Early signs of Lymphedema

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jenlee
jenlee Member Posts: 504
edited June 2014 in Lymphedema

Could someone refer me to a link or site where I could find early signs for lymphedema?  If there is an issue, I assume that figuring it out early would be helpful... I'd like to know what to avoid to make it worse, etc.  I have been stepping up my exercise program and want to make sure I don't do anything that would have adverse effects.  I have strange pain under my arm (not really severe, just strange & tingly) where my SNB scar is (there's a lump under the scar that they looked at with ultrasound and said it's scar tissue).  My upper arm on that side looks slightly larger (though that is my dominant side) a bit "jiggly" and the other doesn't.   Thanks, Jenifer

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  • kira66715
    kira66715 Member Posts: 4,681
    edited March 2012

    Jenlee, I'm trying to think of a site that has the early signs in one place--they are heaviness, tightness, swelling, achiness,warmth tingling, numbness.

    I saw a great list, and now I can't remember where I saw it.

    I recently re-read the transcript of a podcast by Andrea Cheville on LE on the LBBC site, and she discussed it

    http://www.lbbc.org/Event-Archive/2009-02-20-Lymphedema


    We placed the most emphasis on lymphedema
    in the arm because that's the most common site
    of lymphedema. It's the most challenging area for
    the body to drain lymph from, since it's quite far
    from the trunk and the lymph node beds. We're
    learning more and more that lymphedema ofthe
    breast is not at all uncommon. Lymphedema of
    the area under the armpit, the axilla, is a common
    The lymphatics in the armpit are
    compromised through surgery and radiation, which
    makes it challenging [...] for the lymphatic system
    to remove fluid and solid waste from the arm. We
    don't have a good explanation for why it takes a
    year, two years, three years. Most women will
    develop some suggestion
    . They'll have an episode
    of swelling within three years of their primary
    breast cancer treatment, so the vast majority of
    women who will ultimately develop lymphedema
    are aware ofthat within three years.
    Why there's such a delay, we really truly don't
    understand. The current explanatory model goes
    as follows.
    It sends in inflammatory cells, what we call
    neutrophils, but they're white blood cells that
    penetrate the tissue. They're trying to solve the
    problem, but, unfortunately, they cause more
    problem because they perpetuate the inflammation
    and the scarification, the scarring process, which
    can cause further compromise because this fibrosis,
    this scarring, can encompass the lymph vessels that
    are still in the arm, that are still working, and
    thereby worsen the lymphedema.
    We get into a vicious cycle of more debris
    accumulation, more inflammation, more scarring,
    more compromise of the lymphatic system.

    There's more in the transcript.

    The NLN recently released a supplement to their early screening guideline, but for some reason it's not on their site right now, and I think that's were I saw the early signs.

    I think the best thing is to see a LE therapist early on for measurements and guidance with exercise and risk reduction.

    Kira

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited March 2012

    JenLee, at the top of this forum there are some "pinned" topics, one of which is called "Visible Signs of Lymphedema - A Pictorial." LindaLou has posted photos to illustrate the signs of lymphedema in arms and hands.  It can be helpful in noticing the subtle signs that indicate fluid build-up in the tissues. Sorry, but I can't figure out how to link to it.

    Be well!
    Binney

  • jenlee
    jenlee Member Posts: 504
    edited March 2012

    Kira & Binney, I appreciate your helpful answers...  I had looked in a lot of places and couldn't find early signs, so that helps. Not sure if 3.5 months after SNB biopsy would be too early for something like this.  My arm/hand don't look like the photos, but some of the early signs that Kira mentioned are there, though I've gone from healthy to hypochondriac since my diagnosis, so I'll find a LE therapist to check it out.  Thanks again, Jenifer

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