January 2012 chemo
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CharB22,
I am having a day just like you. Hazy, cloudy, nauseous, disgusting "metal" taste in my mouth... and watching my hair come out the way it does is not making things better. I chickened out shaving it off last weekend, hoping I could string along a bit longer. Yesterday, day 3 after AC #2, I woke up and had a bushel of hair in my hand. So I got the scissors and cut it just below the ear. - Then, last night, I woke up with a nightmare, thinking I lost all my hair at once on my pillow.... I can't believe I am being such a baby about losing my hair. When I was a teenager I would have done it on a dare at the drop of a hat.... :-)
Gosh, I hate to whine, but I hope you gals understand. I don't want to "unload" on my kids, and hubby, because I don't want to worry them more then they already do. But it sure gets hard "pretending" everything is better than it is sometimes. :-(
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I was thinking that after one treatment, everything would be predictible for the next ones, but I can see from everyone's stories that doesn't seem to be the case. I called my MO's office today about my feet/hand numbness. They said they would talk to the MO and call me back. I asked if there was anything I could do to help/prevent this and they said, no, not once the drugs are in you! They called me back after I left for work so will need to call again tomorrow. I thought it was getting better today, but tonight, it is worse and feels numb almost up to my knees, like I had been sitting on my legs. And, right when I thought I was feeling more like myself, I started getting sharp lower back pains. I am scared, scared, scared of the neuropathy thing........, especially if it's this bad after only one treatment, and it isn't the drug that is supposed to be the worst for that SE.
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Annie sorry for your bump. This too will pass.
FLDREAMER so good to hear from you. Nice that you could get a little vacation. The weeks before I started hubby and I went out to dinner more times than we had in the whole 5 years we have lived here. I also took several days just for my self to window shop and visit the holy sites here in Jerusalem. Hopefully your daughter will survive your illness. Perhaps it will help her to fend for herself a bit more? Or someone else can pick up the loose ends for you. I certainly hope so because you need to take care of yourself.
CharB22 I also crashed. But today is day 7 and I'm feeling much better. Not going to run any races but don't have the terrible lethargy. I'm having skin numbness, face and lips . Very strange feeling. Chemo is certainly not boring!
I"m still waiting for the hair to go. Did find a few little strands on my pillow this morning.
Peggy
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Tomorrow is my second FEC. I've felt so normal this week. I DO NOT WANT TO GO AND LET THEM PUMP POISON INTO ME AGAIN - but I will... :-(
So not looking forward to fighting the side effects again for 2 weeks.
Jenn -
Jenn: I hear you!!! I have felt *so* good for the last couple of days, almost "normal" (whatever that was...I can barely remember...) that I don't want it to change again. I have my second AC treatment tomorrow and I think it'll be harder to go this time than the first time. At least I know what's coming this time, and hopefully I can be more prepared for it. Good luck tomorrow - will be thinking about you, and your beautiful bald head. :-)
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Now that I've started treatment and am beyong the whole "rushing around" that comes before, I feel like I can think a little. Lately, I've been thinking (and rethinking) the idea of radiation after chemo. I've learned a few more things that no one bothered to mention to me before all of this - like, if the cancer reoccurs and I choose to have a mastectomy, reconstruction will be far more difficult and they likely won't be able to use my current breast skin to do it, which raises a whole different set of issues. I alread know they wouldn't be able to radiate the same area a second time, so the only treatment option available would be chemo. Additionally, the long-term SE's scare me, as do the short-term SE's. If I'm feeling tired now, I can't imagine how six weeks (and more) of lethargy is going to be do-able.
Is anyone here choosing not to do radiation after chemo? I'd be curious to hear others' ideas and opinions.
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Nancy - I've also been looking at the radiotherapy SEs and am so not happy with the whole cooking my breast and underarm (1 positive node) thing... I'll need to find an answer by June.
regards Jenn -
JenT28 I feel the same way. This week I feel normal again and I am dreading next week as I know #2 might be harder than #1 was but I will go anyway - just not liking it
NancyHB I am due to have radiation after the chemo as well. The way the RO explained everything it seemed as if they could pretty much target the area needed without causing problems around it or behind it. I am also concerned about the tiredness but I think I will just worry about the chemo now and see what happens. I have already decided if anything should come back in that breast in the future I will just have the mastectomy.
Gayle
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Re: Rads. All I know is that my friend who had Rads said they were not problem. She wasn't even tired. To me the downside is going daily for 5 weeks.
Peggy
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Hello, char
I am sorry for this, I wish I can help you. I wish I can do something, all I will say is love you and hope it goes fast.
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Just caught up on reading. Yeah I think the rads are a breeze after this chemical warfare and although I don't really want to do it, I will.
I feel so bad for all the girls that are having really bad SE. I just feel generaly crappy right now and know I am doing too much. it is very hard for me to rest without incredible guilt. I was soooo sick over weekend had no choice. I havn't had a lot of nausea but when I do it comes over me quickly(too quick for med) Almost barfed in stop and shop...lol (chemo is charming)
I agree with all of you that hate wigs!!! I am going to hospital to try on one I ordered last week but I swear I feel like Rue Paul in a wig. Think I need to buy some scarfs and turbans.
Nancy - I had a slight allergic reaction to Taxol last week. Felt loopy then bad back pain for a few minutes but they are so cautious about the potential of allergic reaction with Taxol that I wouldn't worry if you are going to get it. I get Benedryl and steriod with each infusion and the first was given very closly. Each week they speed things up.
#3 is tomorow, then only 9 to go!!!!
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I started to edit a post I made recently. I messed up my editing and decided to just delete it.
Basically, it said I've been away because I was able to take a nice 4-day all expense paid trip away from home. It was a wonderful escape from.thinking about the cancer. I delayed the start of my chemo so I could have that escape. Now, I'll have my first chemo tomorrow.
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I too don't like my wig- well I just don't like wearing a wig at all! My family said it looks pretty close to my hair and that it looks good, but of course they are going to tell me it looks nice-lol. I am not sure if I said this before, but I can't imagine wearing a wig for months. I do have some hats and turbans, but I just don't know how comfortable I will feel wearing them outside of my house.
My second tx was last Tuesday and I don't feel like I had too many SE but one that did occur was that my stomach became very hot and slightly uncomfortable and I burped a lot-lol sorry! I tried tums and Pepcid and they did not seem to work. It also seemed as though I needed to keep something in my stomach to try to prevent this. Did anyone else have something like this?
I am so glad to have this board here so we can unload, whine, and try to feel like we are normal. You are all very special, and I feel like I have gotten to know many of you through your posts. I may not post a lot, but please know that I am wishing all of you minimal side effects. -
Getting reading for AC #2 tomorrow. Thanks to everyone as I can prepare for what might be but hopefullt not be.
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Feeling so much better today. These ups & downs are crazy! Awful taste is gone...I can actually drink water today and it tastes ok.
As for rads...I think they can't be worse than the chemo, can they? I think being tired would be a welcome relief to being "sick." I'm going to get Emu Oil for the skin.
And kids....gotta love 'em. I walked my 11 yo to the bus stop this morning and he reached over and put his hand on my head and out came a clump of hair, which he had to show the other kids at the bus stop! I burst out laughing and said, "well, here's something for the birds to make a nest with." LOL...fortunately, I live on a small street and all the neighbors know what's going on with me...the other kids weren't too mortified.
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CharB22 I am right behind you in treatment. I am in NJ also and go to Hackensack.Just want to get #2 done.
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I'm one week out from my first treatment and it feels like a month and a half. That means I'm a week away from treatment two, which will probably fly by. I keep thinking I should be having an easier time of it, but I'm just not. I've been wiped out since the day after my first infusion, and today doesn't seem much better. Now I'm wiped out from the bout with diarrhea that landed me in the ER the other night. All of this was getting to me in a new way last night - I felt teary and frustrated and restless, probably for the first time since this began.
My question for you all - have you been taking ativan at all to help with some of these darker moods? I'm leery of doing so because I've been in recovery for over twenty years and always suspect I may be looking for an easy way out of a feeling. But I've checked in with my sponsor (who, luckily for me, is a psychologist specializing in patients with serious illnesses - a crazy coincidence in our relationship) and her view is that chemo is a hard road, that anxiety is to be expected, and that we need to be at our best to make it through the treatment and have it be as effective as possible. In other words, she said I should take it. I'm curious how others have benefited, if at all, from Ativan. Naturally, what I'm now doing is making Ativan another source of worry instead of a tool to help me cope with all of these worries!
Annie -
Annie - take the Ativan. It is there to help you through this. I take one a night and it helps me sleep instead of laying awake worrying half the night. I still cry almost every day and am so irritable and feeling frustrated about being sick all the time and not able to do my normal things. I also just saw a therapist and she is putting me on anti-depressants. Not my choice, but if it helps me cope, so be it for the next 5-6 months. It isn't forever. Once we get through the chemo, things will hopefully settle down. Since you have a sponsor that can help you make decisions and she said take it, I think you should listen to her and stop all the worrying. Just see if it helps one or two days and if it doesn't, you don't have to keep taking it. I don't think this drug is addictive anyway but you could ask your sponsor just to be sure and calm your fears.
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Annie-I take Ativan for the nausea and the nerves. I'm pretty naive to the effects of narcotics and benzodiazepine, so they typically hit me pretty hard. So far, the Ativan has performed as promised, lessened the nausea and maybe helped with anxiety. It in no way has made me feel euphoric, loopy or drunk in any way. If you feel comfortable, take it in small doses. It works for me on a couple fronts. Good luck.
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Thanks. I just took one. If it takes the edge off without making me feel high in any way, then it's okay for me to do, I believe. It's certainly not going to be like the dilaudid shot I got in the ER the other night. Holy Crap! I felt that through every inch of my body:)
Annie
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If you are not liking your wigs please check out http://www.cappelleez.com/ A friend I met, Jade, makes these. She is a breast cancer survivor and is an amazing person. These are wonderful feeling on the head and look very fashionable and are reasonably priced
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Hey all,
I'm sitting in the chair enjoying my 3rd round of chemo cocktail. Next to me is a man who has been on chemo for four years with stage IV colon cancer. He has such a great attitude. I feel a little bad for whining about my 6 tx's.
By the way, I think the Zinc L-Carnosine is helping with my mouth. I'll let everyone know for sure after this next tx, but it is definitely worth trying. It is supposed to help protect the lining of your mouth and preserve you sense of taste. Dosage is 8mg of zinc and 29.5mg of L-Carnosine 2-3x a day. I bought mine from Swanson through Amazon.com for 7.99.
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Judy - Thanks for checking in mid-treatment. I hope you're resting up and have an easy couple of days.
GeorgiaRai - What a day for your first tx! I can't imagine port placement and all the hubbub of tx on the same day. Glad you're able to keep going to work a bit - I think it helps me keep my mind on things other than cancer and SEs. As for the period, mine came in ultra heavy and long the first two times. Now... I'm thinking my ovaries have given up the ghost.
Annie3310 - I hope the Ativan works well for you. You can always go over options with your doctor in case there's something that might be better for you if you're concerned. Rest up.
CharB22 - What a wonderful story! Kids are amazing. I hope they bring you lots of smiles amid the aches, pains and frustration over the coming weeks.
Sleepless - Don't feel like you have to pretend all the time. I just unloaded a bunch on my BF, nicely, but mainly to counteract the 'you're taking this so well' impression. As for us, vent away. Where else can we complain about constipation, fatigue, feminine itching and other issues, and all the other stuff that comes along with this.
Nancy - Wish I had some advice for you. I've heard mixed stories about rads and later treatments. Of course, let's hope that all that is a moot point because this chemo and the rads are going to kick those cancer cells out for good.
FLDreamer - Good to hear you're back, and that you gave yourself the gift of time off. Wishing you strength to deal with your daughters' situation, and the hope that maybe you can all find a new way of dealing with these challenges that helps you all.
I had a slight relapse today, feeling really exhausted while at work. I wasn't able to leave much earlier than usual, and I had sort of bounced back, but I slept for an hour when I got home and bagged a meeting I was going to attend tonight. Trying to keep up with work is going to become an increasing challenge. My boss is very understanding, but I need to figure out how to handle work that needs to be done, and who else can step in to pick it up if needed.
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Tucked into bed after my second tx today :-(
They didn't give me the anti-nausea premeds early enough before starting tx. I ended up feeling very ill and had to have an Ativan and then iv maxalon. I feel like I've been hit by a bus and very over medicated.
And I couldn't suck my ice because I felt so ill. So now know I'll have probs with sores and taste buds this time.
This is all so sad.
Jenn -
Jenn - So sorry to hear about the the rough go at your second treatment! This ia all so sad! I hate how everything is so unpredictable. From tx to tx it seems we can't count on anything anymore. Just makes me want to crawl under the covers and not come out again. Sending you a very gentle cyber hug ((((((JENN))))))
Rachelvk - Sounds like you are getting worn out too. While work certainly is good for keeping your mind off of C, it can be very exhausting! Unfortunately, as we put on our game face, our coworkers and supervisors unwittingly begin to think of us as 'well'. As much as we would like that to be true, we still have this Little problem of being filled with poison on a somewhat regular basis. Kind of hard to be 'well' while parts of our body are falling apart.
I think the hardest part of working while in treatment, for me, will be letting others take over some of my responsibilities. We just began our third quarter at school and I insisted on taking back two classes (Yoga & Health) that were removed from my teaching schedule when I went on medical leave for surgery. My boss was a little annoyed with me since he knows me well. He only agreed since I promised I would let someone cover on my 'bad' days. But I feel so guilty. My coworkers give up prep periods to cover my classes and I know how precious these preps are in our busy day. They did this for the 6 weeks I was out on leave. It is so hard to ask for help or accept it when needed. Unfortunately, I think I will be practicing this skill often during the next 2 months.
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A little off topic, but on a positive note, it looks as though we are getting closer and closer to having a vaccine available to treat some types of bc. My BS is currently in the midst of very promising research on a DCIS vaccine. On my initial visit with him, after being first diagnosed with DCIS, he spoke briefly about this research. Unfortunately, it is a little too late for me, but I feel better about the next generation of women facing this disease. Our daughters, granddaughters, and nieces etc might not have to fight the same battle.
http://www.emaxhealth.com/1275/cancer-vaccine-eliminates-tumors-early-breast-cancer
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kameli16 Thanks for that link. They look interesting.
Rachelvk - Work takes my mind off of things as well but some days it is hard to keep up. My two coworkers have been wonderful helping me with my students when I don't have the energy to go up and down the 4 flights of steps to pick them up.
Judy67 Hope the rest of the day was uneventful for you
Jennt28 Sorry you had a rough time
Janetanned Thanks for sharing that link - interesting article Nothing would make me happier to have them come up with something so my girls never have to go through this
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Annie, just wanted to echo others who recommended you take the Ativan. Since my Dx, my docs have put me on an anti-depressant, which I take daily, as well as the Ativan, which I take as needed to help with anxiety and sleep. I'm also taking a sleeping pill every night, and some nights I take up to 2 Ativan on top of the sleeping pill. And I'm someone who usually doesn't like medications.
What we're going through is, hopefully, temporary, and I applaud the doctors for freely giving us anything they think can help us get through the chemo and side effects. I say do everything we can to cope.
Janetanned, I understand how guilty you must feel letting your colleagues cover for you. Once you're through this, I know you'll find some way to repay their kindness and generosity, or help others who find themselves in a similar situation. I think we'll all come out of this on the other side more compassionate people.
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Jennt-ugh! So sorry that you're feeling so bad. If you can muster up the energy for good thoughts, just keep repeating, "it will get better, it will go away." and sleep as much as you need. Feel better!
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Good morning everyone Put my big girl panties on and I'm on my way to AC #2. Hope these panties too big!
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