January 2012 chemo

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  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2012

    Didn't have a big crash today... very happy, went to Zen workshop today.

    Glad yesterdays extreme steroid high is over!!

    3 down 9 to go.



    Best 2 all you tough girls!

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited February 2012

    Lynne:   It sounds like every day has its struggles for you, on top of dealing with your fibromyalgia and arthritis.  I am so sorry for all that you're going through, and wish there was something that would make this time easier for you besides listening - but that's what we're here for, you're NEVER whining or complaining, so please keep talking!  It's so comforting to know there is a place we can let it all out to others who understand.

    Are you doing the Neulasta shot?  My MO told me that my vice-like headache and neckache was probably due to the Neulasta.  I have been taking the Claritin every day (first time around for 7 days days, just to be safe) and I didn't have pain anywhere else but my neck and head.  So far, this round, I'm doing better (I think).  My MO also suggested a prescription for "magic mouthwash" that helps with dry mouth, mouth sores and thrush - have you tried that?

    I send you hugs from afar (with no germs, I promise!) and much love.  I hope you feel better very soon.

    Nancy

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited February 2012

    Annie:  I like that and am going to borrow it - the "sweet spot" in between treatments.  That's exactly how I felt for about 4-5 days before my second tx - like "normal" again.  I had so much energy (not fueled by steroids either!) and wasn't nearly as tired.  When it came time to go for my next treatment I really, truly, almost didn't want to go.  So I tried to find a positive in it all - at least I can say I'm half-way through my AC treatments now. 

    Nancy

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited February 2012

    BTW - can I just say that I'm really tired of steroid-fueled 4:30 mornings?  *sigh*...

  • JoyceNYC
    JoyceNYC Member Posts: 88
    edited February 2012

    I'm with you on that, Nancy HB!

  • WaveWhisperer
    WaveWhisperer Member Posts: 898
    edited February 2012

    Kblack, So sorry you ended up in the hospital. I can't imagine how busy and stressful your live was -- as you say, even before cancer -- with 21-month-old twins at home AND you're working. Is FMLA a possibility for you at work? 

    I hope you're feeling better soon. And your reminder about us all trying to avoid germs is a good one. I'm retired, so I don't have to worry about being around co-workers, but I avoid going even to the grocery store if I have to. (I send my DH...)

  • NCbeachgal
    NCbeachgal Member Posts: 181
    edited February 2012

    Momof2-I too having been wearing a little knit cap especially at night and I see that same Olympic swimmer as I pass the mirror. Thanks for that laugh.

    Nancy-beaubeau does have some lovely things. I like fast service and thanks for the recommendation. I'm getting better with the scarves and feel they look better with a cap under them to give them some bulk and it's warmer too. I like the 30x30 ish square type folded in a triangle. I'm getting closer to Grace Kelly.

    Annie-I'm so glad I could give you a good laugh. Thanks to you for the comment about the French, they certainly seem to be very fashionable which automatically translates to scarf tying genius. I love a good laugh myself.

    Kblack- what in the world? You poor lady. I sincerely hope you feel better soon.

    Rachel-I like the tshirts tie turbans too. I found the idea and directions online. You take a large tshirts and cut it just under the armpits to form a tube. The directions can be found on the Look Good, Feel Better website. These are great around the house. What's better than a 100% cotton tshirt?

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited February 2012

    Nancy - I love the 'new you' avatar!  I might just get hubby to take a picture of my shiny head.  Most of my shave stubble is falling out and I'm getting down to the bare me.  It actually is more comfortable!  My wig feels better and I'm not rubbing my hands all over my head anymore.  Am I weird for relating to my hair challenged mail co-workers now?  I even asked a good friend/co-worker what shampoo he used and how does he keep his head in good shape.  Haha, they all think I'm really weird!  In a good way (I hope).

    I got my TLC wig in the mail yesterday.  Its not too bad. Not really the right color, but a nice auburn brown.  I'm more a brown grey red.  This will be my weekend hair, for shopping and going out.  I think I might take a chance on an ebay wig.  It looks cute, close to my color without the grey and going cheap right now.  If no one bids I'll grab it.  I think I will have to limit my work wig to the one I've been wearing.  While most kids know about my hair status, they were a little upset by the change.  So, no experimentation at work.

    Kblack - Hang in there! I can't imagine have toddlers around now!  You are my hero!  Just keep telling yourself that you are doing this so that you will be around to help them plan their weddings. Believe it or not, time will fly and you will watch them go through all of their major and minor milestones.  I look at mine these days and I thank God that I've had the chance to see them grow, through good and bad events.  My baby will turn 20 on Valentine's Day.  I remember the day she was born!  It seems like just a bit ago.

    I had tx #3 on Friday and so far not too bad.  I hate the steroid.  I do feel jittery today.  Couldn't finish my scrambled eggs (5) this morning though.  The dog loved them!  She knows to hang around while I eat.  There is always something left for her.  Yogurt tastes good, so I'll eat lots of that.  I need to exercise more I think.  I do feel better if I get out to things.  But then I worry about being exposed to germs.  Purel is my new best friend.

    Wow, chemo brain is really hitting this time around!  I left a pile of papers on the receptionist desk after my appointment on firday.  She had to track me down in the chemo suite.  I couldn't find words yesterday.  My sentences seemed to trail off and I would forget what I was talking about. Fortunately, I was mostly  talking to my daughter, who has a good sense of humor about this whole business.  I told her i had "chemo bread" ?!  She reminded me that it was called chemo brain.  We had a good laugh.  I feel like my 96 yr old dad, who is slowly losing his vocabularly.

    Have a relaxing weekend everyone.  Super bowl Sunday is upon us.  Not a fan, but I do enjoy the commercials!

  • FLDREAMER
    FLDREAMER Member Posts: 166
    edited February 2012

    Help!  A question for those who've had a few sessions.  

    RINGING In the ears anyone?    I've had one AC, one Neulasta shot and am taking Zofran as an anti-nausea med.  Other than being really tired, I haven't been too bad.  But, I am experiencing a mild, constant, 'ringing in the ears.'   Has anyone else ever experienced this?  To which of the above is it a possible side effect?

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited February 2012

    I'm getting dizzy trying to keep up with all the posts.  I'm sorry so many are having emotional problems.  Maybe I'm in denial or maybe I'm just tough but so far I haven't had weepy moments.  I just get grumpy a bit because I hate to waste perfectly good days of my life feeling like a slug.

    Kblack I also did a hospital stint  on days 8-11 after my first infusion.  My doc. adjusted the dose and this time around (#2) I'm having pretty pretty typical symptoms.  Steroid high until a crash on day 4. Now on day 11 I feel pretty normal.  Went shopping and walked home a mile. Caught up on my ironing.  Now it is evening and I'm starting to get a bit tired.  If the rest of my treatments go like this I can handle it because I can plan ahead knowing how I will feel.

    My hair is starting to come out finally.  I gave myself a really short buzz 3 weeks ago.  It didn't grow any but  didn't seem to want to leave me..  Mine is coming out a few little stubbly hairs at a time.  I figure it will be at least a week at this rate before I'm bald.

    Have a great SB Sunday to those who are fans.  I like football but am not into all the hype.  I don't like much of anything about NYC but I do have a son in law who went to Brandeis U. so I guess I'll have to say GO PAT's.  LOL

    Peggy 

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited February 2012

    Karen - I had problems with zofran. But mine were more related to headaches.  I don't use it anymore. I didn't see any se that would explain ringing ears.  I know my ears are not producing much ear wax these days and I've lost all hair, so I imagine the fine hairs in my ears are also gone.  I've been very careful when using q-tips to dry my ears.  The've become very sensitive.  If it doesn't go away you should call your mo.  Mine wants to hear from me if anything changes or is weird.  My poor nose is very upset.  Sinuses also feel raw. 

  • waitress169
    waitress169 Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2012

    Well it hit me this morning. Had AC#2 on Thursday and have been feeling pretty good.This morning  reality hit. I am exhausted, headachy, itchy bitchy and have ringing in the ears.

    What mad eme think SE were going to pass me by?

  • Gayle56
    Gayle56 Member Posts: 277
    edited February 2012

    waitress169  - So sorry you didn't escape the SE's.  I found that on the days I woke up feeling lousy, if I started moving around and doing things (like going to work, out for a walk) within an hour or so I felt a lot better.  There is something about moving that seems to help me.

    Gayle

  • waitress169
    waitress169 Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2012

    Gayle56   Thanks  That's what I will do after a bowl of oatmeal. Maybe it is the zofran or maybe it is payback for ripping my wig off to people who didn't recognize me in it.

  • ajajohn
    ajajohn Member Posts: 4
    edited February 2012

    Hello all, this is my 1st time on. Startied chemo on Jan 13 20111 with Adriamycin, Cytoxan total of 4 treatments every 3 weeks, then Taxol every week for 12 weeks. My 1st treatment was hell. I got thrush then a cough ended up in the hospital for a week for being neutropenic. 6 days later getting my next treatment with a booster shot of neutropen to raise my white blood count. The shot has given me a few side effects. Has anyone else received this? Thanks for listening. Hope everyone is doing ok.

    Madeline

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited February 2012
    Hi Madeline - welcome to our January family.  I've had Neulasta shots after both of my treatments.  Claritin 24-hour has been suggested for SE's from the shot; I've used it both times now, and it has worked like a wonder for me.  Minimal side effects (sometimes a slight headache or neckacke, but otherwise nothing so far).  I hope you feel better soon!
  • kblack
    kblack Member Posts: 13
    edited February 2012

    Hi everyone,

    Back home from the hospital today.  Counts still not in the normal range but headed in the right direction, so the doctor gave me a choice to stay one more night or come home.

    There's no place like home!

    Next, how to get motivated for AC #3 this Thursday.  First time around, I had a week of bad SE's and a week of feeling more normal every day.  I didn't get the week of "normal" this 2nd treatment.  I will need extra motivation to drag myself in on Thursday:)

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited February 2012

    Welcome, Madeline.

    FLDreamer - I've had weird ear things - a little ringing, some swishing... I'm never sure if it's my ears, or wind outside, or my mind... I've heard that can be a SE. I spend a good part of my day with earphones glued to my head at work, so I've already had tinitis on and off for a few years. I hope yours gets better.

    Jane - Good luck getting that wig from ebay. I'm waiting to pick up my second one - short and really red. 

    I felt back to normal by Friday. Not much more to report, so I guess that's good. Between now and my next tx on the 16th should be close to normal. 

  • SleeplessIn
    SleeplessIn Member Posts: 114
    edited February 2012

    HI Madeline,
    Sorry to hear you are having such bad side effects. Like you, I also started AC on Jan. 13 (except dose-dense, every other week). - The first treatment was not all that bad for me, side effects were worst days 3 to 8 into it. Then on day 9-13 I was feeling almost "normal" again. The first time around I had eaten greek yogurt every day, which is supposed to fight candida/thrush, so I did not get any. After my second treatment I did not eat yogurt, and sure enough, I got thrush. But again, ate yogurt twice, and it was gone the next day. The one SE that is different this time is that my sense of taste is gone (still), today, day 9 after my 2nd treatment. :-( And I am cold a lot, which may have something to do with the fact that my head gets cold easily now that it's "bold", and my nose is constantly running (also probably just due to the fact that there is no nose hair to stop it). :-)

    FLDreamer, RachelVK,
    I have also had some sort of ear ache today. Wonder if it has to do with the fact that my long hair no longer covers my ears - and I spent an hour inside the freezing ice hockey rink, watching my kids today...

    kblack,
    This time around I have not bounced back as quickly as I did with the first treatment as well. Wonder how it's gonna be like after the upcoming third treatment....;-(

    My oldest son and I went wig shopping yesterday. After trying on what seemed like every wig in the store, I let him "pick" the wig that he thought suited me best (well, sort of), and then we went out for lunch afterwards. It was a "fun" outing, as weird as that may sound; may have also had a little something to do with the beautiful sunny day and blue sky. ;-) After getting home, my hubby shaved my head, which I had dreaded for so long. Weirdly, again, it felt really good to do it - afterwards anyway. No more dreading hair loss - it's gone! Such a relief! - I look in the mirror and see GI "me" - totally able and ready to start kicking cancer's butt!!! 

  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited February 2012

    Still in that sweet spot, feeling good while counting down to my next A/C treatment on Wednesday. While I appreciate feeling close to normal, I think it's making me dread Wednesday even more.



    Today I've been seriously contemplating skipping the wig thing entirely. I honestly can't see myself wearing one. In any event, I'm getting buzzed tomorrow. My scalps tingling and the great follicular exodus is imminent.



    Tonight my partner came home from running errands with a brand new Vitamix machine for me, something she heard me talking about on the phone the other day. So sweet! And this will be a great way for me to ramp up the fruit and veg in my diet, especially in my post-treatment life.



    Here's a question I'd like to poll you about. I have my first Taxol treatment on March 21. The next day is the already scheduled book launch for my new novel, where I'm supposed to stand before an audience and read for 20-30 minutes. I'm scared to death this is too close to treatment to not be a disaster. On the other hand, I hear Taxol is less intense than A/C and a lot of women function quite normally. Any thoughts?

  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2012

    Annie

    I have been doing pretty well with taxol. The most dramatic problem I have had has been from the dex. They really load you up on the steroids. I have had 3 weekly infusions on Thursdays and on Friday I am flying! I have only had one day where I was totally down and out and that was 2 days after treatment...probably half taxol, half steroid crash.

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited February 2012

    Here we go with tx #3. I am dreading it and shaking like a leaf. Knowing what is to come for the next week makes me want to crawl back in bed and skip the whole thing. Good luck to veryone else this week....

  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited February 2012

    Momof2inME:

    I know what you mean. Ignorance was bliss the first time around. I go for #2 on Wednesday.



    DianeNMil: thanks for the info on Taxol. Sounds like my biggest challenge doing the reading on steroids will be not to act like a speed freak:)

  • WaveWhisperer
    WaveWhisperer Member Posts: 898
    edited February 2012

    Alajohn, yes, I've received Neulasta shots after each of my three T/C treatments. Generally the SE for me have been cherry-red cheeks and body aches, helped significantly by taking both Claritin and Tylenol. 

    Annie3310, about your scheduled book reading...I have found that the day after my treatments, I am fine. The steroids are still in my system, I have energy and the anti-nausea meds are keeping that awful SE at bay. After the first treatment, I had 4 good days before the "hit-by-a-bus" feeling hit me. After the second and third treatments, that feeling hit on Day #3.

    You might want to have a back-up plan, just in case, like reading while sitting instead of standing. But I have a feeling you'll be OK and can enjoy and celebrate that wonderful accomplishment.

    FLDreamer, I've read on some other posts of women who have had severe ringing in their ears after treatment. What I've experienced is the sound of blood pumping in my ears, a whoosh-whoosh that is annoying. Others have mentioned their hearing being more sensitive, too.

    May today be better than yesterday, tomorrow be better than today...every day gets us one day closer to being finished with treatment! 

  • ajajohn
    ajajohn Member Posts: 4
    edited February 2012

    Hi Nancy,

    Thanks for listening. Unfortunately the Neulasta did give me 1 scary type of reaction. I tried to go out for a short walk with my daughter. I didnt last long, i got shortness of breath & chest pain, with a racing heart. Did call the Drs & figured out that it was pain in the sternum not the heart. But I have to keep an eye on it. Feel a little better today/ As they say...1 day at a time.

    Madeline

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited February 2012

    Dianne are you having just Taxol or herceptin also.  If just Taxol do you have to have neulasta with it?

    Peggy 

  • ajajohn
    ajajohn Member Posts: 4
    edited February 2012

    Hi Sleepless in Seattle,

    Yes I did get the thrush & ate yogurt every day but it went down my throat & all they way down the bottom. I think I got off to a bad start all together. Beacuse of my chest cold & all I had a hard time. Just glad I'm out of the hospital, they were all great though! & I was too sick to care about anything for awhile.

    WaveWhisper,

    I also got the red cheeks, family likes them, they make me look healthy! LOL

    Hope its a good day for all!

    Madeline

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited February 2012

    Gotta share my good news - my WBC is waaaayyyy up - 13.4 - it was less than 1 on Friday, so I'm thrilled! I'm actually going to go in to work tomorrow. Not sure if eating a lot of protein (egg/cheese sandwhich every day) has helped, but I'm going to keep it up.

    I'm having a wierd SE - the bottoms of my feet are so sore. It hurts to walk barefoot around the house. Anyone else have that?

    kblack- glad you're home from the hospital!

    Madeline - welcome to the group. Sorry to hear you're having lousy S/Es...yes, one day at a time. Hard to do, I know.

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited February 2012

    DH shaved my head this weekend. I kept my eyes closed and every time he ran the buzzer across my head, I visualized a cancer cell exploding. It was like a scene from Star Wars in my mind - it felt awesome!

    Not sure if any of you have purchased anything from etsy.com, but I just bought a scarf from someone there, as well as some organic goats milk soap. I'm going to slowly try to eliminate phthalates and parabens and other nasty stuff from my environment -- can't hurt.

  • kblack
    kblack Member Posts: 13
    edited February 2012

    Momof2inME - good luck with treatment #3.  I am thinking about you and will be right back on Thursday for mine....if I show up.  I have dreams of just driving right past the hospital and continuing all the way down to Naples where my inlaws have a house.  If only escape were that easy!  And I am kidding about the not showing up part.  Its just nice to dream.

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