Did anybody do the hcg diet b4 getting diagnosed??

tjohnson1971
tjohnson1971 Member Posts: 97

I did the hcg diet, you take homeopathic drops, to trick your body into thinking it's pregnant and while on a 500 calorie diet, you are not hungry because the drops are supposed to eat up extra fat.  I know it sounds crazy, maybe it is, but it worked for  me.  I did it April for 40 days and again in July for only 3 wks.  Anyway, I lost 27 lbs total.  Seems to have helped me change my diet.  Have kept it off.

Anyway, the reason I am asking is, I was wondering if this may have been why a lump showed up on the mammo.  Here is a theory a friend of mine has: That maybe the HCG similated pregnancy hormore and tricked my body into thinking there was more estrogen, and that's what made something  grow-celluar.  

I don't even think it matters, but wanted to know if you guys have heard anything about this?  If you think I am crazy for even bringing it up, that's fine. I don't have BC, I have LCIS and ALH, no lump felt, found on 1st mammo in July, lumpectomy done last week.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    I can't answer regarding the breast changes but my friend who did this 3 months ago has had horrible health problems starting 1 month ago, and has finally been diagnosed with a tumor on her perathyroid. Another who did this same diet thing ended up with gallbladder issues. I have no idea if it is all related but it does make me wonder....

  • Lisa75
    Lisa75 Member Posts: 137
    edited December 2011
    Nov 2010 my left breast was lactating. I had a mammo and sonogram, all clear. Dr brushed it off to being hormones during my cycle. She did  mention my tissue was dense. (I've never been pregnant).

    Around Sept this year a friend of mine introduced me to HCG. I researched how it worked, etc and started in Oct. I only last a few days on it and quit taking it knowing it wasn't for me.

    Well in early Nov, my lactation had blood in it. 2 weeks ago (after mammo, sono and a biopsy for the dense area just as a precaution) I was been diagnosed with DCIS, stage 0 grade 2.
    I can only wonder if this was just a duct ecstasia, and then somehow the HCG accelerated something. dunno.
  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited December 2011

    Seems plausible that your hormones were being messed with. But the stuff was growing in your breast before you started the diet. The weight loss may have made it easier for the mammo to pick up the abnormality.

    500 calorie diets (with or without hormone manipulation) are starvation diets. You WILL lose weight. Lots of it. And usually not without some sort of health issue attached, especially with the gall bladder.

    I think the hcg stuff has been banned now, or at least there's talk about it.

  • flash
    flash Member Posts: 1,685
    edited January 2012

    BC that is hormone sensitive had to be growing before the diet.  It really takes a long time before it is large enough a group of cells to be identifiable.  Did the diet mess up your body.  probably but you did have it before the diet.

    You can damage the gall bladder on ANY diet that does not have any fat in it. You have to have some small amount of healthy fat in your diet. 

  • tjohnson1971
    tjohnson1971 Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2012

    Flash, I agree, I think it was already there or developing anyway.  

     No the Hcg diet did not mess up my body.  In fact, it's been the only diet that I could loss more than 10lbs on and keep it off, including working out.  (Although Christmas break I did gain 5 lbs from all the junk we made but that should go right back off after a week of being "good" again).  There is fat in the diet from the proteins you eat.  The diet taught me portion size, how to like fruit again, fill my plate with half veggies,  drinking enough water and tea, so I think I benefited from the diet and would do it again.  I was overweight for 10years which is sad and I am not going back to that feeling again.  I lost 28lbs.  Still would like to loss another 15.

    Anne, I kept wondering too if the lack of extra pounds they were able to find it on the first mammo more easily because my boobs were able to be squished more?!  =)

    Also Anne, I noticed you had IDC in 2002 and ILC in 2007.  What did you do for treatment in 2002?  And did you do another treatment for the ILC?  I am hoping that the 6month mammo plan will be a good plan.  I didn't realize that a person could get ductal and lobular cancers, same breast?  Sorry for so many questions.  Were you able to feel something?  I couldn't feel anything so thank goodness for mammo.   

  • bevin
    bevin Member Posts: 1,902
    edited January 2012

    Hi TJohnson, can I ask what type of HCG you used? Drops, the official shots injected and prescribed by a doctor? I'd love to try this. Tired of not being able to lose any weight. If you don't mind sharing I'd appreciate it.

  • tjohnson1971
    tjohnson1971 Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2012

    Hi bevin, So sorry it has taken me so long to reply.  I recently purchased some Hcg drops from Cost Co ( I know weird, but I was trying to save money).  After taking them for about 2wks now, I don't feel they work as well as the other brand I have tried.  Plus these ones taste horrible.  I don't smoke but imagine it to taste like tobacco spit!  The regular drops are tasteless.  Go to LiquidHcgDiet.com, they have an awesome online support via Facebook.  You can ask question daily and get fresh ideas from others doing the diet too.  Be sure to take your multivitamins, drink plenty of water (half your body weight) and try not to cheat.  You will be amazed how quickly it come off, and how good you feel.  It also teaches you portion control.  Get a scale, one for you to weigh yourself first thing in the morning and a food scale too.  It always surprises me what a "real" serving of protein really looks like before you cook it!  If you need any more support or questions with the diet, I will get back to you sooner than before, good luck, tj

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2012

    a cousin of mine just lost over 30 pounds with the HCG diet; she also just had to have emergency surgery to remove  her gallbladder. Wonder if there is a connection there?

  • Kim137
    Kim137 Member Posts: 183
    edited February 2012

    I did the HCG diet (injections) in April-May of last year. Began having nipple discharge in June. My Gyn brushed it off as "hormonal. Keep an eye on it". In July my breast began to shrink and have skin changes. Got a second opinion in August. Diagnosed with DCIS in September. Mastectomy in October, found micro mets in sentinel node. I've wondered about any connections to the diet also.

  • scrappylady
    scrappylady Member Posts: 43
    edited February 2012

    Hi All, I have done 3 rounds of the HCG drops and lost 54 pounds, kept it off since December. I truly do not think this had anything to do with my diagnosis (my mom had the exact same kind/stage of BC diagnosed about 4 years ago). For me, having muscular dystrophy as well and not being able to exercise, this diet truly changed my life. I used to eat all the wrong food, fast food, sugars, processed foods; now my brain is reset to think an apple with almond butter is the biggest "sweet" treat in the world! I only eat when I'm hungry, have been off the drops since before Christmas and maintaining my weight loss. Thank God it retrained my brain into not being a stress eater anymore or I could have easily packed on another gosh knows how many pounds through all of this diagnosis, testing, etc. I liken myself to a heroin addict; there are some foods I know I just can never eat again because I would easily "fall off the wagon" and possibly go out of control again. Anyway, I really do not think the HCG (if bought from a reputible source and if the protocol is followed correctly) has any adverse health effects. It truely saved my sanity, self esteem and taught me a healthy way to eat and relate to food, which I know will be immensely beneficial during my breast cancer journey. I can't imagine what trouble mny body would be in if I was going through all of this and still putting all that crap food in my body. My only downside is I've been told I cannot/should not do another round of HCG till after my surgery & radiation; which I totally understand, I need more fuel for my body to fight this, so I will continue on 1500 healthy calories and maintain my current weight loss. Sorry this is SOOO long, I just really feel like HCG changed me for the better and truly saved my obese self from self-destructing.

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited February 2012

    It sounds like you used a very sensible approach to eating along with taking the HCG to help stop the cravings for the wrong kind of foods, and you realize that you must continue your new healthy eating habits in order to maintain your healthy weight.  That's wonderful!

     I'm certain taking HCG didn't cause your bc because that was developing long before you started the diet.  It is probably better and healthier for you that you have lost some weight and are on a good healthy eating path because that is the key to keeping bc from recurring.

    You can keep you weight under control during treatment by eliminating white carbs and sugar from your diet and eating more veggies, fruits and protein.  That may already be part of your plan.  It will keep your body in an alkaline state in which it is hard for cancer cells to multiply.  I started this diet the minute I was dx and I have lost 14 pounds without even trying.  

    All the best to you, and good luck with your ongoing quest for good health.

    Sending you lots of positive energy! 

  • cari_kay
    cari_kay Member Posts: 13
    edited March 2013

    I posted here earlier this week.  Yes, I developed a breast lump during this diet.  I've never had one before and had a good mammogram just a couple years ago.  I actually had to have an EKG because of this diet, whether it was due to the drops or the 500-calorie diet, just don't know for sure.   Anyhow, during that EKG, the nurse found a lump and told me to get it checked out.  I have an appointment for an ultrasound and mammogram this week.  I really don't believe this is a coincidence.  Hopefully it is nothing serious.  Had a brief panic over it today but I'm okay again :)  Oh, and while I lost about 15 lbs before I went off the diet, I had gained back about half before the EKG so I really don't think it was hiding in there  I was keeping measurements and I didn't lose much in that area at all.

  • hcgnew1p
    hcgnew1p Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2013

    Lifestyle changes don’t happen overnight. Whether or not you begin today, three months from now will still come. You can be that much closer to your goals with the help of HCG drops. You can be the best you can be if you make it a priority. How important is your body to you? Are you satisfied with how you are caring for it? How could your life be better if you were to make some changes? You have one body for life. 

  • rockermom66
    rockermom66 Member Posts: 69
    edited May 2013

    I just saw this in the active topics. 

    I did the HCG drops back in October 2012 for 4 weeks only. I was diagnosed Jan 4th. 
    BUT, the spot that had the cancer was being checked every 6 months prior for 1.5 yrs so it wasn't the cause but maybe it exacerbated it?

    I had thought about this too.

  • Sdanielle1
    Sdanielle1 Member Posts: 4
    edited November 2013


    Hello, i too did the hcg homeopathic drops for 3 weeks from october 19 to november 8. Then the evening of november 8 my breasts were extremely sore and tender. I went to the gyn on wednesday who stated she did not feel anything during my breast exam. She then sent me for mammogram and ultrasound. According to the radiologists, she stated there was a 98% probability my 2 lumps she saw were fibroadenoma but she recommended a biopsy. I am scheduled to meet with the surgeon Wednesday and soooo scared. I am 34 years old. Lost about 17 pounds but this health issue is not worth 1 pound. I really think there is a connections. Very scared of being the "2%"....

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited November 2013


    if you were using over the counter hcg drops they are homeopathic and have no detectable level of yhe hormone in them. 60% of women have fibrocystic breasts.

  • adeb06
    adeb06 Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2014

    Wish I had never messed with hcg diet.  Do not have any breast cancer in my family.  Was recently diagnosed with lobular carcinoma in situ.  

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited May 2014

    If you used the drops they don't even have a detectable amount of hcg in them. It is more likely a coincidence, and doctors estimate most cancers have been growing for 7-10 years before they are detectible, so likelly your cancer predated your diet for a long time.

  • vettegirl
    vettegirl Member Posts: 235
    edited July 2014

    I did the HCG drops for two years intermittenly-more on them than off them.  Loved them.  Lost 64 pounds.  It was also the only thing that helped my lymphadema-drew all the fluid out of my leg.  I too am wondering if it somehow contributed to my breast cancer.  hope not-cause I love the stuff and would like to go back on it after treatment, but a little worried now.  Asked my BS and she said she would have to research it.  I have a hard time with weight loss-this stuff really helped me with inches as well.

  • Gatomal
    Gatomal Member Posts: 483
    edited July 2014

    I had great success with this diet too. Weight dropped off, lost about 30 pounds. It was wonderful. My guess is this: People who do really well on this diet may be extra sensitive to carbs, and their insulin response  to carbs makes them super-efficient fat storers. This is great from an evolutionary perspective, when food was hard to come by, but it is really unhelpful when food is abundant.  Being overweight increases estrogen in the body. The tendency to be overweight, and therefore have more estrogen floating around, speeds up tumor growth especially with ER+ tumors. This is just my thoughts trying to piece this diagnosis together, you know the "what did I do to cause this?"

    I've just been thinking about body weight, cancer, and am in the "blaming myself" stage for not being thinner most of my life, for not getting this checked out sooner, before it progressed to IDC and /or stage 2. It just four days into my diagnosis, and I guess it's natural to go through all these emotions and thoughts. I'm feeling a bit down today after meeting with the MO, discouraging words from him Re: use of the cold caps with the ACT regimen, which I am going to do anyway, and worrying about my twin pregnancy. 

  • owlchick
    owlchick Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2014

    i did the hcg diet (4 rounds) 2 years prior to being diagnosed.  lost 80 pounds and have kept it off..of course the first question i asked my oncologist was ... did it cause it??  answer was no.. it was the 20+ years of birth control pills that caused my bc (no family history).  kept all my weight off during treatment and the first year after.. now the past year the weight has been creeping on ... very frustrated, and i am not allowed by my oncologist to do the hog diet anymore.. it is the only one that has ever worked for me.. and i have tracked calorie, i work out 5 days a week, i run, i have gone without sweets at all... and nothing.  weight just keeps going up... i am 48 and very frustrated... but i know that the hcg did not cause by cancer...

  • vettegirl
    vettegirl Member Posts: 235
    edited August 2014

    Owlchick-

    Did your onc say why you cannot do the hcg diet anymore?  I feel like you do-it is the only diet that has ever worked for me.  I really want to go back on it but am afraid....dont want this cancer back either.

  • dragonh2o
    dragonh2o Member Posts: 1
    edited September 2014

    I did the HCG diet 1 1/2 years before my diagnosis.  Lost 35 pounds---like everyone else,  it was the only diet that ever worked for me.  I felt wonderful!  Then got the BC diagnosis Jan. 2012,  Stage 2.5, Lymph nodes removed,  ER+, double mastectomy,  6 months chemo, (respectfully declined chest wall radiation).  Then breast reconstruction.  But--these past 6 months,  I've been gaining lots of weight---stimulated by the estrogen blocker,  I fear.   I so want to do another round of HCG and get this weight off!!!  but like the rest of you,  I'm afraid it might exacerbate any leftover cancer cells still floating around.  But it sounds like the BC existed before the diet (after reading this blog).  Any scientific studies about whether HCG (homeopathic) stimulates ER+  BC??

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited September 2014

    Dear dragionh2o, we're glad you found BCO but sorry you needed to.

    We have no studies or articles on HGC on our main site but we did find one Article "The HCG Diet: Fact vs. Fiction" which contains the statement: 

    "Update: The FDA is warning consumers that over-the-counter HCG products marketed as "weight-loss aids" are unproven and illegal. Harmful effects from these products should be reported to your health-care professional and to the FDA at:http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/default.htm."

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  • bevin
    bevin Member Posts: 1,902
    edited September 2014

    The hcg used and prescribed for injection by weight loss medical doctors is the same as that found in pregnancy. The amount prescribed is generally 350 to 500 iu. And this amount is extremely minimal as compared to what is produced by your body when pregnant. There is an interesting segment I saw on tv where a well known cardiologist stated the risk was very low especially as compared to obesity and its cascading side effects.  It was very interesting and if I can find it I will post. There are many weight loss medical doctors now and perhaps it would be good to schedule an appointment with one to discuss your options?

  • vettegirl
    vettegirl Member Posts: 235
    edited September 2014

    I just found out they now have a Hormone Free version of hcg......some are saying that it really works.  Anyone try the hormone free version? 

  • funnthesun68
    funnthesun68 Member Posts: 41
    edited September 2014

    I started the hormone free hcg in april 2014.   This is now September and I am 45 yrs old and diagnosed with breast cancer.   If I would of been smart and read all the comments about HCG and this diet I would never of done the drops.  I am now faced with a stage 2 invasive lobular carcenoma.   I am unsure of what lies ahead, but really do some research on this diet before you start it.   I am sick to my stomach reading everything out there where people have started that diet and now have breast cancer.   I understand we already had it in our bodies but this only brings it out sooner (my opinion).   I am scared becauase my childrens father died 10 yrs ago to cancer and now their mother has cancer.  Just please be cautious, when something sounds too good to be true it usually is!

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited September 2014

    If you were using over the counter hcg diet it was hormone free anyway. Homeopathics contain no detectable levels...

  • vettegirl
    vettegirl Member Posts: 235
    edited September 2014

    Melissa-I have heard that before also.  Also have heard that in homeopathic-it is so diluted that there is hardly any trace of hcg in it.  Funny how great it worked though-wonder what was in it that worked so well.  It literally sculpted my body...my arms, my legs, my belly and butt.  Takes fat off in all the right places.  I probably did maybe three rounds of shots over a 3 year period so did get the full strength in my body too.  Wish I could be sure homeopathic is safe-I so could use the help right now.  My BS said she did not feel that hcg caused my her2 positive cancer in my left boob...but she could not be sure of the other breast with the hormone positve, her2 negative...said she would have to research.  It was definitely not the 500 calorie diet that made me lose weight as I did not do that diet.  I mostly went no carb....fruit for breakfast, salad for lunch, protein and veggie for dinner.  I also drank quite a bit of beer and wine and still lost.  Was some amazing stuff....

  • funnthesun68
    funnthesun68 Member Posts: 41
    edited October 2014

    I did the HCG diet through a chiropractor in the town I live in.   Started in april 28th 2014 and this september found a lump in my left breast.   I was recently diagnosed with Invasive Lobular carcenoma.   I also have an area that is precancerous also.   I have had every test from genetic testing to mammograms, ultra sounds, ultra sound guided biopsy, steriotactic biopsy to know I wait to have surgery this coming monday.  Is this all related to the HCG drops and a cream that I used?   I don't know.   I know a year ago I had no issues in my breast to know having a double masectomy.   I'd like to think that diet started this, but no physical proof.  I just know if you are taking these drops STOP!  I showed my doctor what I was taking and was told to immediately stop these.   The bottle on the from said hormone free but the back says 250 mg of HCG complex.....false advertisement on his part......I just know I have a long road to recover.....

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