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  • barsco1963
    barsco1963 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited February 2012

    Welcome Dinarose - Sorry that you are "back in the saddle". Feel free to cry, vent, scream if needed. You will also find that the wonderful support here will have you smiling, laughing and sometimes even blushing.Embarassed  The women here are terrific!

    Best of luck to all who are undergoing tests tomorrow - madpeacock, Kittygirl, Kay1963. Going to be a busy pp day!

  • justmejanis
    justmejanis Member Posts: 1,847
    edited February 2012

    Dinarose....Welcome to the forum.  You will find a wealth of friendship, support, and of course information here.  Never hesitate to ask any question.  We are here to help!

    Claire.....I was really getting worried about you.  You missed a lot of pocket parties, but i totally understand your taking a vacation from BC.  So good to see you again!

    For everyone undergoing procedures...I will always be in your pocket.  Barbe...I am so glad that things went easier for you knowing we were all rallying for you.  You bet you were never alone!

    I finally start LE therapy on Feb. 21st.  This Trucal LE is different and I am not sure what kind of compression garments I may have to wear.  I had to apply for financial assistance for them, there is absolutely no money to pay for them.  Very frustrating but hoping I can get what I need.

    Have a wonderful evening my friends.  Love and hugs all around!

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited February 2012

    Elimar, I did have a lumpectomy with the traditonal 33 rounds of radiation. I had never heard of mammosite radiation until now. I wish I had known about it then. I am finding out the hard way that the doctors really don't tell you all of your options. I didn't know about skin sparing either and the oncologist and the surgeon never told me that was an option. I am a bit angry now. I have been told that they can not do any reconstruction on the radiated side. I have since got rid of that surgeon and have an appointment with a different one and a new ps next week. I have to have one more biopsy to see if the calcifications in another area are b9 or not and then schedule what needs to be done after that. I have been dealing with this since the beginning of Sept. so I am tired of it already. Thanks to all for you kind words. It means the world to me.

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited February 2012

    Barb I am also doing accupucture.  The chiro does not do the traditional stuff on me because of my neck.  But my back seems to get out of wack an he is keeping that in line so it does not pull on my neck.  If I can just stay off the pain meds I can deal with it.  It does seem to be a bit better right now.

    Dianarose welcome to our group.  We are all here for you when you need us.  Glad you got rid of that surgeon.  If you think you may want reconstruction please go see a PS.  I had radiation a little over a year ago and will be having a BMX the end of March and will be having reconstruction.  Yes there is a highter failure rate but like my PS said we won't know unless we try, he is even going to try to save my radiated nipple which everyone else told me it had to go.  Here again he said how will we know if we don't try.  So I am game of the trying.  Keep us posted.

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited February 2012

    Sherry, is your ps going to save your skin on the radiated side? Another thing I am finding out is it does matter where you live. I live in Maine and I think we are a little behind here. I am determined to keep searching though. Good luck to you. I like your way of thinking. Also has anyone had a direct implant without having to have the expander. I am maybe a b- on a good day and don't see the need to go larger, so I didn't think the expander would be needed, but the ps I saw 2 weeks ago said she would not do it without.

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited February 2012

    Diana yes my PS is saving everything on my radiated side.  He said that if my nipple does not survive we will know it while I am in the hospital and will deal with it. But yes I am having TE's.  I am an A and will be trying for a B.  He feels that it is doable because we are not trying to go very large.  He said if I wanted to go large he would be hesitate about it. Also when the time comes by implant exchange he will be doing fat grafting which is suppose to really help soften up the radiated tissue.

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited February 2012

    Sherry, can you explain the fat grafting for me? Although BC isn't new to me, a lot of other stuff is. Thanks for your help. I guess I didn't see the need for the TE for me because I didn't want to go any bigger.

  • Paula66
    Paula66 Member Posts: 1,728
    edited February 2012

    Welcome Dianarose.  The gals around here are the best.  They are so very understanding and helpful.  If ever you need anything just come here.  Someone around here is always willing to lend and ear.  Good luck!

  • odie16
    odie16 Member Posts: 1,882
    edited February 2012

    Welcome Dianarose. Hate that you didn't know all your options as I feel the skin sparing & nipple sparing surgery definitely helped get me thru this with my sanity intact. Hope your new team can give you the options to which you feel are best for you.

    Count me in on the any & all pocket parties as I will always be here for my sisters and never miss a good party... (provided it isn't past my bedtime....lol)

  • SAB
    SAB Member Posts: 1,498
    edited February 2012

    Sherry-I would love to get your feedback after acupuncture.  I am officially on the bad back train after an MRI this week.  Bone scan on the 28th to make sure it's just a herniated disc. If all goes well I will have to make some decisions about pain management.

    Hi Dianarose.  I read more than I write on this thread, but will be rooting for you! 

  • Ceeztheday
    Ceeztheday Member Posts: 403
    edited February 2012

    Welcome Dianarose. My heart is breaking for you. We are here for you!



    madpeacock, Kittygirl, Kay1963- I'll be in all your pockets. Hugs.

  • cmbear
    cmbear Member Posts: 1,086
    edited February 2012

    Ok ladies bring all your extra Valentines's candy and hop on the pocket party train. i have some leftovers too

    My DH knows not to buy me chocolate so I had make my own chocolate treat.And here's to boring routine mammos Kitty and Kay. MadP, I'm praying your docs are just being overly cautious and all is fine.

    Welcome Dianarose. Don't ever feel alone. This is a safe place with a lot of women who "get it" and will listen and hug and offer advice. There are other forums that you can search for some of your answers too.(((((((HUGS))))))))) 

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited February 2012

    Thanks again to ALL of you. I came across this site in my search for answers and I am wondering if anyone knows about this. www.laserbreastcancersurgery.com

    It just seems to easy to be true. In the video the women has a lumpectomy in 11 minutes using a laser instead of the knife.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited February 2012

    Diana, the radiation would have caused your skin to change and shrink somewhat, as well as the skin that was removed during surgery. Therefore, you dont' have the same amount of skin to just place an implant in. I have heard of many, many success stories on women having reconstruction on radiated skin!! Do searches on this forum (top right corner) to find thread where they talk about this specifically. It can be attempted and you may be one of the many lucky ones.

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited February 2012

    cmblastic- Your strawberries look wonderful. I work as a pastry chef and I don't normally eat any sweets, but I have to confess with all the stress lately I have been eating a lot of sweets and everything else. I just justify it with the fact that the strawberries are good for you and I get my protein from all the stuff with nuts. Too bad you are not in Maine, I could use an assistant this coming summer.

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited February 2012

    Hi Barbe 1958- The ps surgeon that I saw wants to use an expander on the side that didn't have radiation. The side that was radiated was over 7 yrs ago. Now the right side decided to hop on the train. They know that it is invasive verses DCIS which I had on the left side. I am having another biopsy on the 23rd to see in the calcifications are DCIS or b9 that are about an inch away from the site that is cancerous. I hate to go through another biopsy, but it will tell me if I can choose between a lumpectomy with mammosite or not. If I can't do the lumpectomy I just wanted to have a small implant put in at the same time of surgery without the use of the expander. She said no because 50% of her patients end up coming back. Her way is 100% coming back. I was willing to take my chances but she said no. It's not like I make a living with them. I just wanted a little to fill my bra. There are limited doctors in Maine. I am seeing another ps on 3/1. 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited February 2012

    What does she mean 50/100% come back? If they don't come back, does that mean everything went great??

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited February 2012

    She said 50% come back because they are not happy with the results and the other half is happy with the results.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited February 2012

    Okay, but then she said 100% coming back is "her way". What did she mean by that?

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited February 2012

    Having the expander put in instead of directly putting an implant in at the time of surgery would mean coming back months later for the exchange for another surgery which she said would take an hour and a half. I know someone who had a mastectomy a yr ago and had her implants put in at the same time without the expander and she is happy so far. She is also a size 40. She is out of state an my insurance won't cover if I were to use her ps.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited February 2012

    I went to a PS for a consult, just to see. He said he could do a "lunch time" implant on me in 45 minutes and I could walk out with breasts! I STILL didn't do it..... After all I've read, I just don't see how that could work.

    Diana, it sounds like the PS WANTS you to come back again, then. She doesn't like not getting that 50% that never come back because they're happy. That's sad.

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited February 2012

    Sometimes you feel like a money maker. She said that the implant would go behind my muscle and then she would use donor tissue as well. I am getting a second opinion on 3/1. The stress of this is really starting to effect my whole day. It is hard to get it out of my head.

  • lisamarie68
    lisamarie68 Member Posts: 1,235
    edited February 2012

    Hi ladies , I am 43 and single . I recently was diagnosed with LCIS and I have the worst BS ever . my stereotactic biopsy was the worst for me , then waiting for the results were worse .. then she says LCIS is "NOT CANCER" we just take it out and thats all .. well thats nice so Feb 7th I had a wire placed and was taken to OR for excisional biopsy .. when I awoke she said and  all is good and walked away. I was then told a while later I can get dressed .. oh devistated and my poor already small boob was now deflated .. noone told me that .. :( then I had to argue to get a rx for zofran an anti nausea med as the pain pills make me sick ... what a circus .. next day I see redness and circles and swelling and its warm ..my daughter called surgeon and she couldnt be botherd. my daughter takes me to ER and post op infection ...wbc increased .. IV antibiotics and more pain meds and sent home with oral antibiotics for 10 days ...so now today is my post op appt and guessing path results ..  I have an intraductal pappilomotosis as well ... wondering if this biopsy will bring me more bad news and what are the chances they found something else ..I have posted on LCIS and microcalcifications and find noone really talks much to me .. so i figured I would try to post here with ladies my age and maybe find some comfort and support somewhere .. I am full of anxiety and fear ... thank you for your time :(  :(

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited February 2012

    Hi Lisamarie, that sounds horrible. Sounds like you need a new surgeon. I had to find a new one recently as mine wanted to do a mastectomy but never told me about skin sparing and his reasoning was that he didn't do them. I had DCIS and LCIS over 7 yrs ago. I am not sure if it were just the LCIS alone if my doctor would have had the same responce as yours. You can ask for a copy of all you lab results and go to another doctor. I hope things get better for you.

  • lisamarie68
    lisamarie68 Member Posts: 1,235
    edited February 2012

    Thanks dianaose , I also found a lump in my armpit on same side as biospsy site . My daughter and I found another surgeon .. I have an appt in a couple weeks . the ER doc ssays i needed to keep this post op appt because no other surgeon will touch anothers work UGH !!!! I am really worried they will find something more than LCIS and how common is that ?? I bought Dr Susan Loves breast book and recent studies show that LCIS can turn into ICS .. oh boy this waiting is really making me CRAZY ..thank u for responding 

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited February 2012

    Welcome, lisamarie68!  Let us know how your appt. goes and what the final pathology is.  If you are unhappy with the BS, I would really encourage you to find another before you get your additional biopsy.  It is a pain switching doctors, but very worth it in the long run.  Is your upcoming biopsy going to be excisional or done with the core needle?  I ask because I have heard that if you have more than one papilloma, they usually like to take them out anyway.  With multiple papillomas there may be a very slight increase for B/C in the breast.  Check into that with the doctor and your own online research.

    LCIS is no picnic, but at least it was not trying to spread.  While the LCIS has no business being there, unlike ILC, it is not trying to conquer other territories in your body.  Sorry you had to deal with infection on top of everything.  Give your "small boob" a little more time to heal and fill in.  It may not end up as deflated as it seems now. 

    Happy to support you here.  Are you Elvis' daughter?

  • lisamarie68
    lisamarie68 Member Posts: 1,235
    edited February 2012

    thanks Elimar ... Id like to say yes im Elvis daughter but im not ...lol .. I already had stereotactic doe thats how they found LCIS and then Feb 7th I had a wire inserted and had excisional biopsy .. upon this I have no further information..I dont know what she removed and I am just frustrated ... today is my post op appt ... I hate to see her as I really dont like her at all... Im glad u ladies are talking to me ... I am just trying to get through the day until my appointment .. I appreciate all of this so much 

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited February 2012

    Welcome Dianarose and lisamarie.  Sorry you are in the club, but you will find lots of support and information here. I just got back from my 1 year mammogram and 3 month radiation appointment.  All is well.  He says I look great!  I was asking him about the reconstruction.  I had immediate reconstruction and then had radiation after.  I had flap reconstruction.  PS told me the chances of not failing were much better with flap surgery and then radiation rather than implants.  I know a lot of women on the boards have had implants after radiation though.  Sherry is doing it soon.  Not sure if anyone ever had implants before radiation.  It was nice to always have two breasts, but flap is a more difficult, longer surgery than implants.  But then you don't have to do the fills you do with implants, so it is less surgeries.  Something to look into.  I am very happy with my results.

    Waiting to hear from madpeacock.  I'm sure you'll be getting good news too.  Will check back later.

    Thanks for bringing the treats Claire!  Chocolate covered strawberries are one of my favorites!

  • KittyGirl2011
    KittyGirl2011 Member Posts: 537
    edited February 2012

    Okay, I'm back from my mamo and all I can say is OUCH!  That really hurt to get squished on the surgery site.  Well it's over now and the first report was all clear and good but I will wait to hear from the RO before celebrating.  Thanks for the support, I really helps!  Welcome Dianarose and lisamarie but sorry you have to be here because of BC.  You will find lots of support and good experience information here that you won't find in your research.  BCO is a great place though for straight forward factual information also.  Okay, now I'm tired from my stress so I think I'll just take a nap and come back to visit later.  Kitty

  • SAB
    SAB Member Posts: 1,498
    edited February 2012

    lisamarie, I'm sorry you had such a difficult start with treatment.  I would also encourage you to find a doctor you trust, who will spend the time explaining things to you.  It makes a huge difference.  Was there a post-surgical report or path report you can ask for?  

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