Experiencing Stage 1/Grade 1 = "Play Cancer"

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CorinneM1
CorinneM1 Member Posts: 539
edited June 2014 in Stage I Breast Cancer

Before I begin, yes I understand that it was caught early.  Yes, I understand that early detection helps save lives.  And I am extremely happy that it was caught early and that I didn't have to do chemo.

However, what I am not happy about is the perception that everything is over. That everything is done. I have been told that my cancer is/was "play cancer" recently and it is really sticking with me.  Play cancer?  I was stunned.  Still am.

What would you say to something like that.  Does anyone here not find this insulting? Just me?

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  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited January 2012

    I find it stunning. Was it one person who said that or have you heard it repeatedly? if just one person, I would write them off as a complete idiot and not worthy of your energy, emotion or time. If you've heard it several times, that's another story.

    They say you're never the same again after you've heard your name and the word 'cancer' in the same sentence. I believe that. Whoever said that to you just doesn't get it.

    So sorry you have to put up with that.

    Amy 

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited January 2012

    That person is lucky they didn't get a slap upside of their head. It's not "play cancer" if you have to take Arimidex for 5 years. Geeesh!

  • CorinneM1
    CorinneM1 Member Posts: 539
    edited January 2012

    It was two people, but from the same family and clearly they had coined the phrase together.  I believe that they believe it was a compliment.  When I explained that its not over, that I have made drastic changes in order to reduce my recurrance (healthy, almost meatless diet, running 3-4x a week, no drinking, taking hormone therapy for 10+ years, etc etc) it hit them like a feather.

    No difference.  Almost like they don't believe me. 

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited January 2012

    One thing that BC has taught me is that there is no time in my life for idiots.  You tried to educate them and they still didn't get it.  Chances are they are not going to.  If someone said that to me I would walk away and not look back.

  • ptdreamers
    ptdreamers Member Posts: 1,080
    edited January 2012

    CorinneM, These people are clueless and not worth your bother. If they are relatives consider it the luck of the draw and ignore as much as possible. Yes we are grateful that it was caught this early but there are no guarantees. We take a daily pill and hope for the best.  Meanwhile, keep up the lifestyle changes and come here for people who truly understand.

  • CorinneM1
    CorinneM1 Member Posts: 539
    edited January 2012

    Thanks all.  They had me guessing myself in thinking that this wasn't insulting.

    Yes, they are relatives--so I just have to shake my head and walk away.  Gah.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited January 2012

    I would be furious if someone said that to me.  Relatives or not, I think I would have a very hard time not at least trying to correct their misimpression -- especially if they ever repeat that ignorant "play cancer" line again.  If they're female, I think I would be tempted to take them aside, remove my shirt, show them my reconstructed chest, and ask if that looks like something they'd like to play?  If they're guys, maybe I'd have a tastefully done photo ready to whip out to show them the lengths you had to go to with your "play cancer."  Sorry, but they're totally ignorant about breast cancer, and I couldn't walk away without at least an attempt to educate them, starting with letting them nicely know how hurtful and offensive this little term they've come up with is to you and  to anyone who's had bc.    Deanna

  • Megadotz
    Megadotz Member Posts: 302
    edited January 2012

    A lot of us have relatives like that.

    I find helpful to think of them like dessert wine ... best appreciated in small quantities Wink

    Take care.

  • Scuba_duchess
    Scuba_duchess Member Posts: 460
    edited January 2012

    Corrine, think we had pretty similar DX and Tx.  100% agree - sorry someone is so unthinking.  I had a similar experience, my older sister was also diagnosed at 46, but stage II, so had chemo.  I had someone tell me that since I didn't lose my hair, I had it easy...  Seriously!  My DH tried to look at it like they were somehow trying to make me feel better, but I wasn't buying it. 

    I sort of agree with trying to educate people, but with a 2X4!  But if it stresses you out, or they don't get it, walk away from it and focus on you getting better and moving on... 

  • Leah_S
    Leah_S Member Posts: 8,458
    edited January 2012

    Play cancer! What fun! And I got to have my breasts cut off as a prize!

    Idiots.

    Leah

  • changes
    changes Member Posts: 622
    edited January 2012

    Wow! I'm amazed you didn't slap them into next year. I'm with Deanna - I think a remark like that merits ripping your shirt off to show the surgical scars. Don't get me wrong - I would rather have Stage 1, Grade 1, than Stage III, Grade 3, and I AM grateful that it was caught "early". But our stage 1 "play cancers" still have the potential to kill us. None of us would have agreed to surgery, radiation, and hormonal therapy otherwise. You should post this on the thread about dumbest things people have said to us.

    Karen

  • Susie123
    Susie123 Member Posts: 804
    edited January 2012
    I like the rip off your shirt and show them the effects of your "play cancer". I'm sure they would be speechless and feel like total heels. Seriously, I would do that in a heartbeat if they kept being so insensitive. They would certainly learn very quickly that there's noting "play" about what we've been through. (As I get older I seem to be losing my social filter and have no patience for stupid!)Smile
  • marilyn113
    marilyn113 Member Posts: 118
    edited January 2012

    I have to admit that I was naive about early stage BC before I was diagnosed.  (Although I certainly would never had said something like that!)  The stress of waiting for results, making potentally life and death decisions about treatment, enduring side effects, and worrying about recurrence for the rest of your life affects all of us no matter what the stage.  People who haven't walked in our shoes don't understand this.  If these are people you see on a regular basis I would say "I hope you never find out what it's really like to have cancer."

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited January 2012

    Corrine - I know what you mean!  People have no clue.  Bottom line is "there is no cure"!!! I have said that to people.....I was also stage 1 but that doesn't mean it wasn't hard!  I had a BMX and chemo!   I don't know why people are so clueless and hurtful!  Sorry you had to experience this.  Hugs!

  • coraleliz
    coraleliz Member Posts: 1,523
    edited January 2012

    Very poor choice of words. They may have been comparing your situation to someone's who didn't fair too well. Sometimes I have similar thoughts(towards my BC) when I hear about others with more advanced/ aggressive BC. Mostly I find people wanting to make me out to be sicker than I am. I prefer those who say nothing because they don't know what to say.

    As far as relatives go, I've never forgiven my MIL for something she said after my dtr died. MIL is no longer living & I'm still not forgiving her. DH & I live far from either of our families, so I seldom have to bite the bullet & be nice.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2012

    I've been lurking in the forums after some initial posts around my biopsy and diagnosis about 3 weeks ago.  This post has really hit me hard, however (I have not had surgery yet but am Grade 1 at this point) and I decided to de-lurk for it.  With apologies, this is going to be a rather lengthy vent (or rant).

    This post brought to mind something I've been discussing with my husband, sister, and best friend about how a disturbing number of people react when I let them know I have been diagnosed with breast cancer.  I can't tell you how many times I am first asked, "Did they catch it early?" and then received a complete dismissal once I've told them yes.  More times than not, I am also treated to a story of how they know someone else who "really" had breast cancer and how bad the chemo was, etc.  My best friend (who worked with me for several years at a law firm she is still at) told me over lunch this weekend that this was exactly the same reaction she received when telling two female attorneys at the firm about my diagnosis.  Bless her heart, she was furious at their reaction on my behalf. 

    I don't want to take away ANYTHING from our sisters (and some brothers) who are battling with horrendous diagnoses and treatments.  As I lurk, I am struck by how they are such great sources of strength, wisdom, and inspiration.

    Here's my own battle with that, however (coupled with sincere gratitude that I AM very lucky to have had my own BC found early). 

    I am still scared...not so much about the current cancer because I know the statistics and know that this one isn't going to kill me.  But I am scared about need for surgery(ies) and the decisions I am making and what that means for my life.  I've made those decisions carefully, but also based on real fears of recurrence and new occurrences, and being very real about my anxiety levels for the future.  I'm already a statistical anomaly and I'm not willing to trust in those statistics, for this decision, again.

    I still find myself on an emotional rollercoaster and sometimes even can't say the words, "I have breast cancer" out loud (I usually say, "I've been diagnosed with breast cancer."  For some reason, that seems to put just enough emotional distance between me and reality.) 

    I have had to fight massive internal battles over whether to take the BS's "what I can get away with" (lumpectomy and radiation) or to give in to my very real anxiety over spending the next 20-30 years worrying every time I get the (now increased) mammograms and, I've been told, yearly MRIs. 

    Another feeling of being considered "less" came from an insurance company who won't pay for BRCA testing since "only" my mother has had breast cancer (and colon, and now lung), while completely overlooking the fact that I have absolutely no idea of my paternal family history and no way of finding out (my folks divorced when I was 3 and I've never been in contact).  I know it is a business decision and was always a crap shoot since I can't prove I fall into some of the categories that they use to justify the expense of the testing, but this feeling dismissed issue becomes cumulative after a while (and, yes, we're appealing but I have no real hope that this will change anything).

    I struggle mightily to balance my fear of the future with my gratitude that it was found early.  I guiltily self-talk through all the "it could have been so much worse scenarios" and then feel miserable when the anxiety and nausea hit (and the "feeling a little sorry for myself" when MY cancer doesn't warrant someone else's serious concern) because it certainly must mean I'm not grateful enough to not have "serious cancer".  That gets even worse when someone questions my decision to have a BMX when I could have something much less radical and I end up feeling like I HAVE to explain that decision. 

    As many of you all have so elegantly stated, it's tempting to whip out the "scars" (my physical ones are still in the future but I'd love to whip out some of the emotional scars that making some life changing decisions have caused).  You've also given the appropriate short answer...people who insinuate or act as if our cancer is "play" or not serious don't really deserve our consideration.  I am also fortunate that none of these people play any key roles in my life and happiness so it's a tad easier to dismiss their insensitivities.

    But I hope that, someday, some of them will realize that their ignorance and inappropriate responses made our already difficult journey a little harder....and that they will learn from that.

    I recently heard a quote (attributed to several sources for several different situations) that I love and think fits our shared situation perfectly, regardless of the numbers next to our diagnoses.  "If you have been there, no explanation is necessary.  If you NOT been there, no explanation is possible."

    Thanks for hearing me out.  Back to lurking (but with love, gratitude, and hugs for you who share so freely).

    Namaste and Light to all.  Elisabeth

  • MizMarie
    MizMarie Member Posts: 332
    edited January 2012

    "Play" cancer????  Unbelievable.  That's on the same level as saying cancer is a "gift".  Yeah, and I'd like to return mine, please - it doesn't fit.

  • ptdreamers
    ptdreamers Member Posts: 1,080
    edited January 2012

    Great quote Ysa.  I'll get in line right behind you Miz Marie. Some gift.

  • BlueCowgirl
    BlueCowgirl Member Posts: 667
    edited January 2012

    This is SO upsetting to me. I can't imagine what kind of person would say something like this. I'm so sorry.

    Regardless of staging, we are all dealing with freaking CANCER here...People never cease to astound me. Hugs to you, Corrine, and everyone else who has gotten similarly ignorant comments. 

  • Mallory107
    Mallory107 Member Posts: 223
    edited January 2012

    Wow-who said that to you?  If it was part of your medical team I think you should bring it to their superior. 

    My personal opinion on this is that the whole pinktober campaign has served to kind of 'glamourize' breast cancer -like its one big pink sorority.  I think this serves to desensitize people from the seriousness of the disease. 

  • beacon800
    beacon800 Member Posts: 922
    edited January 2012

    SpecialK said it just right. :)



    It's rather like calling a terrorist a "play terrorist" because he was caught before he brought the plane down.



    Some people try to minimize things because they have a hard time facing the truth or they think they are making you feel better. It's disappointing, but just move on.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited January 2012

    beacon - thanks!  I like your terrorist analogy.  It is sad to me that we are subjected to other people's agendas or character flaws when we are battling to keep our own heads on straight!

  • ICanDoThis
    ICanDoThis Member Posts: 1,473
    edited January 2012

    This all said, sometimes I do feel guilty that my cancer was slow-growing, when there are so many young women with small children who has to go mano-a-mano with Stage 3 grade 3.

    But," play cancer"? No. Not when I see women dying who started at my diagnosis.

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited January 2012

    Just thought of a good comeback:  Yeah, it's a little like a play heart attack.

  • Leah_S
    Leah_S Member Posts: 8,458
    edited January 2012

    Or how about, "Tag! You're 'it'! Now you get to play and have your breast amputated!"

    Try it next time, Corinne, you never know when even an idiot will wake up.

    Leah

  • CorinneM1
    CorinneM1 Member Posts: 539
    edited January 2012

    Leah.

    I am using this. Love it. Thank you.

  • sewingnut
    sewingnut Member Posts: 1,129
    edited January 2012

    Try applying for any type of insurance with "play cancer" and see how far it gets you. Some people are just plain STUPID!!!

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited January 2012

    [EDITED TO ADD:  I am sorry...I didn't realize I was in the Stage I and II forum.  Please excuse my instrusion...if it is offensive, I will willingly delete the post...but I just felt so strongly about it...]

    I would like to jump in here, having been dx'd with stage 0.  I am, of course, very grateful that we found this at the moment it started.  I am, of course, utterly grateful that I don't have to have chemo or rads and that I feel comfortable opting out of tamoxifen.  But here, with no invasion, couldn't get any earlier, I don't feel like I have been play-acting.  My left breast is gone. G-O-N-E.  I am still feeling the effects of the surgery itself, getting tired at times when I might not have before...and this is nearly 4 months out from surgery.   I feel like my entire life has changed.  I see everything differently.  AND, most importantly, I am the one that gets to decide how I feel about it.  Not anyone else.  AND I don't feel like I have been play acting.  This has been real, dramatic and I feel and have felt dramatic change.  Anyone that would belittle my cancer because it wasn't invasive is belittling me and all that I have felt and all that I have defined as important.  I would be incredibly insulted by the "Play Cancer" remark.  Utterly insulted.  And the part of me that is so self-critical would feel horrible, like I'd done something wrong.  What kind of person would want to make you feel THAT???

    Corinne...I am so sorry your relatives were so insulting.  I hope that you find the strength to put off the comment like water off a duck's back.  Sometimes easier said than done.  But as so many have said here...who has the time for idiots now???

  • bevin
    bevin Member Posts: 1,902
    edited January 2012

    Corrine, wow, I am sorry you had to listen to such insensitivity.

    Others have said it so well, no one can know what cancer does to you , your body, your mind until they hear those words themselves. I would probably respond the way someone above stated it " I hope you never have to go through this yourself". Hold your head up high, be the better person and don't let them impact you. 

    Wishes for strength as you deal with these types of issues and the real worries in your life that cancer brings.

    Hugs

    Bevin

  • Lucky48
    Lucky48 Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2012

    Play Cancer? Are you kidding? It never ceases to amaze me the things people will say. I am so sorry to hear this. There is nothing playful about this at any stage. Stage 0 is still a "stage", and is still scary. Of course you are grateful, of course you feel lucky (me, too, hence the name Lucky48).

    I'd really like to kick this person in the N*ts. Nuthin' like a bunch of sistahs to back you up!

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