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BC WOMEN OF THE WORKING WORLD - UNITE! 

I've noticed a lot of questions about:  working - not working - what should I do - what can I do - who do I contact - can I do it - how did you do it ... etc.  I thought it would be nice to gather in one place to share thoughts, comments, suggestions, experiences, questions, concerns, advice, ideas - All in one WORK thread. 

WORK-Questions, Comments, Thoughts, Concerns, Experiences, Resources

I've been back at work full time since April 2011.  Yup, fresh out of AC chemo, sick as a dog and just starting Taxol treatments...then onto Rads.  Transitioning was/is tough and I would have loved to have been a little more prepared and have somewhere to openly discuss what I was thinking and feeling with women who "get it".

So here's to you - and the super woman that you are ... my purpose is to bring us together, help each other with "work" stuff and bring comfort, knowledge and resources to all who have been through or are going through BC treatment(s) in this working world.

From:  The Fuzz ... love/thoughts/hugs always available.

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  • christina0001
    christina0001 Member Posts: 1,491
    edited February 2012

    Good topic. I put in for intermittent FMLA but I'm hoping to not have to use it. I hope others post here about their experiences as I am just in the early stages of treatment.

    I am extremely blessed to have a wonderful boss and awesome coworkers who have been very supportive so far.

  • thefuzzylemon
    thefuzzylemon Member Posts: 2,630
    edited February 2012

    Hello! You are so fortunate to be supported at work! Good for you! Just be good to yourself...use the FMLA when you need to. And, remember...its only good for one calendar year....so its starts again...that's a beautiful thing.

    I took FMLA for 3 straight months last year. May need to do that again for reconstruction. I'd like to thank whoever set that up....

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited February 2012

    fuzzy - thank Bill Clinton!  He did some crazy stuff while he was the President, but he is the FMLA man.

    I was gainfully employed full-time in Transfusion Services in the hospital where I had my BMX when I was diagnosed.  I continued to work from dx to BMX which was about 5 weeks.  I had planned to be off until cleared to return which would have been about the start of chemo.  I knew I was having chemo before the BMX because of being Her2+.  I went out on FMLA when I had that first surgery, used my total accrued vacation days, then started using my short term disability, which was a benefit paid for by me.  Unfortunately, I needed complete axillary dissection 5 weeks after the BMX so could not go back to work.  Two weeks later my tissue expander ruptured through the left side, had emergency surgery.  Two weeks later needed skin excision surgery, followed two weeks later by another skin excision and the removal of the left expander.  Needless to say I could not go back to work.  I used all the short term disab and ran out of FMLA, and then switched over to long term disability, which was company paid.  I went into chemo after all those surgeries and could not work, but I had great support from the corporate HQ and they set up an Americans with Disabilities temp accomodation.  This only worked because I did not economically impact my workplace - i.e., they did not have to hire a replacement for me.  They happened to have a group waiting to start active testing at the Transfusion Services Dept. at the VA hospital, but there was a construction delay and they had nowhere for these folks to go - so they all did my job!  Anyway, I returned to work 30 days after chemo ended which was the agreed upon end of the accomodation, but was scheduled again three weeks later to put the left expander back in.  I realized that I was going to have too many doc appts. between weekly fills with the PS, twice weekly physical therapy for my newly acquired lymphedema, and still receiving Herceptin infusions, so I bailed.  I tendered my resignation with a re-hire clause if I chose to go back.  I am fortunate that my boss is also a friend, and my co-workers the absolute best.  I feel like I will probably not return - it is a stressful environment, often chaotic, with critical patients.  After being a patient myself for so long I don't think I want to work in a hospital anymore.  I have exchange surgery in less than 2 weeks, I finished Herceptin last month, so I am at loose ends about working - not sure if I will or not.

  • thefuzzylemon
    thefuzzylemon Member Posts: 2,630
    edited February 2012

    DEAR B. CLINTON...honey, I got a cigar with your name on it! Nice work!

    Oh...tell me I'm not the only one laughing at my tacky, simple humor!!

    Dang Special!!! That's a whole lotta "human arts & crafts"! Cut & Paste....ya know??

    I learned that I could be happy, healthy and productive when I took the 3 months...I've basically worked full time since I was 14 years old. Never sat still..learned a lot about The Fuzz....LOL

    Oh dear....here comes Med Fairy...she just made me go cross eyed and whispered in my ear "you're done...now sleep."

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited February 2012

    fuzzy - you are cracking me up - always!  And yes I often feel like it is the movie "Groundhog Day" in the operating room!  I knew it was problematic when the adjunct staff would cruise by and then stop, recognize me, and say "hey, I know you..."  You never want to be operated on so frequently that it becomes routine!

  • Kadia
    Kadia Member Posts: 314
    edited February 2012

    Liking this thread. Am currently in my 2nd round of short-term disability (1st for lumpectomy, 2nd for UMX). Will need to take more SDI for TE replacement, and then probably some for chemo. Since I work less than full time, I am not eligible for FMLA or the California version of it. I'm hoping SDI will get me through all of this, otherwise, I will have to request an unpaid leave of absence from my job. They would probably grant me one, but it would be tricky financially. I'm luckier than most with my benefits, but it still feels tenuous sometimes....

  • chrissilini
    chrissilini Member Posts: 313
    edited February 2012

    How about this one...I work in a hospital, 3rd shift, by myself, doing CT's. I had my bmx with te's on Dec 8th. Had anticipated being out 6 weeks but actually went back to work in 4, no restrictions. I did start back on 1st shift for 2 weeks then back to 3rd. I used the FMLA, short term disability and my earned time. Everyone was thrilled and surprised that I was back so soon. Funny how things change after a while.

    I informed my supervisor that I would need another surgery for recon but I wasn't sure when. He asked if I had a ballpark date and I said in a few months. How was I to know exactly? There are no definites with bc.

    I had an appointment with my PS Monday. It's a go for exchange and surgery is scheduled for Mar 15. I let my supervisor know yesterday and his reaction was, "that's a really bad time, can you change it? Someone is on vacation that week, do you think you could move your date by a few weeks? Is that the only date they gave you?" I was completely shocked, p'd off and hurt. I went home and cried. Honestly, am I asking too much? Do I really need to plan my treatment around my co-workers' schedules?

    I think they all thought that since I came back to work everything is all fine and dandy. The cancer was removed and it's all over, no worries anymore. Someone suggested I put my foot....on his chest (I have somewhere different in mind) and ask him how that feels and whether he could live with it for a few more months.

    It seems the compassion and concern are short lived. I'm not looking for sympathy from my co-workers but a little compassion would be ok. I know I'm not the center of the universe, but I am the center of my world right now. Some people just suck.

    Oh yah, and I'm sick of being compared to another woman in my department that had implants put in for cosmetic reasons (she wanted bigger cleavage) How dare they think what I'm going through is the same. What hurts the most is that a co-worker that has been very supportive of me, even before bc, is the one that thinks the exchange is no big deal and actually easier than what the cleavage chick had done.

  • Kadia
    Kadia Member Posts: 314
    edited February 2012
    chrissilini--that's really outrageous. It is remarkable how people think the reconstruction is just like it is with cosmetic procedures (although I admit I thought the same way prior to learning about BC Embarassed)
  • cookie97
    cookie97 Member Posts: 908
    edited February 2012

    Some people are insensitive slugs!!

    This is a great idea; wish I'd have thought of it.

    I went through the whole testing phase of BC in March of 2010; missed a lot of days then. Between biopsies, scans, port placement and countless doc's appointments. Haven't had any surgeries as I was dx'd stage VI from the get go. Anyway I didn't and still haven't taken any significant time off from work. I don't work on treatment days, which I do on Friday's so I have the week end to feel miserable. My work isn't terribly physical and I really need my insurance so I suck it up most days and drag my tired butt out of bed and suffer with messy house.

    When I was frist dx'd one of my co-workers wanted to donate sick time that he had accrued, area supervisor told that our company doesn't do that and didn't want to start it now. I was like WTH!! pretty angry about that then, over it now.

    A little more compassion in the work place would be great, I too don't want the long sad face but this is not a cold and it is not going away.

    Thanks Fuzz for bringing this topic up.

    Peace and Love,

    Edie

  • cookie97
    cookie97 Member Posts: 908
    edited February 2012

    Oh yeah, just added ya'll to my faves, be checking in often.

    Edie

  • amontro
    amontro Member Posts: 504
    edited February 2012

    I've been Stage IV w/mets for 3 1/2 yrs now, still working full time. About two years ago, the company had us take one day off a week without pay while the economy was down. I took my usual treatment day off, but I never resumed working that day when they reinstated it. It's not really a day off for me; it's doctors' appointments day.  I usually have a full schedule on that day every week.

    I'm tired of working just to pay the mortgage and associated bills. I want to retire so badly. I'm over the hill and I deserve it. I'm now looking into selling  my small place (I'll get little for it, but I have a small amount saved) and move into a small rental, just so I can relax and breath for the rest of my life.

  • thefuzzylemon
    thefuzzylemon Member Posts: 2,630
    edited February 2012

    Amontro....live your dream sweetie. 

    This whole "working" thing just isn't what it was - oooh, about a year and one month ago. 

    I took a sick day yesterday...did not feel well.  All I said was "Don't feel well.  Will need to use a sick day.  Thank you."  It's so difficult to explain!

  • TwoHobbies
    TwoHobbies Member Posts: 2,118
    edited February 2012

    Good idea, Fuzzy.  I work and I don't hear a lot of women mentioning working or if they do, it seems they are glad to get back to work, and I think what is wrong with me that I don't really want to be there.  I used to like my job a lot, but now I find the longer I'm back the less I want to be there.  I am feeling very detached.  I wonder if this will change. 

    I have contemplated maybe I could be the person that totally changes their life after breast cancer but I'm too tired to formulate a plan!  Being the main breadwinner and the holder of the health insurance limits current options. 

    Chrissilini, I'm sorry about your situation.  It's a good lesson for all that there's a lot of sympathy at the beginning but I do think co-workers think its all water under the bridge very shortly.  

  • christina0001
    christina0001 Member Posts: 1,491
    edited February 2012

    Having a hard time focusing at work. Too much on my mind. Reading some of the stories here about insensitive coworkers burns me up. What is wrong with people?

  • Kadia
    Kadia Member Posts: 314
    edited February 2012

    TwoHobbies, I'm with you. I'd be really interested in changing careers, but our family needs the money I bring in and especially the health insurance. I'm also fortunate enough to have an actual pension plan, and cannot imagine ever walking away from it. Where I work, we call it "the golden handcuffs."

  • libraylil
    libraylil Member Posts: 528
    edited February 2012

    Like Christine I had a great principal and supportive group of co workers. Chemo on Thursday's, took the day then back at work on Friday. This was right for me. I am an elementary school librarian. My coworkers cooked for me and gave me gift cards for meals during chemo and after I returned from surgery. I took 5 weeks after the lumpectomy and margin re excision. Worked through rads as my dr is 5 minutes from work. I lefta few minutes early on rad days. The students knew I had cancer and I talked to them about how it was very important for them to cough into their arm, use hand sanitizer, etc. My immune system weathered it well until about tx 3. Sore throat and cold but nothing major. This kept me busy and my mine thinking of cancer only every nanosecond.

  • TwoHobbies
    TwoHobbies Member Posts: 2,118
    edited February 2012

    Kadia, "The golden handcuffs" , love it!  I wouldn't go so far as to call mine golden but have stagnated for similar reasons.  Good commute, decent pay and benefits, two years away from 4 weeks vacation.  Could be worse I keep telling myself.  But some days, many days that's no longer enough.  

    Christina I could not focus when I was at that early stage at all.  When I got my surgery plan in place, then I could concentrate a little better.

  • mammalou
    mammalou Member Posts: 823
    edited February 2012

    I am a teacher and went back to work 2 days after Rads.  I was new to my school when BC was diagnosed, so I feel really isolated.  I don't talk to many people at work about it and thus I feel like I live a double life sometimes.  Some days, I feel like I have to go to work and go into robot mode to get through the day.  Little do they know how many times a day I think about breast cancer and break out into hot flashes.  Sometimes it feels very lonely.

  • libraylil
    libraylil Member Posts: 528
    edited February 2012

    Mammalou. That really steams me. You need support at work. Wish you were a member of our staff.

  • mammalou
    mammalou Member Posts: 823
    edited February 2012

    It is hard.  I was involuntarily transferred due to budget cuts from a school I loved and devoted my life to.  Then 1/2 way into the new year I was diagnosed and took the rest of the year off.  Now I'm back.  The people are very nice, so it is not their fault, it's just that we never bonded prior to me being diagnosed. Leaving my old school was devastating and then BC.  Hasn't been a good 2 years.

  • profbee
    profbee Member Posts: 858
    edited February 2012

    I'm working!  I started chemo in April, finished out the school year through the end of May (bald), had the summer off, and then took off the fall semester (BMX was at the end of August and then I did more chemo into November).  So, I took off a semester.  I had to get back, or it would have been a switch to long-term disability which is only 2/3 of my pay.  I couldn't afford that!  Thankfully, my job is not physically taxing like others, but I am so tired all the time.  Every week I feel like I just get done all I need to before it starts all over again.  So, I'm getting by.  I'm happy to spend some time as "me" again instead of just "cancer patient," but I wish my son's kindergarten was full day!  I need some more sleep!

  • lifechanging2011
    lifechanging2011 Member Posts: 48
    edited February 2012

    Hi all,

    I, too, am a teacher. My colleagues have been very supportive. I've had many offers to help or cook or make copies or cover my class if I needed a few minutes. I am very appreciative. I am very independent and find it hard to ask for the help when I actually need it. I was grateful when teachers just started showing up at my door and told me that they were doing my morning duty, no argument.I had a lumpectomy 12/27 and  I have completed 17 out of 33 rads. I'm red, sore, and fatigued.

     I don't bring the subject up at work, but if someone approaches me I have no problem talking about it. The rumor mill runs fast so I think everyone knew since my diagnosis in December.

    What is FMLA?

  • profbee
    profbee Member Posts: 858
    edited February 2012

    Family Medical Leave Act  :) 

    My colleagues were awesome...even set up a website to sign up to bring my family a meal each day of my chemo treatments.  :)  I was told by a good friend, "You SUCK at asking for help."  So, I heard that echo a lot during my treatment and after.  I've gotten much better at accepting help.  

  • thefuzzylemon
    thefuzzylemon Member Posts: 2,630
    edited February 2012

    GOLDEN HANDCUFFS!!!  That's a really good name for that!

    I too have the health insurance, one DD in private college, one going this fall.  It's a terrible reason to be trapped ... but, there isn't an insurance worth having that will even consider me for 5 years.  THAT"S CRAP!  I get so pissed about the people who have health "concerns" that are covered just fine...they are no less dangerous to the system than I am.  They never asked if I was an alcholic....severly overweight....asthma...like smokin' dope...have road rage...inhale gas fumes...nope. 

    If you are salaried...you may want to research Safe Harbor FLSA:

    To understand the Safe Harbor provisions and why every employer should implement a written Safe Harbor policy, a quick review of the "salary basis" test is necessary. To be exempt from overtime, an employee must be performing duties recognized as exempt under the FLSA and must be paid on a "salary basis." Generally, this means that the employee is paid a pre-determined, set amount every pay period. This amount, or salary, cannot be reduced because of variations in the employee's quality or quantity of work. Also, with few exceptions, an exempt employee must receive that full salary for any week in which the employee performs any work. Employers can destroy the exempt status of their exempt employees if they make improper deductions from those employees' paychecks. When an employee's exempt status is lost in such cases, an employer can face substantial overtime liability because the employee must then be treated as non-exempt and is eligible for overtime payments for the preceding two (and in some cases, three) years.

    This is from Nixon Peabody ... but there are plenty of sites that explain this ... Enjoy!

  • lifechanging2011
    lifechanging2011 Member Posts: 48
    edited February 2012

    Thank you. I thought the Family Medical Leave Act was taking time from work to take care of family, not taking time off to take care of oneself. What makes one eligible for that?

  • thefuzzylemon
    thefuzzylemon Member Posts: 2,630
    edited February 2012

    You can access all of the information on the website for FMLA, the EEOC or ADA. You're employer may have the forms for you as well...unless you can just access them yourself. It would be in the Employee Policies under Benefits and Time Off.

    Your doctor will need to provide the information to justify the paid FMLA and you will have forms as well. Its simple and well worth it. Just make sure you know your responsibilities while on FMLA (updates to employer, medical document received, etc).

  • thefuzzylemon
    thefuzzylemon Member Posts: 2,630
    edited February 2012

    Oops. Sorry.

    You are eligible for many reasons...cancer treatments/surgeries/healing....you may need to adjust to medications, have concentration issues, etc. You get up to 3 months in a calendar year.

    You can start as early as Tuesday if you can get the paper stuff done!

  • thefuzzylemon
    thefuzzylemon Member Posts: 2,630
    edited February 2012

    TWOHOBBIES: Im totally picking up what you're throwing down...I really don't need "going to work" as a back to normal....there wasn't anything NORMAL about it.

  • TwoHobbies
    TwoHobbies Member Posts: 2,118
    edited February 2012

    "Normal" is so boring!

  • amontro
    amontro Member Posts: 504
    edited February 2012

    I found an inexpensive small rental and I'm signing for it on Saturday. I'm selling my place and asking SO to leave to get his own even though it's going to break my heart.

    I get tired when I'm working, but I could use the money. HOWEVER, my new place is by the beach (I can see it from my deck) and I'd love to spend the summer and even the rest of my life just doing nothing.  Especially when the rest of my life could be any time now.

    Thursday I'm getting the results of a MUGA that I had yesterday and I'm so afraid that my treatment will have to change and the new one will debilitate me.

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