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  • FLislander
    FLislander Member Posts: 243
    edited February 2012

    Hi guys I'll put my daily thing on here for whoever wants to try, I'm on third taxol and not too much nueropathy so far. I mix 2 glutamine caps and acidophilus in yogurt smoothie. Then I take b complex vitamin and acetyl l carnitine once a day. Hope it helps!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    mmm - yikes!  So sorry to hear this!  I know you were looking forward to a little relief in finishing Taxol.  This sucks!  Hope you're back home soon.

    Phyllis

    p.s.  I start FAC this afternoon.  I might take a lorazepam today!  (my girlfriend and I call them nervy-dervies, so I had to look up the real name)

  • FLislander
    FLislander Member Posts: 243
    edited February 2012

    I'm also drinking fruit zinger herb teas with lime or lemon probably half gallon at least to flush. Tastes pretty good with no sugar

  • MiniMacsMom
    MiniMacsMom Member Posts: 595
    edited February 2012

    My weekly taxol is 150mg high dose. Or u can get 80mg low dose. I belive taxol x3 is 225mg.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    Devastated.

     No tx today. My ANC# was .9.  I'm delayed now by one more week.  Instead of tx I got an extra week added to my schedule and a neupogen shot, with one tomorrow and another on Friday.

    I cried for a long time.  My onc. said this wasn't that common--my bone marrow not recovering, but she assured me there isn't some other kind of seconary cancer going on.  She said that from now on I'll be getting neupogen every week after chemo so I can finish up these last five.

    My dear hubby tried to help me look on the positive side saying that the chemo is workng really strongly, taking out my white cells but getting the baddies too.

    I can only feel bleak and absolutely discouraged by this.  I feel like this is never going to end and quite frankly asked myself right after the nurse told me--why am I doing this at all?

    Anyway. Too down to write more right now.

    C

  • kelleysgroi
    kelleysgroi Member Posts: 227
    edited February 2012

    Claire-   I am so sorry you are struggling right now.  I understand how hard it is to stay positive! You are doing this so that you can enjoy many mnay years cancer free. please hang in there!

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2012

    Claire I know how disappointing it is to have a delay in treatment. Please take the time to rest and let your body recover and strengthen.



    Prayers and good thoughts,



    Laura

  • shore1
    shore1 Member Posts: 739
    edited February 2012

    Sorry to hear about your delay, Claire. I know its discouraging, but hang in there. You can do it.

  • sidekick
    sidekick Member Posts: 19
    edited February 2012

    For mouth sores, I used Ora Gel several times a day. I had a couple of annoying sores after 2nd tx but none afer 3rd tx.  Yahoo!!!!

       I teach 2nd grade and my students certainly have learned  a lot this year about cancer. They have been so sweet and kind, asking some of the funniest questions about my wig and some of the meds/remedies I use to help with SEs.  I try not to take meds too often unless I go into our classroom bathroom but they sometimes see me putting the ora jel on or taking some of the Biotene.  I have a boppy pillow in my classroom that I prop my feet on when I get tired.  We sit at the front of the classroom often, myfeet  propped up on the Boppy, reading to them or teaching a lesson!!  It's really tough for me to have to do this.  Not very good at sitting down and teaching!!

    I wish I had gotten on this site sooner.  I have read some great tips about SEs that I could have tried. I have been very blessed and fortunate to have been able to keep working.    All of you are very courageous!!!   God will see you through!!!

    Carlynn

  • sidekick
    sidekick Member Posts: 19
    edited February 2012

    FL islander,

     Are you making the teas or buying them?  I'm finding out some good SE remedies after the factof my Taxotere treatments. Tomorrow is my LAST one!!!!

  • kelleysgroi
    kelleysgroi Member Posts: 227
    edited February 2012

    sidekick- congrats on your last treatment! Mine was today..it is hard to believe it!

  • FLislander
    FLislander Member Posts: 243
    edited February 2012

    The box celestial tea I make enough for a pitcher and drink or put in water bottles to go. It has really helped with urinary pain and liver kidney pain. Had elevated liver enzymes 2 weeks ago and 2 of them came back to normal range and alkaline phosphate dropped a lot almost normal. I have been drinking ALOT though

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    MMM, my Taxol dose was 185 mg.  But I'm a big girl!  :)

    Phyllis

  • faithhopenluv
    faithhopenluv Member Posts: 323
    edited February 2012

    Hi all taxol experts - if I could add another question. I'm 1/2 way thru AC and am wondering how long a DD taxol infusion takes? Thanks!

  • Kim137
    Kim137 Member Posts: 183
    edited February 2012

    Faithhopenluv, it all depends on the amount you're given (which is based on your weight) and the drip rate your nurse uses. I get DD taxol every 2 weeks. My first infusion lasted 5 hours from start to finish, each one since has lasted 3.5 hours from the start of pre-meds to the end of the taxol drip.

  • faithhopenluv
    faithhopenluv Member Posts: 323
    edited February 2012

    Thanks Kim137 :).

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited February 2012

    I did DD Taxol last summer.  I had an hour of IV pre-meds and hydration (benedryl, Pepcid and Aloxi) then my Taxol infusion was 3 hours.  It's done slowly to avoid an allergic reaction.  The dose is somewhat dependent on your weight, I was about 123.

    I had elevated liver enzymes before my second Taxol treatment but they returned to normal before the third treatment.  FLislander's point about drinking plenty of fluids is right on.  I tried to drink 96 ounces every single day from the day before my first AC treatment until I was well past my last Taxol treatment.  That included soups, juicy fruits and veggies, popsicles, whatever...

    I didn't get neuropathy - I took Acetyl L-Carnitine, L Glutamine, and Vit B6 specifically for that purpose.  I took a pre-natal vitamin to help support my red blood cells - I found one with lots of folic acid and iron.  And I took generic pepcid every day to relieve the heartburn.

    Hang in there, it will be over before you know it.  (((Hugs))) to all.

  • faithhopenluv
    faithhopenluv Member Posts: 323
    edited February 2012

    Thanks LuvRving - I am drinking a ton of water, to the point where I asked my MO to tell me out loud that drinking too much water will not lessen the effects of chemo.  My first AC went pretty well, I'm not taking anything for granted but at least one of eight was very mild.

  • MiniMacsMom
    MiniMacsMom Member Posts: 595
    edited February 2012

    Just an update: officially no uti, still dont know whats wrong but the docs dont think its taxol related. Though they did say the steroids and lowered counts can make you more susceptible to utis so watch the wiping :-)



    Phgraham, we r going to back to our same routine. The hospital hasnt let me out yet so im going to be further behind u. Keep posting how ur doingon the fac forum :-) hugs

  • Andimom03
    Andimom03 Member Posts: 162
    edited February 2012

    faithhopenluv, my first Taxol was the same - about 5 hours - and I'm told it will be shorter from here on out.

    Claireinaz, so sorry to hear about your delay. I had one last week too. But, my doc said it is NOT uncommon...what we are doing to our bodies is harsh. I get the Neulasta shot each time the day after. I am praying I don't have another setback. 

    I'm glad to be rid of some of the annoying SEs from AC, but am starting with leg and ankle pain. Not neuropathy, but just achy, especially when I walk. Feels like my feet are out of joint or something!  Any one else have this?

    Nice to touch base here...I know some of these names from another topic, so HI!  And thanks for your input...

  • faithhopenluv
    faithhopenluv Member Posts: 323
    edited February 2012

    Thanks everyone!

  • bethu77
    bethu77 Member Posts: 320
    edited February 2012
    Claire--I too had to delay for one more week. I was devastated but my last treatment is 2/21 instead of 2/14. I am almost there and you will be too. I understand how you feel. I cried for a long time and everyone told me to rest and take it easy. So, rest and take it easy but also cry a little if you need to cry. Hugs to you!
  • Bonseye
    Bonseye Member Posts: 193
    edited February 2012

    I had my 5 th Taxol today and so far no neuropathy..taking Vit B and Glutamine...so far so good. I have to say that I cried horribly on Monday...I had a tissue expander removed due to a staph infection...now i have to have a TRAM flap. I am a nervous wreck! Not a choice...something I have to do as I am young and don't want a constant reminder of my cancer by being without a breast......what a road to travel. Surgery, Chemo, Major Surgery and then 5 plus weeks of radiation. I had to get over the crying this week and know being cancer free is the most important and going on with my life happy. Happy would not be having to look in the mirror each day with my "cancer reminder" of no boob. So I move forward...look for the good in the TRAM flap....tummy tuck! I have lost so much weight through this but have enough and will embrace getting through this chapter when it comes. 7 more taxols to go...getting good at drawing on my eyebrows and really-no one can really tell.....may we all find strength during these difficult days.....

  • PCBarbie66
    PCBarbie66 Member Posts: 84
    edited February 2012

    Howdy Everyone, I've been trying to catch up one your board as this is my first visit.

    I am getting ready for the 12wks of Taxol, as I just final 4AC yesterday with The Nuelastra shot tonight and am not really looking forward to the Taxol to come. I was hoping it would be smoother than the AC, but it looks like most are having pretty good side effect so far. I see some are still working good sign! Some are having a terrible time of it and I am hoping for you all, this improves!

    Are any of you on Lyrica? I am as of 2 weeks ago from a rare side effect of the AC, my body/or something in me started to react to the AC and turned on my nervous system, feels like fire out the finger tips, with a slight buzzing/electrical feeling than runs down the fingers palm side only. Arms have an electric current running though them. The Lyrica shut off the arms but only with an extra dose, as they would turn back on 8 hours into the 12 hour pill...and just the finger tips remain sensitive, now.
    What does your Neuropathy feel like?? I have never had Pins and Needles, nor numbing at all. Just really concerned, and hoping for some insight from you. My doc does not want to proceed with the Taxol till the new blood work is in (which will take longer than 2 weeks), as this is an "Extremely Rare side effect, but not unheard of‘. Loved hearing that comment just before the final AC was administered.

    Well just wanted to check in...good and restful dreams for you all tonight, as you can see I can't sleep yet
    Barb

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    Dear Beth, Andiemom and the rest of you who gave me encouragement-

    On wednesday I felt like  another mile had been added to my ultra-marathon.   I am SO weary, not physically, just emotionally.  It helps to know that both of you had delays too and somehow found a way through it.  

    On the positive, my hubby keeps telling me if it's taking out my white cells it's killing the baddies really well too.  I like to believe that.

    At least my hair is growing in--pretty dramatically.  And I met with my surgeon again, the one who did my lumpectomy, and my plastic surgeon who I know from other issues, and I forgot how much I like them. They are WONDERFUL guys and my p.s. says I can stay small and don't have to have frankenboob surgery with a lat flap.  He just returned from a conference about reconstruc. and there are some wonderful new cutting edge (pun intended) techniques that make reconstruction so much easier now.  He's done about 700 rebuilds, and has worked with my gen. surgeon for years, so I'm really happy that he'll be taking care of me when I get to BMX/recon.

    I have to wait 9 months after rads for the above, but that's okay.  My PS also told me about a woman he's working with who had all 53 nodes removed and 50 of  them were positive, and it was quite a while ago and she's doing great. So he had a good story to lift my spirits.

    I hope the three neupogen shots work.  I'm trying not to have expectations or make plans for chemo's end yet, since it seems to be somewhat of a moveable date for me.

    Love to you all

    Claire

  • kelleysgroi
    kelleysgroi Member Posts: 227
    edited February 2012

    Andimom03- that is exactly how my legs feel..achy knees, ankles, some in my elbows..jello legs like a ran a marathon..last a couple of days.

    Claire-Beth- so sorry you are delayed and struggling..I'm thinking of you and hoping the time passes quickly

    PCBarbie66- seems a common side effect for most of us is an emotional factor..taxol threw me for a loop mentally..the physical side effects for me at least were minor..Best of luck..praying you will have an easy time 

  • Andimom03
    Andimom03 Member Posts: 162
    edited February 2012

    Hello all. My legs from the hips down still hurt and I hope it dissipates by tomorrow. Doc said it should only last a few days. I had to sleep with a heating pad across my knees and use Percoset to sleep. 1 down, 3 to go!  Hope it gets easier each time and not harder. I am so glad to be relieved of some of the other AC SE's. They were a hassle.

    I'm also eager to keep moving on and hope for another clean blood test to keep the pace. We will see.

    And, kelleysgroi, the whole thing throws me for a loop many days. Sometimes we slow down long enough to think about things, and realize the journey we are on...and, wow. But we are on it, and doing okay and making it one day at a time.

    Here's to a good night's sleep for everyone, encouragement all around, and a big hug from here in PA. (Just not too tight! My expanders are in the way!  :D )

  • bayareamom
    bayareamom Member Posts: 61
    edited February 2012

    Claire-I can relate to delays. I did AC every two weeks and planned in doing taxol every other week as well. But after my last two AC treatments I developed neutropenic fever and ended up on antibiotics. My white blood count never had time to get high enough before the next treatment even with neupogen. So for the taxol, my onc insisted I do them every three weeks. Really bummed be out because instead if takaing eight weeks for the four treatments it will take twelve. But I hated getting sick so much- bing in bed for days on end. I guess a few extra weeks won't mean much in the long run. But it did make me cry when she told me Hope you are feeling better about the delay.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    Hi bayareamom,

    The frustrating thing about delay is that I never got sick..no fever, nothing.  I felt fine (except some fatigue--chemo or low WBC? No telling).  I'm now fearful that tx will have to be stopped--I know I'm worse-case scenario-ing it all.  Or that it will add another month to my tx, like you.

    I was almost to the point of being cavalier about driving to my tx each week. Now i'm back to being terribly apprehensive since I don't know what my WBC will be from now on. Hopefully three neupogen shots will help and weekly ones will help even more.

    Good luck to you too!

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2012

    Hi ladies, congratulations to those of you who are finished!



    I am just at the beginning of the taxol journey, have had 2 of 12, #12 seems so very far away right now. One day at a time right?



    I wanted to ask if anyone has experienced bone pain not only in joints, legs, but in and around sinuses? Sore throat or burning mouth?



    Kelly you mentioned the emotional factor too. That has been difficult along with the fatigue.



    Anyone taking L-carnitine and what dose?



    Love and prayers ladies as we continue together.



    Laura

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