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dmlenn1
dmlenn1 Member Posts: 47

Hi there!  Well... I wish we were not meeting this way, but there you have it. In September 2011, I was taking a shower after unloading a truck at work when I noticed a lump under my arm, and one in my right breast. Being large chested, I often had fibroids come and go when it was that time of the month, and since I manage a pharmacy, my lymph nodes often swell as I fight off the infections I am exposed to every day, but never both at once. I called the dr and they got me in the next friday. Antibiotics, it might be MRSA, but that rash, is that normal for you? Mammogram, Ultrasound, biopsy... You have IDC and possibly Inflammatory BC. By Oct 6, two weeks from me finding a lump, I had the port installed, a skin biopsy and the great news that I had Inflammatory breast cancer. The PET scan found no trace of cancer anywhere else.

I am not a person who likes to dwell on the negative. I am, and continue to be, the person who falls off the horse and says "hey Lets try that again... without the fall" even when I have fallen 3 or 4 times. So... this particular diagnosis is actually harder on my partner of 20 years than it is on me. After 16 weeks of Chemo, the lump and the swollen lymph node are no longer visible on the ultrasound. The redness in the breast is going away, and I continue to hope.

I know in my heart that this may never go away... that I may be in treatment for years, or that it may sneak up and bite me in the butt tomorrow, but I flat out refuse to do all those things the cancer help books seem to expect me to do. I am not blaming myself... I never have. I don't wish this on someone else. I don't scream why me. I don't really complain. I do what my dr tells me to do (except quit smoking... my thought is... its terminal right? So what difference does it make, honestly) and everything seems to be going very well. Every once in a while it hits me that I may not be here next year (But then again... I might). I have purposely not been researching because the last thing I wanted was to freak myself out. But lately, I have been reading more, looking at more, and now I am here...and I am still hoping. I tell myself that hey.. there IS a survival rate... a low one... but there is one and that's got to mean something.

Sorry I am so chatty... thats just me.

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  • Racy
    Racy Member Posts: 2,651
    edited January 2012

    Hi dmlennon1, and welcome to a great site.  This is the place to come to for information, advice, support and friendship with other BC patients.

    You say a PET scan found no cancer anywhere outside the breast area. Did it show cancer in lymph nodes?

    If there is no evidence of cancer outside breast and axillary lymph nodes, you would not be stage 4 and it is not certain that your cancer is terminal.

    Let me know if I have misunderstood but that's how I read your situation.

    Good luck to you with your treatment plan.

  • dmlenn1
    dmlenn1 Member Posts: 47
    edited January 2012

    Sorry I wasn't clear... It is in my skin... thus the Inflammatory cancer, as well as the lymph node under my arm and one in the middle of my chest. That moved me into stage IV. BUT... No other organ involvement... but since the skin is your largest organ, I guess that is bad enough. Today's visit with the doctor we talked about the how likely I am to have recurrance in the chest wall. Apparently I am going to have to suspect every rash I get from now on, and since I am allergic to everything, I forsee a future of frantic dr visits over poison ivy.

  • ibcmets
    ibcmets Member Posts: 4,286
    edited January 2012

    Hi dmlennon1,

    I have ibc with bone mets since diagnosis in 6/09.  I'm doing very well.  ibc is always at least stage III and survival has increased I believe to 40% from 25% for 5 years.  As medical technology improves, survival improves.  Standard treatment is chemo first, surgery & radiation.  I was not required to do the radiation.

    I hope your treatment goes well and you can google ibc and find a few more sites dedicated to ibc patients.  I hear about 4-5% of all bc patients get ibc.  We still have a long way to go even on awareness of this particular bc.

    Best Wishes on your treatment. 

    Terri

  • dmlenn1
    dmlenn1 Member Posts: 47
    edited January 2012

    That is so good to hear that you are doing well. Gives me hope!  I had never even HEARD of IBC until my Dr dropped that bomb on me, and I did regular self exams about every two weeks. Now, evrytime someone asks me about what is going on, I spread the word about this type of BC. I actually have gotten about ten of my customers who never had exams to go get their mammograms. If nothing else, managing a pharmacy while undergoing treatment gives me a good platform to spread the word.

  • Faith316
    Faith316 Member Posts: 2,431
    edited January 2012

    I was originally dx with IDC and DCIS.  While still in the middle of treatment (still on Herceptin and in the midst of my 30 rads treatments), I was dx with IBC.  They changed me to new chemo and I am now NED and have been NED for 2-1/2 years.   I just got back from my checkup at MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston and my PET/CT still shows NED.

    IBC does not mean an automatic death sentence.  There is always hope and there are lots of women who have great response to treatment!

  • mrsnjband
    mrsnjband Member Posts: 1,409
    edited January 2012

    I was diagnosed in 2008 in 2 months from the day the rash appeared.  At the time it seemed like forever but now I realized how quickly it was diagnosed.  I knew what I had from the moment it appeared thus I sought out treatment as quickly as possible. I thank God for my amazing breast specialist.  

    It's hard to believe that it has been 4 years.  I had my fair share of problems because of treatment but none from cancer.  Just one for year until the magic window of 5, but I try to enjoy life as much as I am able.  I think survival rates are higher now because they catch it sooner.

    IBC, 5 positive nodes.  4dd A/C, 8 taxol, 3.5 taxotere, 25 rads, 5 boots. I have neuropathy in hands & feet.  Rads damage scar line thus many infections.  Finally decided to do reconstuction.  Starting to feel more like my old self.  NJ 

  • dmlenn1
    dmlenn1 Member Posts: 47
    edited January 2012

    I have that neuropathy thing too. Neurontin is helping that. Today was my very last Taxol treatment. I am very excited.

  • SeanE
    SeanE Member Posts: 107
    edited February 2012

    Also keep in mind that all the stats out there for IBC are at least 5 years, and more likely 10 years or more, out of date.  Great strides have been made since, and those improvements are not yet reflected in survival statistics.  There are now 2 centers in the country SPECIFICALLY dedicated to IBC - Fox Chase in Philly and Morgan Welch at MD Anderson in Houston.

  • Claudia413
    Claudia413 Member Posts: 114
    edited February 2012

    More good news for us IBCers. There are more IBC Centers opening all the time. Duke now has one; so does Univ of Tennessee; Univ of Arizona, Dana Farber (Boston) and more will be opening in the future. 

    Also in the good news column is the fact that one of my IBC sisters in another online group just celebrated her 20th cancerversary this weekend. There's more hope for all of us. 

  • crupnorth
    crupnorth Member Posts: 1
    edited February 2012

    Hello DMlennon1,

    I came across your post when reading something else on line.  I signed up to this board because I wanted to tell you that based on what you said I believe you are stage 3.  I was diagnosed 10.22.10 with bc that was later determined to be IBC.  I finished my chemo, surgery and twice daily radiation.  My last rad was 6/17/11.  I am TN.

    I had cancer in my axillary, supraclavicular and the lymph nodes under my sternum and was staged a 3.  It really scared me to know the lymph nodes under my sternum and around my collar bone were cancerous but it all went away with chemo.  Currently and hopefully forever I will be NED!

    There is HOPE.

  • anonymice
    anonymice Member Posts: 532
    edited March 2012

    Best of luck, DM.  I also had early response to chemo, a good prognostic indicator, which led to an NED at bmx.  Same receptor status as you.

    I have my down moments but in general my attitude has been pretty relaxed - even when I was pretty sure I'd be dead quite soon, as the literature would have you to believe.  Just a determination to enjoy life whatever it brings.  With we IBCers, stats mean little.  We have come to the attention of the medical community and they know things now that they did not know 10 yrs ago, that make a serious difference in our quality and length of life - so there are no valid longitudinal studies.

    But!  I totally get the whole "rash fear" thing.  I'm one of those folks that gets red flushed on my chest allll the time, PLUS now my right (IBC) side is perpetually pink or brown from rads.  I have had my heart skip quite a few beats over my reflection since I was diagnosed!  I imagine it will fade in time.

  • She_Is_Virgo
    She_Is_Virgo Member Posts: 28
    edited March 2012

    In June of 2010 at the age of 57,  I started experiencing strange things in my right arm.  After visiting with my doctor that June, he confirmed my suspicion that I had a spider bite.  I was put on a regiment of antibiotics, sent home and told to come back to the doctor in 10 days. The 10 days came and went, the swelling did not go down, I was then sent for tests for Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Rheumatoid Arthritis. All of these tests came back negative.   These tests took from June through September, 2010.   Over the next few weeks my breast started to grow in size, it became black and blue, the pain was now excruciating. I started my research on the Internet and found the Inflammatory Breast Cancer link on the National Institute of Cancer site. As I scrolled through I found a picture of "Peau L'Orange".  I yelled for my husband to come and see this page, and I said, very sadly:  "this is what I have". I was devastated!  The very next day I called my doctor who asked me to come in and I showed him the printout and said this is what I have.   He immediately told me not to jump to any conclusions.  There are very many infections that mimic these effects. He had me walk over to a surgeon who did a biopsy of my lymph nodes and my breast.  It was Monday. All week we waited for the results to come back. Friday, September 17, 2010 @ 4:45pm the call came through.   The lymph node biopsy was positive for cancer.  It was my husband's 41st birthday.  The next day was our anniversary.  I spent the day doing as much research as I could on IBC. There wasn't much. Data indicated that 2-3% of all breast cancer is inflammatory.  I came upon the site for Cancer Treatment Centers of America.  Further research indicated that IBC is typically diagnosed at Stage III until all scans are done.  CTCA had a person online ready to chat with me. I explained what was happening, she called me and we spoke on the phone. She said she could  arrange for me to have a tour of the facility the very next day which was Sunday. I agreed and went and toured the facility. It is impressive. You have your entire team in one location. Your results take minutes for lab work or a few hours for the kore comprehensive tests, I.e. pet Scans; and you have all of the necessary services in what looks like a hotel rather than a hospital. 



    Monday the call comes in that my breast biopsy has come back positive for IBC. I go back to my doctor's office and ask for next steps. The surgeon said they would refer me to an Oncologist. I stopped, thought about my weekend, thanked him and told him that I would take charge of my healthcare from this point forward.  We got in the car and I called CTCA and set up my first appointment. They had me come in immediately. 



    I had scans, MRI, lab work. It was like a whirlwind of activity that week. I got my first cycle of chemotherapy the following Wednesday. The treatment plan was aggressive chemo, I was Stage IV and no surgery in the immediate future was being recommended. My tumor markers began at 643. Within 6 months the markers were 114. I was excited, the chemo was working. There was a caveat. Under FDA regulations, there are certain chemos which you can only have a couple of times because of the side effects which would kill you. That sounds funny I know  The chemo I was on causes congestive heart failure. I had my 2 doses of that and while effective, we had to move on to other chemos. 



    Today, my tumor markers are at 925.  It's been 18 months of intensive chemo, plus I've had spreading to my brain, right hip, kidney, liver, tailbone, lymph nodes between the lungs and my left eye. I'm still fighting the fight. I start a new cycle of radiation and chemo tomorrow, in the hopes of reducing these tumors.  My lymph nodes are so painful in my right arm that I am also starting Cold Laser treatments to my right arm in the hopes of regaining its use. 



    Nice to meet you all.



    God bless.

  • anonymice
    anonymice Member Posts: 532
    edited July 2012

    Hi She,

    I'm so very sorry you've had such a hard time of it.  I think you should request a consultation with Dr. Massimo Cristofanilli at Fox-Chase.  He will consult with your oncologists if you're unable to travel.  He is the leading expert on IBC.  It is important to have the absolute best with our diagnosis, most particularly if you aren't doing well.  IBC is different, and is treated differently.  

    I hope your new treatment plan gets everything under control.

    Hugs 

  • She_Is_Virgo
    She_Is_Virgo Member Posts: 28
    edited March 2012

    It's actually Her negative. That was a typo in iPad. Sorry

  • She_Is_Virgo
    She_Is_Virgo Member Posts: 28
    edited March 2012

    Hi Bonnie.



    Thanks for reply. I'm in Tulsa, Ok and CTCA happens to have one of it's four facilitates here. I like the fact that I can get my treatment in one location. I don't live by TM numbers anymore anymore, I understand that we have to look at the entire picture.



    I have followed with Dr. Cristofanni on numerous studies and presentation i will follow up and let you guys know



    Thanks and have a great day!!!

  • She_Is_Virgo
    She_Is_Virgo Member Posts: 28
    edited March 2012

    Thanks Mice!! I like that name lol.



    I didn't want to give the wrong impression. While I've had spreading, the only active at this time is my lymph nodes. I know that's the spreading factor, but I'm actually doing really good. I'm enjoying every day. I wanted to give a synopsis of my case for the purposes of introducing myself. It's not all doom and gloom, so put that smile back on your face.





    I'll follow up on this.



    Hugs.

  • She_Is_Virgo
    She_Is_Virgo Member Posts: 28
    edited March 2012

    Hi NJ



    I'm also in Tulsa, OK. Maybe we can chat, or even meet. Or maybe we already know each other!!!



    I'm being treated at CTCA. Lunch one weekday? Preferably not on Wednesday. That's both my rad and chemo day. I'll buy.



    Let me know.

  • anonymice
    anonymice Member Posts: 532
    edited July 2012

    So glad to hear you're enjoying life, She!  I felt and feel the same way - to me, there is a world of benefit in being easily amused.  :)

    By the way, I wasn't recommending Dr. C as a 'desperate' measure or anything of the sort...I really think (know) that anyone with IBC that is either recurring or not getting optimal results with treatment should confer with Dr. Cristofanelli or at least one of the 4 (?) IBC clinics that exist now.  I know several folks on the IBC group I belong to whose treatment plans were not doing as much as needed, and those plans have been reviewed and modified by Dr. C with success.  The important thing is that your doc will network freely and have no ego about decisions past or present.  

    I do have the chemo brain still goin' on a bit....if I didn't mention it before, if you're on Facebook let me know and I'll send you an invitation to a great group.  I find them comforting because we don't get all the panicky "omg do I have IBC" posts that usually dominate this forum, and all the top news in the IBC world is right there.  And, it's not anonymous (but is a closed, private group) therefore folks are not so spiky and easily offended.  Plus it's kinda amazing to be in a place with more than 100 folks with IBC...NOT an easy thing to find!  :)

  • dmlenn1
    dmlenn1 Member Posts: 47
    edited March 2012

    Sorry I have been gone so Long... I had surgery to remove both breasts. I will be starting Radiation in a week or so. I met with one of the doctors at the radiation center and I have to say... he kinda scared me. I mean... I know the cancer is in my lymph nodes, but the way he was asking me questions about doing radiation made me really wonder... is he trying to get me to say no?

  • dmlenn1
    dmlenn1 Member Posts: 47
    edited March 2012

    It will depend. The doctor I spoke with is not actually my DR. He is another doctor at the clinic. My dr had an emergency happen with a patient, so this other dr came to talk to me. If, during my planning meeting, I still feel uncomfortable, I will look elsewhere.

  • anonymice
    anonymice Member Posts: 532
    edited July 2012

    Such a very negative and unkind interpretation of my post, Bon.  And, it must be said, ironic.

    I do not normally respond to attacks, but I do want to make myself clear for the benefit of anyone else reading this - this forum primarily serves as a "Do I have IBC?" forum, and it is excellent for that purpose and should be used as a source of information and comfort.  All are welcome and wanted.

    However for some of us, we may go through periods where these posts are painful to read - it reminds us of our own fight for diagnosis which, depending on your own circumstances and the length of time that has passed, may be more or less painful.  There are other groups that consist of people that have been diagnosed with IBC or have a loved one with IBC.  I do not believe there is a human being in the world who would not be over the moon to NOT qualify for that group.  I am most amazed by the respect and kindness with which others are treated.  On the FB group to which I was referring, I have never seen anyone be attacked for any reason - of course there are situations where you agree to disagree - respectfully and with kindness.

    Here....well, case in point, yes?  

  • CuterWCurves
    CuterWCurves Member Posts: 317
    edited April 2012

    I read this forum, and check new posts as they pop up. I don't reply to every one of the new threads, or bumped up threads...

    Women like Bonnie are amazing. They support women wondering about it all, they answer questions as best they can. They do their best to reassure people coming here. Newbies, or those who are not so new to this.

    When I read your post... I will admit I actually first went... WTF! I will admit I took it the same way... And then I read Bonnie's reply and thought. EXACTLY!

    With that said I will agree that occasionally there is a bit of prickly nature that comes out in some posts as well.

    I think both posts were taken in that way... And it took me a bit to not take yours the way it came across at first anonymice. To be honest this post pulled the edge off the first and explained it better.

    I think at the end of the day both of you are bang on in your own way. 

    Personally I refrain from posting about what is going on in my body outside of my thread in the Lymphedema section of all places because at the end of the day I don't want someone coming along 6 months later, or 3 years later... and reading what I am going through and either panicing or worse... Blowing off something important if I turn out to be one of the lucky ones.

    Goodness knows I have read more then half of all the threads in this section now *blush* (and the ILC section) and the number of times I wished for follow up. I would even check the posters posting history to see if they ever came back. The hardest part is not to see how many ask questions or are worried. The hardest part for someone like me who is struggling to figure it all out... Is when I find out that someone didn't get answers soon enough, and progressed too far, and just isn't ever going to be able to post again.

    With that said I am very glad this section is welcoming to those not sure of what is going on because one of the women I am most fond of and whom I will have a lasting friendship and relationship with posted, and her post got me registering. Mainly because her thoughts, feelings and concerns were echoed in my head and heart.

    I am glad there are more and more resources on IBC but I will say that a private group may keep things from being over whelmed yet... At the end of the day if it is private there is no way to know it exists so I am glad this forum is as open as it is.

    I hope this rambling post makes sense.

    Shell

  • Faith316
    Faith316 Member Posts: 2,431
    edited April 2012

    .....you is good ...... you is kind ...... you is important ....

     Just like in the movie "The Help" if everyone would tell every child in their life those words every day, this world would fill up with people who felt good about themselves and it would probably change the world!

  • CuterWCurves
    CuterWCurves Member Posts: 317
    edited April 2012

    Bonnie as long as I am not the only one giggling it is all good hun... That said I read a lot but only stick to a few threads for posting so I get it. Wink

    (((Big, gentle hugs for Bonnie)))

    P.S. I love that movie. I had tears in my eyes when she said that to the little girl.

  • dmlenn1
    dmlenn1 Member Posts: 47
    edited April 2012

    Hello again!  Current update... had a new PET scan and this time MY radiologist looked at it. I am now 12 sessions in on radiology. No... I won't ever be "cancer-free" but at least my radiologist said I don't look like I am dying anytime soon... at least not from the big C. He apologized that the on call doctor scared me so bad. I haven't seen that doctor since then. or I might have been tempted to smack him for scaring me so much. So... I am back on track for being as positive as I can. Now I am just dealing with family issues. I am going to read through some of the other boards some more to see if anyone else has had a similar problem before I start a new thread, but if I can't find one, I will have a topic I really could use some help with. Thanks to you all for being an inspiration!

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