January 2012 chemo

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  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited March 2012

    Just checking in this morning to followup qfter first taxol tx.  Even though I had a reaction to this first tx, I feel strangely relaxed about the next try.  The reaction was so controlled and I felt very well cared for.  The infusion nurse told me beforehand that she has seen people react to this tx and felt confident that they could handle any outcome.  I really wasn't frightened when I saw their response to my reaction.  Once the meds were increased, I had no discomfort or any weird feeling.  However, I did have the steroid rush and needed  atavan to sleep.  I woke up around three with a hot flash.  Got up for a bit, but was able to go back to sleep for a few hours.

    I'm afraid to jinx anything, so I won't sound too positive.  But I feel great today!  I actually wanted coffee this morning.  I haven't been able to stomach coffee since my first AC tx.  I ate a big breakfast (steroids?) and feel really good.  I know that the SEs might not be felt for a few days so we will see.  The one thing that I haven't felt is that 'gut sick' feeling that followed each AC tx.

    So, maybe this will be doable!  I'll keep you up to date if anything changes.

  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited March 2012

    Had my infusion a day early on Wednesday (barely got by with blood count- a little lower no infusion)

    and went to NYC to professional conference.  Went to 3 art museums, restaurants, lectures ect.

    Today I am exhausted but all in all pretty good.  Thought that might make the ladies about to start taxol feel better.  I have been doing every week for 7 weeks and although I have been switched to abraxane (which makes it easier -less steroids -quicker infusion)  I have been holding up pretty well.

    I hear you all about the dry skin!!  getting a very itchy rash on hand too!  As far as neuropathy goes I have had one hour of it in right hand (weird huh?)  I do seem to be getting skin tears on hands very easy (and slow to heal)  anyone else?

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited March 2012

    Taxol/Herceptin first infusion

    Had my first infusion of Taxol/Herceptin on Feb 28th.  Didn't have any allergic reactions and infusion was uneventful.  I did put my fingertips in ice to prevent nails from later falling off or being damaged.  Oncologist says it works.  Going to do toes next week.

    For me other than some minor Neuropathy for the first 2 days, #1 Taxol has been 80% better than A/C.  I am back to eating "normal" food, I'm not tired to take naps, but did sleep 10 hrs last night.  I almost feel like I am off chemo it is that good as I had such a rough time on A/C.  I hope this lasts.  I was able to go shopping 3 times since then.  Before I couldn't even think about going to a store. 

    I am taking Claritin as Oncologist said they don't really know why it works, but it helps.  So I started taking it.    I do have alot of sinus drippage, mucusitis, and nose bleeds, but I had that on A/C too.  It's annoying but not debilitating like those other horrible A/C  SEs.

    I sure hope it lasts!!  Good luck to all of you who are beginning Taxol soon!

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited March 2012

    Thanks for the post Diane. I know there are a few of us starting Taxol next week. Good to hear about those with little or no SE's. Hope that continues for you!

    I am goint to try icing (I bought frozen peas) my hands during infusion. I'll do just about anything to not have my finger/toe nails affected.Smile

    Brooke

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited March 2012

    I just got home from 3.5 days in the hospital.  A first this time was WBC and Red were low.  I had two 'bags' of whole blood.  14 needle sticks later I don't have a vein left that they can use I think.  I talk to my onc. on Tuesday and I think I see a port in my future.  I will try to catch up on the posts tomorrow after, hopefully, a good nights sleep in my own bed.

    Peggy 

    PS I missposted my grandson's diagnosis.  It is type 1 diabetes.  The kind that needs insulin.  He is home from hospital and so far no major problems with the treatment plan. 

  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited March 2012

    I am quite a bit behind everyone since I started later in Jan.    I have AC #4 tomorrow.  So far, my worst SE is keeping ahead of constipation, sleeplessness, and some fatigue days 4-6.   I really think that the antidepressent has helped my attitude and fatigue.   I HATE not being able to sleep and the restless leg syndrome the first 4 days after infusion. I think it must be the steroids but don't know if I can do without steriods either.  Even Ativan doesn't help sleep.   It is interesting and helpful hearing how others are handling the taxol.  I am going to have the DD taxol every 2 weeks after the AC.

     For my skin, I have started using L'Bri products.   A friend of my sister actually donated some to me. My sister has been using it for years and used it during her cancer/radiation treatments when she had BC 5 years ago.   My skin has never been so clear and soft and it is helping to lessen my scar.   Their products are all natural, non-cancerous ingredients, not tested on animals, and based on aloe vera as the base which I know has soothing, anti-inflamatory properties.  It is pricey but I have found that just a little dot of it goes a long way so it seems worth it.  You can check out their products and ingredients at lbri.com    If interested in purchasing something, you can email me privately and I can put you in touch with someone as you have to get it through a consultant.

  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited March 2012

    Brooke - Never even heard about the fingernail toe thing and I am 7 infusions in!!  I had more taxol SE in the beginning....it is almost like my body had gotten use to it.  Certainly everyone is different

    I hope all of you girls starting taxol have an easier time than ac!!  xoxo

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited March 2012

    Kitchella:  My goodness you have been through a rough time to put it mildly. I hope your recovery at home is smooth. Praying things turn better from here on out.

    Cat: For me #4 was a little easier. That is what I hope for you. As for the dreaded steroids. I HATED them with every fiber in me. I only had the IV steroid for tx's 3 & 4. Talked with my onc and he said I could try without the oral steroids. Made it so much better for me. We'll see what he'll let me do for Taxol. 

    Diane: I am so happy to hear there have been no problems with your nails. I have heard that the nails can take a beating on Taxol. Gives me hope starting next week.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2012

    Thanks to all of you who are now doing Taxol, and sharing your stories.  It's so helpful to know that good days are coming!  :-)

    Is anyone here doing dose-dense Taxol?  I'm getting a little nervous that perhaps I won't be able to experience the enjoyment of "lesser SE" because my tx will be twice the dose, every-other week.  Just wondering if anyone else is in the same boat with me, or am I sinking on my own?!

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited March 2012

    Nancy - I'm doing the dose dense taxol every two weeks.  Had my first tx on Friday.  Other than a small reaction 3 minutes into the infusion, everything went ok.  It was a very long day though!  The infusion took 4 hrs.  Due to the reaction, my steroids and benedryl were doubled.  This left my flying Friday night.  I needed a little chemical help to sleep.  Saturday was good.  I didn't have that gut sick feeling that AC gave me.  Today I'm dragging a bit, possibly from the steroid crash.  No nausea or heartburn.  MO said I might feel flu-like symptoms on days 3 and 4.  So far nothing.

    I had the neulasta shot yesterday.  Will have it next time too since I had a problem with wbc after my 4th AC.

  • NCbeachgal
    NCbeachgal Member Posts: 181
    edited March 2012

    NancyHB-I start DD Taxol on Tuesday. 4 treatments every other week. I also begin Herceptin as well. Not looking forward to a 5 1/2 hour infusion. I'm terrified by the possible allergic reaction. I'm trying to be strong but wow, I'm really nervous.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2012

    Janet and NCbeachbal - thanks for sharing.  I'm glad to know I'm not the only one.  I'm part of a clinical trial so if the dd doesn't work for me I have to leave the trial and go back to once-weekly tx's.  I'm kind of excited about only having to do 6 instead of 12 and would like to complete the trial (it provides 15 years of follow-up). 

    Janet, I find I can only sleep (right now) through the first week post-tx with Valium (no one seems to want to give me Ativan, oh well).  Ambien didn't work as well for me.  I hate the steroids more than anything in the world, but if it's going to keep me from, oh, I don't know, crashing during tx then I'll happily take them.  :-)  And I'll *gladly* give up the heartburn - omg I'm so tired of that.

    I'll be thinking about you, NCbeachgal, in your treatment on Tuesday.  Good luck!!  And yeah - whatever are we going to do for four hours in that chair?!  :-)  

    *hugs* to you all!

  • denjak
    denjak Member Posts: 36
    edited March 2012

    Just want to thank everyone for their posts. Heading for #1 Taxol tomorrow. Onc has me taking Benadryl, Tagament at 6pm tonight, midnight( how will I stay awake) and then at 6am....geeze its a lot of benadryl but I am hoping that the Taxol is better tolerated that AC...that stuff is the worst. but I am through with it!!  THANK YOU ALL.

  • NCbeachgal
    NCbeachgal Member Posts: 181
    edited March 2012

    Here I sit, since 8:30 am. So far taxol has been ok during the infusion. I took a decahedron last night (up since 3 am) and another this am. The infusion starred with more steroids, Tagamet, benedryl, then a 10 minute test dose. That went ok so started the 3 hour infusion. I finished that with zero excitement and am now waiting for the 90 minutes of herceptin to finish. The benedryl and or lack of sleep made me sleepy and I was able to take a brief nap. So far so good, just long.

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited March 2012

    denjak - Hope everything goes well tomorrow!  It sounds like they have you covered with the antihistamines!  It seems every MO has a different approach.  I took 5 (4mg) steroid pills  the night before and 5 right before the infusion. The benedryl was given (IV) as a premed, before the infusion and then again when I had the reaction.  Next tx they want me to double up on the steroids.  I guess the benedryl will be doubled as well.  Bring something to do, since the infusion can be long and boring.

    NCbeachgal - Sounds like everything went well!  Yay for no reaction!  Did you get 'restless legs' during the benedryl drip?  I was really uncomfortable for a short period of time.  I couldn't settle down and relax.  I felt like I needed to stretch all my muscles and crack my joints.

    Monday and today were difficult at work.  I didn't feel sick, but my muscels ached and I was very tired.  My boss told me to go home a little early today.  I was in slow motion all day.  However, this is way better than how I felt on AC.

  • riceandbean
    riceandbean Member Posts: 25
    edited March 2012

    Hello all.

    Hope you all are doing well.  Glad to hear some have moved on from the AC to Taxol and are tolerating it well.

     My wife's #3 AC tx is tomorrow.  Hoping and praying all goes well.  Started her "P" last night, so hope her blood counts are fine.  75% of the way there...and then 12 weeks of Taxol on the way to 6 weeks of rads.

    Nancy - Have you tried Cera Ve?  We use this for our son's dry skin issues and so far it is working wonders for my wife as well.  Fantastic stuff and not oily at all!

    Funny story to pass on:  Our 13 month old son saw his mom taking her wig on and off and now he keeps trying to pull his hair off just like momma.  She has sworn off changing her wig in front of him, just because he won't stop pulling on his hair whenever he sees her.  :)

    Keeping you all in our hearts and prayers.

    R

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited March 2012

    So I am geared up, aka nervous, but ready for Taxol #1 tomorrow. I've got my tea tree oil for my nails, frozen peas to ice fingers and toes during treatment, and a sleeping mask. Really hoping the benadryl knocks me out enough to take a nap because I probably won't sleep much tonight.

    riceandbean.. Good luck to your wife tomorrow. #3 was my most difficult but #4 was much better. Hoping she stays SE free or at least to a minimum.

    Denjak: Good luck to you too tomorrow!!

  • kenyohunt1
    kenyohunt1 Member Posts: 53
    edited March 2012

    Had Pet/CT scan yesterday won't get official in depth results until tomorrow but my Onc. did call to quickly tell me no progression and substantial improvement from initial scans. Will know more tomorrow, also having TCH treatment #5 tomorrow. Momof2 I have a very strong feeling that you are going to do very well. I hope everyone is as close to side effect free as possible. I may not post often but I read often and think of you all often.

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited March 2012

    Yay kenyohunt!!!!!!!!!!



    Momof2: good luck tomorrow. My first taxol is next week so will be watching for your review. Here in Australia they don't do so much pre-dosing of steroids/antihistamines. In fact they don't do any - just the stuff in the infusion before they start the taxol.



    Jenn

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited March 2012

    Good luck tomorrow Yolanda!! Absolutly thrilled for you about the improvment on your scans!! Will be thinking of you tomorrow as well.

    A great big {{HUG} for you!!

  • kenyohunt1
    kenyohunt1 Member Posts: 53
    edited March 2012

    Momof2

    I will be thinking of you tomorrow as well. How many treatments of taxol do you have? From all of the different post I have read the icing does seem to work. I didn't have any lifting of my nails but they have tuned colors deep purple about half way up the nail, this did not happen on my toenails. But I am on taxotere not taxol, they are in the same family though btw I did not ice so maybe better results with icing.

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited March 2012

    Finished #2 Taxol tonight.  Was uneventful thankfully.  Praying for all of you starting Taxol.

    I did the ice on fingernails and toenails.  I get some neuropathy the first couple of days, but last time it went away.  I hope it does this time as well.  All in all, it is 85% better than A/C!!!   I feel like I am starting to come back to life again.  Plus, my blood counts (all the major ones) were good.

    When that benadryl hits the bloodstream, wow!  I fight the sleep.  I don't want to miss anything! LOL!

    Prayers for all!    Denise        My blog:   http://denise4health.wordpress.com

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited March 2012

    I am scheduled to start Taxol/Her in a week assuming I'm totally recovered from my latest crash.  I'm worried about steroids because the ones I took for AC made my heart pound.  I will definitely tell the doc.  Benadryl also tends to make me jittery.

    Peggy 

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited March 2012

    Riceandbean -  AC#3 was probably my most difficult tx to date but manageable.  I can just imagine your poor son's confusion!  Poor baby!

    Momof2inME - Good luck with taxol!  So far, I'm pleasantly surprised how much better I feel on taxol than AC.  Now, don't get me wrong, there are SEs, but they are not as bad as those felt on AC.  I still feel a little achy 5 days out from tx.  I was exhausted yesterday and went to bed  early. Work was difficult but doable.  Keeping my fingers crossed that this is as bad as it gets.

    Denise - Thanks for sharing your blog!  The video was so moving!  Boy, do I hate roller coasters!  Hopefully taxol #2 is manageable! 

    Kenyohunt1 - Good news on the PET/CT scan! I havent been icing my fingers or toes.  I totally forgot to get prepared.  I hope I don't regret this!  So far, no issues, but it is early in treatment.

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited March 2012

    Janetanned - thanks for your kind words about the video posted on my blog.  It was amazingly well done by a Breast Cancer Survivor.    I think it describes the most accurate feelings of how I have felt on this BC journey, and I know you can relate.  Ladies, please watch.  It is called "The Wildest Ride on Earth".  But make sure you are somewhere where you can shed a few healing tears.  http://denise4health.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/breast-cancer-is-a-crazy-lonely-roller-coaster-ride/

    As for icing fingers/toes, I sat next to a gal in infusion whose nails were already turning dark, she started icing them, and it reversed, so it is not too late.

    Kitchenella:  I only am getting a steroid with the Taxol in an injection.  Didn't have to take any pills, thank God.  Made my heart pound too.  Had some palpitations last night, but already better.  So much better than A/C.

    Momof2:  Hope things went well for you!  Prayers!  Let us know!

     Riceandbeans:  your wife and I have very similar diagnosis and treatment, but I am Her2Neu+.

    I just completed #2 Taxol of 12 weekly Taxol then 6 weeks rads after 4 A/C.   #3 A/C was worst, #4 A/C mostly tired and not as bad as #3.  Alot of people seem to say that too.  Your 13 mo old sounds adorable.

    Prayers for all.  

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited March 2012

    hi guys, some what human again , thanks for all the advice

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2012

    Glad to see everyone's still around!  Wonderful to hear good news, kenyonhunt!  And glad that everyone's SEs seem to be okay, particularly with the new rounds of Taxol starting.  I'm hoping and praying for relief.

    Came home from work on Monday evening and slept on (mostly) and off (just a little) for 36 hours.  Had to literally crawl from the bathroom back to the bedroom at one point.  Felt much better today.  I now have blisters on my palms, and am discovering a couple on my feet.  My mouth is full of sores.  This is the first time I've ever had such awful SE's, but I am happy because it was after my last AC, so I won't have to go through this again.  I think it all just caught up with me.

    My husband bought me the coolest things the other day - disposable "toothbrushes" from the hospital pharmacy.  They're like little pink sponges on sucker sticks.  I put a little toothpaste on them and can use them all over my mouth, even on the areas with the sores.  Then I just toss them.  I think he paid 20 cents each.  I even keep a few with me in my pursue so, when my mouth has that awful metalic taste I can just brush a little and it helps it go away.  

    I'm curious, too - is anyone craving any odd/specific/different kinds of food?

    Nancy

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited March 2012

    I did have weird food craving on AC. Initially,  I seemed to really want protein.  For a while there I was eating hamburgers every night.  More recently, I've been craving chili.  I don't normally like spicy food, so for me this is unusual.  Since beginning taxol I haven't really been hungry.  I'm not sure why.  My stomach feels ok and the metal mouth feeling is gone.

  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited March 2012

    I had AC #4 today (yeah!!), with an exam by my MO beforehand. She found that the tumor is roughly the same size as when she examined it two weeks ago. She said 'we're good,' while all I could hear in my head was "It's not working, it's not working!!" Because there is clinical evidence that it has gotten at least a bit smaller since before treatment began,the MO is not particularly concerned. But because my breast was quite swollen from procedures when initially measured, its hard to know really if it has gotten smaller. I'm kind of terrified.



    I just wanted to write that out here to try to give it some perspective. I still have four taxol treatments to go. I think as a triple negative patient I'm fixated on every sign that I'm responsive to chemo, and devastated when those signs don't seem to be there. As my MO said today, 'if there's no change in the size of the tumor, it's not good.' I also have to keep in mind that the facts won't all be in until an ultrasound is done after chemo ends and the surgery reveals what's really going on in there.



    Deep breaths now and trying to stay positive and unafraid.

    Annie

  • AEM47
    AEM47 Member Posts: 297
    edited March 2012

    Gayle56 - can I ask what your white counts are that you can forego the neulasta shot.  Mine was at over 30000 on the last blood check 7 days ago.  I'm due for my 2nd TC tomorrow morning and I don't want that shot with counts like this.  I thought the point of the shot was to keep your WBC count within the normal range?

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