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  • MiniMacsMom
    MiniMacsMom Member Posts: 595
    edited January 2012

    Gator:  I would plan on being there but plan on taking it easy.  I think the biggest SE I have heard of from the DD taxol is intense muscle pain and neuropathy.  The LGlut.  Should help with the neuropathy.  Are you getting neulastin (Sp) shots?  Read back through the thread a lot of ppl recommend taking claritin to help with that pain, I haven't used it but someone did give instructions earlier I think.  Ugh chemo brain :)  Anyway.  I am hoping you will be nausea and pain free, but regardless try to take it easy and get lots of fluids!   Big Hugs!

  • FLislander
    FLislander Member Posts: 243
    edited January 2012

    Gator

    I went to kids soccer games sat after taxol, I was a bit sore, still taking nuelasta, but felt ok. No nausea

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2012

    Quaatsi, congratulations! I can't even imagine how that feels! I hope you have a celebratory ride today.



    Claire, you give me great hope managing to hike after tx.



    Starting next Thursday, still a bit floored from the last AC, so I am so encouraged by your experiences.



    In NJ so not the best weather for hiking but maybe a shotprt walk!



    Good day to all, big hugs, Laura



  • FLislander
    FLislander Member Posts: 243
    edited January 2012

    Congrats Q

    Don't even think about leaving us here, we don't mind hearing about the next step ?navy bean?;) navelbine dont know how to spell it...look forward to your posts

    Cindy

  • shore1
    shore1 Member Posts: 739
    edited January 2012

    Congratulations Q. Seacretgardn, im in Jersey too, with this dreary weather, but since recovering from AC in november, I have been taking long walks almost everythe day & feel a lot better. I want to work in some strength training, but am so sore from tissue expanders I'll probably stick with just walking until after exchange.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2012

    Dear hermanas-

    Q--we'll hang out online regardless....be sure to continue to post on the Nov. thread.  Let's see--we went out Dry Creek road, then turned right at the Y intersection past the creek, then hiked up into the red buttes....north of Bear Mt.  Now you have a picture!

    To all--I have to force myself to get out there but I seem to be so hypersensitive to steroids (I'm sensistive to most meds anyway---usually take half of what the rx calls for) that when I leave chemo tx I'm so jacked up from the steroids that I have to MOVE...wish I could eliminate the steroid infusion completely tho; I can't sleep the night of `chemo even with a xanax, advil PM, and a 50 mg. trazodone.  Four hours sleep last night then teach in the morning at 8 a.m. is a feat nothing short of miraculous. Can't wait till I am done with Taxol.

    Love to you all

    C

  • bethu77
    bethu77 Member Posts: 320
    edited January 2012

    Q--Congrats on finishing Taxol. I have 2 treatments to go before I finish. You have been an encouragement to me!

  • dechi
    dechi Member Posts: 173
    edited January 2012

    Had my first Taxol/Herceptin today!  It went pretty good.  I'm feeling fine right now and went back to work.  We'll see what the next few days bring!!

  • Quaatsi
    Quaatsi Member Posts: 385
    edited January 2012

    thanks to all for the  well wishes.  I am not going to look back at this chemo but I wish that all of you have mild SEs!

    Claire-- I know the Dry Creek area very well, long before all the consturction in that area-- I hiked up there many times. Well, if we go through chemo the same day, we hike together-- virtually.  And you can join me on my horse and ride into the mountains and desert.  

    Dechi-- welcome and good luck! 

  • dmlenn1
    dmlenn1 Member Posts: 47
    edited January 2012

    I am having my last Taxol/Herceptin combo on Tuesday. Geez Louise! I thought the vomiting my toenails up from the first round of chemo was awful... and then I had the Taxol. I had every weird SE listed. The pain made me cry for two days after the first dose. Dr gave me two different steroids to take, plus hydrocodone and xanax... now I just take the pain days off of work, drug myself senseless and remind myself that the 3.8 lump and the enlarged lymphnodes are both no longer visible on the Ultrasound. Surgery soon... or as soon as my counts go back up. Hang in there... it works... or at least it did for me.

  • Bonseye
    Bonseye Member Posts: 193
    edited January 2012

    I was wondering if anyone had this side effect.....



    I had my first Taxol last Friday. I did well until I got home. I started with a horrible pain in my back/shoulder blades like I ate something and it got stuck going down. The pain had me twisting and turning....took a Vicodin and it did absolutely nothing. I called the doctor and the doctor on call recommended steroids but later my doctor said I didn't have a reaction...it was a side effect. I do have Rheumatoid Arthritis which has all bets off with everything so far for me. I have had stabbing pains in my groin, legs, knees, one hand....all week! It all comes and goes but now 6 days later I have the horrible back pain back. I have been beside myself...despite 4 mg of Dilaudid I am miserable. He said I could take two pills so i now have 8 mg of of Dilaudid in me, staggered in time and am bearly comfortable. This back pain between my shoulder blades is horrible! I did find a massage heated pillow that seems to be helping me too....is all this normal?

  • Gator65
    Gator65 Member Posts: 72
    edited January 2012

    Had the first Taxol today and I feel pretty good! I am so jacked up on steroids, it is crazy!! Go back for Nuelasta tomorrow.

  • Kim137
    Kim137 Member Posts: 183
    edited January 2012

    Had my second taxol today. It's 1:30 a.m & I'm wide awake!! Darn steroids! I'm anxious to see If I experience the horrible bone pain I did after my first dose. I swear I'm getting sore already, but then I tell myself it's all in my head. Last time it was day 3 when the pain began. Going for Neulasta tomorrow & will try claritan this time......hell, I'll try anything! Lol. Even though I know I only have 2 treatments left now,and I should be grateful, I'm mentally drained. Very emotional, which is not like me at all. I sympathize with each of you that are going thru the same issues. It comforts me to know I'm not alone. I hope each of you finds comfort in our new found friendships and sisterhood as well.



    *World wide web hugs* ;)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2012

    Hate those steroids. Can't sleep yet feel exhausted--short tempered, emotional. They are just terrible for me. My onc. won't back me off of them, either, even though I've asked more than once.  

     Kim, the claritin protected me from any SE from Neulasta when I got my AC txs but Taxol itself caused tremendous back pain 2 days after treatment #2.  I'm not getting Neulasta with Taxol now, however.  Here's hoping the claritin works as well for you as it did for me.

    For me--7 more Taxols to go: 7 more weeks. 

  • shore1
    shore1 Member Posts: 739
    edited January 2012

    Kim137, I have taxol/herceptin weekly x 12 and don't get neulasta with taxol, but I wanted to let you know that when I had the neulasta shots with AC, I found that taking Claritan the day before, day of, and day after the shot helped me much more than just taking it the day of (which I did for the first two neulasta shots). My chemo nurse told me to try this on AC and neulasta shots 3 & 4 and really helped.

    Bonseye, I have last taxol next week and for the past 4 weeks or so have had horrible shoulder/back pain. I don't know if its the taxol, herceptin, if I pulled something, or if its the tissue expanders hurting my back. I have searched all over to see if shoulder blade pain is common from taxol and only find that it is related to liver and gallstone problems. Seems common taxol SE are more related to joint aches. My onc is not too concerned and thinks my back pain is releated to expansions. Have you asked your onc if he/she knows if shoulder/back pain is a common taxol SE?  

    Gator, glad you feel good. Enjoy softball game! 

  • bethu77
    bethu77 Member Posts: 320
    edited January 2012

    My pains begin on Thursday and become more intense until Monday morning. I take a pain pill to sleep. Even blankets on my body hurt. Only 2 more to go for me...

  • kelleysgroi
    kelleysgroi Member Posts: 227
    edited January 2012

    I have treatment on Wed and the pain in my knees, ankles and elbows starts Friday night and lasts through the weekends.  The pain was a little worse after the 2nd treatment..next week in #3..cant wait to finish this crap. 

    Kim- good to see you..was worried after all the pain you had last time. I hope it is not as bad this time. I think something about Taxol affects us emotionally as Beth and I seem to be having the same emotional issues. Mentally I am beat up and just dont know how the days will ever end.

    Beth- hope you are having a better day.  You are not alone.

  • Kim137
    Kim137 Member Posts: 183
    edited January 2012

    The oncologist originally said I would not need Neulasta during Taxol, but my RBC continues to drop. If it gets much lower I'll need a transfusion. Because of this she decided it would be best to use Neulasta to keep my WBC count in normal range in case she needs to treat my RBC......if it's not one thing it's another, right?! She mentioned that there is an injection used for RBC , but that there have been studies that show it can cause in increase in tumkr growth!! Think ill pass on that! I never experienced bone pain while on AC and Neulasta. So I'm not sure if it's pain from Neulasta, Taxol or a combo of both. We'll see if this round goes better. Last time the pain set in Saturday, so I'm trying to enjoy my day today! Hope each of you ladies have a good weekend with minimal side effects.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited January 2012

    Kim137 - I am a blood banker, worked in transfusion services.  Try to raise your hemoglobin (the number they are actually looking at to determine whether or not you need a transfusion, not your RBC number) by eating as much red meat (steak, burgers) and leafy greens (spinach, romaine, etc.) between your tx.  During TCH I flirted with a transfusion from the 3rd tx on - found I could get my hemoglobin above 8.5 if I loaded up on the red meat/greens. I know it can be a challenge to eat these things while receiving tx but if it helps it is worth it.  You were smart to skip the epoetin (Procrit) - too much risk.  If you do need to have a transfusion don't hesitate to PM me for some info that is important to know beforehand. 

  • MiniMacsMom
    MiniMacsMom Member Posts: 595
    edited January 2012

    A multi vitamin with veggies and extra b vitamin a couple time a week raised my numbers back in the normal range when then started to drop at week 5. Google causes rbc and hemoglobin problems. They r related to iron and b vit a lot of times. I dont take extra. My mo warned against tooo many supplements.



    Otherwise my numbers after 8 taxol are the same as the first... other than week 5. Good luck.

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited January 2012

    Had my first Taxol yesterday. So far it's a breeze when compared to AC. No bone/joint pain at all, no nausea, no Nulasta shot. I hope it continues!

  • Quaatsi
    Quaatsi Member Posts: 385
    edited January 2012

    I will tell you I take astragalus as well as medicinal mushrooms and my blood counts are quite high.  And that, after 12 treatments.  If I feel a bit flu-like I know something is up so I take a formula called Yin Qiao and within hours I am better.  I dont take much in terms of vitamins as I try to get everything in food but I have just decided to take a multi mineral and another Bvit.  

  • Gator65
    Gator65 Member Posts: 72
    edited January 2012

    Still feeling good. The nuelasta shot sucked though. Burned like hell. Went to the movies with my girlfiends tonight and had a good time. Going to see the baby girl play ball tomorrow. So excited!!!

    Here is to a SE free weekend, ladies!! :) 

  • ccjj
    ccjj Member Posts: 128
    edited January 2012

    Today was my 12 of 12 weekly taxol treatment.  I am done!  Cant believe this day has arrived. 

    Wanted to share my experience with the steroids.  I did 10 of my TX with the steroids.  I took them 12 hours before and 6 hours before my treatment. They also gave me steroids via IV at the TX prior to the taxol.  I would be wired for two days and then crash for two. Was depressed, achy, and short with everyone.  No real pain.  My last two TX my MO agreed to skip the steroids at home and just do the IV. I have found each scenario has its benefits.  On the additional steroids I was wired and happy and really got a lot done, played with my kids a ton, etc for those 2 days.   Without, there is no crash, but I am pretty fatigued throughout, slightly depressed, achy and crabby. My husband wanted to go and celebrate tonight that I had finished. On the steroids I would have jumped at the chance. Without, I wanted to curl up at home on the couch.  Most of my achiness has been in my arms and legs.  They both feel heavy. My left arm in particular has more soreness. Makes me nervous because that was my cancer side but it comes and goes.  I am going to see what happens a few weeks out after the taxol. 

    Hair... after 12 weekly TX I have really good head coverage. Its not at all long, but my entire scalp is covered.  

    Good luck to all still in the process and those just starting. 

  • hotlyn
    hotlyn Member Posts: 22
    edited January 2012

    Hi to forestgirl46436,

    I too have FM, also OA, and RA , so getting DX with BC Nov 2011 has hit me pretty hard. SE from Chemo have been ongoing and hard to cope with day to day. I am in Australia and it is very hot here at present. Thank goodness we have aircon in our house, is pretty much a necessity here !!

    regards Lynne 

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited January 2012

    Lynne - Oops, just realised you are still doing the FEC too... just ignore this question....


    Lynne, did your doc here in Australia prescribe the same amount of steroids that the US women are getting? I know that for some things they prescribe differently here...



    I'm due to start Taxol x 12 after my FEC finishes in early March.



    Jenn

  • LouLou40
    LouLou40 Member Posts: 180
    edited January 2012

    I did 12 x weekly taxol in Aust, I only had IV methylpred 100mg as part of my pre med and had no problems with a reaction - no other steroid cover apart from that.

    I had AC first and only took oral Dex with my 1st infusion, it gave me blurred vision and then my Onc was away and his stand in didn't prescribe it and I felt so much better without the steroid cover, even my nausea was better, so I refused it after that and did just fine with the IV methylpred and no Dex .

    I found Taxol a breeze compared to AC, no nausea just a fatigue towards the end of the 12 weeks and my hair started growing back , by the time I finished I had an inch of thick fluff.
    I never need Neulasted with any of my chemo my bloods always bounced back well, had a bit of a low HB with taxol but not low enough for a transfusion.

    Lou

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited January 2012

    Thanks Lou!



    My onc only gave me the iv dex for my FEC too, and then Emend and Kytril. I get the feeling that here in Aus the docs don't like to overdo the steroids.



    I'm hoping it's the same for the Taxol because the side-effects ofvthe steroids worry me more than those for the Taxol.



    Jenn

  • Quaatsi
    Quaatsi Member Posts: 385
    edited January 2012
    congrats ccjj!
  • Quaatsi
    Quaatsi Member Posts: 385
    edited January 2012

    By the way,

    You have a right to REFUSE any drugs-- premeds too like the Steroid.  Likely what they do is keep a fast acting antihistimine/steroid alongside if you react. I am told by my doc that the steroid (which she did want me to have, like most docs do) is for reactions which ahppen in the first few minutes as well as fluid retention in extremities.  If those do not happen, and you dont like the effects of the steroid, why take them...my thoughts...  but know it is your right. Q 

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