experiences with breast shrinkage after partial mast?
For those that have had a partial mast or lumpectomy, how much more did your breast shrink after rads?
Is the shrinkage permanant, or does it relax after a while? My oncoplastic surgeons gave me a very nice result and I'm hoping that rads won't mess up the one that had the tumor too much.
any thoughts?
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Hi, moonlight - I see that no one has replied to your post, so I thought I'd share my experience. I had a partial mastectomy with oncoplastic closure in October of 2009. It was a wire localized resection and the surgeon removed a segment to get all of the DCIS, then rehaped the breast and relocated the nipple. Initially, everything looked great. Then after I started radiation treatments, I began to watch the breast shrink until it ended up a cup size smaller than the untreated breast. I waited a year and had the opposite breast reduced. Then in that second year, I had some fat necrosis (biopsy proven) show up with dimpling and some "dents" in another area of the breast. I had some fat grafting done in December to try to correct those problems; don't know just yet how much of the fat will survive, but it looks much better now. I do believe that the radiation affected the cosmetic outcome of my surgery and my plastic surgeon has said as much. That said, if you want to keep your breast, what other option do you have? Plus, I kept hearing, "Everyone responds differently to the radiation," meaning not everyone will have the same experience I had. I just wish there was a way to predict what an individual's response would be. I think with early stage cancer (and especially Stage 0), the cosmetic result should be considered almost as important as local control. Just my 2 cents...
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Moonlight, I had a lumpectomy on my left breast over 3.5 years ago, followed by radiation. My surgery was also oncoplastic to avoid a big dent in my breast. For the first year after the radiation, that breast actually seemed bigger than the right side, while the right side had always been the bigger side. Gradually over time though, the breast returned back to it's previously smaller size. I guess the radiation caused some initial swelling to the tissue, which over time, just shrivelled away. I've also noticed for the past year or so, that there is now a dent there that is noticeable to me, maybe not to anybody else. If I stand a certain way, I can see it Other than that and the tiny pale scar though, my breast doesn't look much different from before breast cancer.
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Thanks so much for your responses! I was beginning to wonder if anyone else had oncoplastic surgery too.
I understand the goal, to make sure the cancer doesn't come back, and that's the most important thing. Of course I will do whatever they say I need to do, including the nutrition and excercise part (the lifestyle change is almost the hardest of all...heh). But it's been such a boost to my moral to see my own breasts still there and I want to try to be prepared for what's coming. I know I'm being naive believing that I can endure cancer and come out looking relatively untouched, but I can't help hoping
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I had a lumpectomy (which was called a partial mastectomy on the bill), along with rads, and after ten years I still have to stretch that arm regularly (I do yoga) because my chest and underarm still tighten if I don't. I did yoga before my surgery and used it throughout recovery. Without it, I wouldn't have my full range of motion. Sorry, I know lifestyle changes can be difficult. If you haven't tried yoga, I'd recommend it. It improves our strength, flexibility, balance and calms a restless spirit. And makes new friends. Some hospitals and fitness centres have special yoga classes for BC survivors. I wish you a speedy recovery.
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Moonlight....it's not just the breasts. It's the whole supporting structure. Which is why I do upper body work. It keeps me stretched out too.
As I am a cyclist, the bottom half gets a good workout too. Crunches take care of the in-between, important as my abs try to pretend they are "already exercised". So they need a bit of reminding about who's boss.
I am perfectly happy with the cosmetic result of my surgery.
I haven't been up skiing this season, but I can recommend x-country as a way of being extremely "fly". Anyway, the point I am making is that there isn't anything I enjoyed doing prior to diagnosis that I don't do now.
I don't think you are being naive at all. My big learning is that a lot of women set the bar for recovery too low. I'm going for "better than ever". - Claire
(Not that I'm signing up for the "Seven Hills of Kirkland".....on the other side of "fun" for me, and that has nothing to do with having had BC.)
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It has been 2-1/2 months since my last rad treatment. There is still some hardness in the breast, but it is getting better, also is a bit smaller (surgeon said he removed tissue larger than a golf ball but smaller than a tennis ball,) I am guessing when healing is done, it will be about 1 cup size smaller than the untreated breast. In my opinion, a small price to pay to be cancer free. ( I also realize, that at my age (69 this month) that may not be as important to me as it would have been 20-30 years ago).
Vickie
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I know this thread is a little old but wanted to get some input.
I was diagnsoed with DCIS in right breast AFTER breast reduction surgery (nothing had shown up on pre-surgery mammo). No additional surgery was necessary (PS called it the "mother of all lumpectomies") but I did have radiation (canadian protocol, ended at the end of January 2013) (also started on tamoxifn feb 2013).
Had been told that with either the standard RT or the shorter canandian one, that there were similar chances of breast being hard and/or contracting. Since ending RT, i still have some redness/color change which doesn't really bother me, and also had some hardening of the breast, especiially around the reduction scars which made it uncomfortable to bend in certain ways. Later in the spring it seemed to ease up.
But now, since July, I've are pretty much watching my radiated breast shrink before my eyes, and it seems to be getting harder. I am lopsided and have some discomfort. The RO has not responded to my questions on whether this will be permanently smaller/harder.... what's the common wisdom? Is this the price I am paying for what one of the NPs said "well it's not EVEN cancer, so it's no big deal is it??"
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Moonlight, I'm so interested in these responses as well! My surgeon said the effects from surgery would be minor, but that wasn't how it wound up. I'm smaller and dented in there now - and I start rads next week. Of course being cancer free is of top importance, but self image is also important. For now she gave me a prescription for a prosthesis to fill that side out so I don't have to be so self conscious, but that is far from ideal. I am having myofascial release done and she thinks some of the indentation will release, but I'm still afraid of how much worse it will get with rads!
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Hi, I am 5 years out from Lumpectomy and Rads. My breast has shrunk significantly over the 5 years. My nipple points north on my bad boob and south on the good! lol
I find that my breast is forever changing. I still get shooting pains and sometimes the tissue still hurts. This is 5 years later. I do exercise as I do cross-fit and i teach yoga. I am well stretched.
I don't know if this is the news that you are looking for. But have been told "yup" this is normal!!!!
Kosh
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I finished radiation a week ago, I had 2 D cups now, my radiated breast is a C... I hope it doesn't keep getting smaller.. Had to buy a C cup bra and squish m D into it
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I'm pretty small breasted, had two lumpectomies in the same breast, find it looks just about the same as before, just slightly perkier. Not only did the surgeon do a fantastic job, but, while rads was going on, scar tissue formed, nicely replacing lost volume.
About that scar tissue--once rads was over and my skin back to normal, a lymphedema therapist was able to detach areas where the scar tissue was digging in its heels. I'm really happy with my outcome.
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I opted to wait for reconstruction. It appears the shrinkage is permanent. My breast size increased from a C-D to an E-F after surgery and then reduced by 2+ cup sizes during/after radiation. Had to get all new compression bras at about treatment 15. Went from an E-F to an A-B. I will wait at least one year before seeking to reshape one and balance the other. I made the right decision for me and am pleased I have skin and tissue remaining in order to achieve the future reconstruction.
Wishing you all the best with your recovery.
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