January 2012 chemo

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  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited February 2012

    Good luck Waitress169. Wishing you a SE effect free week!! HUGS

  • NCbeachgal
    NCbeachgal Member Posts: 181
    edited February 2012

    Waitress-good luck to you. I hope today and the next few days go well for you.

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited February 2012

    Good luck Waitress.

    I'm feeling better today.  Did some cooking and mopping in between resting.  I'm having trouble the last couple of days finding something to eat that sounds good to me.  I keep ending up with carbs and cheese. (rice or pasta).  Nothing else sounds palatable.  I have been trying to eat fruit and/or little tea biscuit cookies between meals to keep something in my stomach. Anyone else have cheese/carb cravings?  Looks like dinner tonight will be a cheese toast but I'm going to put a green salad with it to make it more healthy.

    Peggy 

  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited February 2012

    Peggy - I'm all about the carbs right now, and bland is good. My cheat yesterday was cheesecake - and it tasted great!

      

  • FLDREAMER
    FLDREAMER Member Posts: 166
    edited February 2012

    I just want to take my toys and leave the sandbox.  (This is what Nancy HB said way back in December.)  I start my first chemo in one hour and want to run away and hide.  As she stated back then, I thought I was ready and I'm really not!    

    If I get one more phone call from a well wishing friend, I'm gonna scream.  I'm letting them go to voice mail.  I know they mean well but every time the phone rings, I jump a mile high.  So I guess my nerves are on edge!  (you suppose?)

    A big thank you to all of you on the January group.  All of your posts have been helpful.  Although I think I know what to expect, I still don't feel ready.  But I can't even imagine how bad I'd be if I never had any of your posts to read and enlighten me. On the positive side, I feel very grateful that I had a mammogram, we found the cancer, the surgery is over with and I'm finally on the road to getting the chemo done.  Waiting one month to start felt like a nice hiatus but was also kinda difficult.  I just want all this to be over with.  

    I do have a port that was placed dring my surgery on 12/27 so hopefully, all will go smoothly with that part of it.   Later,......  thanks again, all of you! 

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited February 2012

    Is sending virtual hugs to FLDREAMER

    Peggy 

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    Good luck FLDREAMER, I'm sure today won't be as bad as you imagine.  I'm hoping you have a good weekend with minimal SE's!

  • grateful33
    grateful33 Member Posts: 58
    edited February 2012

    Jennt28- I am so sorry you are feeling unwell. That is exactly what happened to me on my first treatment 2 weeks ago and unfortunately I was not able to get a handle on the nausea. For my second AC yesterday I took everything extra early and recieved iv Zofran and an extra 500ml of saline (great tips from lovely women on this site) I also have Ativan. Hope it gets better soon :)

    Janetanned- I know exactly what you mean about the guilt and asking for help. I actually work in healthcare and my MO advised me not to work as I work in a lower socioeconomic area (by choice...that whole "helping people" thing) and work with some very ill patients and we worried about myself getting ill. But that doesn't stop me from feeling guilty. I even feel bad asking for help from DH and 2 days ago at MO office visit he said "call me if you have problems" and I said "I don't like to bother you". He laughed and said " that's what I'm here for". Why do we feel so guilty as women asking for help? You are right. We have to work on those skills.

    Rachelvk- You are amazing. Be gentle with yourself.

    Waitress- good luck with your AC#2

    Hugs to all

  • grateful33
    grateful33 Member Posts: 58
    edited February 2012

    FLDREAMER-Just read your post. The anticipation is awful!! Good luck today!

  • GeorgiaRai
    GeorgiaRai Member Posts: 175
    edited February 2012

    Thinking of you, FLDREAMER and hoping for the best. 

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited February 2012

    FLDREAMER:  Thinking of you today as you embark on a new journey.  I just got home from my second AC treatment and, like Jennt28, am tucked in bed resting, updating my blog and trying to relax.  I will keep you in my thoughts today.

    I understand the frustration of well-meaning phone calls, text messages and emails (then there's always the occassional friend who simply pops in for a two-hour visit).  This can be really exhausting for me.  I feel a responsibility to all of these wonderful, loving people who are being so kind and nice - my mother would be disappointed in me if I wasn't, like the little kid I sometimes still am.  I am learning to set good, healthy boundaries: not answering the phone, returning an email a day later, standing at the door and politely saying, Thanks but let's try another day.  Whatever they're feeling is their responsibility, not mine - I've got enough to be responsible for right now.

    I find myself just more cranky than usual (gee, I wonder why?) and I don't like that.  This is just going to take some getting used to.

    Here's hoping for SE-free days for everyone!!

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited February 2012

    I applaud those of you that are "going" to work...I'm lucky enough to work from home, but I've had several coworkers that have had to do stuff for me. I think once I'm done this, I'm going to have a nice office party for them to thank them....either bring in lots of coffee & muffins from Dunkin Donuts, or do something else nice!

    My WBC is "extremely low" as the nurse put it  - .3 (yes, point three). I think it's supposed to be at least 4. Don't know why my body just refuses to crank out the white cells. So, now I'm on an anti-biotic - a just-in-case measure, since I have kids in germ-infested schools. I even had a refridgerator repairman over today and had him use the hand sanitizer before he got into the kitchen! Gotta go back for CBC tomorrow. Ugh. I keep telling myself: I'm 1/4 done. I'm 1/4 done.

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited February 2012

    Kitchenella - I thought it was just me. I've been eating grilled cheese sandwhiches every day!!

  • JoyceNYC
    JoyceNYC Member Posts: 88
    edited February 2012

    Kitchenella, you can keep the cheese, just give me the carbs!

    For me, it's day 7 after tx#2.  Today the bone pain is trying to settle in, but so far without great success -- maybe the claritin is working.   Have any of you ladies taken two claritin in the same day?  I really want to avoid the horrific pain of the first tx cycle.

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited February 2012

    Thanks for all the support. I just posted a "Letter to Friends" under Dealing with Treatment that sort of sums up what I think a lot of us are feeling. (I should have gone to sleep after coming home early from work, but got inspired).

    Joyce - I'd avoid doubling up on the Claritin - after all, the pills do other things to your body and you don't want to do any damage (remember, we're taking it for some odd, unexplained side effect that helps us, not the reason they produce it in the first place). Have you taken Tylenol or something else as well? I was told to take two Tylenol before the Neulasta, along with the Claritin.

    Jane - Yes, we are in similar situations. I sat with my boss today as he tried to help by offering to do my interview for me (sorry, it's my show, I get to chat with the guests), or divvy up some of my other work. I'm sure I can figure something out. I'm sure your colleagues will understand. I'm just surprised how quickly I went from 'can-do' to 'oh, never mind.' And it goes back and forth - one minute I'm fine, and the next minute, my off switch gets flipped. And thanks for that post, though it seems so many of these advances still don't do much for those of us who are triple-negative. But anything that means that women don't need to go through what we're doing is fantastic.

    Waitress - Hoping your tx went easy today.

    Jenn - {{Hugs}}. Sorry to hear the Chemo Express Bus ran you over too. I hope you feel better. Keep resting - but try to get a walk in or something. As hard as it sounds, sometimes it does give your body the boost it needs. I mentioned how hard I was hit this time at my PT appt this morning, and the therapist said exercising the day of chemo and after helps metabolize it faster - getting it the heck out of your system.

    Kitchenella - I just finished making a grilled egg and cheese sandwich! Yes, carbs, and anything yellow, white, orange or beige. Mac and cheese has been a favorite (bought the instant stuff for the first time in years), popcorn, cheese and crackers. I even bought a box of frozen potato blintzes just in case... Good luck in planning your menu for the next few days.

    FLDreamer - Wait, there are toys somewhere in this sandbox??? I'm glad we're all here for you, and each other. Hang in there. But you just hit on the most important thing that so many of us keep forgetting through chemo - the cancer is gone (or on its way out). Think big picture, girl, and you'll make it through.

    Nancy - Cranky... My word for the day too.

    CharB22 - Sending you virtual immunity boosts. Hand sanitizer is your friend....

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited February 2012

    Oh gravy - or no gravy - I've met the dreaded nausea SE in person today.  Second AC treatment this morning; my sister came with me and photodocumented the event for my parents and my blog, and everything was easy-peasy and pleasant; we even went to breakfast afterward as I was starving.  Came home and did a little homework from bed - and then it hit like a train.  Took a compazine, ate some Jello, now trying to get in a little rice and oyster crackers.

    My NP told me they were going to reduce my IV Decadron from 10 to 5, to compensate for the fluttery heartbeat - I'm betting that's why the nausea meds aren't working as well.  I have to drive an hour to a meeting tomorrow morning so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a better day. 

    If anyone is interested in reading the blog, you're welcome to here (I'll be shaving my head on Friday or Saturday this weekend so I'll document that too):

    http://nancysbreastcancerjourney.blogspot.com

  • waitress169
    waitress169 Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2012

    Dear ladies Thank you all for the support and hugs. My big girl panties didn't fall off. So far so good and as always hoping for the best. Tomorrow is shave the head day so when I go back to work I can sleep an extra half hour since I won't be a slave to the hair dryer.

    Fldreamer    Please don't leave the sandbox.I don't have a pail.

    I want to thank all the ladies whose posts I read and reread because they gave me hope and valuable infomation. When I read how you girls handle everything including work,children and home I felt I should just stop bit%hin and get on with it.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited February 2012

    waitress169:  So glad to hear your second AC tx went well today - you and I are on the same schedule, it would seem!  I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers this week, and put you in my pocket before "our" next treatment in two weeks!

    I admit that I, too, am looking forward to giving up the hairdryer for a few months.  More sleep, more ease at the gym, and strangers will ask me rude questions - lots of fun!  :-)

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited February 2012

    Nancy - I love your blog. I wish I had documented my journey - I've barely even written in my diary much since my diagnosis. You have some great insights and experiences to share.

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited February 2012

    I agree Nancy!  Thanks for sharing your blog!  It was a good read!  I hadn't thought to bring slippers with me to chemo.  Good idea, I'll pack some.

    Tomorrow is tx #3 for me (AC).  I hope to be done in time for a nice lunch with my daughter.  She is having roommate troubles and wants to come home for the night.  Fortunately, she is attending a local college, so I can swing by and pick her up after chemo.  She is such great company!  I love when she comes home.

    Off to bed.  I've been having weird dreams lately. I wonder what tonight will bring.

  • FLDREAMER
    FLDREAMER Member Posts: 166
    edited February 2012

     Well, the first chemo is over with and I survived.   My regimen is AC x 4 every two weeks.  Then Taxol once a week for 12 weeks.  I've mentally separated them into segments.  So to my thinking, I have one AC down and three to go.  That is less daunting to my brain!  lol

    My port was wonderful.  She accessed it on the first stick and it only stung a teeny bit. Here's a summary of things for anyone who's interested.

    1)  saline flush (very quick and easy)

    2) salt water started (no problem)  

    3) Emend for 20" minutes.  This should help the nausea.

    4) Zofran and Dex (something)  Z is for nausea and the Dex is a steroid (30 minutes total)

    5) The A (adriamyocin)  30 mintutes.   (This is the 'big' one that is pink.

    6) Ctytoxin for 1 hour.

    7)  a saline flush and over and done.

    I felt fine throughout the procedure itself.  It took a total of 3 hours from entering to leaving.  One hint for anyone who has urinary incontinence or leakage (sorry if TMI).  I wear a pad for protection as well as a Depends.  I had to 'go' several times throughout that three hours.  When I went after the Adriamycin (pink one), I was already peeing pink.  Next time, I'll have some flushable baby wipes in a baggie in my jeans pocket so I can cleanse myself when I'm done.  A is the one that can cause skin reactions so I think that is a good precaution. Again, sorry if TMI.

    Please, all of you, keep in mind that it's different for everyone.  I just thought I'd give you a time capsule of mine.  Our chairs were recliners and very comfortable.  I was so thankful for that.  The staff were wonderful as well.  If I have to do this, then I'm determined to try to see the positive as much as I can.  (Actually, I hate it all but wallowing in that frame of mind was dragging me down!)

     Now, at the 6 hour mark after treatment, I'm very sleepy.  I plan to take my meds and get to sleep.  I know the SE could be worse in the days ahead so I'm grateful for how I'm doing now.  

    Again, thanks to all of you who've gone before and gave us ideas, hints, clues to what to expect.  Love and hugs to all of you! 

  • waitress169
    waitress169 Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2012

    OK   Couldn't wait till tomorrow to shave head. After dinner I thought hubby was being so helpful dustbusting the house but found out it was my hair that he was cleaning up. At work I can't wait till a customer tell me I got a hair in their food! 

    Still shed a few tears even tho I was ready and waiting for it to happen. Maybe because as hard as we try to make things seem "normal" something like this reminds me nothing is normal right now and I better adjust to it. Thanks for listening and posting.

  • Gayle56
    Gayle56 Member Posts: 277
    edited February 2012

    NancyHB  Thanks for sharing your blog.

    .Waitress169   So happy you didn't lose those pants!

     FLDreamer  Hope you have a good night.

    Rachelvk  I am going to go read your letter now - it has been a rough day. 

  • Kite
    Kite Member Posts: 265
    edited February 2012

    Hair is about gone, stomach hurts like nothing I've ever experienced, my fingertips burn, my head aches like a vice grip has it.

    Welcome to 2 nd round of chemo! Off to school in the morning..... blah! 

    (Sorry had to gripe and didn't want to out loud to my family)

    Kite

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited February 2012

    DREAMER and WAITRESS glad everything went well.

    My stubble is finally letting loose from my head but slowly.  

    I don't have a blog but on my Yahoo calenday I write a short little note to myself as to how my day went.  

    Peaceful weekend wishes to all,

    Peggy 

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited February 2012

    waitress169:  I'm sorry "the time had come," but we're all just waiting for that right time, I think.  Sometimes decisions are made when we're most ready, particularly those toughest decisions.  It is hard to let go of something most of us have loved and styled and been proud of for many years.  This stupid cancer seems to take so many pieces of us that it's frustrating beyond words sometimes.  But, like everything else, I have to remind myself that my hair will grow back and I willl love it again someday.

    FLDREAMER:  Thanks for sharing your experience.  I hope you keep feeling well.

    rachelvk:  You've been doing lots of documenting, through your photographs and your blog posts (and thank you for your well-written post to friends and loved ones about how you're feeling!  I might have to craft one of my own for my blog, so people uderstand a little better.  The "smiling face" of the first week isn't about to make a full-time appearance this second go-around...)

    Janetnned:  I went out to lunch with my sister after treatment yesterday, but about an hour later I'm so dared exhausted!  I think it's the mental aspects for me.  Hopefully I'll be over some of those by the next treatment.  And I miss my daughter(s) - scattered to the four winds, the local child is in the middle of corporate tax season so I rarely see her. You're so luck yours lives to close by!

    Kite:  Sorry to hear about your hair and head pain, I hope you feel better soon.  Is your fingertip pain cause by the AC?  I can't remember what you're taking right now, sorry...

    Nancy

  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2012

    Jane - Thank you for the vacine link.  I am going to forward to my onc.

    June - hugs to you. rest and feel better!

    I had infusion #3 yesterday and went to try on wig I ordered.  brought my mom since I was not to sure about wig thing, but it actually does not look too bad.   My onc said my hair would definately go but my infusion nurse says maybe not with taxol.  I have had all sorts of  weird scalp sensations but so far no loss.  I got the short haircut weeks ago in anticipation. 

    Was fine through all pre med and herceptin but cried through taxol....no idea why...just sad I guess

    Is anyone experiences HUGH HIGHS from the steroids????  I was up at 6 yeasterday and mopped all my floors.  Today I am buzzing around like crazy again...red flushed face....kinda shakey.  The worst part will be the crash tomorrow.  Last Saturday I felt like I was hit by a truck!!!

    Anyone else following this pattern.  maybe I am getting more steroid because of the taxol (and allergic reaction potential) then you ac or tch girls?

  • Judy67
    Judy67 Member Posts: 361
    edited February 2012

    So far, not too bad two days post tx.  If it's anything like the last two tx's the achey, fluish effects of the Neulasta shot will probably hit later today.  Had slight nausea occasionally yesterday, but not too bad.

     I thought I was doing pretty well handling everything emotionally, but Monday night had a total meltdown over financial issues related to credit card bills from medical costs and lack of income at the end of last year do to being off after surgery. Husband and I were sitting down to budget and even though he was not trying to make me feel guilty, I just felt bad about all of it and could not stop crying.  I realized later it was just a long overdo outlet of stress and the right issue came along to set it off.  I'm still a little embarrassed though.  Has anyone else done this?

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    Judy - I seem to have meltdowns at least every other week.  Sometimes over nothing at all!  Most of the time I keep it together and my DH is the one who has to deal with it but I had a mini meltdown in front of my MO a couple weeks ago.  I always feel a little better after I get it out.  These drugs do some crazy things to our minds and bodies.  I say let it flow when you need to!

  • waitress169
    waitress169 Member Posts: 47
    edited February 2012

    Had ac tx  # 2 @ 11 am yesterday after working till 2am the nite before .Ran around doing things rest of day and didn't sleep till midnight. Up at 7 this morning and I am still buzzing. At first I thought this is how people who don't drink alchol feel but I know it is the meds.

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