BC Dx and Hodgkin's Disease Radiation Treatment
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ColdenMom,
So glad I could bring you some comfort with my words. So many here at this website have done the same for me.
My breast surgeon who did the BMX is Vivian Lindfield, and the plastic surgeon is Shirley Anain. They are both phenomenal surgeons, and really wonderful women to boot.
Good luck and speedy healing with whatever you choose to do. I hope you'll stay in touch here!
Warm regards from frozen WNY!!
Nadine
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Hi, everyone
For what it's worth, I just discovered a citation and summary of the long-term study I have participated in since my Hodgkin's diagnosis way back in 1983, located right here on breastcancer. org. It has been examining the late effects of treatment for survivors of childhood cancers, including Hodgkin's Disease. Well worth the read, if you're interested. I noted with interest that non-melanoma skin cancers as the first subsequent cancer after Hodgkin's may now be viewed as "a clinical marker for early identification of a population at high risk for a future malignant neoplasm."
Um...yeah. I had THREE different basal cell carcinomas removed from my upper torso before my first BC diagnosis! Sounds like the researchers may be on to something there
http://www.breastcancer.org/risk/new_research/20110629.jsp
Wishing everyone full and fast recoveries from treatment, and cancer-less futures!!
Nadine
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Hello I'm Jami,
I was diagnosed with Hodgkin's (HD) in 1992 as a young mother (25 years old). I know this seems older for HD but it tagged me and I went through mantel radiation, open abdominal lap with removal of spleen then a 2 year remission. Unfortunately, HD geared it's ugly head and I underwent lymphectomy (all 26 under my right arm), chemo (ABVD) it almost killed me a few times (really!). I had a total hysterectomy in 2000 (sever endometriosis) and a thyroidectomy in 2002 with positive hurthle cells (carcinoma). I am gratefully for the hard journey because I was able to raise 2 amazing kids, go to nursing school, and live in two states with many blessings inbetween (many!!!) About a month ago I found 2 masses and just had them biopsied. Found out I have infiltrating ductal carcinoma (IDC). I am told the radiation gave me this and I have done some investigating and find this is true.
I just had my first appointment with the surgeon (she was the first line) here in Palm Springs. I am looking for support from others that have gone through this while offering help, prayers, and support too. I need to be able to find support and maybe I can offer information. My cells are Her2/neu and the coarse of action will be 3-6 mo chemo (Adriamycin?? Already did that) and Herceptin target therapy for 1 year. If the tumors respond, they will do a mastectomy in 3 months. Lastly to finish with Herceptin. I have the opportunity to be in a trail with Laptinip if the cancer is local to only my right breast. The U.S. uses Laptinip as a secondary drug if Herceptin does not work. They are trying to make Laptinip a first line target drug for the binding through the antigen of the Her2/neu cell. Doctor gave me a 10-30% chance of relaps because I am unstagable (anyone else in this boat??)
Looking for answers and wanting to help,
Jami <><
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Hello Jami, and welcome to BCO.
Until other community members post to share their experiences and insights, there's more information at the main Breastcancer.org site. To learn more about Tykerb (lapatinib), for example, just type the name into the Search box on the main site.
Judith and the Mods
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Jami,
I was diagnosed with HD at 25 as well, I was pregnant with our middle child as well. I did not have as many complications as it sounds you had but I did go through 7 months of chemo (ABVD) and 6 weeks of mantle radiation. On 12/6 I was diagnosed with IDC left side only during a routine mamo. I am 5 days out of a bilateral mastectomy. I'll receive the pathology report on Thursday the 26th from there we will know the next treatment.
My BS believes the IDC is from the radiation I received to treat the HD - so you're not alone. I read through everyone's stories on this board and actually felt better about this whole thing. Stay positive
and I wish you the best of luck.
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Kelly,
How are you feeling today? I am six weeks out of bilat mx...every day gets easier, so hang in there! I can honestly say that for the past three weeks, I have barely noticed the expanders at all, and the scares are healed nicely.
I took only Tylenol and Advil for the pain. Hopefully, your own pain is minimal as well.
Cheers,
Nadine
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Jami,
I don't have any personal knowledge or experience with lapatinib, but I am happy to lend an understanding ear as you travel this journey. Write any time, and know that support is right here waiting for you whenever you need it.
Warmly,
Nadine
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Nadine,
I am so, so happy to have found this thread!!! I also had HD back in 1990 (20years old) and was treated with a spleenectomy, 6 weeks of radiation and 6 months of chemotherapy, and yes I too have just been diagnosed with BC of the right breast just before Xmas. I am in the process of organizing a bilateral masectomy (still can't think about this without feeling sick to my stomach, but at least Im down to only 1 crying episode a day!) Anyway I am trying to decide on the type of reconstruction to go with, I don't have much meat on me, (according to my PS) so he is reccomending implants with tissue expanders. I would like to have a skin saving masectomy but I guess there is some concern around the prior radiation treatments and how this might effect the tissue and its capacity to heal etc. do you mind if I ask you about the details of your reconstruction surgury? It sounds like it has been ar least a bareable experience for you so far.
Jami,
I too have just been diagnosed with a 6mm infiltrating ductal carcinoma in my right breast, just curious as to why they will wait to see if your tumours respond before doing a masectomy?
Lisette
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Nadine,
Hello.... I sent you a private message as well. It's a small world, I know your PS well. I'm doing okay...having a bit of a down evening. I went to Roswell today to have the bandages removed and the drains. Unfortunately I am still draining pretty good so they could not come out yet. I could not look today when the bandages came off either... I took a couple peeks tonight and got a bit sad. I know it's not the finished product but I was a little surprised to see myself regardless of all the pictures I've seen. The PS today said I looked great... His sense of great and mine are a little differentI go on Thursday for the pathology report so I'll keep you posted. Thanks for asking!
Lisette and Jami - best of luck to you! My tumor was infiltrating/invasive as well I had a 1cm and 3mm spot on my left. My BS says he got them out during the surgery and was very pleased with the mastectomies.
Take care all,
Kelly -
Thanks for your support Kelly! I do not have a date for my surgery yet and find myself stressing about so many things, like what the incisions will look like, where will the incisions be, will my skin hold up etc....it all adds up to very little sleep, as I am sure you know well. I guess I need to ask a few more questions at my next visit. I just reread my post to Nadine and see I put BC of my right breast, it is actually my left....it must have been the lack of sleep!!!!! How are you managing after your surgery???
Lisette
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Lisette - it's all a little overwhelming I agree. I'm doing well overall I truly believe it was the waiting for the unknown that was the scariest. I saw my BS and PS today they both felt that my incisions looked great. They were able to spare some skin and both agreed that the TE's will fill nicely. My drains are still in, I was hoping to get rid of them, no such luck. I'll return on Monday to see how it goes. I also looked closer at my incisions today, they are horizontal almost center of where each breast was. It took me since Monday to be more comfortable looking, in time I'm sure I'll be more comfortable. As far as pain I've only been taking something at night because I get sore/ stiff. I was a belly sleeper so sleeping on an incline on my back is not super comfortable but I seem to be getting 3-4 consecutive hours of sleep.
I did get my pathology report today. I am grade 3 ER- PR weakly + and Her2 - with 0/5 nodes negative! They do however believe I should undergo chemo. I meet with the oncologist in two weeks.
Please take care and DO ask questions. I find these discussion boards to be very helpful and reassuring that we are not alone.
Kelly -
Since I have not gotten my fipple reconstruction yet, I've been looking at my foobies everyday without them for 2 1/2 years. My husband tells me they're 'sleeping' because of the scar-line and when i get the fipples, they'll be awake again! It is a big adjustment. My husband was afraid the first time I was allowed to shower. He kept knocking on the door and asking if I was alright. I cried in the shower and let the water wash away my tears. I still have moments, days of feeling unsure and wishing everything was back to normal. I know it's my new normal, as it is yours, too but don't be afraid to feel whatever you need to feel. It's a process. Feel better everyone!
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Hi. I'm glad I found this website. I too had HD when I was 16. I had a splenectomy and appendectomy along with mantle radiation and radiation to my abdomen for preventative measures. I've been on thyroid medication since my teens and have undergone the yearly recommendations of getting mammograms and MRI's. I'm now fabulous and 40:-) Before the holidays, I had my first breast cancer scare. I had to see a surgeon to do the biopsy since my breasts are extremely dense and small. I had always known my risk was higher than the average woman, but was shocked to hear how high it really was!! I was angry that my MD never really spelled out how high I was in the risk category. I made the decision to have a nipple sparing double masectomy. I've already talked to my PS and have my appt. with a general surgeon next week. The PS said I could get implants the day of surgery w/out having to get expanders. A lot of what I read has women doing expanders first then the implants later. I was curious to know if anyone has had this done and how they made out. My recovery time is estimated at 2 weeks. Thanks!
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Sorry for the delay in replies, everyone. I've been busy with living life fully, even with these expanders in!
I am now 7 weeks out from Bilat mastectomy with tissue expanders placed, and I swear...most of the time, I forget I even have the TEs! Pain is long gone, as is the odd fullness in the armpit region. My first fill is mid-February, so I anticipate some discomfort with those. But the scars are healed nicely and the PS is happy.
Lisette, I am also not very "meaty", so I understand! I was very concerned about how much pain I would feel from the TEs given how bony my upper body is. But you know what? The strongest thing I took for pain since the surgery is Extra Stregth Tylenol! Yes, some pain, and yes- odd discomfort at first. But I was pleasantly surprised how quickly that all went away. Very, very do-able
I had radiation to my right breast in 2009 due to my first BC diagnosis (had a lumpectomy and rads), so the PS underfilled the right expander a bit, knowing that the skin would be slower to stretch and heal. She said we can take all the time we need so that there's a better chance of it working. She said "50/50 chance that it would work the first time" but if need be, we could stop and let the skin heal first.
As for the mantle radiation from Hodgkin's Disease...so far anyway, that does not appear to be an issue for me, as my left breast is doing just fine as well. Everyone is different, obviously, but what I'm suggesting is that previous radiation doesn't necessarily mean it will fail. I will absolutely keep posting about my recon experience here- since we are a special group with special circumstances!
Kelly- I completely understand how you are feeling about the change. I have been through all of those same feelings myself. Then I look at my children's smiling faces and know that it's all OK- it's for them, and their future
Hang in there...you will hopefully find your peace with this very soon.
Warm regards to all,
Nadine
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Hi Ladies,
I had a call to schedule my surgery for February 15th, i couldn't do it..... I am nervous to put it off but really don't feel prepared. Have decided on BMX with reconstruction, most likely with TE's but still have not discussed incisions with my BS and would really like to research NSM and direct to implant with alloderm. Plus the photos my PS showed me really were not good in comparisson to the few others I have seen and this makes me nervous as he is suppose to be the best in town! I guess I need to schedule another appt to discuss all this before I confirm the date. I just really want to feel confident that I am making the best most informed decision possible. Did any one else discuss incisions BEFORE surgery with there BS or did you just leave it to the surgeon to decide?
Kelly
So sorry to hear you have to go through chemo again, but you've been there once before and you can do it again, we'll be here for you this time!!! I know last time I went through chemo back in 1990 there were absolutely no support groups or internet groups of course and I felt so alone and scared. How are you doing the past few days? Just a thought, do you have a recliner or are you able to borrow one for a few weeks? Have heard a few women mention that they have found them useful for catching some ZZZZZ's, I think I am going to look into borrowing one for after my surgery. Sending you lots of healing thoughts!
Nadine
So glad thing seem to be going well for you since your surgery, with no skin issues etc, it's very encouraging! My skin does look just fine as well so fingers crossed. Please do keep us updated on your progress! I think you are right about going slow, it seems there are many more complications when things move swiftly.
Huskylover
Welcome! Glad you found this thread. My PS told me that TE are safer, as there is a higher risk for rejection and skin infection with going with direct to implant with alloderm, although I have to say this option really has me thinking and I am planning on doing some more poking around to see if anyone on this site has done this successfully after radiation, will let you know if I find anyone! My BS does not seem keen on the NSM, because he thinks they often don't have very good symmetry afterwards, did your surgeon mention this to you?
Take care everyone!
Lisette
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Thank You for the information
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Kelley,
I am praying for you and hope your surgery went well. If you have JP drains remember to strip them often
Jami
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Hello Ladies,
I have been crazy busy and unable to post until now. I wanted to bring you up-to-date on what has happened. I had head to toe CT showing no other tumors (thank God!!) so, this puts me in the trial running. I was in a random sampling for 2 arms for new treatment for IDC with Her2/neu + BC. I was picked to take the three drugs Taxol, Herceptin, and Lapatnib. The first two drugs are IV and the last is a daily pill. I will start my treatment tomorrow (Thurs). I had a mediport placed and I know that will be a huge help. I had one with the HD. I am facing some hard issues right now with work and health insurance. My treatment is 16 weeks and then I have a double mastectomy at the end of my chemo treatments. The recovery is 6-8 weeks. My insurance will only be covered for 12 weeks. I was told because of prior cancer and so many "missing parts" from HD surgeries (spleen, thyroid, 26 lymph's under right arm) I am not cleared to work while I go through my treatment so I am forced to go on disability. The math dose not work out so, I am going to take one day at a time and find a solution. My family is supportive and dose not want me to work either after the risks were explained (chronic neutropenia). Plus, I drive 1.5 hours to work and if I "hit the wall" the doctor is concerned about a car accident ect. (I don't want that either).
I am so happy because I have another day to be here and find a way to help myself and others. My kids have been such a huge blessing and are fighting over taking me to chemo. I will start searching other area's of this discussion to help with drug information. I am hoping for a great outcome and I will post how the trial is going and any side effects.
Here we go
Jami
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Hello Nadine,
They want to wait to see how the tumors are responding to the treatment. I am in a trail to make Lapatnib a first line BC treatment drug, It is being used right now as a second line BC chemo for Mets. If the tumors are shrinking, then the micro cancer cells will be killed too. Many times Cancer returns because the treatment was not effective in fully destroying the cancer. If the tumors are removed there is no way to see if the treatment is killing the cancer. By the time I have my mastectomy, there should be no evidence of tumor at all (amazing!) This way, women can opt for skin saving mastectomy or lumpectomy. Chance of cancer return is very, very low this way.
I hope this answered the question
I am trying to think about the positive things new breast bring. Sometimes it helps me and other times I cry too. I believe it's normal and we need to go through the grieving process, we are losing a part of our body. Don't be to hard on yourself. If you cry more times some days and less others know you are not alone ox!
Jami
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Hello Ladies!
Just thought I'd check in. The sleeping is getting better! I had my drains pulled on Monday and that made a difference. I'm still sore but doing okay. I went to the MO today to discuss treatment options. He was very encouraging and heartfelt about my Hodgkins experience and now this. I will be starting chemotherapy on February 23rd. TC x 4... I did ABVD with my Hodgkin's, he said that that is a tough regime and believes the TC will be doable.
I'm remaining positive! I've had some ups and downs but as many of you have shared, that is completely normal.
Best wishes to all!
Kelly -
Hello All,
Well yesterday was the first day of clinical trial. I had another mediport placed (I would recommend this to all taking any chemo). They started me out with pre-treatment medication benadryl and deximethisone. Next, I had the Taxol. When that was finished I took the 3 horse size pills of Lapatinib. Last, Herceptin IV drip. So to sum it up I have 2 IV meds and 1 oral medication. The Lapatinib is taken daily and the chemo's are given weekly for 16 weeks. After all treatments I will get my BMX (yikes!) I am hoping that I can have a skin and nipple sparing MX. No radiation for me because I had the max with the HD (that gave me 20 years of remission and now BC) I have some wonderful news to share and I hope it helps others going through this scary treatment again. I have not had an nausea so far. That is huge for me because I hugged the toilet almost my whole treated with HD. I had some anxiety with the HD treatment and so far I have not had any issues. I wonder if the server nausea and vomiting was part of the cause?? I don't have anxiety under any other conditions in life (weird!). The only side effects I have noticed is a am super (and I mean super) gassy!! My poor family!! I read my bible and listened to praise music while getting my 5 hour infusion. I had a wonderful lady come talk to me about being 5 different ladies.
Here is the story:
Get 5 different wigs and become 5 different ladies. Each wig represents a different mood. Some days are more somber and require a more conservative wig. Other days you feel good and those days deserve a fun wig. As she put it in her thick Spain accent, "And honey, the days you feel good make your man take you dancing and wear a long curly wig and live."
I loved her advice! I came home and told my husband we need to take dance lessons (we both have left feet and dancing with the stars would never look at us lol!) He was all on board and now I have another great thing to look forward to.
Lets make the best of this and find the good, find the joy, and find the peace
Praying for each lady on this site, please do the same for me!
Jami <><
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Hello,
Just wanted to give a quick update. I am doing well with no nausea. I really don't have any issues yet. I want to check the other posts to see when and if the treatment will hit me. I have been living life and doing normal things at my home. I was thinking of commercial I saw a while ago. It said , "I have cancer, cancer doesn't have me." When I feel good like this, I think this applies to me. I hope this might encourage some of you.
Enjoy the beautiful day!!
Jami
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Hello Kelly,
I was wondering how you were doing? Did you start your treatment yet? I have taken 2 treatment so far and I started having side effects a couple of days ago. I am taking Herceptin, Taxol, and Lapatinib. They are not taking my breasts until chemo treatment is done (16 wks). I am hoping for a nipple and skin sparing mastectomy (still up in the air). I am not sure if you are having nausea, I hope not! I am taking anti nausea medication everyday needed or not. It seems to be working for me. I hope you can find the strength today to find something wonderful like going outside and breathing the clean air and listening to the birds sing. Even though you feel bad, it makes me feel well to do something not cancer!
Here's a hug from a stranger and a prayer for good cheer!
Jami
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Hello Ladies,
Here is my update. NO nausea!! big deal for me (the ABVD just about killed me). I have broken out in the Lapatinib acne rash on my face (it's hot, itchy, and leaks) I am using desitin (baby bottom cream) and it is really helping with the burn and tightness. Funny thing, I look like a mime, just need to draw on red lips and outline my eyes in black (LOL). I have loose stools (better than constipation!), I have tingling in my left finger tips (not bad and not a big deal), tired at the end of the day and I notice I take mini breaks while doing long activities. The big deal for me is I cry a lot now. This is NOT normal for me. It takes a lot for me to let the tears roll but everything make me cry now-a-days. The great news is my tumors are shrinking!! Yes, my husband and I confirmed they are smaller!! The goal is to have them undetectable by surgery day. I have 14 treatments to go and then new boobs
I have been checking out some interesting web site for 3D nipples that are tattoo's and a lot of skin and nipple sparing breast that look great!!
I could go breast-less but I think it would be good for my husband (he gets a prize too).
Quote for the day....."Pride says, "I deserve...I earned...I have a right to...." Humility says, "Lord, thank you for what you give, for your hand of grace at the work in my life."
In humility,
Jami<><
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Jami I love your quote for the day... I hope that rash clears up for you and pray that your tumors continue to shrink. May God be with you through your journey. As for the nausea I also pray you continue to be nausea free as I too had severe nausea and vomiting when I went through chemo for HD. But that was when I was 16 and was in 1980 and of course they gave you nothing for nausea.
I didn't have mantle radiation with the HD so with BC I had it and didn't have a MX. I had a partial MX (or a large lumpectomy). At any rate the radiation shrank my breast and I had a reduction and lifts bilaterally a little over a year a go. It is nice to feel positive about yourself after everything we have been through.
Renee
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Jami - I wish for you to go through the next 14 treatments with the greatest ease and minimal side effects! If the nausea starts getting bad ask for Emend. It was an anti- nausea drug that just came on the market in 2003. It did wonders for me! I was so sick with ABVD but found this during my last 3 cycles sand it was my "miracle drug."
I haven't started treatment yet, 2/23 is my first. I am a bit anxious but trying to prepare. My healing is coming along nicely. I have had three fills... It's tight but honestly it hasn't been too bad. I have to keep stretching otherwise I get a bit uncomfortable. My PS says the exchange surgery is about 6 months out. I have to heal completely and get well from chemo before we move forward.
My cold is kind of lingering but much better! My daughter woke up this morning with a nasty coughI'm going to clorox my house today so we can get rid of these germs!!!
I also went shopping last night and bought myself a cute hat for the inevitable hair loss. If I'm going to lose it I want to remain stylish... Lol!
Take care everyone!!!!
Kelly -
Tomorrow is the day! My first chemo treatment! I'm a bundle of nerves thinking of the unknown. Thank you for all of your support and well wishes!
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Kelly,
Gosh, I know this stuff is so scary. I have my surgery on the back end. I am now into my treatments (this week tx #6). At 8 treatments I am half way done YES!!!!!! Thank you for all the well wishes. The nausea is minimal. I have numbness to my left hand (fingers and palm), my hair is gone now (it's over rated anyway LOL!), and I am pooped out come 4-5 pm. Otherwise, I am doing really well. I get down sometimes (I try changing things up and reading the bible to help me). I find ways to help other people (gets my mind off my troubles). I have written resumes and worked on other documents for people. My doctor will not let me work even though my labs look good other than a slight bump down in my red blood count (that 's why I am tired). He is afraid of me driving the 1.5 hours to work (that's 3 hours round trip). The rash remains and it's not really that bad (I can cover with makeup). Things are much better this time than when I had HD. What type of treatment are you taking Kelly?? I wish I could give you a hug and let you know you are not alone. It is so important to talk about this stuff. I find if I do not hydrate myself, I have more nausea. I hope this helps
Jami
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Good luck Jami I hope things continue to go well for you during your treatments. Take care and get plenty of rest.
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Hi Jami!
Half-way!!! Thats great! I'm happy to hear that you are handling the treatments rather well. That's a long drive for you to work... I can see why your MO would not recommend that.
I'm doing well. I am 13 days out of my first treatment, my hair started falling out last night - I'll probably shave it down in the next two days (you're right it is over rated lol) I am taking Taxotere and Cytoxin x4, my last treatment ending April 26. Day 3-5 was the worst for me - I was weak feeling, no nausea, but I did feel like I had the flu (body aches, etc). I gradually felt better though. Can you believe that I still have a cold though!?! It won't go away... I'm going to call my MO tomorrow to see if he wants me on an antibiotic.
I would agree with you too about being better than when I had Hodgkins. Did I recall correctly that you are doing chemo before surgery? What stage are you if you don't mind me asking?
Glad your doing good.... I give you my best!
Kelly
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