January 2012 chemo

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  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited January 2012
    Thanks, Rachel - you're so right, we all have our own demons to wrestle and our own paths to walk.  Even though we're on this journey together, each of us is having such varied experiences and SE's.  I can't tell you how wonderfully calming and peaceful it is to "meet up" with you all every day, hear how you're doing, share in your funny hair-cut and wig stories, and try to help each other through.  I feel like an "outsider" in my own life these days; very few people really understand the physical and emotional pain I'm going through.  But I always know I'm safe here - and that makes every day so much easier to bear.  Thank you all so much!!
  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited January 2012
    rachelvk -  I will definitely mention the tingling to my MO.  Maybe I should call tomorrow?  I even have a little tingling in my left hand tonight.   I don't know if it is true neuropathy, but I also read something about Adriamycin giving some numbness (hand-foot syndrome).  God, I hope that isn't that and it will be gone by the morning.   Just scared since that is one SE that you can't take pills to make it go away, and I have only had one A/C treatment.     All of these poisons scare me, I'm sure just like the rest of you.
  • PCBarbie66
    PCBarbie66 Member Posts: 84
    edited January 2012

    I bought a variety of hats...hated the wig idea.  Turns out an older knit hat is my favorite, apparently my ears hate hats!!  The scarves are nice inside..but tooooo cold outside.  I also HATE being bald!

    Going for #3 AC on Thursday...just got over 9 crappy days and I'm finally on the good days!

    Catwhispurrer~ I also have Neuropathy and mine happened the first time around as well, on my finger tips, all but the pinky's.  Tingling sensation and sensitivity.  Gets better by the 9th day, mine tend to be so sensitive its hard to type, or tap them on anything.  I wear soft fleecy type gloves all day (The cheap $4 ones you find at any store), to deaden the sensitivity and it helps. No Numbness at all, and nothing on my feet.

    I also can't take the blood test from the finger tips anymore...the pain of it throbs all through Chemo and I have to wear a padded bandage for 3-4 days on that finger after that...almost made them stop last time the pain was soooo bad.  I switched hands from the 1st to the 2nd Chemo, thought it would help, nope worse than the 1st time.  Anyone else getting the CBC from their finger tips??

  • grateful33
    grateful33 Member Posts: 58
    edited January 2012

    Hello everyone

    I have not posted since my first dd AC as I ,like Lynn, have had a very rough go of things. I had unrelenting nausea for the first 9 days of my cycle as well as shaking,extreme fatigue , blurred vision and bone pain from the Neulasta. I have been reading all your posts and you have all given me hope and strength over the last 12 days.

    AC#2 is Wed am (am on every 2 weeks) Tried Emend, Zofran and Compazine for nausea. Wondering if there are other options out there? Will see my MO tomorrow. Finally feel semi normal today. I too have had a difficult time allowing myself to "just rest" without feeling guilty. However, my body does not allow me to do more.

    Thanks for allowing me to vent. Hugs to everyone

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited January 2012

    CatWhispurrer - Definitely call. The tingling could be the early signs. I take B-6, and some other people have suggested a supplement called acetyl-L-carnitine. My MO asked me to wait before trying that (already on so many different things as it is). I also seem a little numb on the very tips, but that seems to go away (and I type so much it could be callouses!).

    PCBarbie - I hope you find some hats that you can rock. I don't like being bald, but I'm doing okay with the options.

    I finally put together my 'hair' journey as of now - before, the thinning, and now, with hats. Not the best photos (the sweater and TEs make me look like the Terminator), but they work for now. You can check it here:

    http://www1.snapfish.com/snapfish/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=4893775016/a=4949599_4949599/otsc=SHR/otsi=SALBlink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/

  • WaveWhisperer
    WaveWhisperer Member Posts: 898
    edited January 2012

    Catwhispurr, I agree with Rachel that you should tell your MO about the neuropathy. I've also had it in my feet and left palm, but only briefly. Every time it starts, I wonder whether it will subside or stick around.

    Rachel, hope you're feeling better today. As I mentioned in a post on another thread today, I'm heading out for T/C #3 today, and I'm worried that the SE will be the worst this time.

    And count me in on hating being bald. I find that I am now obsessed with other women's beautiful hair. I was in a deli yesterday frequented by college students, and oh, their long, beautiful thick hair! I was so jealous. One of the worst things is knowing how long it will take to regrow to its previous shoulder length, and worrying whether it will be thinner or grayer. It will really piss me off to have to continue to wear a wig long after chemo is over. 

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited January 2012

    i just had one TC and have lost most of my hair. I am going today to discuss either AC or CMF , I hope my haie comes back. Not bald but almost

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited January 2012

    Bela I think TC must be harder on hair.  I'm 5 days into my second AC and still have my hair although it is itchy and sore.  I gave myself a buzz before last treatment anticipating the hair going but it is hanging on.

    Peggy 

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited January 2012

    Rachel:  Thanks for sharing your photos.  I've been wondering what my hair would (likely) look like as it starts to fall out.  Your photos helped erase that fear of the unknown (there's so much of that fear in all of this disease!) 

    Your hats and scarves are beautiful!!  I haven't been able to find non-winter-type hats (like your first, cute hat) to wear yet, but I have an abundance of wool cloches.  And your scarf is gorgeous!  I'm scrambling to find stuff to wear because I really thought I'd be wearing a wig but I'm pretty sure now that's not going to happen.  Bought a cheap one that is just totally the wrong color; got one from the wig bank through ACS and it's just awful.  Scarves and hats are totally the way to go for me.

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited January 2012

    Peggy, Thanks for the reply. Does it grow back? do I need to shave for it to come back? I am so lost. Worst part is if I choose CMF I wont loose hair just thinning but is that worst? I hope my hair comes back :((((((( 

    Bela 

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited January 2012

    Bela - You can look into the cold caps some people have mentioned. They're expensive and take a lot of effort, but they seem to work, so you may feel it's worth it. Losing or regaining your hair doesn't have anything to do with shaving. Most of us shave it off once it starts falling out because otherwise we're left, at least for a while, with bald patches. Most of it does fall out, and once it falls out, it usually doesn't start regrowing until after your treatment is done. How long it takes to return depends, but it's a good bet that most of us will still have very, very short hair at best a year from now. For many of us, losing our hair is one of the hardest things, so take a lot of time to think about it and come to grips with it. There are good wigs out there and some resources (tlcdirect.com has some great options, a local breast cancer resource center in my area has a wig bank, etc). Some of us have decided that this is really the time to experiment - I'm finally trying life out as a redhead and loving it, plus having some good hats.

    And the best advice I can pass on - load up on great, dangly earrings. They make you look beautiful no matter what is on top of your head!!! 

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited January 2012

    Thanks Rachel, I appreciate the advice, I do have a wig. I am just afraid hair wont grow back but you are right come to grips. Most important is to focus on different looks.

    Bela 

  • PCBarbie66
    PCBarbie66 Member Posts: 84
    edited January 2012

    WaveWhispere~When I watch TV I find myself stairing at thier hair and clevage (I had a BMX back in November) and never hearing a word they say!!  My Close friend told me thier overated..

    Racheal~You Look Beautiful in all your photo, thank you for sharing with us..I do have some more hats coming from Ebay hopefully some won't hurt my ears Undecided and they were all pretty reasonable.

    Off to find out the results of the BRCA 1&2...

  • faithhopenluv
    faithhopenluv Member Posts: 323
    edited January 2012

    My first treatment is 2/2 - I've learned so much from you, thank you again.  What about flossing?  - I've seen lots about mouth care and using a sensitive toothbrush, etc but haven't read anything about that.  Anyone have any tips?

     Also, I know about the biotene and the salt/baking soda swish, but are they covering the same SE?  should I do both or pick one that works best?

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited January 2012

    rachel - Thank you for the pics.  You look fabulous, love the scarves and hats on you!

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited January 2012

    faithhopenluv:  I've been told not to floss during treatment - I guess the potential for infection is greater with flossing?  I have semi-awful teeth (really bad genetics) and the thought of not flossing is driving me crazy.  So I bought some Glide, and very gently wiggle it in between my teeth every couple of days, just to dislodge excess food particles - I am not flossing with my usual vigor, under the gums.

    I'm also using the Biotene mouthwash and toothpaste.  I didn't like that my teeth still felt gritty (dirty) after brushing so now, when I'm done brushing, I dip my toothbrush in baking soda and give them a once-over to get rid of any residual grit.  I don't know if that's why, but I've had only a couple of non-painful mouthsores, and two episodes of taste buds/canker sores on my tongue.  

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited January 2012

    I've been flossing, but my MO said just to be careful. I have a gap between two teeth after a filling last year that always gets stuffed, so I'd rather take the risk. But I have been careful. I've also been chewing gum more often - it helps clean things up a bit and just makes everything taste better. I should give my toothbrush a good run through boiling water, though, just to kill anything that might be lurking.

    I've found the most frustrating thing is the 'immunity' issue. I don't get my blood counts checked regularly - unless I wind up in the ER - so I have to go through days 7-10 assuming that it's open season on Rachel for germs and just do my best to ward them off. I already posted (though on the Dec thread, maybe) that I'm feeling like Monk from the TV show - give me a wipe, now!!!

    Went to order that other wig. Not quite as 'super' as the first time I tried it on, but I'll go ahead and get it. And apparently the freebie I got at the local wig bank at the breast cancer resource center may be the same brand - at least it's the same high quality, which is kind of nice. The woman who does the wig fittings at this place said one big difference between the low and high quality wigs is that the better ones really make it look like the scalp is under all that hair, and she's right.

    Good luck to everyone today. 

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2012

    Two hours until I get my first radiation tx.

  • NCbeachgal
    NCbeachgal Member Posts: 181
    edited January 2012

    Grateful-ugh...I feel your pain! I'm so sorry you had such a rough treatment cycle. I did too the first treatment. The nausea was hideous! Perhaps try Ativan. My MO recommended it, along with the Zofran and it worked! Within 30 minutes of taking it, I felt good enough for a walk. I also started acupuncture. I don't know if the Ativan or the acupuncture is responsible for less intense side effects, but I'm sticking with both! Good luck! Treatment 2 was better and way more manageable. Don't get me wrong, I still feel a bit "off" but it's such an improvement from," if I speak, move, eat, or smell food, I may puke!" I hope your second treatment is better. Please mention the side effects to your care team. Most likely adjustments can be made so you can feel a little more human.



    WaveWhisper-I love Charleston and your photo is beautiful representation of your charming city. About the hair...I can't believe how long it takes post final chemo to get hair back! There's a thread about hair regrowth. It's called hair, hair, hair and more questions about hair (something like that). I check it out from time to time for an honest look at the future.



    I have also found some lovely head covers on etsy.com. I search chemo head scarves in the handmade section. Many of the offerings are handmade by people who have had chemo induced hair loss, so they know the deal and what works best. Most are very reasonably priced as well.



    Take care today!

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited January 2012

    Funny, I was just on etsy as I read your post, NCbeachgal!  I'm ordering a couple of Beaubeau's this morning but wanted to see if I could find something a little less expensive, too.  Really nice selections!

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited January 2012

    Grateful33..

    I have had the same debilitating SE's as you. Neausea, blurry vision, shakes, etc. My Onc has me come in the day after treatment for my Neulasta, more fluids, steroids, and IV anti-naeausea meds. Made the second go a little easier but it was still rough. I was also put on Reglan (Metoclopramide), ativan, and phenergan for my oral meds. The compazine was contributing to my blurry vision so I had to stop that.

    I wish you well on your treamtent tomorrow. There are other meds and treatemnts to help with the SE's. Definitely ask your MO what can be done different to make it more manahgeable. Chemo is NOT for sissies! HUGS!!!

    Rachel- Thank you for posting your pictures. I find you so brave and uplifting everytime I read one of your posts. I am patchy bald right now and I will be glad when I am ALL bald. I have a had a headache from the tightness for 3 days. I've had enough, just be gone hair... Smile

    Good luck to everyone having treatments this week. Praying for minimal SE's for everyone!!!

  • GeorgiaRai
    GeorgiaRai Member Posts: 175
    edited January 2012

    I haven't posted since before my 1st TAC on 1/17, but I've been reading and following you all every day.  Well, except days 1-5, during which I couldn't form a coherent thought, much less read or post one.  I was at the hospital 10 hours on the day of treatment - for port placement, doctor appointment, then chemo - then back the next day for Neulasta.  I had a few days of minor digestion issues and pain/discomfort at the port site.  Oh, and did I mention the heavy period that is now on day 12? Boo. Still, I know so many of you are having such a hard with so many bad side effects; I'm so sorry for all that everyone is going through.

    I am getting my hair buzzed this afternoon.  It started abandoning ship yesterday (Day14) and I can't handle the constant strands falling out.  I'm not getting any wigs, but have a couple hats including a cute one from TLC that is suitable for work.  Which reminds me; this is my 2nd week back at work (missed 4 days including infusion day)!  I'm useless after I get home at 5:00, but as I'm so grateful for every day I can keep my job.

    Sending each of you all the strength and encouragement I can muster up.  Hope today's a good day.

  • Lumpynme
    Lumpynme Member Posts: 747
    edited January 2012

    rachel:

    thx for sharing the photos!

    another meds question:

    my HER2 is negative-should i be on herceptin?

    i ask this cuz i go this week for the MUGA

  • Kitchenella
    Kitchenella Member Posts: 279
    edited January 2012

    Lumpy  Herceptin is for Her+ folks like me.

    Peg

  • Lumpynme
    Lumpynme Member Posts: 747
    edited January 2012

    that's what i read/thought--ok--was just wondering- i intend to question him (MO) about this if he insists!

  • grateful33
    grateful33 Member Posts: 58
    edited January 2012

    NCBeachgal- Thank you for the Ativan tip. I will definitely ask today. You give me hope that AC#2 can be better!

    Momof2inME- Sorry to hear that you had similar side effects. That is really interesting about the Compazine giving you blurred vision. I will talk to MO about that today. Thank you for telling me that I am not a sissy! That really helped me. Sometimes I feel so "weak" compared to everyone else. Never felt that way before as I am usually so independent and strong.

    Racelvk- thanks for posting pics. You look great and I will use your tip about the big earrings. I feel the same way about Day 7 to 10 and worrying about immunity. I feel like I'm becoming OCD about it all..but want to try to avoid the ER!

    Thanks again ladies. Wishing you all a side effect free week!!

    Hugs

  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited January 2012

    Hit my first real bump in the road. After five days of 'not-too-bad' SEs following my first dd A/C, I ended up in the hospital last night with unremitting stomach cramps after a day's bout with diarrhea. I haven't been in that much pain in I can't think when. We arrived around midnight, after the oncologist suggested heading in to the ER, and once they hit me with a whopping dose of dilaudid I actually felt like living again. We made it back home by four am.

    Now I'm just wiped out. And so grateful to be relatively comfortable again. This really is a day to day type of endeavor. I've been in recovery for over 22 years, so the concept of one day at a time is not new to me. But that dilaudid high? Wow. I haven't felt anything like that for a long, long time.

    Annie 

  • FLDREAMER
    FLDREAMER Member Posts: 166
    edited February 2012

    Kitchenella:   I see that you 'missed' me.  I've been away.  Literally!  I must confess something good that happened to me....not cancer related.   Before I was ever diagnosed, I won some money at our local casino.  Then, I stupidly bet it away again.  Anyway, the result was that I won a 4 day all expense paid trip to Las Vegas.  I wasn't sure I'd be able to take advantage of it.  But my surgeon said I could and my MO said we could delay the chemo for one week.  So, I've just returned from a nice little trip away from home.  I had a friend meet me there and she treated me to a show on the strip as well as meals so my extra expense was very limited.   I actually forgot I have cancer.  And I hardly spent any money at all!  (No more casino....can't afford it).  I must say though that I wouldn't want to fly while on chemo.  One of the connecting flights was verryy turbulent!

    Now I'm back to reality.  My chemo starts Thursday, Feb. 2.  I went to a cancer support group mtg last night and started crying when I saw the women who've lost their hair.  I've been nonchalant about it all but I think it's dawning on me that although the surgery is over, the real journey is about to begin.

    I'll be back on here more regularly now.  Again, I am so grateful to read all your posts and will soon be more active again.

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited January 2012

    Oh Annie, I am so sorry. I had that with my TC and now going for AC and reading your post I am scared.I had so much diarhea. How did the diarhea stop?

    Thanks

    bela 

    ps I ended up in hospital for 12 days thats how bad mine was 

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2012

    Feel like crap today - day 5 after #2. I felt so good yesterday. What happened? Spent most of today in the recliner. Ugh. Only worked 1/2 day. I'm sooo sick of this already. Whine, whine. When will I feel good again? My mouth is "hot" and water is disgusting, even the flavored kind. Whine. Whine. Sorry, ladies....I'm having a pity party here. It sucks...the weather is 60 and my boys are outside playing street hockey and I want to go out an play too!!!

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