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Rosewyld
Rosewyld Member Posts: 6

DCIS found in both breasts, bilateral mastectomy on 2/22/2012. Doctors say my prognosis is good but waiting for my pathology report is scaring me. Should I be worried? The surgeon did a SNB, he didn't feel it was needed but the oncologist wouldn't sign off on the procedure if he didn't. Low nuclear grade (if that helps)

 I am trying to not think of the worst but... its kinda hard not too.

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  • 1openheart
    1openheart Member Posts: 765
    edited February 2012

    Probably not a bad idea to go ahead and do the SNB, even with a low grade DCIS.   From my understanding, you can't do a SNB after the fact if you don't have any breasts.  I have heard of some people having the dye injected into their arms, but I don't think this is very common.  I'm sure that someone will posts who has more info about that. 

    Waiting is the hardest part in my opinion.  I really can't answer the question of whether or not you should be worried.  If you are not worrying, you must have a stronger mind than most of us!  The fact that your DCIS low grade is a good thing.  I think the chances of invasion will be less with a grade 1 vs a grade 3.   

    You have come to the right place to wait.  We have all been there and will wait with you.  Sending positive, healing thoughts your way.  

    How is your recovery going?   

  • Rosewyld
    Rosewyld Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2012

    It's going alright, I'm back to largely doing stuff for myself (after a week!) my poor husband has been run ragged through this journey with me, then again so have I.

    My surgeon says all I might need is to take some pills afterwards, he seems confident that I will be alright (wish I had a pound of that confidence, seriously) My anxiety right now is flared up hugely. So that is what is making what I feel in my gut to be a all good report findings seem hugely overbloated.

    And the drains SUCK. Like Epic Industrial Strength Hoover Vaccuum SUCK.

  • 1openheart
    1openheart Member Posts: 765
    edited February 2012

    Drains..yes they suck big time.  Since I had a UMX, I only had two drains.  I had one removed at 10 days out and the other removed about a week after that.  I did the Happy Dance on that day.

    The pills he is referring to is probably either tamoxifen or an aromatase inhibitor.  I take tamoxifen and will for 4 more year.  

    I will give you a gentle warning to not over do this soon after surgery.  It will set you back if you do. Your body had been through so much and it needs time to heal.

    Worrying is normal and until you hear your doctor's voice tell you that the path. report was clear, your mind will go over all the possibilities.   Hang in there. 

  • Rosewyld
    Rosewyld Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2012

    I have two drains in.

    I will do whatever it takes to get better, honestly. 

    Yeah, I've been taking it easy for the rest of the day. Its hard on me to do that.

     Thanks, I needed that. 

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited February 2012

    Rosewyld,

    With low grade DCIS, the odds are really good that nothing more than DCIS will be found.  Overall in about 20% of cases where DCIS is found in a biopsy, once the final surgery is complete and all the tissue has been analysed under a microscope, something more serious will be found.  That's an average for all women with DCIS which means that the risk is quite a bit lower for those who have low grade DCIS (as you do) vs. those who have high grade DCIS (as I did - and I did turn out to have a microinvasion of IDC).  

    If it turns out that your final diagnosis is pure DCIS, because you have had a bilateral mastectomy, there will be little benefit to taking hormone therapy (Tamoxifen or one of the aromatase inhibitors).  After a BMX, your risk to have a recurrence or develop a new BC is only around 1% - 2%.  These drugs can cut the risk almost in half but with a risk level that is already so low, the absolute benefit would only around 1% (a 50% reduction of a 2% risk).  These drugs also come with side effects and risks of their own; for those who've had a BMX for DCIS, these side effects and risks may actually be greater than the benefit you'd get from the drug.  Once you have your final pathology report, you should see a medical oncologist.  This is the doctor who is responsible for prescribing any post-surgery drugs. Because you had the BMX, I would be very surprised if an oncologist recommended anything further for you, if your final diagnosis is pure DCIS.  I had only a single mastectomy and my oncologist actually recommended against Tamoxifen for me, even though I would have had the additional benefit of protection of my remaining breast.  He said that he would prescribe it for me if I wanted it in order to reduce my BC risk in my remaining breast, but he felt that the overall benefit did not warrant the risks and side effects.  I did a lot of research on it and ended up agreeing. 

    Good luck with the final pathology report.  Hopefully it's all good news.  Let us know.  

  • Rosewyld
    Rosewyld Member Posts: 6
    edited March 2012

    It is all good news!

    Pure DCIS, nodes clear, etc.. Might have to take Tamo, I'll see what the medical oncologist has to say but I can take a pill, no big. AAAAND! I got my drains out!

    So, I'm thinkin...a steak dinner tonight? 

    Hell, I was so happy I hugged my doctor XD

  • Emaline
    Emaline Member Posts: 492
    edited March 2012

    Woohoo on your great path report and for getting your drains out!!  We went out to dinner and celebrated as well :)

  • Rosewyld
    Rosewyld Member Posts: 6
    edited March 2012

    I was pimp-walking out of my doctors off spinnin' my cane.

  • 1openheart
    1openheart Member Posts: 765
    edited March 2012

    That is great news Rose!!!!  So glad your nodes are clear and no invasion.  I am taking Tamoxefin.  Not crazy about it, but I'm managing.  Yea for being drain free too!  

    You should treat yourself to whatever you feel like eating tonight....steak with a nice glass of red and DESSERT!   Heck....eat dessert first! 

  • Iz_and_Lys_Mum
    Iz_and_Lys_Mum Member Posts: 126
    edited March 2012

    Fab news Rose. Take it easy, rest when you need to and listen to your body would be my advice.



    Happy healing hugs xxx

  • jo50
    jo50 Member Posts: 75
    edited March 2012

    big congrats. Great news, and what a relief and load off your mind. Hope you heal quickly now too from the surgery.

  • cinnamonsmiles
    cinnamonsmiles Member Posts: 779
    edited March 2012

    You may want to get a second opinion on the tamoxifen with dcis and a double mastecomy. My oncologist told me that it was not needed for dcis, seeing that the milk ducts are gone. I think Beesie wrote about that in one of my recent posts. She said something that it wasn't needed for dcis with bmx. Ooops...Beesie already did explain. No sense putting  your body through something that really isn't needed.

  • Rosewyld
    Rosewyld Member Posts: 6
    edited March 2012

    As it turns out, the Tumor Board recommended I take Tamoxifen but my oncologist basically said there was no point to my taking it since i had a bilateral mastectomy. Fine by me.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited March 2012

    Actually I can't imagine why the Tumor Board would have suggested Tamoxifen after a BMX for DCIS.  It makes no sense at all.  There's not a lot that is clear cut in the world of breast cancer but if you have a BMX for DCIS and you don't have exceptionally narrow margins, it's pretty hard for the risk vs. benefit equation on Tamox to work out any way but to say that the risk from the Tamox is greater than the benefit it will provide.  Good thing your oncologist has the knowledge and common sense to tell you this!

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