Triple Negative- anything positive?
I've just read that those of us with triple negative BC have the highest chance of reoccurrence and poor prognosis if mets occur. Does anyone have any positive information? Is there a long time survivor out there that can help me feel a little more encouraged? I just finished chemo today and I am feeling very discouraged by what I am reading..maybe I should stop reading.
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Hi, I have a friend who had TNBC in 2001 and she ws 29 at the time. Her's was stage 2b and she's doing well. She's gotten married and has had two children since then. I also work with a woman who was diagnosed 11 years ago with hormone negative BC (with either Her2+ or Her2-...she doesn't know). Anyway, she's also doing very well. They were both such an inspiration to me. Hang in there and congratulations on being done with chemo. I finished two years ago on Feb. 8th!!!
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I have a friend who was triple neg with pos nodes, coming up on her four year date of diagnosis and fine
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Sugar77 and fightinhrd1- thank you so much for the positive responses. I hae been told that in time the fear fades and life just goes on..I am hoping that is the case. I know I also need to keep a positive attitude, but as you know, by the time we reach the end of chemo we are pretty beat up and have to dig down deep to muster somwe positivity..I so appreciate your support!
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I posted a response on the other thread to you also. I went over 8 years without a recurrence after stage 2b triple neg. I had a new primary in opposite breast last march, but don't let that scare you as I am brca 1 pos. Reaching the end of chemo is a scary time, but it does get better.
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Kelley..oh yeah TN is scary..but so is any kind of BC...it is easy to feel hopeless sometimes..very easy..I dunno...the best thing to do is go out and live as much as you can while you can...if you are feeling good now..chances are you will still continue to be that way.
I'm almost 3 years out and feeling fine..my co-worker is 8 years out and is great...you just don't know...I have also had a young girl in my community die of TN 1 year ago and know of another who isn't doing very well...plus we have people on this thread doing well and some that are not...
I think that we have to have our fears...to be realistic.....and we can never say..everything is going to be fine and we will live forever...but there's got to be a middle ground somewhere...we still have to function, work, laugh, and just live....I guess we have to be prepared..but not let us stop us from what we want to do with our lives...
Sorry to be so...weird maybe..but it needs to be said
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Thanks Titan- I guess none of us have any guarentees. My surgeons have all been very positive. My onc said I can get my port out so thats a good sign. I hope as time goes on I will fear less and live more..right now I cant even believe chemo is over..on to radiation next
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Positive: saw my onc on Monday and I am ned for 4 years. It is possible. And after five years, our chance of recurrence drops way down!
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thank you guitarGrl- you all have givenme great hope and increased courage!
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Kelley,
I will be 4 years out in April. When I was diagnosed, I spoke with a woman who was 10 years out (would be 14 years out by now) and found out that I work with a woman who is 24 years out. I think that you will find that there are a lot of long term survivors out there. Remember, TN was not terminology used until recently. The women I had spoken to never thought of their cancers that way. There are lots of charts floating around out there. I have read that the highest risk of recurrence in in the first 2 - 3 years and then it drops dramatically until after 5 years when recurrence is less that 1%.
You'll be ok. I went through the same thing. It's so stressful.
Take care,
Lorrie
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thank you Lorrie- the more positive I hear from my sisters the better I am feeling. I guess this is a normal place to be as I finish up active treatment..I am hoping that as time goes on and I continue to recover I will have less fear.
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You should check out the blog "Positives about Negative." I found it comforting...
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II had triple negative breast cancer in 2005, I was 55 years old, I am still alive and kicking now at 62,
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Kelley: Please keep in mind that the majority of TNS out there don't frequent this board because, well, they are living their life fully. The vast majority of us are fine. However, the scary part is when we hear someone recuring on one of these threads, and that makes it pretty darn scary. My half sister told me to get rid of the negativity in my life when I was dx. I, like her, am a firm believer that severe stress definitely aides in the creation of cancer. Strangly, her name is Kelly too, but her cancer was not triple neg. I am brca2+ as well, which is a whole other story in terms of likelihood for cancer. Do what the doctors are suggesting, but make sure to read up on things. You are your best advocate. If ever in doubt, get another opinion. And, oh, btw..... LIVE.
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Cc4npg is right - most of us who are years away from treatment don't come back all that much. But remembering all the good support I got when I was diagnosed and thinking about treatment options, i come back infrequently to give support. PM me if you have any questione
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Thanks everyone- I can not tell you how much comfort you have given me..I am just coming off the steroids from this last..yes LAST chemo treatment so the emotions are a little higher. I still see the road ahead of me as long..surgery and rads..but I am ready to jump back into my positive life and enjoy every minute..thank you thank you thank you!
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I'm coming up on my 4 yrs from DX in March.....triple neg, node positive and BRCA1+ and as far as I know I am doing fine. So as scary as it can be.....the fear will lessen with time.
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You have been encouraging! I started treatment in 3/11 and now it has already returned. Not sure about what treatment to do. Physician has recommended a trial study. The side effects sound really scary. Am looking into a second opinion. Any advice?
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honda, you can find more information about clinical trials in general at the main Breastcancer.org site, here. What was your original diagnosis and initial treatment? Whatever you decide about next steps in treatment, we're here to support you!
Judith and the Mods
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Thank you all for these encouraging words. I'm half way through my chemo and am already thinking/worrying about recurrance. I'm a natural worrier!
What kinds of tests do you have done to know that you're NED?
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Sorry - more questions - how often are you monitored? Do TNers go to doc more than other BC types?
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CharB22: In terms of tests, each oncologist is different. Many of us have cancer marker tests done via bloodwork. My onc does this test every so often, but she is quick to tell me that the marker test alone does not necessarily mean cancer has returned if the markers are higher. They like the number to be below 40, or at least that is what my onc told me. I finished chemo the end of January, for instance, and my first marker test was in July. My number was something like 32. In September she ran the test again and it had actually dropped to like 24. I just had another marker test but don't know the result. Again, she stated to me that even if the number goes up, it doesn't mean cancer has returned. She likes to have two things happen before hitting a "concerned" button. If there is anything different - pain, headache, anything out of the ordinary PLUS higher marker numbers - then she would look further into it. With this type of cancer, we tend to be hyper sensitive to anything out of the ordinary. Honestly, most of us get concerned when we get a fever or have a backache. It's normal after dx. But the majority of the time, it's not related to cancer. It's just hard for us to remember that normal aches and pains (prior to cancer dx) just simply meant we had over exerted ourselves or whatever. I personally go on faith that my cancer is gone. The mind is a powerful thing. You can make yourself sick, and I firmly believe you can also prevent illness by positive thinking.
I don't know that we are monitored differently or more frequently than other types of cancer. Most guidelines are set already, so onc's just follow those sets of criteria. I started off seeing my onc every 2 months. She said I would then go to every 3 months, and then 4, and so on. If something strange happens, then I'm sure the onc determines if you need to be seen more often to watch things.
Exercising, eating low fat diets, eating whole foods/organic, staying away from sugar/milk chocolate - these are just a few things that aide in keeping TN away. However, you must also use common sense and realize that there have been people who do everything right who have still been dx TN. There honestly doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to most of it.
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Angelisa- thanks for your post..you make a lot of very good points. There are no guarentees for sure. I think right now for me as I am finishing treatment it is a matter of digging down deep to find my faith..its difficult to do when I feel like I have had the crap kicked outta me for 4 months. All of you here help me stay positive and work through my fear. Kelley
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Thank you ccnpg. I've never heard of cancer markers. After all of my treatment is done, I'm joining Weight Watchers (there are meetings at my work) and hitting the gym a lot more. I've already been gradually switching to organic and I know I need to stay away from sugar. I read that Stevia is ok... is it?
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I was Triple Negative and went 19 years without a recurrence. Recently diagnosed with a NEW primary tumor - again, triple negative. So I basically survived the first one and intend to do the same with the second. Try to keep your chin up!
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Thanks Joan- very reassurring!
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Thanks Joan..for posting..my question is..did you find it yourself?? which is common for TNCB..or was it through mammogram
I'm almost 3 years out.. and "they" are talking about extending my time between being seen by the onc and bs...I'm really not sure about this...I think I would be more comfortable being seeing at least every 6 months...since TNCB is an interval type of cancer.
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Hi All, what great inspiration! I am TN and am getting close to end of treatment. I have surgery and chemo complete and am in the middle of radiation. I cried when my ONC told me he didn't need to see me for 6 weeks... crazy
I was taking comfort in regular appointments and have to cut the cord slowly...
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Hi Kelly,
I understand exactly how you feel. I was diagnosed with stage 2, Triple Negative Breast Cancer in 2007, when I was just 26 years old. I felt exactly the way you are feeling now. I went online and did lots of research about TNBC, and read nothing but negative things that just made me extremely depressed. But I know now that there are women with TNBC who do survive this disease and live many years.
This year in August will be 5 years for me since I was diagnosed with the disease in 2007 and I'm doing great. I just had my follow-up appointment on February 13, and my tests were good. I feel great. I'm sure you'll be a survivor as well. I know it's hard, but please try not to worry so much over it.
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Thanks Lisa- The more triple negatives I talk to with positive results the better I am feeling. I am having a hard time trusting my body right now so every ache and pain has me a little freaked out. Kelley
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