January 2012 chemo

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  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited February 2012

    I am horrified for next one too, I have heard each one gets worst. Please god give me strength if u give me this. Xanax,zantac,nexium,lialda,prednisone,florastore.. so much

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited February 2012

    Miniwheat - I had ligh headedness after my 2nd tx. I attributed it to my extremely low WBC. I did much better with the nausea though - I was very proactive, I started taking the anti-nausea meds the same day as treatment - before bed. Then every 4 hours in the next morning and I took them for 5 straight days. No nausea at all. My energy level was very low and I slept alot. And I did have some heartburn but was able to control it with Tums.

    I was starting to feel like myself by day 6.

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    Miniwheat - I don't know what cocktail you are on but I go for #4 of TCH tomorrow.  I had lightheadedness with my first round and found it was due to the Compazine I was taking for nausea.  I switched to Zofran and that took care of it.  I hope round 2 goes well for you with minimal SE's this time!

  • miniwheat
    miniwheat Member Posts: 52
    edited February 2012

    Thank you CharB22 and Kelloggs.



    You've given me some hope that it might be manageable next time. I do have zofran now and hopefully that will make a big difference going forward!

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    I hope it works for you Miniwheat. The Zofran can cause headaches so if it is manageable, I usually take 1/2 and it works without a headache.  You can use Ativan also.  I would ask your MO before your next tx.  There are so many meds they can try.  The Compazine was wicked!!

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    BelaT - Good luck with your next one, too.  At least now you know what to expect and can nip it in the bud hopefully!

  • miniwheat
    miniwheat Member Posts: 52
    edited February 2012

    Hang in there BelaT. When is your next one?

  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited February 2012

    I've just returned from my second A/C treatment, two weeks after the first. Like the first time, I feel pretty good on this day of treatment. I'm "stomach aware" and don't want to put too much in me at any one time, but know its important to keep eating small amounts as a way to fight nausea. Between that and drinking two litres of water and going to the bathroom all the time, I have a full time job on my hands.

     I'll be interested to see if this time is like the last: second day was okay, and then distinctly more fatigue and feeling "off" starting with the third day. But all in all, not terrible. 

    Hoping everyone has absent or manageable SEs today.

    Annie 

  • WaveWhisperer
    WaveWhisperer Member Posts: 898
    edited February 2012

    Miniwheat, after 3 rounds of T/C, my experience has been that I'm OK on days 1 and 2, start going downhill on day 3 and feel pretty miserable until day 10. Then for the next 10 days, until my next treatment, I feel almost normal. The only side effect that is cumulative, my MO said, is the fatigue.

    I can vouch for that. The fatigue is overwhelming. 

    I think you'll find everyone's experience may be a little different.... 

  • ely136839
    ely136839 Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2012

    Hello- yesterday was my 3rd TX and I felt terrible last night. My TX was done by 12 so I did a few errands and had lunch around 2. By 3:30 I was asleep until 4:45. Once I woke up I was feeling a bit of nausea and was still very tired. I could not eat anything for the rest of the night and I kept dozing off. 6:30 ish I took an Ativan which did not seem to do too much. I was in bed and asleep by 11. Today however was a different story. I felt good and was able to eat normally. My MO did tell me to keep up with Motrin and Tylenol to ward off the headaches I had for at least 10 days last time and to take Pepcid or something like that everyday for the stomach issues/heartburn. She said the chemo can be terrible on the stomach. Imagine that-lol. I'm hoping the side effects for #3 are not too bad for me and everyone else. Have a great week everyone :)

  • miniwheat
    miniwheat Member Posts: 52
    edited February 2012

    I guess I am realizing that everyone's experience IS different. I need to stop trying to find ways to plan ahead and just face the fact that some things are beyond my control. Thanks all for the feedback. Did I mention that Cancer sucks!

    Praying that we all find strength to plow through these next few months.

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited February 2012

    miniwheat - Yeah, planning pretty much goes out the window. I did really well my first two rounds (except for one day of 2 trips to the ER, but it was mostly preventative and was released quickly each time). So when the third one came around, I expected days 3 and 4 (the weekend) to be hard and tried to rest... when I almost broke down at work on days 7 and 8, it was frustrating because I realized I couldn't expect to keep being superwoman. It's good that you've added the extra anti-nausea med to your arsenal. The more you stay on top of those, the better off you'll be. And just try to be flexible with being able to rest as soon as you think you need it. This is a time when your body, not your mind, has to be in the driver's seat most of the time. Good luck with your next one!

    ely and annie - Rest up. I hope the SEs stay away.

    I'm pretty much in the smooth sailing period now between treatments. I do find myself getting a little tired more quickly, like when I have to carry something or take a walk, but I managed another full day of work. I pick up my new wig on Saturday, so I'm looking forward to that. 

  • TryingToSaveMom
    TryingToSaveMom Member Posts: 16
    edited February 2012

    Once again I'm here trying for find answers. To bring you all up to speed - mom was pronouced in good health ( except for the BC of course) before starting treatment. No outstanding health issues were found and Mom got through AC treatment #1 on Jan 19th. Two days later she developed severe abdominal pain and was hospitalized for four days with a weird SE which involved inflammation of the pancreas. ( after days of tests, no cause was determined and she does not drink alcohol at all so that was ruled out). She recovered from that and then landed back in the ER three days later for chemo related gastro intestinal problems which caused a section of bowel to swell and press on a spinal nerve. She got over that in 24 hrs and then was told her next chemo would be delayed a week to give her body time to recover ( she's on DD AC x 4 and T x 4 ). She was supposed to have chemo #2 tomorrow but her last blood tests done Tuesday show elevated pancreatic and liver enzymes and rising WBC again so chemo is now off until next Tuesday and she has to have yet another CT scan tomorrow. Her oncologist seems puzzled as to why the rare and weird problems are happening. She's felt quite good for the past two weeks so the blood test results were unexpected. Has anyone else here had anything like this happen? Poor mom just wants to get on with it and setback after setback keeps happening.

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited February 2012

    I'm sorry to hear your mother is having so many problems. Chemo hits us all in so many different, often unexpected ways. I hope the onc can find some of the answers and get her back on track for treatments. Sending good thoughts to both of you.

  • JoyceNYC
    JoyceNYC Member Posts: 88
    edited February 2012

    Is anyone out there dealing with unexplained weight gain?  I've gained 7 pounds in less than a week without any change in eating patterns?  Is this from the steroids?  I'm on day 14 from tx#2.  Anyone with insights?

  • WaveWhisperer
    WaveWhisperer Member Posts: 898
    edited February 2012

    JoyceNYC, yes, weight gain is a common side effect from chemo, and I think it is related to the steroids. My weight has gone up and down over my 3 treatments. I lost 4 pounds after treatment #1 because of severe diarrhea, but gained that all back and more after treatment #2. I'm now about 8 pounds over my "usual" weight. I think you'll find that more women gain weight than lose it, and gaining up to 10 pounds over the course of chemo is not unusual.

    That doesn't mean it doesn't suck. You'd think that we'd get at least one beneficial side effect of chemo, right?? 

  • Judy67
    Judy67 Member Posts: 361
    edited February 2012

    My experience with weight is just like Joyce's and it does suck.  As far as the cumalative effects of chemo though, so far my SE's have been almost identical for each treatment and by day 8-9 I feel pretty normal again.  This last tx, the leg pain from the Neulasta was not as bad.  I started taking Claritin 2 days before tx and continued for a week.  Maybe that's what helped, who knows. 

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited February 2012

    Kelloggs and miniwheat, 

    Thanks for the reply. I love you guys here, we know each others pain. My next one and 3rd one is feb 23rd.

    Also, tryingtosavemom.. I know what your mom is going thro' since I had rare se with taxotere on first one.

    Thanks

    Bela 

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    TryingtoSaveMom - you are a wonderful daughter for helping her.  If she continues to have problems, maybe her MO will change her tx plan.  There are so many drugs to choose from I am sure they can find something she can tolerate. 

    Joyce - I have weird weight isues too.  I work in a doctors office so I weigh myself frequently.  One day I was 6 pounds over my usual weight and I was pissed!  The very next day I went in for tx and had lost the entire 6 pounds. Go figure.  Part of the reason they give the steroids is that the drugs can make you retain water.  I usually have my most drastic weight fluctuations the during the last week, right before my next tx,

    BelaT - You will be fine!  I had a bad reaction to the Taxotere on my 2nd tx...chest pain, tight chest, short of breath and severe back pain.  They were wonderful and stopped the infusion right away.  Gave me some extra Benadryl and Ativan and restarted after 10 minutes.  I was fine.  But I was terrified for my next infusion.  It went smooth with no problems, they gave me extras in my premeds again since I had reacted before.  If you know what your body usually does you can be proactive and that is the best advice I can give....be proactive.  And call your MO anytime...you should not suffer SE'sat all, there are so many things they can give to help.  HUGS!!

  • waitress169
    waitress169 Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2012

    Hi Ladies

    Need help with new SE. Day 7 after AC #2. Stomach is feeling better even tho I feel like  I am having morning sickness most of the day. Now it looks like my tongue is cracking and feels like I burnt it. The side of my mouth is sore and irritated inside. I always get good info on these boards and need help . Just don't feel like I am bouncing back as well as first tx.

  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited February 2012

    Curious how everyone counts the days following treatment, since we often gauge where we are in the cycle that way. For instance, is day 2 the day following the treatment, or the day after that, meaning your second day full day after treatment.



    I had treatment yesterday, so here on my day 1 or 2 I'm doing pretty well. I woke up a bunch of times during the night with a bladder ready to burst, and then just got up for good at 4:30. Ran around and did errands as soon as things were open, got my neulesta shot, and now, back home, am starting to flag. But I got up at 4:30.



    Annie

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited February 2012

    I had my 3rd. AC today.  It went well but with a 1  hour bus ride both days and a busy infusion center  we didn't get home until 5 PM.  I'm feeling good and had energy to cook a nice dinner and clean up.  Now I'm starting to get tired.  Plan to hit the sack as soon as I feel my dinner has digested.

    On another note we found out yesterday that my 92 year old MIL has been diagnosed with an Infiltrating Lobular Carcinoma.  They won't have the receptor test back for 2-3 weeks.  Doesn't that seem like a long time ?  I had my complete pathology withing a week of my biopsy.

    MIL is almost blind and very hard of hearing but extremely sharp mentally.  She can tell you the birthdates of all of her  3 children and spouses, 8 grandchildren and spouses and 22 great grandchildren.  My poor husband. :-(

    Peggy 

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited February 2012

    Annie: good question. I count treatment day as day1.

    Peggy 

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited February 2012

    Annie: My MO counts treatment day as day 1.

    I got home an hour ago from my 3rd AC today. I'm tired - but I think it's really because I had a great day yesterday. I went to work (commuting by 2 trains and a trolley for an hour!),  then met a friend from high school, who has non-Hodgkins Lymphoma, at Bone Fish Grill for dinner. I had never been there before - my shrimp & scallops were delicious. After that I went to DS's school fundraiser at Barnes & Noble and picked up a book for myself about Cancer fighting foods.

    I think I may just need to park my butt in the recliner for an afternoon nap..

    Wishing a S/E free weekend to all!

  • SuzieQToo
    SuzieQToo Member Posts: 10
    edited February 2012

    I had my first TC Chemo treatment on Jan. 24th.  4 rounds of TC 3 weeks apart. My next one is Valentine's day...woo!

    I didn't have any side effects from the first treatment and I still have my hair although I'm just noticing that some strands are starting to fall out.  Oh well...at least it's an indication that the chemo is working right? I was starting to think that I might be immune to it.

    I'm having some trouble with all the acronyms that are used here. 

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2012

    Dear tryingtosave,



    I'm so sorry your mom has had disappointing setbacks.



    Chemo itself can cause so many things. I just finished 4 AC txs and after the last one my onc felt I had almost an allergic reaction and ended up in ER with fever, rashes.



    I had to delay a week to begin next treatment. It was explained ti me in the beginning that these things sometimes happen with chemo and not to worry too much. ( easier said than done).



    Prayers that your mom recovers quickly and will be ready to resume treatment. She's blessed to have a wonderful daughter like yourself.



    Waitress, keep rinsing with salt and baking soda in water and let your onc know, you may need magic mouthwash. Try not to eat spicy or rough foods. It will just irritate your mouth. When my mouth was sore, I had lots of protein shakes, and yogurt. I hope you feel better.



    take good care, jumped in from the December chemo thread, Laura

  • Deb267
    Deb267 Member Posts: 46
    edited February 2012

    Waitress169 the mouth irritation is one of the Side effects my onc said to call about. you are on day 7 going into your low WBC time it is important you let the onc know. mouth sores need to be treated right away during your nadir, poss with antibiotics. did you take the neulasta shot the day after your treatment.

  • waitress169
    waitress169 Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2012

    Hi and thanks for responding

    I got the shot the day after tx. I will call onc, It is hard to know what is important enough to call about and what will just pass.

  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited February 2012

    Trying to save mom.   A few pages back, I described having elevated liver enzymes which also seemed to explain the numbness and tingling in my feet and legs.   This is a rare side effect.  I got it about 1 week after my first DD A/C treatment.   My MO almost delayed my 2nd treatment but by the second infusion, my enzymes were down a little so he went ahead.   He said he hadn't had a patient with this problem before.    I told him about how I researched and knew that Milk Thistle will help bring down the liver enzymes (I have been giving it to my 20 year old cat with elevated liver enzymes), so he okayed me taking it.  That should also help the pancreas since it works along side the liver.     You can see more information on the Triple Negative Foundation website forum.    Here is a link... I hope it works, if not, let me know.   I have only been taking it since Monday, but so far, I feel good.  They will retest my blood next Monday.   http://forum.tnbcfoundation.org/milk-thistle-and-elevated-liver-enzymes_topic7803.html

    I found a great document on the American Cancer website to keep track of side effects.  I started using them yesterday and plan to take them with me when I see my MO at the next chemo so we can go over it together and talk about any of it.  It helps to write it down each day so you don't forget what happened/when.    You can find it at  http://www.cancer.org/acs/groups/content/@nho/documents/document/acsq-009502.pdf

  • helend56
    helend56 Member Posts: 2
    edited February 2012

    Hi everyone this my 1st post but been reading on here for several weeks. I am on AC x 4 and then Taxol x 12. My first ac was really bad with lots of nausea, fatigue and sore mouth also night sweats, but so far after 2nd tx still feeling pretty good! Thank you Lord!! My onc gave me Atavan to go along with Zofran and Phenergan if necessary .I sure believe the Atavan has helped alot. Just thought I would share my journey with people who truly understand. I am triple neg Stage 1 clear margins and nodes!

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