Early signs of Lymphedema
Could someone refer me to a link or site where I could find early signs for lymphedema? If there is an issue, I assume that figuring it out early would be helpful... I'd like to know what to avoid to make it worse, etc. I have been stepping up my exercise program and want to make sure I don't do anything that would have adverse effects. I have strange pain under my arm (not really severe, just strange & tingly) where my SNB scar is (there's a lump under the scar that they looked at with ultrasound and said it's scar tissue). My upper arm on that side looks slightly larger (though that is my dominant side) a bit "jiggly" and the other doesn't. Thanks, Jenifer
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Jenlee, I'm trying to think of a site that has the early signs in one place--they are heaviness, tightness, swelling, achiness,warmth tingling, numbness.
I saw a great list, and now I can't remember where I saw it.
I recently re-read the transcript of a podcast by Andrea Cheville on LE on the LBBC site, and she discussed it
http://www.lbbc.org/Event-Archive/2009-02-20-Lymphedema
We placed the most emphasis on lymphedema
in the arm because that's the most common site
of lymphedema. It's the most challenging area for
the body to drain lymph from, since it's quite far
from the trunk and the lymph node beds. We're
learning more and more that lymphedema ofthe
breast is not at all uncommon. Lymphedema of
the area under the armpit, the axilla, is a common
The lymphatics in the armpit are
compromised through surgery and radiation, which
makes it challenging [...] for the lymphatic system
to remove fluid and solid waste from the arm. We
don't have a good explanation for why it takes a
year, two years, three years. Most women will
develop some suggestion. They'll have an episode
of swelling within three years of their primary
breast cancer treatment, so the vast majority of
women who will ultimately develop lymphedema
are aware ofthat within three years.
Why there's such a delay, we really truly don't
understand. The current explanatory model goes
as follows.
It sends in inflammatory cells, what we call
neutrophils, but they're white blood cells that
penetrate the tissue. They're trying to solve the
problem, but, unfortunately, they cause more
problem because they perpetuate the inflammation
and the scarification, the scarring process, which
can cause further compromise because this fibrosis,
this scarring, can encompass the lymph vessels that
are still in the arm, that are still working, and
thereby worsen the lymphedema.
We get into a vicious cycle of more debris
accumulation, more inflammation, more scarring,
more compromise of the lymphatic system.There's more in the transcript.
The NLN recently released a supplement to their early screening guideline, but for some reason it's not on their site right now, and I think that's were I saw the early signs.
I think the best thing is to see a LE therapist early on for measurements and guidance with exercise and risk reduction.
Kira
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JenLee, at the top of this forum there are some "pinned" topics, one of which is called "Visible Signs of Lymphedema - A Pictorial." LindaLou has posted photos to illustrate the signs of lymphedema in arms and hands. It can be helpful in noticing the subtle signs that indicate fluid build-up in the tissues. Sorry, but I can't figure out how to link to it.
Be well!
Binney -
Kira & Binney, I appreciate your helpful answers... I had looked in a lot of places and couldn't find early signs, so that helps. Not sure if 3.5 months after SNB biopsy would be too early for something like this. My arm/hand don't look like the photos, but some of the early signs that Kira mentioned are there, though I've gone from healthy to hypochondriac since my diagnosis, so I'll find a LE therapist to check it out. Thanks again, Jenifer
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