January 2012 chemo

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  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited February 2012

    waitress169,

    good luck with , my turn next week.

    bela 

  • riceandbean
    riceandbean Member Posts: 25
    edited February 2012

    I am praying for all the ladies having tx today.  Hoping you do very well and se's are reduced and minimal!!!  I think a lot of you are well ahead of my "J", so I am going to school on how your tx's are progressing.

    @Lumpynme:  Our driveway had just stopped being a 1/2 mile uphill ice skating rink (from the snowstorm we had before Christmas) this week and then we were dumped on again.  Lots of snow, but we need it as we are on a well.  This is the first year in a long time we have had to dig out the ice cleats just to make it up to the house with the baby in tow.  

    I found some of those ginger chews at Trader Joes yesterday.  They are SPICY!  Picked up some Sea Bands ~ do these things really work?  Can "J" wear them on her left arm (where we had the nodes removed without fear of causing lymphadema (sp)?

    So far "J" is feelin much better than last tx...no crazy headache and facial pain from the Cytox.  She is resting well at home this am...me going into work.

    As far as doing something for myself...not sure when I will have time.  Baby is teething and up at least once an hour during the night...oragel and rocking in the glider seem like the only relief for him. If I can find a spare minute or so to post here or go play my guitar in the man cave that is reward enough.  I am going hardcore at this thing until we are through the other side!  If you ladies and my "J" can stomach the poo you are having to deal with I can certainly work hard enough to match!

  • riceandbean
    riceandbean Member Posts: 25
    edited February 2012

    oh and speaking of being on a shared well...is anyone else here in a similar situation...have advice about peeing pink chemo poison into your ceptic?  how to treat...precautions to take? 

    our neighbors are so amazing...came home last night to find our driveway plowed of snow all the way to the front door!!!  I want to make sure we are not messing up the well and ceptic with chemo #1 and #2.

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited February 2012

    riceandbeans,

    Thats normal.dont worry

    bela 

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    riceandbean - you sound an awful lot like my DH....J is a lucky woman to have you taking such good care of her.  God bless you!

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited February 2012

    There are so many of you having treatment today and tomorrow. I will carry you all in my warm, healing thoughts these next few days!!

    Thanks to all you responded to my "is anyone else having these SE's". I feel better when I come to this group and knowing I am not alone. Thnak you all for that..

    HUGS!!!

    Brooke

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited February 2012

    Brooke,

    Hugs back to you.

    Bela 

  • miniwheat
    miniwheat Member Posts: 52
    edited February 2012

    Sorry ladies, time to vent.

     last week-end I came home from a lovely evening with my girlfriends to find that my son had been vomiting all night.  As this was 10 days since my first treatment, the oncology nurse suggested I get away until my son got better... 

    My son is only five so the thought of leaving him while he was sick was terrible, but my loving husband stayed home and nursed him back to health.

    So I stayed away for 2 days, came back home to a smiling and happy little boy.  However the next day, I've got the stomach flu!  I spent all day yesterday curled up in the fetal position in bed.  Thinking to myself and repeating to myself: "are you kidding me!" 

    I feel a bit better today, still a little queasy.  Anyhow, I'm just uspet, disgusted and plain, pissed off, since the chemo SE were so horrific for me as with many of us, I was feeling pretty normal and then BAM!  take that!!  ... and Monday I get to look forward to starting all over again.

    Sorry, I am not giving up or anything and I know this will someday be a thing of the past, but SHEASh!  Enough is enough already!  : )

    My heart goes out to each and every one of you ladies.

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited February 2012

    Oh Miniwhaet,

    I am glad your son is better, and I know its hard. We all are in same boat.

    VENT AWAY.

    I hope you are better fast and done soon and free of cancer

    Hugs

    Bela 

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited February 2012

    Miniwheat

    I am so sorry you are having to deal with all this.  I know EXACTLY how you feel. My kiddos are 4 years and 19 months, go to preschool and daycare. I feel like the past 6 weeks of my chemo I have seen them so little as one of them is usually sick and I am keeping my distance. Winter for kids is like sickness hell here and we all seem to pass it around. I too have broken down and feel like I just cannot take much more. Being chemo sick and then stomach flu sick just plain rots....

    Be kind to yourself and know that you are not alone.

  • miniwheat
    miniwheat Member Posts: 52
    edited February 2012

    Thank you Bela, I appreciate that.

     Hugs to you too!

  • grateful33
    grateful33 Member Posts: 58
    edited February 2012

    Hello everyone

    Good luck to everyone having treatments today. I am also going for AC#3 today.  ot looking forward to it as I hear it is a tough one. I pray for all of us to have minimal side effects! 

    I have caught up on all the posts over the last 2 days. As soon as I reached that sweet spot between treatments I caught my DH's bad cold (He's so wonderful he had even been sleeping on the sofa so as not to infect me.  Unfortunately yesterday I recieved some bad news. Seems like on my pathology review the tissue was filled for with lymphatic invasion and I will be going back for UMX and reconstruction after chemo and before rads. Sigh. Just as I was healing from my ALND and partial mastectomy done mid Dec. I know this is a good thing in the long run but it makes it harder to see 'the end'. I gues I should just concentrate on getting through chemo at this stage...

    Miniwheat- hugs to you!

    Good luck everyone. You are always in my thoughts.

  • miniwheat
    miniwheat Member Posts: 52
    edited February 2012

    Thank you Momof2 and grateful,  big hugs to you too.

    It's makes me sad to know that others are going through this, but in the same breath it's comforting to know I'm not alone.

    I have so much respect for everyone here.

  • Lumpynme
    Lumpynme Member Posts: 747
    edited February 2012

    riceandbean;you are a wonderful man...enjoy the teething time- i know it's hard however it's a good bond...to me there is nothing better than holding a baby, swaddling them and loving them...i miss that!!! "J" is alucky girl....

    about the pink pee and the well- ok so it's going into a septic right ? it shouldn't backwash into your well...i truly have no clue about that but it's a valid concern....still toxic no matter where it goes! as for the snow and the well- i hear ya!

    oh-lucky you to have trader joe's! we don't....anything ginger should be good for "J" for the queasies... i don't know about the sea bands.

  • Lumpynme
    Lumpynme Member Posts: 747
    edited February 2012

    miniwheat; gosh...that sucks!

    my own kids and grands have been battling a flu bug and tonite my son calls to invite hubby and me out to dinner tomorrow nite with his two kids who have been passing it around--and his wife is sick today again....i begged off!  depending on how things play out i may skip church again..tho i feel like i should show my face since the ladies made that prayer shawl for me!

    hugs

  • PCBarbie66
    PCBarbie66 Member Posts: 84
    edited February 2012

    Well I am done with the 4th and final AC, we both fell asleep in our chairs and never even heard the beeper telling us we were finished and no Ativan...Were home now and hubby is picking me up pizza...starving!! All is good so far, slight steroid buzz, really tired too. I wasn't nervous as much as resigned to getting this over and being solidly ½ way through "Barbs Big adventure, take two".

    I met my Neurologist this morning for a very long discussion & exam. He states that it is extremely rare to have the Issue I have in my Fingers/hands and Arms and now maybe my feet, but it is not unheard of. We are going to do an MRI of my neck to rule out a pinched nerve, which would give me the fingers 1st and then the arms...my feet which only happened 4 days ago could be unrelated as they are calming down and it is just a slight buzzing on the feet, where the arms and hands are like Electricity pulsing threw them and extremely sensitive. He says the AC has nothing in its make up to cause what I have, but as the AC works to kill the BC, Something in my body is having a reaction and causing the Nerve issue (not the AC itself). He is testing for additional cancers other than Breast Cancer, if there is another "different" Cancer then it would fight to survive and attack my nervous system...very very rare but a possibility we must rule out.
    After my MO & Neur Doc. conversed it was decided that my MO does not feel comfortable proceeding with the Taxol without knowing why I have had this reaction. She wants answers and to rule things out at a minimum. The blood work will take more than 2 weeks to get the results back, so the Taxol is on hold till we figure out this issue. I Aced every Neurological test he gave me...so he is stumped and working on it. Hopefully this will only put off the Taxol 1 week and they will find it's a pinched nerve or something nice like that...not more C.

    Hope this made sense starting to really feel the Chemo...hope everyone made it through as good as I did.  Laughing

  • Lumpynme
    Lumpynme Member Posts: 747
    edited February 2012

    PCBarbie66 i'm glad that your docs are working on this issue and taking it seriously.

    pizza sounds good to me tonite! 

    rest..take care...hugs!

  • DonnaDS
    DonnaDS Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2012

    Took my wig to my hairdresser of 30 years today.  She was able to make it look a little more like me.  She also convinced me to do the buzz as I had bare scalp in the back.  I can't believe that is here and that it matters.  Tx#2 on Tuesday.  A word to those stressing about Neulasta shot.  I did not get it after tx#1.  My WBC dropped to .06 which is serious neutopenia.  I ended up getting 3 neutropen? shots and am much better.  All of the shots were in my belly and are painless.  Thats my location of choice, might as well take advantage of the belly fat.  Claritin was also recommended for these injections and I could tell when I forgot it. I will be getting Neulasta on Wed.  Its so good to read all of your posts and hear all of your support.  You have mine as well.  Thinking of you all.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited February 2012

    Yeah Barbie - congrats for being done with the Red Devil!  I hope the neuropathy turns out to be something easily treatable, and not long-lasting.

    miniwheat - I'm so sorry!  We work so hard to get through the chemo crap, then get smacked with our loved ones' crud.  Oh, if only we could hibernate for 4 or 5 months and avoid every germ on the planet, this might be easier!  I'll be thinking about you.

    grateful - I'm sorry to hear about your bad news. It feels like one step forward, one step backwards sometimes.  You mention a UMX - are you considering doing a BMX and getting it out of the way, or is that not an option?  None of my business, I know...I'm interested in how people make these really, really difficult decisions, given how much information we're given (and then how much we're not given) and how things seem to change. If I'm being nosey or inappropriate, I sincerely apologize.

    3rd AC tx today.  Cried before I hit the office - I just didn't want to be there, knowing what was coming for the next 10 days.  3 of the infusions nurses were out with the flu so there were down to two nurses, and even at 7:30 in the morning they were slammed.  Everyone was wonderful as usual, but apparently there was some office politics going on and a couple of the nurses were discussing an unpopular management decision, which just made me wonder how focused they were on us?  Took a little longer than usual because of the reduction in staff.  I simply could not look at the Adriamycin this time; I closed my eyes and did my yoga breathing to calm myself down.  Then I cried again.  Even Ativan didn't touch my anxiety today.  But I know that there is only one more AC left, and everyone tells me the Taxol will be so much easier SE-wise.  

    I'm still just in a period of grieving - for what I've lost, for what I may lose, for the reality of recurrence and mets and, well, other stuff I'm not ready to deal with.  Going to the infusion center feels like hell; the smell, the feel, the taste of the meds - I may never eat another graham cracker again.  And now, for the first time - I'm nauseous.  Damn.  So I'm laying in bed with water and "Chopped" and trying to rest.  Valium will be my best friend tonight.

    Oh, according to my NP - occular migraine not a concern.  Diarrhea is a concern.  They're worried I'm having a flare of my UC, so I need to watch it.  But she also mentioned that my use of Immodium the last couple of days will affect my typical constipation this tx - dang, I can't win for losing. And I've gained a pound (but I'm determined it was my clunky shoes).  :-)

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    Nancy - clunky shoes weigh at least a pound!  Hang in there!

  • waitress169
    waitress169 Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2012

    Got #3 today and for the first time felt some SE this early. Usually they wait till day 3. On the bright side the woman in the chair to my left said she is on # 10 of  12 weekly of taxol and calls it vacation chemo that it is so much easier. She said this week was going tobe like Aruba.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited February 2012

    Kellogs - thanks, I agree!  I've been eating like a horse and can't fathom why I haven't gained a pound, but am really glad I haven't!  My clinical trial director was concerned - she's worried I'm not eating enough ("you should be gaining weight").  I can't explain it.

    waitress169 - that is such GREAT news!  I can't wait to take a cancer vacation to Aruba!

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited February 2012

    I love Aruba!  I'm ready!  Heck, I'd be happy to go to the Jersey Shore right now.  Anywhere far from 'the red devil'!   My last AC tx is tomorrow.  While I dread going, I can't wait to go.

    Annie - I know just how you feel - chemo sick.  There are no words to truly describe the feeling.  I know it is bad.

    PCBarbiw - praying for a pinched nerve!  Wow, never thought I would pray for such a thing!

     Grateful33 - so sorry you have to face more surgery!  What type of reconstruction will you be having?  This BC tx is such a long hard road.  However, if it means living a long healthy life afterwards I guess its what we need to do. 

    Momof2inME, Miniwheat, and Riceandbean - I can't imagine having children so young and dealing with this crap right now.  You are amazing!  Mine are all away at college now, so I just need to take care of myself.  Although, two nights ago I tried to convince my sick daughter to come home. She called me from school to tell me she felt so sick.  She must have had a 24hr virus.  I found myself offering to go pick her up  so that I could take care of her.  Silly me! I caught myself before she could accept and suggested that she just visit the student health center. 

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited February 2012

    Nancy

    So happy for you that treatment #3 is under your belt. So sorry you aren't feeling that great. I have been jealous of your no SE posts and I truly hope it is better for you tomorrow.

    I too have a physical reaction when I go to chemo now. The anticipation of what is to come just plain sucks. I find the smells, noises, the look of everything there is just revolting now. I think you should grieve as long as it takes. I know I am.

    {{{{HUGS}}}}}

    Brooke

  • grateful33
    grateful33 Member Posts: 58
    edited February 2012

    Hello everyone

    Just back from AC#3 now (Late 3:30 appt PST) Waiting for the side effects to kick in

    Waitress and Nancy- Hoping for an easy 2 weeks for both of you. I also cried yesterday with pre treatment anxiety. It is so hard to go back in when you are finally feeling your normal self. But at least we are 75% through AC!  I also find myself grieving the last week or so. So much to absorb and I know when we are done, it does not just go away. Be gentle with yourself Nancy and allow yourself to grieve when you need it. 

    As for the UMX- at this point I am seriously considering a BMX and feeling  a "just take it all out" attitude. But it is such a big decision and I am lost as to what type of recon. I would love some suggestions because I respect all of you so much and feel like we are sisters through this together. Although I am aware this is the 'chemo' thread

    Barbie- congrats on finishing AC. Hopefully the neuropathy resolves itself soon.

    Janetanned- Good luck tomorrow. I will be thinking of you.

    Hugs to all

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited February 2012

    Grateful33..

    I had a BMX and for some reason it was never a choice for me. I just knew instinctively that is what I wanted and needed. It ended up being the right decision for me. They still did a pathology on the right prophylactic side and it came back ADH (atypical ductal hyperplasia) throughtout the breast. ADH is one step below DCIS. More than likely BC would have developed eventually. So for me my "gut" was right.

    Whatever you choose will be the right decision for you. I know it can be difficult so I wish you clarity while you ponder. Also, really hope the nasty SE's stay clear of you.

    Brooke

  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2012

    RiceandBeans - Thank you for your response, it was lovely.  I agree it can be an opportunity for growth and evaluating what is important in life.  Thing have been rough for about a year and aug sept oct period he decided he would rather be a footloose carefree guy going out till 3 in morning than have a family.  We have only been married 3 1/2 year and I made many sacrifices to be with him.......so this  was all devastating.  Then I was diagnosed with BC in October (second time around- but he stuck it out that time-and no chemo) He has come around a lot but he has a long way to go to be classified as a loveing and careing husband (he has glimpses of it) For instance the other night he started a fight with me and when I left to get out of house and pick  up milk he thought I was going to buy cigarettes(which I quit before starting treatment) he said "go buy cigarettes, smoke.....maybe you will go sooner".   He apologized later, over and over but I don't even have words......  Sorry.......had to vent. Anyway your a good man! 

    Chemo today...going to try to switch off taxol to abraxane.  Doctor is worried since I had reaction last week.  They LOADED me with steroid today and I got through the treatment but she does not want to give me the big doses of steroid.  My reds are down slightly and blood sugar is up and liver enzymes are up..she thinks I am getting more SE from steroids and my weekly flu is bad crashing!  If I am weened off it again there is potential for anaphalatic reaction. Its kinda scary.

    I saw pre-tied bandana on girl today that looked very cute....anyone know where to buy????

    Waiting for Anthem approval........):

  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited February 2012

    YeaH!   My liver values are getting down close to normal after only one week on Milk Thistle.  ALT went from 165 to 91 (norm 6-40), AST went back to normal from 38 to 28 (10-35), and ALK PHOS went from 174 to 149 (norm 33-130).    They will check them again next Monday when I go to AC tx #3 but it will be a GO for the full treatment.  

     I had more bone pain this week for 2 days, worse than the first time cycle, even with taking Claritin.  I hope that isn't going to increase each week after tx as I felt like a little old lady hunched over from pain in my back.

  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2012

    HAIR COVER?????

    please anyone....I cant read over all old posts.  I know a bunch of you have order stuff online.....I am looking for pre tied bandana.....can anyone help????

    I found some beautys but 50 bucks a piece???? 15 would be better

  • waitress169
    waitress169 Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2012

    I had the sameproblem. Didn't want to spend alot and somrtimes when ordering online you don't get what you think you are.  Went to the cheappie wig and beauty supply and bought a cute wig for $25. I use it with a hat or scarf to put less wear and tear on my better wig.

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