I'm Quietly Freaking Out

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Yes, I 've been really emotional these last few days.  Maybe the Whitney Houston Stuff triggered everything, but Satruday I spent the whole afternoon crying. Sunday, still very teary eyed at everything,  Movies triggered tears, and just thinking about my scars and the whole BC thing sent me into crocadile tears yesterday.  I have not cried like these last 2 days in well over  a year or so.  Some things going on in my mind.  Metastasis to the lungs is a real fear right now for me.  Maybe cause my mom passed from Lung Cancer.  The recent pre-admissin exray prior to my knee surgery brought a lot up for me it said Interstitial Lung Disease .  That freaked me out because my scans last year showed " Questionable 3mm lung nodule" Upper left lobe, and an "undetermined but still stable nodule" on lower left lobe, but continued follow up recommended.  So now all this is swirling around in my head and I go to the breast center for my anual mammogram on Thursday for the "remaining breast" mammo.  This is really making me feel if there are problems in my lungs I hate just dealing with this mammo.  I know I  need to talk to my onc.  He's the head of the Breast oncology and metastatic breast cancer institute at the cancer center I go to.  But he's the type that is really not available on the phone if  I call  there, he's sheilded by all his team who I have to get thru to speak to him, and usually it ends up with me leaving a message with his onc nurse and then getting a call back telling me my onc wants to see meFrown  Then I go there with all of my fears and he sends me for more scans.  It's like I know how this is going to play out..  What's making me more scared is that I've been coughing at night, and also have experienced some shortness of breath.   I know I've heard that thinking too much about something can make it happen.  I hope this isn't true.  It's almost like I am expecting the Mets Shoe to drop in my lungs.  Really down today.

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Barb

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  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited February 2012

    Hugs Shanagirl. I for one refuse to worry about anything until someone says its a problem. We get aches and pains all the time that have nothing to do with diagnosis. All this stress can make you ill (and might even be the cause of that shortness of breath/ coughing). You are having it checked out. Don't panic until they say there is an issue.

    I just had my 3rd liver scan since diagnosis. Still no change in the lesions they think are cysts. Not sure if they are going to scan me again in a year (find out at my appointment in April). I still refuse to worry about it. I want to enjoy what ever time I have left… and I hope it's a long time for both of us.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    lago  ~ Thanks so much for your insight and kind words.  For the last few months I haven't really focused on my BC issues.  But then when the exray came back 3 weeks go that said " "Chronic Interstial Lung Disease and Hyperinflation"  It really freaked me out and brought all my repressed fears to the surface. Especially since this is a new developement since my last scan. I wish I could say I refuse to worry about it but right now I am not in the land of d nileUndecided

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    Barb

  • kathleen1966
    kathleen1966 Member Posts: 793
    edited February 2012

    Dear Barb, I think you really need a peace of mind scan. I don't think thinking about something too much causes it to happen, otherwise I would have won the lottery by now...Tongue out...or I'd have gone back in time and prevented all of this from happening in the first place (like that better)....I know it is very, very hard to continue on with our lives and not worry constantly about every little ache, pain, and morbid thought that comes into our heads.  I think this worry also gets pushed down and pushed down and then seeps up and overflows and this is why we have days of tears at times. There is no doubt...THIS.....IS.....HARD.. work.... I think what you need to tell yourself is A. I will get a scan and feel safe again and B. If there is something wrong, I will fight it, I will deal with it and everything will be ok.

    Are you a smoker?  Perhaps what is happening in your lungs is from your treatment or smoking...there are a lot of other things it could be other than cancer. And I feel if they REALLY saw something they would have insisted on more scans? I think you are clearly, clearly worried about it and you should just get the scan and go through the process.  You will feel soo much better afterwards.

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited February 2012

    (((((((((((((((((((((((BArb)))))))))))))))))))....I so wish that I could cry!!!!  my body feels the need for a cry, but just doesn't happen....would be so therapeutic for me.....Now back to you....I think you deserve time with your onc to discuss your fears....if he wants a scan, let him tell you the pros and cons.....I was supposed to see my onc on the 23rd, but they called and asked if I could move it as someone needed to get in for Tx....so now its not till the 15th of March and that is stressing me....I was counting on talking to him about many things......I think our oncs calm be a soothing (or not) for our fears....Ask for an appt!!!!  HUgs....Karen

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited February 2012

    and do you know how small 3mm is? its incredibly small. thats not even half a cm. 10 mm=1cm right?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    Kathleen 1966  I am not a smoker, and tho I used to smoke, my last cigarette was on my wedding day in 1972. You're probaly right that I need to speak with my onc and get a peace of mind scanUndecided 

    Karen  My body really did need that good cry.  It did feel pretty cleansing by today.  I do need my onc to calm me.

    Fran  I do know 3mm is incredibly small.  But it did show up as questionable and recommended follow up, so now I'm going to follow up after this recent ex ray showing "Interstitial Lung Disease".

    What is really wieghing heavy on my mind is I read that one of the causes listed for Interstitial lung disease can be Lymphangitic carcinomatosis which can result from BC mets.  Wow, when I read that my mimd went back to that last scan mentioning the nodules that needed to be followed up.  I know my onc well enough to know that he will want to scan me again if he suspects possible mets. 

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    Barb

  • SharonMH
    SharonMH Member Posts: 353
    edited February 2012

    Hi,  Hope that you have a better day tomorrow. Sometimes a good cry does wonders. Lets us know what your onc says.  SharonH

  • Outfield
    Outfield Member Posts: 1,109
    edited February 2012

    Barb, what exactly does he want to scan agan?  Your chest?  Seems it should be your right to say you want to talk directly to him.  There's so much this could be.  Hang in there.  

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited February 2012

    Aww Barb,

    I'm so sorry you are on that roller coaster again.  It SUCKS!  No two ways about it!  I wish I could give you some perfect words of wisdom but I get like you are too sometimes.  Last time it was my back, but as soon as I got the all clear things felt better almost immediately.  I think we do internalize all these new aches and pains and don't realize how much tension we build up in ourselves.  It DOES come out physically and emotionally.  I cry at weird times too now, and wish I could more when I really want to.  

    Hang in there babe.  You'll get through this and we'll be here for you along the way.

    Love,

    Sharon

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    Aww Sharon,  thanks,  you always have my back girl.  Tomorrow is another day.  Going for my yearly Mammogram on my uniboob, and I want to talk to my onc about my lung chest exray with the nodules and then the recent new stuff institial lung disease. Unitl I know that those questionable nodules didn't mets   and cause the interstitial lung issue, I'm just not into living in the land of denial gotta find out.

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    Barb

  • carcharm
    carcharm Member Posts: 486
    edited February 2012

    I think cheno can cause ILD. It is allergy season too and every since chemo my allgeries are thru the roof each spring. Many people with asthma, copd, bronchitis, have interstitial lung disease show u on xrays. One other thing just to share. A friend I worked with and I were both dx within 3 months of each other. She did lumptectomy with radiation I did the mastectomy. She had a nodule that they wanted to watch. She refused. She had a thoracotomy to remove it. It turned out to be granulation tissue. Praying for b-9 for you too.

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited February 2012

    Barb ,I don't have advice, but here are some virtual hugs, the best I can do. {{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}

  • YATCOMW
    YATCOMW Member Posts: 664
    edited February 2012

    Barb....if it makes you feel any better I had the same things....in fact a couple of small 2mm to 4mm spots in lungs.....7 years later I am still doing okay.

    I remember a friend telling me that if they turned everyone inside out there would be all kinds of lumps and bumps.....but because we have had cancer....we just freak more.

    Hang in there.

    Jacqueline

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    YATCOMW  I know right!  Trouble is, when it comes to questionable nodules on lungs that they recommend follow up was worrisome enough, but I've just kept it buried in the back of my mind and just taking day to day,  But then when this new ex ray used those words "interstitial disease" everything came flooding back to me.  I will call my onc on Monday.  I went for my yearly mammo yesterday so that was enough to deal with all in itself, just didn;t want to thing about progression to lung possibilities.

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    Barb

  • Granuaile
    Granuaile Member Posts: 113
    edited February 2012

    Hi Barb: I'm going through exactly the same thing as you. Routine follow up CT came back from Radiology with "possible early lymphangitic spread" and "possible metastasis." A couple of chest lymph nodes were enlarged. I was totally freaked out. Upper left lobe, 3mm nodule (it's been there since my first CT). My husband was crying when he read the report, which prompted me to request a meeting with my onc. He kindly went over my CT with me, and explained why he's not particularly worried. He feels the lung issues were caused by radiation, and may take months to resolve. He said there's no sign at all of any cancer anywhere else, and since I'm still on treatment (Herceptin/Tamoxifen) he thinks it's highly unlikely that I have mets. But we're doing follow up scans anyway, for my peace of mind. I know my mind can play tricks on me!!! Hope this makes you feel better.

  • faithfulheart
    faithfulheart Member Posts: 544
    edited February 2012

    I am so sorry you are dealing with this damn fear of the unknown............... My heart tells me your fine, and look at YATCOMW, she is goin strong!!!!   I just know You are going to be fine. You will be in my prayers barb, I hope thats ok with you............................. You are a strong amazing child of God!!

    Don't forget the power of our minds,  boy have I got myself into some really bad situations in my mind. Our thoughts can make us crazy!  Remember,  there only bad thoughts and unknown fears right now,  they are not your reality at this time.....................Believe they never will be!!!

    HUGS

    Steph

  • Polyana
    Polyana Member Posts: 200
    edited February 2012

    Shanagirl,

    If you don't worry then something is wrong. As long as you worry you are healthy. But having said that, you need to rationalise your thinking, and order stuff in your mind. You worry when you are dam sure something is wrong, but what you are doing right now is anxiety that does you no good. I had a chest X-Ray and the report said Polumonary nodule of 0.5 cm I almost feeaked out, cried, and di all the drama in the world, but it did me no good. You need to calm down, excercise, work on mind therapy and tell yourself you are fine, nothing is wrong with you, smile, laugh instead of crying, pray, let this negative energy of thoughts out of you, and you will be in peace.

    Whatever it is (and I pray it will be nothing serious) we don't have anything in our hands to do, all we can do is get treatment, and pray it works well for us.

    Hugs coming your way

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