LUMPECTOMY vs. MASTECTOMY.....HELP!

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  • TJP1071
    TJP1071 Member Posts: 66
    edited January 2012

    Consult with my surgeon on Wed.  Feb 1 and a consult with plastic on Friday Feb 3rd.  Plastic sent me a power point with pictures and information and now that I see and hear everything I am not sure I can go thru with it!  Not sure I can handle hte pain of a BMX.  Kinda a worry wart.  I do better when things are thrust upon me and I have no choice. 

    My thoughts change with the day...sometimes even with the hour.  

    Just to make sure i am on the schedule the doc has scheduled a lumpectomy on Feb 17th.  If after the results of the genetics come back I change my mind or after Plastics I choose BMX then we can reschedule.  But at least I

    am on the schedule since it can be 2 weeks to get on it!

  • southgal
    southgal Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2012

    I know how you feel.  It's been 14 months since I had my lumpectomy and 12 months since I had radiation.  When the surgeon told me I had DCIS he started telling me that I needed a mastectomy.   I kept asking him why I couldn't have a lumpectomy.   He said he was going to have a meeting with other doctors and radiologists to get their opinions.   I told him I didn't want a mastectomy and the reason was I had a hystorectomy four months earlier.   I felt like they were trying to turn me into an it.  If the cancer had spread outside of the duct I probably would have had them take the whole breast.   I think you have to decide for yourself and pick what you think is best for you.  I will tell you that the lumpectomy comes with headaches like pain, scar tissue, and fluid buildup.   I have been putting off the reconstructive surgery.   But now that the fluid is back I am going to schedule an appointment to see if reconstructive surgery would take care of it.  I wish you a lot of luck and whatever you decide is YOUR decision.   Don't let people make you feel funny about your decision.  It's your body and you should do what you want to do.

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited January 2012

    Hi TJP1071-

    I read all of your post and sympathize with you. It is a difficult decision. I had a BMX on 11/11/11 after being given the choice of a lumpectomy, UMX or BMX. I chose the BMX for the following:

    1. My type of cancer is hard to detect. It forms more of a "line" than a lump. MO said it was probably there through my last 2 to 3 mammograms. I'm not a good test taker. I get nervous waiting for medical test results and knew myself and didn't want to wait for the other shoe to drop. I am 43, I have 3 kids, breastfed all of them and once I learned I had BC, I felt emotionally detached from them. I did not want to go through this again.

    2. The type of cancer I had has a 30% chance of recurrence in the opposite breast. See reasons above why I could not live with this.

    3. I'm not a vain person, but take pride in my appearance and am happily married. Both my PS and my BS said that it is impossible to match a 43 year old breast to a brand new breast, and wanted me to be aware of that going in.

    4. I'm considered "young" anything that will reduce my chances of going through this nightmare again I will do. My boys are 7,9, and 16. I want to see them grow up. A BMX isn't a cure, I know that, but I knew I couldn't live with a UMX or Lumpectomy because I really know myself and would be mentally tortured with testing and waiting.

    Having said all that, the pain with really manageable. I don't regret it and feel at peace with it.

    When I told my BS my decision, he was visible relieved and said that he fully believes I made the right decision. After the BMX, with the final pathology (no nodal involvement, no vascular invasion) my "healthy" left breast had a large fibroadema (sp?) that was never picked up by mammo, US, or MRI. Although it is not cancerous, my MO said "if there was any doubt in your mind about your decision to have a BMX, you can put it to rest, we would have had to monitor your left breast closely with mammograms (worthless for me) and MRI's every 3 to six months. So, next month, I would already be subjecting myself to an MRI.... So over it!

    Just listen to your own mind and what mentally you can tolerate. Don't agonize over the physical pain, that is short lived and very manageable.

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited January 2012

    Lol emotionally detached from my breasts! Not my kids! I felt like my breasts had done their job, they were now sick, and I wanted them gone.

  • TJP1071
    TJP1071 Member Posts: 66
    edited January 2012

    MOMOF3BOYS~~~~~Funny I am the mom of 3 girls!

     I do find it funny that at 40 I am considered "YOUNG!"

    Thanks for your input.  The idea of the long term is what is making me think about BMX.  I know that I can get thru anything I need to but......the choice is the worst part.  Once I make it I know things will be fine. Both have benifits as well as negatives.  Sooner or later one thing will sway me to one side or another.

  • stac
    stac Member Posts: 111
    edited January 2012

    TJP, Thanks for the update and do let us know how your consults go.  It is normal to go back and forth.  As I read through my journal over that period in my life (just a couple of months ago) it reads like: "today I know I want..." and the next day, "today I think instead I want...".  It's Ok to have conflicting thoughts and emotions, over time something will most likely start to resonate more clearly for you.  I hope your consults go well.

  • blondee327texas
    blondee327texas Member Posts: 23
    edited January 2012

    HI, So sorry you are going through this.  I had DCIS in 12/10, then again in 7/11... I had a lumpectomy in on Dec 22, 2010.  I had a recurrence (or some was left behind) on 7/21/11...

    First of all, Be your OWN best advocate.  I did tons of research.  I interviewed 6 doctors.  YES, you heard me right. I interviewed them.  I wanted to see if they had my same values, my sames wishes, my best interest, my best outlook, my best option on their minds.  I was "offered" another lumpectomy with a reduction on righty... I told them no way. 

    I watched video's of lumpectomy, mastectomy, diep, and any other surgery I could find for Breast Cancer. 

    I opted for double MX with immediate DIEP which is Deep Inferior Epigastric Perforator... I had this surgery on 9/29/2011.  My reconstruction was the same day. surgery was 10 hours. I was in ICU 1 day, hospital 4 days.  I was off work 6 weeks and I wouldn't change one thing.

    I then had revision surgery on 12/22/2011 to fix a few things.  Fill the tops of the breast area, resconstruct my nipples, do a small tuck as I wanted them smaller, and repair my "dog ears"...  This was a 3 hour surgery.  I was out of school at that time so missed no work. 

    I wouldn't have done it any other way.  I feel great. I am attending a boot camp.  I did have some pain in my hips where they harvested the fat to fill the tops of the breast.  BUT, I am so far ahead of the game.

    I was originally told that I would not have to have any more mammograms, but when I saw my surgeon last week, he said that new research shows that even though I do not have my original breast, that I still have breast tissue under the arms and BC can come back there.  So he suggested a mammogram to make sure.

    PM me if you would like to visit. I will be glad to call you and visit.

    Hugs,
    Deidre'

    (o)(o) yes they are fake, the originals tried to kill me... :-)

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited January 2012

    TJP, good luck with your Wednesday and Friday appointments.  Hopefully they will provide you with more clarity as to what's the right decision for you.  And if they don't, my advice would be to go ahead with the February 17th lumpectomy and then see how you feel from there.  A mastectomy or BMX can always be done after you've had the lumpectomy, but once a mastectomy is done you can't go back. So I always say that if you are uncertain, it's better to go in the direction that leaves you with the most options down the road.  Even if you have radiation, while it's not ideal to have a mastectomy with reconstruction afterwards, it is still possible and lots of women do it.  But going the other way is impossible. 

    There is one other comment I want to make, based on a couple of things that you have said.  My interpretation is that your greatest concern is about the short term implications of having the mastectomy, vs. the long term effect.  As someone who has lived with a mastectomy + reconstruction for 6 years, I actually view it differently.  For me, the short term was quite easy - the surgery and recovery was much easier than I expected and I felt great that I had dealt with my BC and gotten through the surgery. But the implications of living with a mastectomy and a fake breast for the rest of my life were and are much greater than I ever imagined. I'm not suggesting that you would feel the same - I've certainly learned from hanging out here that we can never assume that someone else's experience, emotions, reactions and feelings will be the same as ours - but I wanted to provide this as a different perspective. 

    Let us know how the two appointments go! 

  • TJP1071
    TJP1071 Member Posts: 66
    edited January 2012

    I am so thankful for this site!  The ladies here are so wonderful!  Willing to share to help newbies like me out!  We have so many questions.  Having women like you all who care enough to shed light on the things we need to work thru are priceless!  Thank you all! THank you, thank you, thank you!

  • CAP042
    CAP042 Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2012

    TJP1071 – This is my first time reading this board and this thread has been so helpful as I am dealing with the same diagnosis and decision. Like you, my plan changes hourly to the point I really wish someone else would tell me what I need to do (and that is not often in my nature.) While immediate health is important, at 35, I know that this is a long-term decision.

    I hope everything goes well with your appoinments and that your answer becomes clear. I don't have any advice to offer as I am lost with all this too and am very grateful for the responses here. There is some comfort in reading that most women are pleased with their choices.

  • stac
    stac Member Posts: 111
    edited January 2012

    CAP042, Sorry to hear about your recent diagnosis. Welcome to this site and this thread. It is such a roller coaster ride, but we are with you!!!! Wishing you well as you take each next step.

  • theyaregone
    theyaregone Member Posts: 52
    edited February 2012

    I had an excisional biopsy and results were given to me friday.  Monday we scheduled my double mastectomy which i just had Thursday.  Less than a week to digest it all.

    I opted for the double because of family history.  I also didn't feel I could live worried all the time. I had DCIS - stage 0 in 1 breast.

    I am alone - completely.  My husband passed away a couple years ago and my daughter is completely out of the picture.  So I had the surgery less than 2 weeks ago and came home to my cat.  Its not easy.  The pain isn't all that bad, its the discomfort and the loneliness with no shoulder to lean on or a hug from anyone.

    Why am I telling you all this?  Because it is such a personal choice.  You do what you feel comfortable with doing.  I made my decision quick and had the surgery quick so that I wouldn't have time to think about it. 

  • Deirdre1
    Deirdre1 Member Posts: 1,461
    edited February 2012

    It most certainly IS a personal choice.. and should only be made after a great deal of research AND IMO lots of time working with a therapist so that you can really hear you own voice.. I agree with Beesie, you can alway have a mastectomy later... too often we are told how "easy" this is and that the replacement of breast with implants will be better.. but I never heard one of my 3 doc's suggest that i would have problems adjusting to the new me - my new normal.. but I did and it took me just shy of 5 years to adjust to the new normal...  I was depressed and had a feeling of intense loss... I am not normally a depressed person but the loss of the breast (and I was never defined by my breast either!) was almost too big to overcome - for me.  Please make sure you have ruled out anything else everything else before going through the removal of your breasts. Take care, Deirdre

  • TJP1071
    TJP1071 Member Posts: 66
    edited February 2012

    Things are getting clearer now!  Genetics results are back and it was good news!  Had a follow up consult with the doc yestereday and it went good as well  Plastics is tomorrow and I think that unless he tells me something that really turns me off......I am going for the BMX w/TE.  I will not live in  fear of cancer  the rest of my life.  The best choice for me to do that is to do the BMX.  My daughters (13,12,9) have been wonderful!  Asking me questions from a purley health point of view.  They are yet to have any real emotional attachment or sexual attachment to breasts.  So the questions were really what is most improtant.  Shocked me a bit!  It really did help to talk with them...even though they are still kids! 

  • stac
    stac Member Posts: 111
    edited February 2012

    TJP,

    Glad it is getting clearer.  Keep us posted b/c I know it tends to be a roller coaster ride, or at least it was for me.  How cool that you were able to talk to your daughters and that they were able to come along side you on this.  Wishing you well as you take each next step.

  • LISAMG
    LISAMG Member Posts: 639
    edited February 2012

    Together, your MRI findings and genetic testing results will allow u to make a fully informed decision. You are doing everything possible now. Best wishes!

  • rubalou
    rubalou Member Posts: 137
    edited February 2012

    I also had DCIS, stage 0. I was given the choice of lumpectomy with radiation or mastectomy. My breasts were small so my BS told me I might want to consider an MX because the lumpectomy would disfigure me. If you have large breasts they can do more to even you out or camoflage. My research on the internet turned up countless tales of women who had to go back in for further surgery because margins were not clear and many who felt so disfigured they wish they would have just had the MX and many more who were so much happier once they had had the MX. I also read many times how many felt they wished they had just done them both.  I have watched my Step-Mom battle a different, much more invasive and aggressive BC for 30 years now. While DCIS is not the same as hers and what I had was non-invasive, I did not want to go through (or have hanging over my head that I might have to have) countless surgeries, thinking I was clear only to have a re-occurance, radiation, harmone therapy and chemo.

    I chose to have BMX for several reasons.

    To negate as much a possible ANY chances for re-occurance.

    To lessen surgeries and avoid radiation

    To have a better reconstruction outcome.

    In the end it's highly personal and one of the worst parts of this desease...having to make these decisions. Kind, loving, prayerfull thoughts to anyone having to make them.

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited February 2012

    TJP1071 - I had lumpectomy with rads, however, if not already mentioned in previous posts - - check out the reconstruction site for articles / topics on "Fat" grafting, etc.  It is my understanding that some plastic surgeons are using "Fat" injections as in liposuction technique from another part of your body (thigh, butt, stomach).  This proceduce is used to correct any dimples or surgical areas needing "filling in" following lumpectomy (that is my understanding).  If you find those posts you will see numerous feedback from many women who have undergone this procedure with first hand knowledge - results information.  Others have used more extensive procedure for bmx --- but that is a separate reconstruction procedure.

  • TJP1071
    TJP1071 Member Posts: 66
    edited February 2012

    I want to take a minute to thank all of the women who have given me so many things to think about.  I never believed you that over time one choice would seem better...but it has. I have come to the decision that I cannot live in fear of cancer for the rest of my life and have chosen a BMX.  Long and tough decision....but I think it is the right choice for me!  Thank you all again for sharing.  I am on to the tip pages for preparing for a BMX!

  • Scuba_duchess
    Scuba_duchess Member Posts: 460
    edited February 2012

    tJP, have you had Oncotype DX testing done? That helps provide insight into likelihood of recurrence. I was diagnosed with ILC and am sorry, not sure of differences between the types relative to this test. Worth asking oncologist...



    Agree with all, it's not easy. I also have crappy family history but when I did the genetic testing, it was fine. I just don't think we kow enough yet.



    After my initial lumpectomy came back with 4 of 6 margins showing cancerous tissue, I had the option of reexcision or Mastectomy (one or two). I opted for most aggressive approach and had BMx with LAT recon immediately. Just got my permanent implants in January. Am glad it is behind me. Not looking back but, will say that the loss of feeling is a definite big impact, I think I will always miss that.



    Whatever choice you make, be your own advocate, find docs you believe in and do a reasonable amount of research (you could go insane reading everything). Whatever choice you make is the right one. Cheers, Lisa

  • stac
    stac Member Posts: 111
    edited February 2012

    TJP,

    Thanks for keeping us posted.  Wishing you well as your journey through. (HUGS)

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