January 2012 rads

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  • lifechanging2011
    lifechanging2011 Member Posts: 48
    edited January 2012

    Hi all,

    amf099..I start rads Thursday. I wanted to vomit before my first appointment with my RO. My reality is that I had a lumpectomy with a small tumor and clear nodes, but if the cancer returns I lose my boob. No other option.  I need to do as much as I can to prevent the cancer from returning.  I need to trust my doctors that they are making the best decisions for me.  Bottom line is that they see this on a regular basis. They know what it could become, so I will do what they tell me to do.

    I, too, feel times of depression and frustration.  I haven't started rads yet but I get these shooting pains through my boob. I emailed my surgeon and she said that was normal and they will get less and less.  No one tells you about the shooting pains that come without warning. I find myself holding or grabbing  my boob throughout the day because it aches. That is frustrating to me. This Friday is a month since surgery. I don't want to feel achey or pain anymore and now I have to deal with the radiation SE.  I see the nurse before my first treatment to find out how to treat myself through rads. I'm grateful for everyone hear because reading thru these posts helps me to figure out the questions to ask. Thanks.

  • lifechanging2011
    lifechanging2011 Member Posts: 48
    edited January 2012

    Oh yeah...I forgot to mention that I have to have a D&C over spring break.  They found a polyp in my uterus. Isn't that great. I'm weary. My life sucks right now.

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited January 2012

    had my mapping done today and got my tatoos.  only 2 hurt the others fall where the bmx scar was and surrounding aree that I still cannot feel.  Starting the real thing on Friday.  Could have started tomorrow but time was so early (7:45) and I have a 45 min drive there.  UGH.  7 weeks of this. Really getting worried about my  skin.

    Maggie

  • Kayce234
    Kayce234 Member Posts: 249
    edited January 2012

    Reading through all the post and boy to I understand - I went through a very difficult period of feeling "guilty" that my cancer wasn't "bad enough" because of what certain family members said.  It took me a long time to get past it and realzie - screw them, cancer is cancer no matter the stage, grade, size, etc.  The mental toll it takes on you is the same at stage 1 as I imagine it is at stage iv - you have the chance to survive any stage and you have the chance of dying in any stage.  We are allowed to feel the way we need to get through this - there are no rules or qualifications, you just have to have breast cancer.

     As far as the rads go - I'm on 5 of 35 and I'm starting to get pretty red, tender and sensitive. The pain I had after surgery is coming back also - I thik the rads is aggravating it all.

    Love and hugs to all 

  • lifechanging2011
    lifechanging2011 Member Posts: 48
    edited January 2012

    I agree. I remember when I got the phone call with my diagnosis.  It took me  a few minutes to realize that when the doctor said, "You have a small breast cancer..." She didn't mean that I had a "little" cancer like I'll have a "little"  piece of cake...She really meant that I had the biggie "breast cancer" that happens to be small in size. Breast cancer is breast cancer no matter how small.

  • newksmom100
    newksmom100 Member Posts: 55
    edited January 2012

    amf099 - It was explained to me that with lumpectomy only there is a 25-30% chance of recurrence and after rads the rate is reduced to 5-6%.  For me personally that makes rads worth it.  I want to give myself every chance to live and and to live a full life without recurrence.  The decision is yours of course, but I encourage you to ask lots of questions and carefully consider every option. 

    lifechanging2011 -I first saw the MO who said no chemo which I expected based on what my surgeon had told me.  When I went for my first appt with the RO, as soon as I saw the "Radiology" sign on the outside of the suite, the tears started flowing.  For me, that was the first sign of how real this is.  I'm now done with 4 treatments and I feel a little more tender (more inside than the skin) but that is about all so far.

    Maggie - It's going to be okay.  My RO asked me to use the lotion 3x/day (morning, following my 3:45 treatment and at bedtime).  So far, so good, all things considered.  Your posts have been a blessing to me.  Keep your chin up, we are all here for you and you can do ANYTHING!

    I had asked last week if anyone had an idea of costs...thanks to those who responded.  I looked online at my insurance company today and the billed rate for my treatments is $742.02/day.  That is about what I expected, but of course that is not exactly what insurance pays.  I am in San Antonio, so of course costs will vary depending on where you are.  Thought this might be helpful for those of you who are curious like I was.

    One question for everyone.  I am still having a little pain due to the seroma.  I'm 7 weeks post surgery.  Is anyone else having this problem and what are you doing for it?  I'm having a little trouble getting comfortable at night.  

    Thanks everyone, know that I am thinking good thoughts for all of you.   Julie

  • Ralsper
    Ralsper Member Posts: 352
    edited January 2012

    Kayce234... I totallly agree with you. 2 of 25.

  • tnhelen
    tnhelen Member Posts: 63
    edited January 2012

    I went through 20 today.  I put my lotion on immediately after rads and I am a little sore but nothing like it could be.  I was pink and sore when I started.  I was told that rads would bring my chance of recurrence down to about 5 percent and the MO said the tamoxifen that I will take after rads will mainly protect my other breast by about 50 percent.  She said since both breasts have been in the same places and I got cancer in one then I have the blueprint to get it in the other one and my odds are higher. 

    I'm a little worried about the tamoxifin and it completely cutting off estrogen.  What about hair thinning and growing a beard?  Come on...She said if the side effects got worse than the disease I could discontinue treatment since it was preventative. 

    I guess we will all move over into Feburary rads in a week or so.  Sometimes I do want to scream and get so tired of the daily grind.  Planning your entire life around rads but then I think I should be grateful we have the technology. I do get tired especially in the afternoon and have gotten inflamed lungs. Primary care doctor has me on antiobiotics and steroids. I should be feeling better soon. Nice talking to you gals.

  • lifechanging2011
    lifechanging2011 Member Posts: 48
    edited January 2012

    Hi all,

    I feel so sad about all this. I've been a trooper so far, but  I start rads tomorrow and I woke up crying this morning. I'm so stressed out. I know that this is to help so the cancer doesn't come back, but I'm feeling really blue about it. I don't think I've ever felt so powerless. :O(

     newksmom100: What is a seroma? How do you know you have it?

    tnhelen: I'm worried about the tamoxifen too. I see the MO on 2/14 so I'll have a better idea of the expectations, but I'm worried too.

     Thanks for sharing everyone.

  • newksmom100
    newksmom100 Member Posts: 55
    edited January 2012

    Lifechanging2011 (what an appropriate name) - a seroma is a pocket of fluid that builds up in the place were the tumor was (I did not have drains).  It feels hard like the tumor did, but is bigger.  For the most part it's not an issue, but is bothersome if someone hugs me too hard and when sleeping.  Surgery was on the left side with the tumor in the upper, outer quadrant (about 1:00).  In the beginning when I laid on the left side it was really painful, but is getting better as long as I "adjust".  When I lay on the right and my breast moves to the midline, there is a pulling where the seroma/tumor is and it can get a little uncomfortable.  Still trying to prop my breast on a pillow, which is not so easy as I am not big breasted.  Not a whole lot to prop.  :-)  They tell me my body will absorb the fluid eventually so I guess until then it's just a little discomfort.  In the scheme of things now, it could always be worse. 

    Please keep my boss in your prayers, she had a biopsy last week and gets results today.  Praying that it was benign and she will have to join our club. 

    Hugs to all, have a blessed day.

  • hawk
    hawk Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2012

    lifechanging2011- I cried for my entire first rad appt.  I couldn't stop. I am done with 7.  28 to go.  I have cried more this week than the entire first month.

    I'm scared about so much more like my heart and my lungs and theSE's.  Surgery seemed so easy compared to this.  

    newksmom100 - I have the same issues you do with the tumor almost at the exact location.  Mine was 2:00.  I still can not sleep on my left side though.  I am in a ton of pain from rads.  I was told I can take Motrin for is which helps.

    thelen - how did you know your lungs were inflamed?

    Soft Hugs to all

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited January 2012

    I got an interesting call from my RO today.  She was attempting to plan my rads therapy from the CT scan that was done on Monday.  It appears that she could not locat the tumor bed at all.  She said it was as though it had never existed it had healed so completely.  Only the scar remains as a reminder that surgery was done.  That was the good news.  The bad news is that now I am only eligible for WBR and not the partial that I was looking for.

    I still remember the prayer that my DS and DIL did for me, asking that God take the tumor away "as if it had never existed".  When I heard those words from my RO, it brought back that prayer immediately!  Is it possible that I have been healed and do not need rads at all...I know prayers work, but I've always prayed for others...never myself.  I have a lot of thinking to do over the weekend, before I have to begin treatments next Wednesday. 

  • Banba
    Banba Member Posts: 93
    edited January 2012

    Had my first radiation shot today(of 30).

    I think a lot about pros and cons of supplements. Any thoughts on this? Generally vit C, D, E and Selenium are out(because they are too effective and reduces the effect of radiation) but there is also opinions that it supports the system.

    Here in Sweden they prescribe a cream with cortisone and that is it. What kind of creams are you using and what is in in? Aloe is suppose to work ok I hear.

     Kaara! That is really hopeful news full of grace.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2012

    Banba, I am in Greece and also got a prescription steroid cream from my doctor. I asked today if aloe vera was OK, and they said to go ahead and that it can be helpful. I got a pure aloe vera gel and will try it today.

  • hawk
    hawk Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2012

    Kaara - God answers all prayers!  It may not be exactly the answer WE want but He answers.  Parying for you this weekend as you think.

    Banba - I was told to start supplements after RX was complete.  My cream from the doctor has Aloe in it. 

  • Ossa
    Ossa Member Posts: 919
    edited January 2012

    First treatment tomorrow.. I see a lot of ladies are upset about your radiation.. Me on the other hand is looking forward to getting started. Think the pros outweigh the cons... Want to take whatever they will "throw" at me so I know I have done all I can to get rid of this nastyness I did not want in the first place.. I want to do all I can so I will be around for my future grankids..

  • lifechanging2011
    lifechanging2011 Member Posts: 48
    edited January 2012

    newksmom100: Thank you for the clarification.  My surgery was a month ago and it still hurts to lay on that side.  My tumor was at 6:00 and the weight alone of my breast can irritate the area. I see an indent on my boob where the node was taken. I hope it goes away.

    hawk: When I first met with my RO and told him that I have rheumatoid arthritis which is an inflammatory disease, he said I would have radiation on my stomach so the radiation won't inflame my lungs or touch my ribs. When they talk about radiating your boob, you never think what it'll do to the rest of your organs; at least I didn't.If your lungs become inflammed you'd be prone to pneumonia.

    Kaara: when I was first diagnosed, I was told that my tumor was 6mm by multiple people.  My mother had all of her friends and her church praying for me.  After surgery, my surgeon was surprised to find that my tumor turned out to be 3mm.  To this day my mother believes that it was the prayers that shrunk the tumor.

    Wish me luck tomorrow. I see the nurse for 30 minutes and then I get my first zap. Thank you all for sharing your experience, strength, and hope.

  • Kayce234
    Kayce234 Member Posts: 249
    edited January 2012

    Ossa - I don't think people are upset about their radiation, I think it just wears on you and you need to vent.  I've only had 6 treatments so far and I'm already done with it - the every day thing is what really gets to you.  I think your attitude is great and to be honest I feel the same way - tell me what to do and I'll do it, just save my life - but doesn't mean we have to like it :(

    good luck and keep that positive attitude but feel free to come vent when/if it gets to you :) 

  • tnhelen
    tnhelen Member Posts: 63
    edited January 2012

    The doctor had an xray run on me because they thought it was pneumonia. She could tell there was inflammation by listening to them.  But that did not have anything to do with the radiation.  It's just that I got bronchitis or some other crappy virus.

    21 today.  Finally getting up there. 

    Helen

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited January 2012

    My treatments just seem to be moving along without much event. I am in week three and getting a good tan and redness going. I am continuing a lot of stretching that I learned in PT after my bmx recently so that radiation doesn't tighten it all back down again. I am fitting in walking in order to try to get my energy back up after chemo, bmx and rads. My focus is on creating health and functionality.

  • Ralsper
    Ralsper Member Posts: 352
    edited January 2012

    J-Bug - I am doing the same. I have kept streching (LE) and exercising, so I actually feel that my health is improving and I am not going back. 3 of 25 done.

  • rjbaby69
    rjbaby69 Member Posts: 349
    edited January 2012

    Hello ladies.  All is going well so far with me and my radiation.  Skin is holding up nicely....no peeling, burns or anything else.  I do have a little soreness and a full feeling but my RO and nurse tell me this is all normal.  Not using any creams or anything else.  Don't really have a need right now.  My breast is a little red but that is all.

    Findingsolace:  My nails are not black but you can definitely tell that I've had some sort of medical problem.  They are more of a tan/yellowish looking where they have pulled away from the beds.  I can't tell yet if I will loose any or not.  I'll just have to wait and see.  There are a couple of them that I'm worried about because the discoloration seems to be over more than half the nail.  Just don't know right now.  I'll keep you posted.  I hate the swelling for you.  It's pretty aggravating to me.  And I am a month from chemo and still have some swelling issues.  Hopefully they will resolve themselves soon.

    amfo99:  I, too, believe it's a personal choice.  But my choice was to do anything and everything I can to make sure I don't have to go through this again. So I agree with Ossa. I intend to do everything in my power to keep myself healthy. I feel that the effects of radiation are a small price to pay if it will zap whatever microscopic cells that may be left in my body. I do NOT want to do this again. But in the end, it is your decision and a very personal one.  We all want you to do what's best for you.

    HUGS!

  • Ossa
    Ossa Member Posts: 919
    edited January 2012

    Off to my first rad

  • bgirl
    bgirl Member Posts: 538
    edited January 2012

    Ossa, hope your first rad went well!

    #5 done today.  Bit achy, but so far not too bad.

    I agree, it is the every day thing.  Annoying for so many reasons.  Disruption to routine, I could have spent my parking fees on something nicer like new shoes, and the daily reminder that yes I have cancer.

    Putting on cream couple times a day as suggested.  Not steroid or anything - just water based, lanolin free, perfume free moisturizer as suggested. (using Glaxal Base because costco had huge tub cheap)  Told easier to prevent some SEs rather than treat after they occur.

    Told 25% chance of local recurrence if I didn't have rads.  Only 5-8% chance with rads after lumpectomy.  At my age risk of not doing was not okay.  Want the best chance I have of collecting a pension and I don't want to do this again any time soon.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited January 2012

    Hi Ladies, today is #16 out of 33.  My new RO agreed that 9 boosts was aggressive when I asked him why was I getting 9.  He said the other RO leaned that way, but that 5 boosts is more than adequate for my plan.  So, 28 reg and 5 boosts is the new plan for me.

    I have been way more wiped out during rads than chemo.  It's hard to stay in good spirits.  Skin is holding up, but I feel angry a lot.  I'm not used to just feeling angry without something specific bringing it on.  I know it's everything thrown together, but it stinks to wake up to a new day and feel mad about life.  I wish I could feel happy that I am alive as opposed to angry for what I have to go through.

  • Banba
    Banba Member Posts: 93
    edited January 2012

    Ossa - good luck! I had #2 today and my breast is already turning pink. Great. I will try a novel(or not so novel perhaps)appoach to skin managment by applying honey to it. I'll let you know how it went.

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited January 2012

    Rockym, Please don't beat yourself up about being angry.  Look at all you have been through in less than a year.  After surgery  and chemo, you are bound to feel ragged by the time you get to rads. Rads is no fun at all, but it does end eventually.

  • newksmom100
    newksmom100 Member Posts: 55
    edited January 2012

    Ossa:  I hope all went well for your today.  I remember on my first day I thought my heart would pound from my chest.  Yesterday (day 5) I could have fallen asleep.  I woke this morning very tired and it really has not gone away.  Feel like I could use a good, loooong nap.  Breast is getting a little pink and is also tender in the chest wall all around the perimeter of the breast.  SNB area is also tender, feels like I stretched too far.  Saw RO yesterday at treatment time and she says all is normal.  Will keep applying my lotion 3x/day and and hope for the best.  So looking forward to the weekend where I can forget cancer and just sleep.    Hugs to all, thinking of all of you and so glad I have you here to talk to. - Julie

  • Ralsper
    Ralsper Member Posts: 352
    edited January 2012

    Rockym - I am feeling the same. My DH is just amazing and Tamoxifen or not I would've had kick his sorry a... for less than half of the thing that I have said and done during my "healing journey" (more than a "hell journey' sometimes). At my clinic they define survivorship as "anyone who has been diagnosed with cancer from the time of diagnosis through the balance of his or her life"... Well, I am not sure how I feel about it. 4 of 25 done.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited January 2012
    Elizabeth1889, thanks.   I'm sure it's just as rough on everyone else too.  I'm so looking forward to February coming and going.  It's hard to be in good spirits when you know you are trucking to a doctor's office each day.  You're right... so many months of treatment and it gets tiring.  I can't wait until I can have a normal routine again.

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