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  • kelleysgroi
    kelleysgroi Member Posts: 227
    edited February 2012

    Question for you ladies..although my appetite is back, I feel like I have this "pit" in my stomach all the time. It is not heartburn just feels like something is sitting there. It may be a side effect of taxol but I cant help worrying that I have some big tumor in my stomach or something like that..anyone else have this feeling????

    Beth- so glad to hear you are doing better..we are almost there.

  • Kim137
    Kim137 Member Posts: 183
    edited February 2012

    Kelley, I thane also had a hard to describe stomach issue. I took Pepcid for acid reflux during AC. It was horrible and the nausea was unreal. Since starting Taxol my appetite is back (weight gain to prove it!) but my stomach feel like it's tied in a knot. Doesn't hurt or burn....just feels "heavy"......I'm Not sure that make sense, but I'm assuming it is related to Taxol. If it continues I'll talk to my Onc about it.



    Today's treatment went well. I'm hungry as a horse tonight! My Onc and I discussed my ovaries (I'm premenopausal, age 32). Since I was progesterone negative and only 2% Estrogen positive she does not feel oophorectomy and hysterectomy. She said that there are divided studies on removing the ovaries. If I was highly estrogen positive she would give it more thought, but she feels the side effects and health risks outweigh any benefit I may receive. I find this interesting because she still feels I should do Tamoxifen for 5 years even though my estrogen receptors were practically negative. John Hopkins advice was they would NOT do Tamoxifen based on my 2% score. My Onc feels I should do whatever I can to stop those 2 out of 100 cells from having a chance to grow. Guess I'll start looking at the Tamoxifen boards and research!

  • kelleysgroi
    kelleysgroi Member Posts: 227
    edited February 2012

    Kim-- yes..exactly what I am feeling..tied in a knot and heavy..just like something is sitting there!

    just what you need..more decisions to make. I am triple negative so tamox is not an option for me but I think that if they offered me any other treatments to reduce any chance of reoccurrence I would do it.

  • MiniMacsMom
    MiniMacsMom Member Posts: 595
    edited February 2012

    Compared to some other chemos.taxol and all the premeds can bind u up. I know i can still go on taxol but still be constipated. Try the smooth moves poo poo tea a couple nights (key word take at night) and some high fiber toast and cereal. It really does help.

  • Quaatsi
    Quaatsi Member Posts: 385
    edited February 2012

    Kelley- what you are talking about has a name in traditinal chinese medicine. it is called Food Stagnation.   There are a few things that help with that.  One is a formula called Bao He Wan. look it up on the intenet.  Another thing that may help is cut the carbs/starchy foods out past a certain hour-- like only do carbs for breakfast and lunch. Lastly but less likely to help may be food enzymes. You may need alot or a strong dose. The chemo kills all that!  Hope that helps.

     FLIslander -- sorry you are having a hard time with the Taxol-- it really does get you and it does feel like a rollercoaster ride. Hang in there-- I can attest it gets better when you are done!

  • FLislander
    FLislander Member Posts: 243
    edited February 2012

    Q

    Thanks, I'm counting the days now just two tx to go, i looked up the Bao He Wan and the symptoms are exactly how my stomach feels the week of tx, wow!

  • Quaatsi
    Quaatsi Member Posts: 385
    edited February 2012

    Try it- you can get it at an herbal shop/chinese medicine...maybe a school or a clinic.  It does work. Q

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    hi all,

    I haven't posted in a while, just soldiering on through this and have 5 taxols to go. My hair appears to be growing back in...which is SO encouraging. But I meet with an  RO today and I'm nervous about that already.

    This is kind of OT but I feel that I know most of you better than any other group on this discussion board.  I've been having nightmares--awful ones about dying, listening to people at my own funeral talking about me, reading an obituary about me...two nights in a row.  Luckily at the end of the dream I come back alive and everyone is very emotional and happy. But they are awful, horrible dreams, terrifying and disturbing.  Anyone have nightmares?  I'm quite an active dreamer, but  this is the first time I have had these kind of dying dreams and I've been obsessing lately about dying, leaving behind my daughter, husband, what will happen to my things, my pets...you know. But this is the first time I've had actual nightmares about it.

    Claire

  • FLislander
    FLislander Member Posts: 243
    edited February 2012

    Hi Claire

    I think it has to do with taxol emotional roller coaster. I am also having thoughts of dying this week and maybe I may need antidepressants. I said no to them two weeks ago,but now after both of us having this maybe it needs to be considered.

  • FLislander
    FLislander Member Posts: 243
    edited February 2012

    I am having trouble sleeping too

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    My recurring dream is that I'm reclining in the chemo chair and a group of people is trying to give me the wrong chemo......in my neck! I'm fighting as hard as I can, yelling for the right chemo team to hurry. I had that dream for weeks, sometimes more than once a night. I was definitely having trouble sleeping.



    I finally asked my onc for Ambien CR. I took that for a week and haven't had the dream since. It was all very weird. Not nearly as scary as yours, claire! I hope you get some restful sleep soon!

    Phyllis

  • kelleysgroi
    kelleysgroi Member Posts: 227
    edited February 2012

    Claire-  oh you poor thing!  I have not had these nightmares, although as I finish up active treatment I am scared to death about this crap coming back somewhere else and me not knowing it..I think that is normal though.  I'm so sorry you are dealing with such an emotional thing..it's not like we sleep well as it is!  Best of luck at the RO

    FLislander- hope you are doing better today. Try the anitdepressants..I was a hot mess 4 weeks ago..could barely function and very frightened that I was truly losing my mind. I started antidepressants then and they definitely helped..although now I cant tell if my change in mood is because I am done with this nightmare next week.

    Q- so you dont think I have major tumor growing in my stomach?  I will look this up per your request but I think the tumor sounds more likely..lol!! 

  • kelleysgroi
    kelleysgroi Member Posts: 227
    edited February 2012

    Phyllis- Oh MY!  How awful for you!  As if this whole thing doesnt suck enough when we are awake..to now be dealing with such horrible dreams.  I am so glad the ambien is helping you get some peaceful sleep!

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2012

    Hi ladies,



    Had my first taxol of 12 yesterday. Only 11 more to go woohoo! Lol.



    So far ok. My leftover SEs from AC are rash, which I think the steroids fripom yesterday's tx actually helped with and my extremely high pulse. Worries me and leaves me feeling weak. Resting it's usually close to 100 . Onc doesn't even want me exercising. I'm really worried since my muga was really at the low end going in.



    Claire I'm sorry about your bad dreams. I literally pray before sleeping for peaceful dreams. If you are not religious than perhaps a meditation of some sort? You need peaceful sleep.



    My onc and family want me on an antidepressant/anti-anxiety. I barely leave the house anymore other than for a dr appt. Can anyone share what theyve taken and their experience? She is prescribing lexapro. I just don't want to have to watch for even more SEs. It isn't as though we don't have real issues of concern, but I may consider if it helps.



    Thanks for listening ladies,



    Laura

  • FLislander
    FLislander Member Posts: 243
    edited February 2012

    I was on lexapro before all this and it was ok for me, it takes a few days to start working but I always felt better and could tell a difference, I took it off and on when I needed it. I would only take half dose of 10 mg I'm just like that. Don't want to take too much.

  • Deb720
    Deb720 Member Posts: 36
    edited February 2012

    I had my last Taxol yesterday!  YAY!  I did 4 A/C and then 4 Taxol every two weeks.  Now I can look forward to a weekend of miserable joint and bone pain.  And yes, I have trouble sleeping with Taxol too.  I sleep for a couple of hours and then wake up.  I take ativan so that helps sometimes.  If I get up and take it and then read in bed for a little bit I can go back to sleep.  Also the last couple of Taxols really made me moody.  Very sad and just plain angry.  Hopefully that won't happen again.  It is very disconcerting for me and my family.  They tend to start tip toeing around me.  They don't want to set me off - It's like "Oh Jeepers here we go again".  LOL  I don't have to get radiation, so the only thing left for me is to get these damn tissue expanders out and replace them with the implants.  I am looking forward to that.  I see the oncologist next week.  In the back of my mind I am scared she's going to say well maybe we should do more chemo or something else.  She's never given an indication that she will do more, it's just a fear of mine.  I want to be done!

  • FLislander
    FLislander Member Posts: 243
    edited February 2012

    Congrats Deb!

    Looking forward to being there soon!

  • Peacock
    Peacock Member Posts: 86
    edited February 2012

    Hi -- I also have Taxol nightmares, or that's what I call them, since I never had them before. They're bad, and I thrash around and talk in my sleep. I don't like it, but it's clearly something in my head that needs to come out one way or another.

     I take Zoloft now, a low dose, for anxiety/anti-depressant and it's a big help. I won't take it forever, but I need to get thru now with as much sanity as I can cling onto. For me, it sort of slows the anxiety response -- I think a bad thought but the negative feelings don't come as quickly and I can better fight them. it's good.

     I also started seeing a therapist who deals primarily with cancer patients -- during and before. She's a social worker who came thru a referral.  (Many hospitals have this, but mine is unrelated, largely for convenience.)  I think that helps too with the nightmares and generally coping. She's able to "normalize" physical and mental symptoms, which is a big, big help. 

  • kelleysgroi
    kelleysgroi Member Posts: 227
    edited February 2012

    Congrats Deb!  sounds like you have had the same ride with taxol as most of us..emotional rollercoaster.  So happy for you that you are finished.  I finish up next Wednesday and I have that same feeling as you do regarding the oncologist surprising me with more treatment. I meet with her on Tuesday and I am hoping for no surprises!

  • kelleysgroi
    kelleysgroi Member Posts: 227
    edited February 2012

    Peacock- glad to hear you have found the zoloft and therapy helpful. I feel bad for those of you having nightmares..it sounds awful! 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    Hi all,

    I'm on effexor now...but good to know that maybe it's the taxol and not some foreboding thing!

    Claire

  • Peacock
    Peacock Member Posts: 86
    edited February 2012

    Claire, I really think it's the Taxol. Diagnosis, BMX, recovery, AC..nothing!  Then panoramic surround-sound nightmares that started a few days after Taxol #1.  It's weird, I agree. I'm also trying to write down scraps of the dream when i wake up, not to remember it, but to sort of get it out my system another way too. I'm also pretty careful about what I watch and read in the pm.

     As SEs go, I can live with this :)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2012

    Hi Peacock

    At least in the end of my dream I wasn't dead after all...but so scary to dream of your own funeral, hearing people read your obit, etc.

    Somehow I have to get comfortable with this new normal.  I'm not there yet.  But hubby reminds me of my PTSD dx from my late husband's sudden death from cancer 16 y.ago (we had been married only 4 months when he died) and says nightmares are a recurring SE of PTSD. Today I had to go back to the same cancer center where my late hubby got his radiation tx/chemo to meet with a possible RO, so having nightmares last night, hubby says, probably make sense.

    Claire

  • kelleysgroi
    kelleysgroi Member Posts: 227
    edited February 2012

    Claire- that seems to make sense..that's a pretty traumatic experience to go through, and then to have to go through all of this BC crap..no wonder you have nightmares.  The effexor may be just what you need for the time being. Remember this is all just temporary and you will come out on the other side of it.  Everyone kept telling me "just go with it"..so much easier to say than do..just remember that you have sister here that are cheering for you!!

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2012

    Hi ladies, just started taxol, onc prescribed lexapro for my increasing anxiety. My heart races and it just adds to the anxiety.



    Anyone else ever on lexapro. Having to take another drug is also causing me anxiety!



    Laura

  • stjude10
    stjude10 Member Posts: 390
    edited February 2012

    I've been on Lexapro for about 2 yrs now. I don't mind it at all. I am not experiencing se's from it  (that I know of). The only I don't like about it is the expensive copay, but it's worth it to me. It might be worth trying.

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2012

    StJude thank you for your reply.



    Day 4 after my first taxol and I have little stabbing pains mostly in my pelvis, ovary area. Slight headache and tons of fatigue. Also TEs seem especially tight and uncomfortable.



    Is the fatigue common for any of you ladies, or maybe still leftover from AC?



    Peaceful Sunday to all.



    Laura



  • kelleysgroi
    kelleysgroi Member Posts: 227
    edited February 2012

    Laura- I found the fatigue from taxol to be much worse than on A/C.  Also the pain tn the pelvis and ovaries also happens to me about day 3 after taxol treatment and my TEs are tight as is my sternun..sounds like you are having the same SEs as I am ...

  • Kim137
    Kim137 Member Posts: 183
    edited February 2012

    Laura,



    I'm also very fatigued on Taxol. Wasn't sure if it's just the Taxol itself or the cumulative effects from 4 dose dense AC first and now Taxol. I have sharp pains from my pelvis down starting on Day 3 also. I ache all over and I've found that my TE feel very tight and uncomfortable, which wasn't an issue on AC. I think it's increased sensitivity form Taxol and body pain. I get Taxol on Thursday and wake up Saturday stiff and sore. I start taking Lortabs then before the severe leg pain kicks in. That seems to help keep things manageable. Best of luck to you!



    Kim

  • FLislander
    FLislander Member Posts: 243
    edited February 2012

    Seacret

    Drink drink, my liver enzymes went up, I'm drinking fruit zinger flavor herb teas with lime or lemon. It seems liver is working hard to detox, trying to flood everything out. I'm running out of drinks that I don't associate with AC.

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