Calling all TNs
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MBJ - Very glad to hear from you and am so sorry your having so much pain. I'm as confused as Titan as well, why no more treatment? I'm praying for you.
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MBJ: So glad to see you back here posting, but am shocked and saddened by what you're going through. I always thought as mets go, bone mets were treatable with surgery,rads, drugs... but I realize everyone's situation is different.... I'm just hoping that there are some options for you...please post again when you're up to it.
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MBJ - My dear, I am very happy to hear from you. I am devastated, just devastated by what I read. Most of your post didn't make sense to me as I read in disbelief, but going to hospice? You? No way! I cannot believe it. I can't imagine why such a drastic change so quickly. Stage IV - bone mets, but that is not a prescription for hospice? Girl, please stay with us, we LOVE you, we NEED you here on the boards with us, giving us your wisdom. God bless you as you go through this horrible period, but he will pull you out of this once more, I bet with you.
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MBJ, I was glad to see you log on, but so sorry to hear about your condition. I hope the next few days bring some positive news for you to share!
OK, TN question for you all - as I understand it, most of us are Grade 3 - very aggressive cancer. Is the notion of us being 3 years past diagnosis as a somewhat "safe" point because 3 years is the amount of time a loose aggressive cancer cell takes to grow from a single cell to a noticeable (and problem causing) tumor? I know my mammo 1.5 years previous to diagnosis showed nothing and then a 1.2 mm tumor grew in the interim. What % of TNs who recur will recur AFTER 3 years - and why?
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minxie - great question!! I can't find information on recurrance rates for us TNers. I had a lumpectomy on 12/9/11 and am in the midst of DD AC and Taxol. I'm negative for the BRCA genes, but still debating on the prophylactic mastectomy. I don't think I could go through this again. I'm ready to just cut 'em off and be done with it!
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Ladies I am just reading this and I am floored. I don't know what to say. We are definitely in need of a team HUG right now.
Correct me if I am wrong but I always thought spread to the Bone was treatable.
Very sadden today.
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I now know the feeling of "there is nothing left we can do for you". I'm thankful the Halavan worked for the 5 weeks. I'm still in shock but I think I pretty much knew last Friday with the pain increasing day by day. I went ahead and got more yesterday even though I knew it had stopped working. I got the nueprogen today too. I knew this time was coming but I still was holding on to hope that that this Halavan would last longer. I can honestly say I've done every chemo there is I guess our time is our time. It's appropriate that it's raining today I feel like the earth is crying over this sad news about MBJ, Suze's lungs being filled with fluid and my news. I got the same talk about hospice but I thought that was for when you couldn't function. I also have heard of other women living with bone mets and I thought it wasn't close to the end unless it had hit vital organs. Please tell me if I'm wrong. MBJ there are also super strong pain meds can't they give these to you? How about some of the chemos? How advanced is it? I know that they can sometimes they can do radiation to try and help with the pain. I'm wishing you the best and as you told me from the beginning get more opinions. Suze I'm thinking about you and have you thought about the metformin? I know it's supposed to be more helpful if it's done in conjunction with chemo. Funny I just got the prescription for it yesterday but since I've now done all the chemos and repeated so many there really are not any chemos for me to choose from. I wish someone could answer my qustion "how long do i have?" Well I'm still kicking, pain meds are working so far. Wish I had better news to share. Looking forward to some sunshine. I was feeling kind of frantic/manic this morning when I woke up with the edema so far advanced and just general overall pain. But I
increased my pain meds and this ice cold beer taste pretty good washing them down. I think I'll take a nap and maybe paint tonight. I hpe you all are having a good day. So glad to have all of you in my life I'm just saddened for the circumstances that brought us all together. -
((((Laurajane)))) (((((Susan))))) (((((MBJ)))))
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Hi everyone- I just finished my 4th of 4 taxol treatments..I finished 4 A/C treatments prior to that so chemo is officially over. I will have my exchange surgery and then have 6 weeks of radiation later in march. I was just reading on Susan G, Komen that triple negative is the most likely to recur and when it does is most likely to have a poor prognosis. I had 1 positive node. I guess what I am looking for is some positive results..some hope from all of my sisters here that have not had a reoccurrence. I am more frightened now than I was when I was diagnosed!!! Thanks everyone
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I don't understand it eiether, Fighter. But once I asked my oncologist, if it did recur, how long the reamining lifespan would be. He said a few years. Then I asked him, but what about these women I hear about with just bone mets, who are alive for 10, 15 years? He said "'they're estrogen positive". And that was that.
I am thinking that maybe if one is TN and has bone mets it's so aggressive it never just stays in the bone?
Whatever it is, it sucks and they need to do something for TNs NOW.
LauraJane, Suze, and MBJ, thinking about you all and so sad and frustrated...
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Kelley- I think most of us have come to the conclusion that cancer is a crapshoot. It follows no rhyme or reason. We've been told that TN is "front loaded" meaning it is more likely to reoccur in the first couple of years, but of course that is not a rule- it can reoccur at any time or never- we just never know. I have recently seen some posts from TNs that are anywhere from 3-7 years out and doing well. I am sure there are many more, they just no longer post as they are out living their lives. I really don't know the statistics on stage IV TN prognosis. I am sure someone else will come along with some info. I wish I could give you more reassurance. We all live in fear, but for some it lessens over time
Laurajane. Suze, MBJ- I am thinking about you all and praying that some good news will come along soon for you.
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good afternoon ladies,
it has been awhile since i've posted and it has taken me awhile (2 1/2 hours) to catch up. I could have just skimmed, but didn't want to miss any good news. well, f**k, i could have gone on forever without reading the bad news! after a fit of tears i am just numb. and now apparently a bit lacking for words. at least any words that don't start with f.......
Suze, LJ and MBJ.....we all want to be able to reach through our computers and pluck you from your pain, but alas all we can do is pray that you get some relief, both physically and mentally. i guess running away is never the best option, but if you guys have a tropical location in mind i will book the trip and pick you up on the way there. love to you all is the best i can muster at the moment.
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Annie, so glad you are doing so well! I think we are all very brave to allow ourselves to be poisoned.
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Suze, MBJ & LJ--- I guess I'm a coward. I just find all this bad news unbearable. I waver between incredulity and sadness, while setting aside my own sense of fear. Words fail me. I'm sorry.
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LJ - I am so sorry, they have run out of options. My heart aches for you. When my girlfriend went in to hospice care, the best part was help came to her. She didn't have to expend her energy going to doctor appointments. If she needed something the nurse requested it and it was sent in right away.
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It is unbearable and we are all so hopeless to help. I am so sorry, MBJ, Laurajane, and Susan.
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TifJ- thank you so much for responding..I guess we just never know in life what will happen..we can only do all we can to stay healthy. I've heard that in time the fear lessens..I hope that is the case for all of us...K
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It's this kind of a day....
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Suze, LJ and MBJ:
I feel as though I am caught in a freaking nightmare that I can't wake from when faced with all three of your situations. I can only imagine the sheer frustration, panic, sadness and fear each of you are going through. My heart is, literally, so heavy I feel I can't stand straight; however, I want each of you to know, if prayers, love and healing thoughts have any power over this disease, with what all of us on this thread are sending each of you, I am going to keep on hoping for miracles.
Love and peace,
Linda
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Oh gosh, ladies! This is horrible news! I'm so sorry. I'm in your neck of the woods, lj, so I'm getting the gloomy cold rain, too. I don't know what to say but that I'm thinking of you all. Please keep us posted, laurajane, MBJ and Suze.
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Mary, LauraJane and Suze - sending you loving peaceful thoughts. So sad to hear the crapshot landed on your squares...it just doesn't make sense....its wrong, wrong, wrong!!! F**ing C**cer.
For the newbies...I'm 16 months from last chemo and still NED !
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Very well said Linda. It is what we are all feeling.
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TifJ:
This is just so unbelievable it's hard to even grasp. I just never imagined that it all could happen this way - there are just no words.......
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Kelly, my first diagnoses was in 12/02 triple neg 2 pos nodes 3.5 cm tumor. I made it until 3/11 until I had a new primary, but don't let that scare you, I have the brca 1 gene. I made it over 8 years without a recurrence, and actually longer if you take away my new primary. I hope that gives you some hope:) I have heard of many triple negs doing fine, but I understand the fear.
MBJ, Suze, LauraJane-I wish I could just take all this crap away for you. I have no wise words of comfort, just please know I am thinking of you all and wishing all the pain would go away.
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I have no words..I'm so pissed off at this damn cancer...
I HATE YOU CANCER!
but I love you ladies.
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I am with Titan! 100%
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Ya know..sometimes I skim around this board..read the alternative thread where they fight like crazy about big pharma and the fda and taking vitamins and all that stuff...
I finally got pissed and told them to come over and read our thread sometime...it's called a reality check...sheesh....
So..I don't think I will be kicked off here because I didn't swear..but if I'm not on here for awhile you know where I am.(or where I'm not)...
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Titan - big hug and calming thoughts your way. We all feel so helpless.
Wishing everyone a brighter tomorrow.. K</p>
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I have trying to write this out for hours, and my darn iPad is slowing me down, deep breaths ladies, and a big group hug. I wish there was someway we could all visit, look tinto each others eyes, and see acceptance and love.
Entering Hospice is NOT the fat lady warming up. Yes, they generally don't expect your life experience to be more then 6 months. If it appears you will happily outlive that, they will move you to Palliative Care.
As everyone has said, hospice is an extremely personal choice. Family can't make it, our children, can't make it - only WE can decide. Be on the receiving end of chemo for life, I can tell you there have been days I wanted to just roll over and forget about it all. I have ALWAYS has a strong work ethic, and drive to be where I needed to be. Going into hospice means a calm shit shift to pain control, comfort, time with your your family, and helping you share in final, joy filled memories,
Hospice is a way of taking control of the situation, and make it the best. They can bring in counselors for your friends and children. -
Suze, let me be the first to tell you that I have always felt you have guided me all along since the day I met you here. Again, you are guiding me with your immense wisdom. You have a mind as bright as the sun. Your mind is so peaceful and organized. I can see that from the way you think things out. What a wonderful way for you to explain to us how you have made your decision about hospice. I truly hope and pray that you are just buying hospice time to take control of the situation, to get some peace for yourself and family, knowing fully well that you will be out of there in 6 months, ready for something new to fight the beast which they have out there by that time. I am praying and wishing with all my heart for a miracle cure for you my dear. God bless you!
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