ER+ ladies, what do you eat?
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The only thing my breast surgeon said about food was to avoid soy as the verdict is not out on it...I am now juicing every day to make sur eI get my kale, dandelion and spinach into me...I avoid grapefruit jiuce, flax and soy products. I am no longer eating red meat and won't have sugar in the house or I will eat it (I take zopliclone to slepe and apparently that is the sugar eating culprit at 2am). I have done my best to eliminate as much cheese as possible ( my comfort food) and gluten. I eat no white flour products. Not a pop drinker...have one cup of black coffee in am and then try to drink green tea and my 'green juice' whenever possible. I drink almond milk but I was drinking organic cows milk before that. trying to buy organic for the dirty dozen or wash them very carefull before eating them...
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oh yes,,and walnuts every day..but that is for cholesterol...both i guess
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Layla2525 – I eat lamb, too. I think sheeps and lambs live quite a natural life and eat grass, even if they are not raised organically, so maybe that is what's meant by clean?
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Thanks, dancetrancer -- I will definitely try that recipe!
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jwilco -- walnuts! That's brilliant. Will try that, too.
Mandalala, my ND recommended lamb to me, too. Just beginning to experiment with some recipes.
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Walnuts are a good idea for the hummus. We always have walnuts around, since we eat them with our breakfast.
We do eat lamb, and I like to have the butcher cut a leg into fairly thick slices and then I braise it with a bunch of veggies, like cabbage or fennel, kale would work too. It makes a nice one-pot meal.
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Great ideas for the alternative hummus recipes. Thanks! Always used to make my own, then got lazy and picked up the ready made ones since there are so many to choose from and it's a quick and a easy option for lunch at work. Will need to check out the white bean Trader's option when running short on time.
Today I'm having a mini cooking marathon in my toasty kitchen. While DH and adult sons brave the cold at the Pats game.....eating barbecued beef tips and sausage...Oy!...I'm making the two recipes below along with a chicken chili...should hold us through the week for dinners. I love to cook but often get home from work at 6PM or later so hate to start making a full dinner at that hour. Had some standard easy low calorie recipes that made life easy....but most involved soy and or sesame products, which is why I was so horrified to have to give them up.
So this week in addition to chicken chili, we'll be having:
http://www.101cookbooks.com/archives/kabocha-french-lentil-soup-recipe.html
And
http://www.101cookbooks.com/archives/farro-and-roasted-butternut-squash-recipe.html
Thanks to the person who referred us to the site that held these recipes. Maybe Dancetracer? I went back to see who mentioned it but didn't see it.....maybe on another thread?
Even tho it is not really a soup, I will post my made up chicken chili recipe on the healthy soup thread when I have a minute to get it written down. It started out pretty soupy..so I added lots more beans.
Will let you know how these other recipes turn out.....
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OK, so now I may have discovered a reason I would not be a good vegetarian. The French Lentil Soup was way too bland in flavor for me....even with all those exotic spices....so in the end I just added three packets of chicken savory choice concentrated broth. Not too worried about the extra sodium since I left out the teaspoon of sea salt it originally called for. Much better taste for this carnivorous family!
Off to watch the Pats! -
Thanks for the links Lacey - and nope, it wasn't me who put the link to that site up. Oh, and thanks for the heads up on the recipe!
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I have cooked several of Heidi Swanson's recipes (101 Cookbooks) and like you I sometimes need to boost the seasonings a bit. But I will give her credit for teaching me to roast brussels sprouts properly. I used to loathe them, but now I keep them in the fridge and pop them like candy.
And I will also give her some love for introducing me to Rancho Gordo heirloom beans. I order a variety from their website every fall now, and they get us through till springtime brings fresh peas to the market. All the RB beans I've tried so far are exceptional enough to star as main courses, which makes it well worth it to spend $5 a pound on them!
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I will check out the soup thread. I have heard you can sub any kind of nuts instead of tahini in hummus. I love hummus too and eat it less often now. I love it on fresh veggies. Oh well.
I have been cooking a lot with quinoa, barley, lentils and beans lately. I just started putting more on my cooking blog. I like the Cooking Quinoa website - has some interesting recipes.
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MDG-I tried to look at your cooking blog but all that came up was a very small welcome and a full page of adds. Is this the right place you have on your signature?
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For those who eat hummus.....so much easier to open a can of chick peas, and flavor with vinaigrette and herbs de Provence. Also works with other canned beans. An easy and cheap lunch.
I have made hummus with olive oil in lieu of Tahini sauce. I add in a bit of cumin and tastes just fine. Parsley and garlic are great additions, as is a bit of lemon juice. However, I have to admit to being sick of hummus. Have had way too much of the stuff.
Cows, even those who don't get hormones, can get mastitis. They are prone to stepping on their teats, and from there getting infected udders. Most antibiotics injected into their quarters (the equivalent of a breast) are expelled within 72 hours. The milk cannot be used, and it is routinely tested for antibiotics. That was a number of years ago, and things are even more stringent now. Bacteria counts are also monitored and a farmer can be shut down if things are not kept in control.
(As an aside, I find it cruel that the "completely organic" folks sometimes don't treat their cattle. What usually happens though, is that the cow is treated, and then sold to conventional farms where she can live out her productive life. Sometimes cows need systemic antibiotics as do we. Things like cutting their feet and then getting infected toes. It happens.)
My big worry is that everyone here is getting enough protein. You need it during chemo, and you need it to heal. You need more, not less than normal. So this is important in considering any diet changes. I think I still eat more protein than I did prior to diagnosis. Your body takes a long time to recover completely. So my aim was for 80g daily. I eat less now.
I feel no guilt at all about eating an 8-10 oz serving of meat.
I don't worry about sugar. I am not a huge user. I did eat some local honey today and it was delish. And I put maple syrup on my steel cut oatmeal. YUM.
Soy is the big one I avoid. And flax, although I do eat crackers sometimes. Most of the seeds go through you.
The big organic one I eat is eggs.....not a place to cut corners. Otherwise, I make most of my meals from scratch. I do cut some corners such as the pasta sauce I used last night. (I don't make pasta either.) But I start with a bag of potatoes, and not frozen for example. I eat tons of fruits and veggies, supplementing with frozen in the winter.
Finally, I think there is nothing better in life than a lovely dessert or pastry. Not all the time, but certainly as a treat. Food is very important to me, and each meal a celebration. I intend to keep things that way.
Because I didn't go through treatment to live a life of fear and deprivation.
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Flax is an interesting issue. I've been doing some reading about it (but certainly don't consider myself an expert), and it sounds like it may be a good thing, especially for someone like me who is about to start radiation.
I read this pamphlet (and other sources, but this one is from the American Institute for Cancer Research which seems to be a reputable source):
Flaxseed and Breast Cancer: The Take-Home (PDF)
an excerpt:
Does flaxseed lower risk for cancer?
Flaxseed may contribute to lower cancer risk, but research is too limited to
recommend it for cancer protection.
Flaxseed's effects vary depending on diet, hormones, genetics and more.
1 to 4 tablespoons of ground flaxseed per day appears to be safe and potentially
protective against breast cancer based on studies using those amounts.
I heard that flaxseed might increase risk for getting breast cancer.
Studies have not shown that flaxseed increases incidence or recurrence of breast
cancer.
They said you also need to discuss it with your doc if you are on Tamoxifen, but that animal studies haven't shown it to interfere.
Basically, it sounds like most of the studies have been in animals. So the evidence is encouraging, but not strong enough yet to really push it one way or the other. However, I found animal studies that show that flax really helped reduce pulmonary fibrosis when the lungs were radiated, yet did not impair the ability of the radiation to kill the cancer. Now none of this is in humans, so not strong evidence...but I'm going to talk to my RO about it to see if she's ok with me adding a tablespoon or so of flax to my diet every day. It may not make a huge difference either way, but I'd like to feel like I'm doing something to mitigate the negative effects of radiation...if it's even possible. I won't, however, take supplements (I feel whole foods are safer) or do anything my doc advises against.
Sorry to blabber on! This obviously is something I've been thinking about a lot lately!
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Back to report on the farro recipe... It was wonderful, tho more steps than I'd go through on a work night.....a Sunday cookfest recipe. I never used the goat cheese with it, (purely forgot since my house was filled with football excitement when I served it), and it was still so delicious. Farro is satisfyingly crunchy, and this "salad" can be served at room temp or heated. Now I wish I could remember where I picked up my little bag of farro!!
I recall hitting several stores before finding it. Was shocked that Whole Foods didn't have it among the many loose grains it features. Anyway, it was worth the hunt!
I got a chuckle today from a little guy I counsel who gave me his scoop on super foods. Not sure why he even started talking about them, and he certainly doesn't know about my recent super focus on these since none of my client population knows about my BC experience. But apparently, his mom provides some really healthy meals to her kids (yay!), and he could rattle off every fruit and vegetable that provides great nutrition....even knowing the super foods (kale, Brussels sprouts, cabbage). So cute! He did insist that strawberries were higher in nutritional content than blueberries, and I wasn't so sure about that...but I'll be sure to look it up! -
Christine Horner, a surgeon, has been investigating the causes of breast cancer for many years and has a lot to say about what to avoid and what to add to the diet. The main reason dairy is frowned upon is because of the very low BC rate in countries where dairy is not a part of the normal diet. My Oncologist, Radiologist and Surgeon all suggested cutting down alcohol consumption but a glass of red wine here and there is fine. Even one per night. I was told to cut down on red meat- max twice per week. Increase veg and fruit, water. I have cut out most sugar, I eat a lot of fish, chia seeds, lsa, walnuts. I have cut down on my dairy but my oncologist said to get plenty of calcium and not cut dairy out.
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Ginsing, thanks for the info on dairy.
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New study on fiber:
Major Review: More Fiber Lowers Risk of Breast Cancer
Research shows that diets high in fiber reduce the risk of colorectal cancer. Now, a major analysis of the literature that included almost one million women suggests that dietary fiber may also protect against breast cancer.
The research was funded by the World Cancer Research Fund as part of AICR/WCRF's Continuous Update Project (CUP), an ongoing review of cancer prevention research. It builds on a 2007 and 2009 AICR/WCRF review of the literature, which concluded the evidence linking dietary fiber and breast cancer prevention was too limited or inconsistent to draw a conclusion.
How many grams of fiber do you all shoot for in a day?
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I have no idea how to count fibre grams, to be honest. I am finding it daunting enough to try to get an idea of crabs and calories, given that I have never done diets and stuff. I am a diet virgin

However, I try to take the high-fibre option whenever there is a choice. I get oats from the bio-store that are really rough. We get dark bread from a baker who grinds his own flour. I try to eat as many veggies and fruits as I can manage.
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I eat oatmeal laced this walnuts or almonds almost every morning. I sweeten it with a banana.
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merilee, I put walnuts in my oatmeal as well, along with berries (from the freezer) and quite a bit of cinnamon. I find that the cinnamon mimics sweetness for me.
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Momie- I have some nice cinnamon you might like.
It is roasted Siagon Cinnamon from McCormicks gourmet collection-yum! It is very sweet.
Also Kroger carries a nice tea in their private selection line called Sweet Cinnamon Spice. It helps when I have a sweet tooth. You would like it.
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I alternate between Oatmeal, Redriver cereal ,or a yohgurt berry fruit smoothie for breakfast.I need to get enough energy out of my breakfast to get me to the gym.
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I found a great recipe for steel cuts oats. You can either get them in bulk or Bob's Red Mill brand. Put 1 1/2 cups oats in six cups water in a pot. Do this in the evening before you go to bed. Bring to a boil and boil for one minute. Remove from heat and cover with lid. The next morning add alittle water if you need to and bring back to a boil. Turn down to simmer and stir occasionally for ten minutes until creamy. Serve with walnuts, almonds, bananas, or cranberries. You will have enough for six to eight servings so I put leftover in the fridge in a covered bowl and take out a serving each morning. Heat in microwave for a minute and a half. Very nutritious and tasty.
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I was really glad to see the discussion about breakfast. I am really struggling with what to eat for breakfast. I find it to be the most difficult meal. To begin with, I am not a morning person and I eat before I leave the house in the morning. SO, it has to be really quick because I am always short on time.
Has anyone found a (dry) cereal that doesn't have to be cooked that is within the healthy for ER+ guidelines? Even the organic/healthy cereal at the health food store has sugar! The only thing I have found without sugar is Hodgson Mill Apples and More Muesli, but it has whole flax seed. I know that flax seed is not a good thing for ER+, but is it ground flax seed? whole flax seed? Flax seed oil? It is my understanding (can not remember where I read it...) that whole flax seed do not get digested the same (as ground and oil) and primarily act as intestine/colon sweepers. Anyone know anything about this?
Thanks and keep the breakfast ideas coming, please!
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FLWarrior, I sometimes make my own muesli. It is really pretty easy. Get some rolled oats for you base, then add chopped nuts, dried fruit and seeds (not flax), shake it all up and store in a large jar of some kind. If you like bananas, keep some around to add when you eat it.
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If you do not want to make Muesli yourself, Familia makes a "no sugar added" Muesli (you can even buy it on amazon, if your grocer does not carry it). But it is not organic.
For another sources of Steel Cut Oats, Whole Foods makes an organic version. And McCanns now has a quick and easy steel cut oats---it takes about 5 minutes to cook and is just like the longer cooking varieties. It is not organic however.
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FLWarrior, I just saw your entry about flaxseed concerns. Have you looked at this summary of current research?
http://foodforbreastcancer.com/foods/flaxseed
While all of this research on so many foods can be confusing (especially since so many studies are contradictory!) so far flaxseed seems to be okay .....I think.
It's sesame that seems to be the culprit of seeds. -
Hi Lacey!
I love sesame seeds so it is indeed bad news if I can no longer eat them. Could you please direct me to the article or study that says they are a "no no"? This bc sucks. It is hard enough to have the disease without discovering that some favorite foods are on the "not to be eaten" list.
Thanks for your time.
Mandy
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Try the breakfast recipes in The Pink Ribbon Diet for some tasty breakfast recipes, including granola.
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