemo. Can they give you more now instead of doing nothing and waiting? Are people not taking A/C anymore? My very feelable tumor went flat after just 2 rounds of A/C and then was invisible on the scan after 4 A/C. The taxol was just to do microscopic clean up.
One thing I know for sure, we are not all alike. There are sub-groups within triple negatives...what if you are like me and your cancer is squashed by A/C? I'm not perfectly up to date since it's been 4 years but my oncologist let me have more chemo after surgery for just one spec of cancer left in one node. I thank God she did. (also I had taxol and taxotere...if one works ...often its cousin drug will work too)....but for me it was AC that kicked the most A$$
Hugs to you sister.
Meg
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Meggy..I had the AC also (plus 4 taxol)..all dose dense...I know AC can have some SE's in the future..but I'm sure glad I had it...I want a future!
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I did have 4 rounds double dose of Taxotere and Cisplatin before surgery, right before surgery I had a mammogram done and it did not show any lumps on my breast so Onco saw the results and told me that I had an extreme reaction to chemo and he gave me 2 more doses of chemo, but just Carboplatin, so I went on to surgery, after MX they found cancer cells in 3 lymph nodes, and cancer was still in the breast, 1.4 cms ...on a positive note the cancer on my lymph nodes was encapsuled, which means it wasn't on my skin tissue surrounding the nodes. I had 2 more rounds of double dose Cisplatin and Taxotere and finished treatment after radiation.
I have no idea why Oncologist and Radiologist have told me I have 40% of chances of recurrence, it seems high to me, I know that it is a very aggressive type of cancer grade 3, scale 10 of 10 if that makes any sense. -
Titan, I feel the same way...it seems like some oncologist are not using A/C....with the normal amount of 4 doses...240 whatever the measurement is I am told by Stanford's cardiologist that heart trouble is not normal. It is part of the cure...I am so convinced...at least with me.
There's that line in the bucket list.....the guys is throwing up in the toilet on chemo (which isn't necessary...get good anti-nausea drugs ladies) and he say's "right now some lucky bastard is having a heart attack."
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Lydia, thank you for sharing that.....OMG.....it takes so much strength but some how we find it.
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Meggy, I had ac twice! 4 trestments in 2003 and 6 in 2011. I am sure having it the second time is what brought me to ned. They monitored my heart during treatment and so far all is good, although I do know it can come later. My doc says I am under the lifetime limit, but I think he pushed it a bit, but I think it was necessary in my case. I'm a fan of ac!
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I am a fan of Ac as well! I had my Taxol first and it shrunk my tumor to half the size, but the AC took care of the rest of it - except 6mm which was on its way out according to the pathologist - and it obliterated the cancer that they knew was in at least two of my nodes - all came back negative at the time of my surgery. Yes, a HUGE fan of AC here!
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I went to 2 oncologists and chose mine because he was going to do TAC versus TC. My onc feels my tumor mutated in response to the TAC and became 5-10% ER +. I don't really know if taking the tamoxifen will help me but I am on it and 2/3 oncologists think it is beneficial for me but I'm glad I had the TAC because I feel the A is what mutated the tumor. I was told due to having 2 positive nodes and 2 cm of tumor left that I had a 50% chance of recurrence. For that reason I did additional chemo after the surgery in a clinical trial.
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