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  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited January 2012

    Cynthia, which drug do you think is causing your eyebrows and leg hair to go?

  • Naniam
    Naniam Member Posts: 1,766
    edited January 2012

    Cynthia, I was to get my next Faslodex on Monday also but they are closed for Dr. King's holiday so I wait a week.

    When I was on chemo before, Merle Norman had something they recommended for eyebrows.  I really liked it.  Might want to check there.  I'm loosing hair but not bad, eyebrows are holding.  I take Biotin.  I'm wondering about coloring my hair now - it is definitely dryer. 

  • Cynthia1962
    Cynthia1962 Member Posts: 1,424
    edited January 2012

    Lulubee - I think it's the Faslodex causing my hair to disappear.  My leg hair and eyebrows first began to thin when I began Arimidex, so the Faslodex is just continuing the process.  I'm grateful that, for now, most of my hair loss is below my waist.  lol 

    Naniam - Thanks for the recommendation.  My hair is very dry now also.  I used to have to wash my hair daily, then chemo dried it out some, and the antihormones even more.  Now, I can go days without having to wash it.  One of the perks of getting "old" and dry, I guess.  I told my husband that his razor will last longer now that I won't be using it to shave my legs.  He commented on my managing to find a silver lining.  lol 

    Ask your stylist about whether coloring your hair is a good idea.  There are types of coloring that actually condition hair so that might work for dry hair. 

  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited January 2012

    Cynthia, I looked it up in a couple of places, and apparently hair loss is a side effect of Faslodex, but it's a pretty small percentage of users that report it.  I agree with Naniam that biotin would be a good thing to try.  When my hair starts shedding from a PTSD flare, I take 5000 mg of biotin per day for a while, and I do think it helps eventually (not overnight).  I also eat raw oysters about once a month (at a safe and reputable oyster bar!) for a big whammy infusion of good old bioavailable zinc... also good for the white cell counts, from what I've heard.

    Have you tried coconut oil?  Put a pea-sized dab in your palms, rub it around till it's warm and melty, and then lightly scrunch your hands through the ends of your hair.  It might leave your hair feeling a little greasy at first, but it will soak in pretty quickly.  I also eat a spoonful of it every day to get some good fats in my system. 

  • jlmacy
    jlmacy Member Posts: 35
    edited January 2012

    I had my third set of Faslodex injections January 6. So far I have experienced no problems until about 4-5 days ago. I have noticed a stinging, burning sensation near the injection site on the left side. It seems to be especially noticeable when I get up in the morning or when I have been sitting for a while. It's not extremely painful, just sore, There is no redness or lumpiness. Just thought it was strange to have discomfort start a week later. I'm not overly concerned, just wondering if anyone else has experienced this...CT scans and bone scan scheduled February 24. Sure hope this stuff is working!

  • Nanaskids
    Nanaskids Member Posts: 17
    edited January 2012

    Hi Nancyh, welcome to the club!! I will go for my 3rd round of Faslodex and Xgena tomorrow. I'm more fatigued, also keep a bad taste in my mouth. I'm constantly using mouthwash and mints to try and get rid of it. I've had some pain but not bad enough to even take a tylenol. Sure hope this stuff works for all of us.

  • Naniam
    Naniam Member Posts: 1,766
    edited January 2012

    Jlmacy - you have only had your 3rd set of Faslodex injections and are having scans end of February?   I was told we wouldn't know for 6 months if it was working and my scans would be around every 4-6 months.

    I get kind of frustrated - there doesn't seem to be a "normal standard" of when to scan. You would think there would be one. 

    Only thought that comes to my mind about the pain is that perhaps you sat in some position or lay on it during the night that just put pressure on the injection site.  I have had injection site soreness after every injection for a few days.   

  • jlmacy
    jlmacy Member Posts: 35
    edited January 2012

    Hi Naniam - I know what you mean about the "normal standard" thing. My scans will be three weeks after my 4th injection with a follow up appointment a week later along with a 5th shot, I have read about others who started with injections every two weeks. I hate that week of waiting to hear the results! I started with Femara in September 2010, had left mastectomy in June 2011, and scans in November showed slight progression in my lung mets. Other than the problems I had with my primary tumor (bleeding, etc) I have been pretty well. Everyone says I look great! I keep waiting for the axe to fall. Who really knows???

    Joanie

  • Cynthia1962
    Cynthia1962 Member Posts: 1,424
    edited January 2012

    I saw my onc today and it looks as if I won't be in the Faslodex Girls much longer.  My CEA has risen a smidge and while my onc says not to worry, he is having me get a bone scan and see him in a month instead of two.  His words say one thing, but his actions say another.  This is how it went with the Arimidex and about how long I got on it, too.  Feeling kind of numb.  Seems as if my life is leaking away in 7 month increments and, while I'm grateful for that time, it seems to be happening too fast.

    Naniam - My tumor markers showed a response to Faslodex after the second month and continued to drop even after that so perhaps some women respond sooner and others later.  

  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited January 2012

    Cynthia, breathe dear...praying for you here, my friend.

  • lukejessesmom
    lukejessesmom Member Posts: 598
    edited January 2012

     i started faslodex in October and am experiencing horrible side effects. Heard today my ca 27.29 is still rising, currently at 122. Meeting with oncologist Tuesday to decide whether to stick with the faslodex or try something new. Last scans were in September and there was no progression but clearly something is going on. I feel depressed, fatigued and am experiencing horrible bone and body aches. They are skipping treatment this week until I meet with dr. next week.

  • Naniam
    Naniam Member Posts: 1,766
    edited January 2012

    My oncologist doesn't do tumor markers and I have no idea what CA is - is that part of the tumor markers?

    So the only way we will have to measure is scans.

    Luke and Jesses Mom - I have lots of fatigue and bone pain.  I did ask for something for the fatigue.  I think with the pain and fatigue it is easy to get depressed.  Ritalin, a low dose, is something that helps with fatigue.  Do talk to your oncologist and there are oncologist that give this to help with the fatigue. 

  • PJB
    PJB Member Posts: 2,615
    edited January 2012

    Well, ugh. After five rounds of Faslodex so far, TMs have gone from 42 to 166. Scans this week, but I'm not hopeful. I really don't have any other chemo options available. I've used up all but Arimidex on the hormonal side. Not liking this one bit. 

  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited January 2012

    Golly -- it's troubling to read this thread today. Cynthia, lukejessesmom and now PJB with markers rising after 5-7 months on Faslodex.  

    First and foremost, I want to say to all three of you (and any others in those shoes):  Please hang in there.  You're all on my heart and I'm praying for you this morning.

    I hope this doesn't come off as terribly insensitive -- I don't want to sound like I'm just navel-gazing in response to this run of worrisome news here -- but having had only one injection of this stuff so far, what I'd really like to know right now is if there are women out there who have had a long run on Faslodex.

    Anybody?

  • Naniam
    Naniam Member Posts: 1,766
    edited January 2012

    Cynthia and PJB, has the oncologist talked with you about the Afinitor(sp) and an AI as options to try.

    I certainly don't have knowledge of many of these drugs.  Faslodex is the first one for me.  I am truly sorry that you didn't get a very long run but pray that the combination above lots of others are trying, can be an option for you too.

    Hugs    Brenda 

  • Cynthia1962
    Cynthia1962 Member Posts: 1,424
    edited January 2012

    lulubee - thank you so much for replying to my thread earlier and for your obvious caring and concern.  It is disheartening that so many women seem to be continuing to progress after a short time of Faslodex.  I do know, however, that there are women who got years out it and they're on BCO somewhere.  I sure was hoping that I would be one of those women, but I believe that my onc considers 7 months a good run for an anti-hormonal. 

    I'm am definitely feeling the side effects today of the Faslodex.  I ache in different locations and I had sharp pains zapping me in my elbow this morning.  That's a new one.  I took ibuprofen and benedryl, then later when those weren't enough, I took a 1/4 of Darvocet (don't want to waste it since it's hard to get now).  lol 

    It's been an emotional 24 hrs., but I'm hoping to find my "denial" bubble again soon so I can march on with less tears.

    lukejessesmom & PJB - sorry to hear you're in the same boat.  I hope we all find good alternatives to use instead.  PJB - have you used Megace yet?  That's the next one for me.

  • PJB
    PJB Member Posts: 2,615
    edited January 2012

    I'll have to check out Megace - that's  new one on me. I'm still hoping the CT tomorrow will show stable at least, despite rising TMs. I have read that TMs can go up on Faslodex for 6 months or even more while patients show some clinical response. Crossing fingers, toes and HAIR (since I can do that now, if not very well yet).... 

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited January 2012

    To be honest, having this thread plus the hormonal thread is way too much work for me! I am now 21 months NED with Faslodex. My markers came down a full 13 points last month. They haven't been this low since August 2009.

    So, there is plenty of hope that Faslodex can give you a long run.

    *susan* 

  • AmryAnn47
    AmryAnn47 Member Posts: 96
    edited January 2012

    Wonderful results for you Susan, I am so happy for you.  NED is wonderful so glad it is working for youl

    PJB Here is to good scans tomorrow despite rising markers--hope those mean those nasty tumors are dying!

    Had my third round of Faslodex today but am feeling very discouraged.  TM's went from 755 to 1708 but scariest of all is that the alkaline phosphotase liver results went up over 100 pts to 379 since bloodwork Dec 13.  I know it is too early to really be working but if my liver gives out then I might not be here when the Faslodex fianlly does kick in. 

     Repeating bloodwork in two wks & if things don't look better will have to decide where to go from here.

  • LuAnnH
    LuAnnH Member Posts: 8,847
    edited January 2012

    lulubee, I am just ending my run on faslodex and I was on it a little bit over 5 years, so it can work for a long time.  The down side is it can take a long time to kick in also.

    Just be sure you guys are at the new dosing (which is 2 shots now, can't remember the mg) but it can be a very easy doable solution.  In fact it spoiled me and almost made me forget I had cancer...  :( 

    I am on blood thinners but don't normally have more than a drop or two of blood on my bandaids when I remove them.  The exception is a couple times my left hip squirted out like a gusher spewing blood everywhere!  The first time was funny because my nurse and I were joking around and then the blood flew and we both laughed so hard.  Well she gave me the shot in the restroom in the chemo area and the noise from that room echoed and everyone was staring at us as we left.  So I looked at my nurse and said "Amy, was it good for you?  Because it was great for me!  By the way, sorry about the mess I made on you!" LOL LOL  people that knew me lost it and the others just didn't know what to say.  I try hard to have fun in that nasty chemo room hehehe  :)

    My shot about 2 months ago was the first one to every cause any real issue, the onc thinks the nurse might have hit a blood vessel because I have this lump at the injection side and a wound the size of a dime still trying to heal up.  It is so weird, the nurses said they have never seen this happen before but I say leave it to me to be different!

    Good luck with the scans ladies, I really hope this works for you all since it can be so easy to do.

  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited January 2012

    Good to hear some encouraging reports.

    Mary Ann, let's just hope PJB is right and your rising markers are just par for the course at first.

    I go for my second loading dose on Friday, two weeks from the first shots.  I don't know if it's fatigue from Faslodex or if I'm just turning into a dull old bum, but I have had no energy nor motivation this week whatsoever.  I usually have trouble sitting still for more than ten minutes, but golly, for days now I have had to totally will myself to get up and cook dinner for my family. Once I get going I seem to be okay, but honestly, I would be perfectly happy to just lounge all day and never move a muscle.  I don't want to do a darn thing. This is so odd.

    But ya know, life keeps happening and stuff is piling up and this just won't do.  I sure hope it passes... but with a second dose coming right up, I may be a zombie next week.

    One good thing -- after a couple of weeks off Femara, my hands feel SO MUCH BETTER.  It is so nice to be able to move my hands without that constant thick, stiff, burning pain. 

  • lukejessesmom
    lukejessesmom Member Posts: 598
    edited January 2012

    Well I did find out at my dr. visit this afternoon that I was running a fever of 100.2. Had no idea since I stay hot all of the time anyway. Hoping that my feeling so bad may be coming from a virus and not just from the Faslodex. I was given an antiobiotic so I guess I will see what's going on when I see dr. on Tuesday and hopefully continue with the Faslodex. Hope my whining did not scare any of you who are just starting on this treatment.

  • AmryAnn47
    AmryAnn47 Member Posts: 96
    edited January 2012

    lulubee,

    thanks for the encouraging words.  I understand about the fatigue but I joked with the nurse that did my vitals at my onc's office when she asked my fatigue level I told her 8--but "I earned it" with all that I ordinarily do around here and the last 2 wks had me driving to "the big city" almost every day for my DH's cardiac, pain, foot DR appts and diabetic wound treatment (home health care didn't work out on this for us) as well as my own labs & DRs--he can"t tolerate long days in town so we can only do one DR at a time.  Would like to just sit in my jammies and vegetate for a couple of days.  Altho the weather is supposed to be gorgeous here this weekend and it will be tough to not go work outside in the yard or garden.

    PJB when will you get your scan results?

    Lukejessesmom, at least you can cure an infx and maybe you will feel much better when you recover.  Pretty tough getting sick when you are starting a new tx.  Here is hoping for a quick recovery !

  • PJB
    PJB Member Posts: 2,615
    edited January 2012

    STABLE! What an awesome word in every way. So despite rise in tumor markers over the 5 months I've had Faslodex shots (from 42 to 166 - down from my all-time high of 997 last year), my liver and bones have stayed the same. I'm going with maybe even a little better, since my diffuse liver mets are so hard to read and we know SOME of the tissue is dead tissue, but not how much. 

    I hope I can ride this train for years... Big hugs to all of you who've helped me get through this.  Paula

  • AmryAnn47
    AmryAnn47 Member Posts: 96
    edited January 2012

    YAY!!!  Here is to a long time on the faslodex!!!

  • Naniam
    Naniam Member Posts: 1,766
    edited January 2012

    Paula, I teared up, honestly, when I saw your post.  I know you were so worried and I could not have been happier when I saw your good report.   Glad you can still hang with this thread for a very long time.

    Hugs,  Brenda 

  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited January 2012

    Yay, Paula!  YAAAAAAY!

    Have a GREAT weekend! 

  • PJB
    PJB Member Posts: 2,615
    edited January 2012

    Thanks, girls. I feel like I got a four-month get-out-of-jail-free card! For "normal' people, that doesn't seem like long. To me, it seems like a loooooong time. Praying we all get a long time break, on Faslodex or whatever's next. 

  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited January 2012

    I got my second loading dose yesterday afternoon.  Felt a little icky to the tummy last night and didn't sleep all that great, and today I have that easily winded feeling.  I think I just need to keep moving though, to keep from locking up.

    Do y'all think this stuff causes fatigue?  Because I have been about as peppy as a tree sloth this past week or two.

    Sometimes, though, I wonder if I'm blaming treatment drugs for making me feel tired and lazy when it's just as likely that the culprit is actually the cancer.  When I start wondering why I feel a little punky I think 'uhh hello, earth to lulubee, ya have stinkin cancer in every vertebral and pelvic body, so... DUH, answer the clue phone already.'

  • nancyh
    nancyh Member Posts: 2,644
    edited January 2012

    Paula - SO HAPPY for you!!  Just awesome, I really hope Faslodex gives you a nice long ride.  Did you find out about adding Everolimus?   

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