January 2012 chemo

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  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited March 2012

    Karen - Glad you had a nice weekend!  we certainly deserve a little light in our days!!

    I finished my 8th treatment (was taxol/herceptin) now abraxane herceptin.  They tell me it is cumalative, but some weeks I am fine and some I feel like I have been hit by truck.  I have had that hit by truck feeling for about 10 days now.  Managed to take my boy on bike ride on this beautiful trail along ocean yesterday.  Thought the hills were going to kill me but sitting on the bluffs in the bright sunshine listening to waves crashing was all worth it (:

    Nurse just called me to say my potassium levels are sky high (they are not sure if this is acurate) so I am off for blood test (maybe this is why I am so shitty)

    also lots of hair coming out (thought I dodged that bullet ) which makes me cry a lot.

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited March 2012

    Lumpynme - it was wonderful in Northern Ohio on Sunday and sounds like it will be for rest of week after gloom today.  Yippee.  Felt like I was coming back to life, too.  I even raked a garden bed!  Wow, a few weeks ago during A/C, never thought I would ever have the energy to do that again!  What a gift!  I will try and never complain about raking garden beds again!

    Halos- I have one too, but never wore it yet.  I think summer may be a better time for it, too.  I always wear wigs out, but think I am going to change that up.  Getting tired of that feeling, too.  If wearing a scarf or turban is a neon sign flashing "chemo" I don't care any more!!  

    I find I have certainly gotten more bold during all of this stuff - anyone else???  I never quite know what will come out of my mouth next!

  • FLDREAMER
    FLDREAMER Member Posts: 166
    edited March 2012
    Speaking of being bold:  Several weeks ago when I cried so about the hair coming off, I never dreamed I'd be as bold as I am now.   I absolutely hate my wigs.  I've loosened them as much as possible and they still feel like a rubber band around my head.  So, I start off the day to work wearing them.....And, today, midway thru the day, I just took it off.  Totally bald, wore a really nice baseball style cap and later on, took it off and just sat there working ....   bald!   (I had asked boss if he cared---like it would matter--and he said no.   Now, I do work in an internal office in the middle of a factory.  So I don't see the public or anything.  But, I'm all about comfort now.  But I must admit I wear makeup regularly now (never used to) and I always wear nice earrings.  It's about how I feel, not anyone else.
  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited March 2012

    I'm getting worried.  My last AC was almost 3 weeks ago and I'm still very tired.  Have the face neuropathy. weepy eyes and absolutely no appetite.  Deciding what to eat is a nightmare.

    I'm due to start Taxol tomorrow.  If that makes me more tired I'm in reat trouble.

    Perhaps my bloodwork will show something tomorrow.

    Peggy 

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited March 2012

    So sorry to hear the fatigue has lingered Peggy :-(



    My MO has approved me taking vit B during Taxol - this can help with fatigue and neuropathy - maybe worth asking your MO if you haven't already?



    I have my first Taxol on Friday and am not looking forward to it. Also starting herceptin at the same time.



    Jenn

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited March 2012

    Go Karen!  I'm not at that point yet, but feel like its coming.  On my way to work last week I had to check if I put my wig on.  I leave before 7am and am not fully awake, so as I drive I take inventory - did I close the garage door, turn out the lights, grab my cell phone, get fully dressed, etc.  Now I have to add -did I put my wig on. I run around the house without it, usually bald, so I could imagine forgetting it.  I imagine that I will dump the wig as the weather gets hot. 

    Peggy, I'm so sorry you are feeling so fatigued.  I found that many of the AC SEs slowly went away.  My eyes are much better and I have no stomach issues.  My skin feels better as well. Even though I am more fatigued and my body aches a bit, I just feel better overall.  Hopefully you will too!

    I did learn a big lesson - stay away from people who are sick!  One of my students had a terrible cold with a fever a few weeks ago.  She is in two of my classes.  I did not protect myself and ended up with the same cold.  This led to an overnight hospitalization this weekend because I had a high fever and a cough.  Initially, they said I pneumonia which was later debated.  It was difficult to determine which of my complaints were due to taxol and which were caused by the virus.  Because they thought I had pneumonia, I was pumped full of antibiotics. Now I think I might now have thrush. My tongue feels weird.  I'll have to call the mo's office today.

  • FLDREAMER
    FLDREAMER Member Posts: 166
    edited March 2012

    Peggy:   So sorry for all the SE's you're having. I really hope they ease up soon.   I felt that overwhelming fatiuge after my last AC and the lost of appetite.  It just finally went away.  So I can certainly sympathize with you.  Hope your bloodwork indicates something you can treat...like a vitamin you should take or something.   Will they really start the Taxol when you've been feeling that way?  I know you don't want to delay but on the other hand...?

    Janet:  I had to laugh at your 'checklist'.  I leave home before 6:30am and am not sure I'm even fully dressed, let alone the rest of the list.   Sorry to hear of the cold and ensuing problems.  Hope they are gone soon.   

    Thinking of all of you today. 

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2012
    Peggy:  I'm sorry you're still feeling so awful after your last AC.  My last (4th) was two weeks ago, and I'm just now starting to feel better - but still not good.  I didn't get out of bed two days ago - I just couldn't do it.  Yesterday was a good day, I think today is a good day, but I can't guarantee tomorrow.  This has been the worst recovery from a tx so far.  My MO keeps reminding me of the cumulative effects of these tx's, and I think that's what we're experiencing.  I was told it would take 3-4 weeks for the remainder of the AC to be gone from my body, so hopefully you're on the way towards that recovery. 
  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2012

    Karen:  I'm so inspired by you!  I have not yet worn a wig; I've been wearing Beaubeaus and other scarves, and loving them - except I just hate them, too.  We went to dinner at a friends' house the other night and I announced I was "going topless" and took off my hat - and they loved it!  That's as public as I've been able to go - yet.  The weather here in mid-Michigan is going to hit the 70's this week (seriously - we're about three months ahead of schedule weather-wise) and I'm thinking the garden need some tending, and my head needs some sun, so.......we'll see what the neighbors think!

    The birds are making nests here; we saved my hair after I shaved my head and put it in a basket, and that basket is going outside today.  Will be interesting to see how much of it is used to cradle baby birds!

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited March 2012

    Nancy - What a wonderful idea of putting your hair out for the birds!!! I might consider it.

    Peggy - Sorry to hear you're still dealing with the AC SEs. I hope the T isn't as hard on you. You deserve a break.

    Jane - Staying away from sick people can be so hard, even when it's on your priority list. I hope you don't have thrush, and that you're otherwise recovering. Take it easy.

    FLDreamer - It's great that you've found that comfort level, and that, while it may not matter, the people around you get it and support you. I sort of wish I could go bald - I never shaved my hair all the way, so I have lots of wisps of hair that I never lost and would NOT shave now, as they'll be my recovery base, but there's no way I'd feel comfortable out in public this way. Bald, yes, sprout garden, no.

    I'm coming out of the #5 slump. Mostly fatigue. The past three days pretty much just happened without me, though I was up and about, just not doing much beyond contemplating meal options, emails (my only level of productivity during these down periods) and a little reading. I think my taste is planning to desert me this time, though. I've lucked out previously with just a few exceptions. But I think I'll be able to pull myself together to get back to work. 

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited March 2012

    Hi everyone,

    so exhausted to wtite a lot but read everyone's post and in nutshell sorry for all of our's side effects. I have my AC #4 thursday and I am scared and emotional . please tell me it will be easy. Any one please.

    Thanks

    Bela

    PS sorry for being selfish 

  • Lumpynme
    Lumpynme Member Posts: 747
    edited March 2012

    peggy-my MO told me yesterday that hte chemo can come out thtru tears-could that be the weepy eyes you are having? i am experiencing it now

  • Lumpynme
    Lumpynme Member Posts: 747
    edited March 2012

    bela...not being selfish-being honest!!!!!!!!! you are two weeks ahead of me so i can't say anything about #4-just sending a hug!

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited March 2012

    Lumpy perhaps but I think it is because they are actually dryer than normal and my body is overcompensating.

    Fldreamr the doc said they would start 'unless something turns up in the bloodwork"

    Thanks gals for the support.  I did go into Jerusalem for my grandaughters 4yr. birthday party at her nursery school.  Then I walked a bit to do some shopping and ate lunch at my favorite restaurant.  The food actually looked and tasted good but I couldn't finish all of it.

     I had to keep stopping to rest but made it home in time for a nap.

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited March 2012

    Thanks Lumpynme,

    I will definately let you know how mine goes. Taking lots of metamucil and eating soft foods and trying not to frick out.

    Thanks

    Bela 

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2012

    Bela:  Nothing wrong with wanting to know.  You're not selfish, you're looking for hope!

    My 4th AC treatment was easy - and exciting, in some ways, because I knew I was done!  The first few days were great, but I did completely crash on Day 6 - never got out of bed.  Felt great the next few days, then crashed again on Day 11 - never got out of bed.  SEs were worse this time than before, but only because i've been blessed with minimal SEs so far (except for the exhaustion - that's my worst).  Multiple mouth sores from Day 3 that are just now starting to heal; and hand/foot syndrome, but only on my left hand, starting Day 3 (I have a theory about how it happened, so I suggest you simply be very gentle with your hands).  

    As of today (Day 13) I'm feeling incredibly good.  Baked a blueberry pie this morning, two loaves of babka (chocolate bread), and a dozen blueberry/lemon muffins.  Going out to run some errands, and then making dinner.  I can honestly say I feel "normal" right now.

    Just think, Bela - your last AC treatment is in two days - then no more!!!  That's something to be celebrated!  You might have a hard time - but you might not!  I've learned that I cannot predict how well - or not-well - I'm going to do with any given treatment.  Every day is a good day; some days are just better than others.

    I've got my first Taxol on Thursday, so we can hold each other's hands through tx.  In fact, since I have to sit there for at least 4 hours I'll be taking my computer so I'll pop in and say hello.

    Good luck, Bela - you're almost done!

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited March 2012

    NancyHB,

    Thanks for the pass :) I do feel bad that i rely on you guys . Also, I didn't understand what do you mean by be gentle with your hands?

    I will be here I am not doing Taxol since I am allergic to it. your cancer sounds similiar to mine and I was wondering why Taxol?

    Yes, it will last thats celebration for sure.

    Thanks

    Bela

    PS constipation? 

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited March 2012

    I wanted to know if anyone who is doing AC has trouble swollowing? I have pain in throat and trouble with that.

    Thanks

    Bela 

  • miniwheat
    miniwheat Member Posts: 52
    edited March 2012

    Hello all!  I've read all your post and hug you all!  I had a very rough time with my last treatment, was scheduled for a treatment yesterday but blood test shows liver enzymes are elevated.  Treatment has be rescheduled for next Monday. 

    In a nutshell, the doctor says that I am experiencing severe side effects from and gave me the option to not take the third and last treatment of what they call 5 FU and skip to the taxotere.  He says that it would be almost as effective but cannot provide any medical proof.  After serious consideration, I've decided to carry on with the original plan...  I basically told the doc, if I survived it twice, I'll survive it once more.  Not looking forward to it but I owe it to myself to get the best treatment possible. (even if it's a nightmare for two weeks, this is my health we're talking about)

    Any ideas on this liver enzymes thing?   Hang in there you guys, every day that goes by is one day closer to feeling better again : ) xo

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited March 2012

    Whiner alert - I haven't posted in a while because things around here have, well....sucked. My last A/C was brutal!! It took me almost 12 days to recover. Then I had 2 descent days before my first Taxol. But in the meantime, the stomach bug hit our house and I had to stay away from and simultaneoulsy comfort my 11 year old. My WBC's crashed to below 1 again and DH had to work.

    Then my father-in-law had a heart attack (his 5th), so he's in the hospital with pneumonia and renal failure. My poor DH has to deal with the very real possibility of losing his dad on top of me being a mess.

    The Taxol has not been as easy as I thought - I had excrutiating bone and leg pain for 3 days. And, to top it all off, my sugar levels have been going up, up, up, so I had to see my PCP yesterday and now I have to check my sugar levels twice a day (I had gestational diabetes when I was pregnant with my first.) My PCP said that sometimes people that are predisposed to diabetes have run into trouble with the steroids. So, I have to watch what I eat -- which sucks, because I can't have Shamrock shakes anymore! Everything that I feel like eating (carbs) I've got to cut waaaay back on.

    Grrrrr....I'm angry. I only have 3 more treatments left and I'm sooooo ready for this to be over!!!

  • miniwheat
    miniwheat Member Posts: 52
    edited March 2012

    CharrB22:  So sorry you are having a rough go of it. 

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited March 2012

    miniwheat: I have just finished 3 x FEC and between my 2nd and 3rd one my liver enzymes shot up as well (GGT at about 185!). My MO was concerned enough to cut back my last treatment so that it was just FE (5-FU and epirubicin) without the cyclophosphamide which is the one that she said can cause the liver problems. She also had me go and get tested to make sure I didn't have underlying Hepatitis (I didn't thank goodness!).

    My next treatment is this Friday (start of 12 x Taxol weekly) and I'm heading in this afternoon to do my pre-treatment bloods and then have an appt with the MO tomorrow morning. Will let you know if my liver levels have come down...

    CharB22: sorry to hear you've had such a bad time. Everyone keeps talking about how "easy" Taxol is compared to the other treatments we've all been getting but I am really worried because the SEs actually from Taxol do sound worse to me than the ones I had with FEC. With FEC it was all temporary stuff like nausea, mouth problems, eyes watering etc. With Taxol it sounds like the problems are potentially long-term ie: neuropathy, bone pain and more likely to limit my ability to work over the next 12 weeks (I start Taxol/Herceptin on Friday this week). Has your PCP or MO given you anything or any suggestions for how to deal with the bone/joint pain?

    Jenn

  • miniwheat
    miniwheat Member Posts: 52
    edited March 2012

    Thank you Jenn, that is comforting.  I also am being tested for underlying Hepatitis and will have results on Monday.  Let me know how you make out.

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited March 2012

    Rachel - You are almost there!!!!!! I didn'y realize how far along you are in treatment.  I bet it feels good!  I wish I had left my hair a little longer when I shaved it!  Some of the longer stubble is hanging on.  Oh well, too late now

    BelaT - I know we are all different, but I found my 4th AC a little easier than #3.  I think Nancy is on to something - It was exciting.  I knew I would not be facing those big syringes again!  I found that Taxol is more manageable.  Yes, I am fatigued and I have aches and pains, but my gut feels so much better.  I don't feel that overall 'sick' feeling AC gave me.  Its hard to explain.  I have tx # 2 on Friday and am not too concerned.

     Peggy - My eyes were really a problem during my final 2 AC txs.  That has since cleared up.  I'm not nearly as dry any more.  Even my sinuses feel better.  I'm glad you were able to get out and about.  I miss toddler birthday parties!  Mine are all grown up and I have no grandbabies yet.   4yrs old!  What a wonderful age!

    Nancy - WOW!  You were busy baking!  Everything sounds so good!  Blueberries are my favorite.

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited March 2012

    Miniwheat - I'm sorry you are having a tough time.  I keep thinking 'Just one day closer'.  I hope this treatment is better!

    CharB22 - Whine away!  It sounds like you really deserve to let a little out! Your SEs sound awful!  In addition, the stomach bug and FIL's heart attack just compound things.  Your poor husband!  He has enough to deal with right now.  Did you get a neulasta shot after the taxol?  Could that explain some of the pain?  My MO said o take pain pills if the pain was bad.  So far I haven't needed to. Tylenol took care of the pain.  What?  No Shamrock Shakes????  Not okay!  I worked for McDonalds in the late '70s when they introduced the Shamrock Shakes.  I loved them then and I love them now. 

    Jenn - good luck with starting your taxol tx.  Its was my understanding the the 12 weekly txs compared to 4 biweekly tx is easier to handle and has less side effects.  Maybe that will be the case for you and you will sail along with no problems.  Well, I''l hope the best for you!

    Has anyone on taxol notice that their cravings have gone away?  Even though my mouth is fine and I'm not having that 'metal mouth' taste, I just don't want to eat.  I don't feel sick or repulsed by food, I just don't have an appetite.  I'm a little worried since I'm not supposed to lose weight right now (even though I need to lose about 50lbs eventually).

  • Seagrover
    Seagrover Member Posts: 46
    edited March 2012

    Anyone taken neupogen? I'm missing my treatment again tomorrow due to low white count. Starting 4 days of neupogen tomorrow.

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited March 2012

    Is anyone else finding themselves starting to feel like a CANCER SURVIVOR instead of a Cancer Patient?

    Today was #3 Taxol of 12 weekly Taxols.  For the first time, I really started feeling like

    a survivor instead of a cancer patient with alot of side effects and didn't really care what

    happened cause I was so sick!

    This is a wonderful and new feeling for me! 

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited March 2012

    Jenn I have the no appetite thing.  

    Seagrover they gave me neupogen when I was in the hospital with low blood counts.  I would get a terrible backache about 3 hours after the injection but a large dose of Tyenol would knock it down.

    Peggy 

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited March 2012

    Can you all cross your fingers for me and my MO appt tomorrow. Over the past week or so I have had increasing pain in my lumpectomy breast. Not where my orinpginal lump was (lower breast) but higher up, and it seems lumpy. The pain is now pretty constant and panadol didn't "cover" it this morning.



    I'm thinking either local recurrance already or trunkal LE (I have no idea what that would feel like). So, a serious conversation is bound to happen tomorrow :-(



    Jenn

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited March 2012

    Jenn - I've got my fingers, toes, and anything else I can cross, crossed for you!  I know how scary every bump and pain is these days.

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