February 2012 MX
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Nel and Mary625,
I pray that you guys can come to terms with your body....I know it is difficult. The other day I spoke up to a room full of people saying, "I just realized that the only thing I have left that makes me a woman is a vagina!" Its interesting how the loss of these items affects different people in different ways. The first time I looked at my new foobs I laughed. I look ridiculous! My chest is spread out and most of my new foobs are under my arms! But the swelling will go down and the breasts will drop a bit.
I hope that things get better for you ladies. Your body does not define you. You are the same person you were before....in some ways better....stronger for what you have been through. I wish you the best. Namaste'.
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Thanks crazypenguinfan (and Galsal,too) for the roster comment. I had originally just made a list in a word doc., printed it out and kept by the computer. When I saw a new name, I would just add our new Feb gal by hand to the list. When they posted after surgery, I'd highlight their name in yellow. When it got all cluttered, I'd update my word doc. Sometimes after reading a post, I'd make a hand-written note next the roster (like Pelicangirl's surgery was memorable- how are you doing, lady?).
It is reassuring for me to know that many of us "early" surgery women are now having the same mental- emotional concerns. The: "This ain't over". The range of stages and types of BC for us means different treatments, longevity and relapse predictors. I truly feel for my Feb. buddies who have to deal with some of the issues after surgery DXs they are facing. Even some of the family situations on top of the BC mess is daunting. Special hugs to you.
BTW, I just edited this post as I had made an error concerning Alicthecat's status. I wish the rosy scenario I had thought was true for her. Thank you Alicethecate for the correction. I greatly appreciateiat.
Deborah2012
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Hi Ladies,
Boy, I'm having more trouble with constipation and crippling nausea than the actual surgery. I begged my husband to shoot me at 3am this morning. I began to feel like an old wounded horse that had outlived its days. Thankfully, after suppositories and enemas, I am coming back!
But, Nel and Mary- the emotional stuff....we've been to hell and back. It's so natural that the emotional "breakdowns" will occur....and I figure, that compared to a lot of women on this board, I had it easy! Yet, I had a friend call me last night complaining about how rough her life has been lately because she had to do FAFSA's (college applications) and taxes and how hard she's been working....and I thought, "you're kidding me...right?" When I couldn't stand to listen another 20 minutes about how tough life was for her, I said "I'll just be happy when I can go an entire day without vomiting." That shut her up...teehee.... but really, this has not been easy, so, again, emotional jags...that's the norm.
Anyway, gentle hugs, my sisters...here's hoping each day gets better and better for all of us,
Debbie
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DebbieOs,
I'm chuckling about your busy friend. "That sucks... listen to my crap" greeting line for another thread on breastcancer.org. comes to mind. Glad you were able to get your head out of the toilet and post!
Hope you feel much better.
Rainy today. Working on all the paperwork for a 2nd opinion at a medical research university regarding potential treatment with my DX. Fun, fun, fun! And who has a fax at home anymore? I can scan anything but they don't take that submittal form. I've got a pile of paths, MRIs, ultras etc.
Deborah2012
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It's an emotional roller coaster and we are all on it together. Thank God we have each other!! I swear sometimes I think I'm losing my mind, then I log on here and ALWaYS feel much better. I've laughed, cried and been angry with and for all of you. It's a process and we are all going to make it through. I'm so grateful and blessed that my BMX was a curative procedure...I don't have a next step (other than reconstruction) and I'm still on the emotional roller coaster. Just last night I felt like none of my friends "get it".....some of my very best friends I haven't heard from in weeks!! I mean I've had major surgery and their lives have gone on without me? I woke up this morning with a whole new prespective and realized that I am just so tired of it all. I wish I could move on. All of you with chemo and radiation in your future....I'll be praying for you every single day AND I'll be here on this board every single day cheering you on. I'm still IN this :-)
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Hey gals!! I got through it! Yay!!!! So glad to have surgery behind me and start on the healing curve. It really hasn't been bad; the pain meds and pain pump are keeping me comfortable. Unfortunately two nodes were invloved, so I will probably be facing chemo... oh well.... got to do what has to be done! My plastic surgeon was able to insert the gel breast forms so I won't be dealing with TE's.... yay again!!
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I had my MX 1 week ago. I almost can't type because of the nerve pain running down my arm. I think it is from the drains (which are scheduled to come out on Friday). They are excrutiating. I'm sick of being bound up. I had a one step implant on the right side, and a "lift" for the left breast. Now I am only an "A" cup, so that is why they could do it without TE. Has anyone had their drains removed yet, and how bad is it? It's really the only thing bothering me. The "foob" doesn't hurt, and the lift doesn't hurt. Just these damn drains!!
Hugs to everyone! I tried to read some of the posts, but I have a hard time understanding all the abbrievations!
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Hi Deborah
Thank you so much for keeping track of everyone on the February 2012 MX thread. It has really made this site into a community.
So pleased to see your result. Congratulations to those who got the news they wanted and support to those who haven't. Onwards and upwards!
The onc is throwing the whole caboodle at me - chemo, radiation, immunotherapy - because I'm HER2+ - so anyone want to join me on the March 2012 Chemo thread?
Best wishes
AlicetheCat
P.S. I did have to have a seroma aspirated last week. It did make me feel a bit queasy but it was really no big deal.
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LTR227, I had my drain removed on Mon. The nurse had me take a couple of deep breaths, then I tensed and she said All done! It wasn't bad at all.
Pelicangirl, They told me to call when my drain was less that 30cc. I'd give them a call.
I had a hard time at the store yesterday. I looked at clothes while my husband shopped for food. I have no idea what is going to work later. If I did, I could start sewing and that would give me somethng to do. I had UMX without recon and can't wear a bra for 5 weeks. And until I can wear the bra, who knows what's going to work. Right now my wardrobe is mostly T-shirts.
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Hi Ladies,
We are at the end of our big month and we made it!!! I hope everyone that went today is doing well!!
Just wanted to let anyone who is looking for ABD shapewear, that I found what's called a control torsette @ Sam's Club for about $20. It goes below the bust so you can wear your own bra, and has hook up the front for easy in/out. It provides nice ABD support and also hides some of the bumps and bulges!!! So, if you're in the market, it seemed a good price in comparison the other things I've found. The sizes range from 4-6 to a 20-22.
Happy leap year all!!!
Carolyn
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Alicethecat,
What the heck???? I am so bummed out about your DX. I thought you had your MX, no drains at all, up and around super quick, I think you had what I called the "bionic" recovery. I thought you had no chemo, rads, HT- nada on your horizon.
So much for my keeping track! I'll have to go back to some of the early page numbers on this thread. Maybe I confused two of my sisters? I apologize in advance.
I am so sad and crushed to hear you are facing such an onslaught! If in the unlikely event that I didn't mess up, then your final pathology report was the mother of all surprises? I thought your last post was like the happiest ending possible in an MX story. If I only could find those ruby slippers and click three times I give you the DX I had thought you had. I hope my error didn't make it more difficult for you. I think I deserve one of those "That sucks, Deobrah2012, but rlisten to my crap more carefully especially while you are on any meds!". You were very gracious.
We Feb. sisters will look for one another on the treatment threads based on what our oncs throw at us.
Anyone out there who has had their final, final path report post MX/BMX and met with her onc and was told there is nothing going forward to do?
I think if one was a DCIS with a BMX then you're done.
Anyone else have their onc say they don't want you to do anything at all going forward?
Anyone else going for a second opinion (if you can handle all the paperwork etc.) besides me prior to beginning prevention treatment?
Susanes welcome back! It's great to hear from you so soon! So, do you have a recliner? It seems to be the favorite item for the BMX crowd. We care about what happens to you. So even though some of us are past where you are, we do want to hear about drains, moods, and recovery.
Hope wildrumara (BMX), Bern25, and dreniger (BMX) are resting comfortably after their big day, today.
Thanks.
I just corrected this post as I had erred in Alicethecat's status. Time for me to have a glass of the forbidden red wine! Sheesh!
Deborah2012
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Hi Deborah,
I'm the one with the DCIS and no further treatment. It makes me feel guilty when I know what everyone else is going through. I have always referred to it as baby cancer, since it's a stage zero. I really do struggle with feeling guilty. My sister was diagnosed Aug 2010 with stage 3b. We aren't very close, and I waited until a week ago to tell her as I knew she would try to disuade me from having the MX. When I did finally tell her, she kept saying, well you've just done well cuz you don't really have cancer. Your pain isn't that bad cuz you don't really have cancer, etc.
I concede, I know I have been very fortunate and have a much easier road than the majority, so I don't really know where I fit. Like I said, I know I've got it easier, but an BMX with a pedicle TRAM is no walk in the park either. I didn't realize cancer was a contest and I'm more than happy not to win!!! My DH was helpful and empathetic for the first 5 days, but because I've done well has since has reverted back to life as usual taking his son to the movies leaving me alone my first weekend home from the hospital... My friends have been wonderful and I am very thankful for them!!!
Sorry about the tirade, but it's been bottled up and I think I just needed to get it out... Rainy days and emotions yuck!!! Sorry again, just having a bad day.
By the way, none of that was directed at you, you all have been absolutely wonderful and a great emotinal support!!!
Thanks for listening, only smiles from here out
Carolyn
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Carolyn,
I also was diagnosed with DCIS and after bmx learned that I don't need any further treatment either. I am so thankful, but also feel guilty. I wish I could do something to make things easier for those that did not the results they wanted.
No matter what others say, my doctors assure me that DCIS is cancer. You have been through a lot and if others don't understand, that is their problem. Spend time with people that make you feel good, you deserve happiness and support! -
Yay ....i finally got 2 tubes out just one more to go. Still not allowed to shower yet in 2 days it will be a month. On the downside of the day i have pneumonia and tested positive for cancer in 17 lymph nodes and tumor was over 9 cm. I am now being tested for metastasis in other body parts.
Need some good news soon.
I am off to read your recent posts i hope i can read some good things have happened to you all.
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I forgot to mention this. Last week, an RN from my UHC insurance called to check in with me. Said they do that for all when they see some one has been discharged from a hospital or had surgery. She asked lots of questions about the discharge instructions, well-being, other health issues, all Rx, etc. She plans on calling again this week to follow-up, especially since the drains were still in then.
Now if we can get them to realize that the second opinion I had was from an IN-network clinic. While the claims were not "denied" nothing was paid on them either. Our benefits person at work has contacted them that she wants a line-by-line conversation about this. She has a copy of the claims and bills from me. Also, I asked about UHC having a cancer resource and she gave me the phone number. Naturally, I did express my displeasure that no one had deigned to tell me about it when I'd called to confirm my coverage specific to breast cancer after dx.
No nurse visits would have been needed - have an RN neighbor and an LPN son.
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No, Deborah2012, the only recliner I have access to is a manual one, so I will stick to a bed with steps and lots of pillows. I will surely need help getting for several days at least! The drains are a pain- I have six!! But the pain pump seems to be working well since I don't feel too bad. No final path report yet...
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Dixiemine - did you check your insurance,you are supposed to have a home health care nurse on our insurance or call the patient nurse coordinator at the hospital,they had mine arranged for me but it really wasnt necessary after the first week. I can take my own temp and blood prz for crying out loud! And I would think I would know if it was infected!! She was good company tho,it got lonely with all my friends back at work and fiance was here but left so early and got home late so me & the dog and the dog doesnt hold much of a conversation..lol..
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Hi Deborah,
I havent met with my med onc post op yet (that's next week), but was told that with my DX of actually invasive mammary carcinoma (features of IDC, ILC and DCIS) with no metastisis to my lymph nodes that all I would need after my MX was 5 yrs of aromatase inhibitors (which I tend to view as "no more treatment" because it's so mild). But, ya know, no matter whether any of us has further treatment or more, we are ALL on the "watch list" from now on, I believe....
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To my DCIS sisters,
Please don't feel guilty for even one minute. People who genuinely care about others are delighted when they hear good news about them. BC is not a competition for victim status. We all are just trying to learn from each other. I lost my right breast in its entirety specifically because of DCIS. This wasn't a "choice" I made to be extra safe. It's the standard of care because I had IDC & DCIS. I'll be happy to make up any shortage of happiness for the DCIS ladies tyou may be feeling due to "guilt" because I am elated when I read your posts!
Gee whiz susanes, 6 drains! I hope you have some moisture left in your body.
beth1965 your DX sucks. It's a lousy, no good DX. In fact, it's a perfectly irritating DX. I would be paralyzed thinking they are testing me for mets. How was your BC originally detected if I may ask? You're in the grunge pagent with me. Tomorrow evening I'm hopping in. Are you at home with your pneumonia or hospitalized? Remember we are here to follow your progress (and any setbacks).
Deborah2012
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DebbieOs,
Have you wandered over to the HT threads? There's plenty of misery on that thread, too. That's precisely why I want to get a second opinion. Although I'm happy to evade chemo and rads- the SE of HT for numerous women are debilitating I am definitely considering it treatment (preventive treatment). My BC friend who had a lumpectomy with rads and chemo had such a horrible time with HT that she quit it altogether. Said she would take her chances with relapse rather than continue with the SE she had. I hope I tolerate HT well. I fear that if I don't, I'll opt out, too. Apparently many women are lucky and it doesn't bother them much at all. We're looking at 5 yrs. minimum. Like some criminal sentence-five years under house arrest!
It'd be great if we saw each other on the HT threads when we get there. .
Deborah2012
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Happy Leap Year, one and all!
On this last day of February I need to jump in and join the group. But before I do, I want to say how impressed I am with how caring, supportive, honest and funny this thread is. Like many others have said before me, I wish we weren't here, but remain so grateful for the great company.
My question is this: how does one tell if one should be taking pain meds .... or maybe switch to anti-depressants? My BMX ( no reconstruction) was on the 8th, and I still find myself in quite a bit of pain. I can't take most of the entry level stuff, so it is either extra-strength tylenol or percocet, and not much in the middle. Now I'm "down" to taking 1/2 or 1 percocet in the afternoon and then one at night to help with sleep. The constipation and the other SEs of the narcotics really bug me, but I find that I don't have much choice. I always thought I had a fairly high tolerance for pain. And other than the large malignant growth in my breast, consider myself a reasonably healthy person. So I'm mad at myself for not feeling better... for not healing faster.
Yesterday my younger daughter turned two , and I had neither the strength nor the range of motion to do any decorating other than blow up balloons.
She's such a great kid. She deserves streamers, you know?
I find myself so bleeping angry at cancer these days. I miss my hair and my breasts. I miss being able to breastfeed. I miss being able to drive my kindergartner to school and I miss holding the little one on my hip. I miss being able to do things for myself. And I miss the notion, misinformed though it might have been, that I was strong and healthy. My usual feel good strategy of looking forward to some cool project or family vacation seems dashed by the big C as well. After surgery comes 4 more rounds of chemo (Taxol), then radiation, then Tamox and the express train to menopause. I know one day the treatment will be over and the new normal will show itself, but that seems like such a long trudge from here.
I know I could have it much, much worse. The tumor was huge and the nodes were positive, but no sign of mets so far. I have a good doc and a great support system. Yet I can't help but feeling like I could scream and/ or weep at almost any given moment of the day. I don't recognize the woman in the mirror, and I don't recognize her journal entries, either.
Sorry for the big vent session. It must be time for me to take my medication and go to bed.
Gentle hugs to all,
Chris
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Wrongchick, I thought it must be Me...feeling like I would benefit from pain meds even though bmx was 2/10. Usually I take one at bedtime, hoping I can get more than 1-2 hours of sleep at a time. That's no help, I still wake up. Now, I don't feel pain like when surgery was first done or when I first came home. It's more than an ache, it's a hurt that doesn't go away much. I don't know if it's from hurt/pain or that the surgery has in turned caused a major Fibro flare. Of course, can't take NSAID for it at this time. A good part of me feels like I returned to work too early, even though I'm working four hours a day. Sleeping badly is not helping, I've no doubt.
Wish I could wave the magic wand for you and all would be well, especially because of your very young child. Blessings to you!
Deborah - Yes, it DOES sound like sentencing about being on the Tamoxifen or other like it doesn't it. Grrr
Sally
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I think most of us are feeling the feelings now....it is sinking in that our lives will never be the same...I wish you all well in whatever decisions you have made regarding treatment...it is so understandable that the emotional part of this is like a rollercoaster ride...whine away....most of us if not all feel the same way...I've been so up and down throughout this month....Nel - it is a little scary when you look at the scars but it does get easier...I am 4 weeks out of BMX and I am getting used to the scars...everything takes time.....PM me if you need to vent..((((hugs)))
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Dear Beth1965: thinking of you and hoping that things get better day by day. I too went through the testing for mets, and it was the most stressful part of this entire experience. I wish I had good advice to offer, but all I can say that worked for me was to take it one day at a time. I would say to myself "today you have to go to the hospital, drink the yucky stuff and lay in the tube. That's all you have to deal with today." Eventually the days would pass, it would all be over, and better news would arrive. One thing I would have done differently is push my doctors to give me the results asap. I was a wreck waiting for my appointment, and they thought someone had already given me the results. This resulted in needless stress on my part as the results were all benign. My theory (just a theory) is that the lymph nodes were doing their job.
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Beth1965 My thoughts and prayers are with you. deal with one day or hour, whatever you can manage at a time. Better days must be ahead
For everyone with no further treatment - Do not for one moment feel guilty. Cancer is cancer is cancer in whatever form or stage. It has changed us forever. Good news about BC or any form of cance is to be delighted in. This is not a contest. And anyone who makes you feel like it is, stepaway from them.
Mary625 and all, ahh the feelings we are all begining to experience. I am typically an upbeat person,can manage what gets thrown at me. I have certainly had some down and difficult days, particulalry right after my DX and before treatment began, but this last few days have been overwhelming. I am working form home a few hours a day, which is a help and have a work event all weekend ( I will nap when needed). But yesterday I napped for 4 hours, slept thru the night and this AM did not get my teen to school. Let her stay home, now it is snowing here in Mass, but I certainly could have driven, mostly rain in my neck of the woods, but just did not have the energy so used the snow as an excuse. This is not me. I never let my kids take a day off, she was amazed. I think I am experiencing the "pig pile" of feelings. The tears are right under the surface and I do no t let them out easily.
Once again begining my day by whining!
Thanks for listening
Nel
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Quite ok wrongchick,I completely understand sometimes we all get sick & tired of being sick & tired and there are rants on these threads but I am feeling it when I read them I say yes sister been there and done that,I know and I am right here with ya.
Deborah2012,I just took my first Arimidex pill 10 min ago so I'll let ya know how I feel and how it works out but if it makes me gain weight I'm gonna go see a different onc and complain or make up something about one of the side effects I see on the package insert (maybe short of breath) to get a different HT cause I sit 10 hr days at work and hardly feel like I can walk into the gym much less exercise at the end of the work day and obesity is a risk for all diseases.
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oh Beth1965 sweetie,you are having a darn rough time...get the Kleenex out and have yourself a good cry,you deserve to complain more than me. My drain fell out by itself even tho I slept in the recliner with my arms by my sides and just called the PS this morning to see if I can go on the bed now. (I could have gone on the bed anytime she said) We are all to concentrate on good thoughts for Beth to pull thru this with minimal collateral damage. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
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I know that is why I am having a hard time chosing a treatment plan...I am afraid of the side effects and my family history of heart failure in their 60's....I sometimes feel like it is a crap shoot...still on the fence about all of it...Hang in there...Please post your meds and side effects if any if you can....I know we are all different but for those who are going for the conventional treatment, you can be a good source of information for those who are not sure yet what treatments they are opting for. Thank you...stay strong my Feb. gals!!!!! God Bless US All!!!! (((big hugs))) P.S. I am getting outta the house today to keep me from thinking...try to keep as busy as you can...it gives you a break for the thoughts popping into your head!!!
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I took my first Femara this morning (generic name is something like Letrazole). I'll keep y'all advised.
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Oncologist wants to meet with me on Monday....we met before surgery and because I have 1%ER + status he wants me to do Femara. I think he will say the same again as 1 node taken during surgery was negative. To me 1% ER+ status doing Femara for 5 years....the benefits do not outweigh the risks. If that is his recommendation then I will say No. I don't want to take this ride for a third time but quality of life is much more important to me than quantity. I have read some nasty stuff about Femara and how it makes you feel like a 90 year old. No thanks.
For all of you having to do chemo, rads, etc......its no fun but it is doable. Keep telling yourself that it will be over...at some point down the road.....it will be over.
I pray you ladies do well. Namaste'.
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