Questions on Double Masectomy
I had a masectomy on my right side 6 years ago with 2 positive lymph nodes. I am having a masectomy on my left side with some positive lymph nodes but not sure how many yet. My question is where do you have shots, blood taken, iv's, when both arms are compromised. My doctor's office said they will take it from the side that is the oldest. I just don't feel comfortable with that. What did yall do? Thanks! Cancer just sucks!!!
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Hmmm, good question. I wonder if they could use one of your legs to do BP, etc. Any ladies out there or the Mods have an answer??
Sharon
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I had nodes taken on both sides as well but a few years apart. The most recent is where they took many nodes and the first was just a couple. The hospital and doctors refuse to take blood from my leg despite recommendations. So they do the oldest side where fewer nodes were taken. I find it very frustrating. Best wishes
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I heard to demand they take blood from you foot and blood pressure on your leg (calf). I'm fighting the battle now and can't find a lab that will take blood from my foot.
Check with a lymphadema specialist and get it in writing and show your doctor. Maybe he can write an order or only do blood draws on foot at the hospital. -
I had a lumpectomy in rt. breast and then needed surgery on my left upper arm. During that surgery they took bp from ny foot.
Have RA in my hands and went to a hand surgeon about problem with right wrist and he said I either need a wrist replacement or a wrist fusion. Spoke to my bs since I had 6 lymph nodes removed on the right side, He said I CAN have the surgery since "it is so low down on the arm". I have not had the surgery and am postponing it as long as I can for reasons not related to the bc.
Judy
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Sorry you've got to go through this again. Did you try posting on the Lymphedema board? This question comes up frequently there. You can find some old threads with a lot of people's answers. Some people live in places that are much more willing to work with feet and legs than others.
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Butterfly, that's a good question, and I'm really sorry you're in a position to have to ask it.
Still, there are good answers, and I hope you'll get good cooperation on it.
Even though most lymphedema shows up within a couple of years of treatment, it can happen at any time, so the older side is not necessarily better. It depends on a number of factors. Some women want to protect their dominant side (right if you're right-handed) because lymphedema in the dominant arm or hand is naturally harder to deal with and more debilitating than on the non-dominant side. Others use the side with the fewest nodes removed, though there are other factors too that can increase lymphedema risk on either side -- like previous surgeries or trauma, or surgical complications (infection, seroma).
But these are your arms, so it's important to keep in mind that you have something to say about how they're used. You can refuse blood tests, injections, and blood pressure in both arms, if you decide to go that route. In that case they would use your calf for blood pressure, your hip or buttocks for injections, your foot for blood draws, and your foot or neck (sounds worse than it is) for IVs. If you have a history of blood clots, that's a contraindication to the use of your legs, but otherwise it's your call.
To get blood tests done on your foot, the order sheet must have "Draw from foot only" written on it by your doctor's office. If you call a lab and ask if they'll do it they will invariably tell you no, so take the lab sheet with you and just show up, and they'll almost always come up with some way to arrange it for you, even if it's not their "policy."
Judy, you can certainly have surgery on your arm or hand if you need it, but it has nothing to do with how "low down on the arm" it is -- the entire arm is at risk clear to your hand (in fact, that entire quadrant of your body is at risk including your side, chest and back). Here's information about surgery in an arm or chest at risk for lymphedema:
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/Emergencies_and_Medical_Care_lymphedema.htm
Scroll clear down to the bottom of the page for the section on Guidelines for Surgery.We have lots of women dealing with these issue on the Lymphedema board here. Please do feel welcome to come lurk or join the conversation there!
Be well!
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Binney,
Thank you for the info and the link. I will definitely follow those guidelines if I have to have the surgery.
Judy
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I had bilat at time of Dx....BC side was modified radical Mx with axillary dissection (1st layer only)...prophy side was simple Mx.....they use prophy side for blood draws and B/P...I have also had B/P taken on ankles... I've had surgery on both wrists...and on write (BC side twice)...when surgery was on left wrist is when they used legs...
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Had lumpectomy & 5 nodes removed (all negative) in 2004/BMX 2011 & 1 node removed (neg)
Doctor takes BP on my ankles, Blood draws from my oldest arm. Works for me.
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It seems that my doctors and nurses are just not up to date on these things. They take my blood pressure on my wrist because they don't have blood pressure cuffs for arms or legs. They draw blood on my oldest side. They have a hard time getting blood from my port. They look at me funny when I ask if they can draw from my foot and they say they have never done that. I am so worried that I am going to end up with lymphdema before it is all over with. Thanks for the infor Binny4. You had a lot of information. I had 2 positvie out of 16 on my right in 2006 and 3 out of 21 on my most recent in March. I absolutely just hate cancer!!! Taxotere has been horrible for me. Hopefully just two more treatments and then radiation. Will have a pet scan done this fall to check and make sure there are no active sites. Keeping all of you in my prayers.
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