December 2011 Surgeries - want to wait together?

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  • Ginger48
    Ginger48 Member Posts: 1,978
    edited January 2012

    Bogie- I think cellulitis can be associated with lymphedema. My LE specialist told me to watch any cuts or scratches for signs of cellulitis.

  • Bogie
    Bogie Member Posts: 286
    edited January 2012

    VShowe, I had a double mastectomy on 12/20 and haven't had any stomache problems other than bloated. Try drinking more water and walking along with maybe a mild stool softener, could that be the issue? Are you getting your fruits and verges in there.



    How was chemo? That will be my next stop I think.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited January 2012
    Kaara - those are certainly different numbers than I would get with cancermath.net, but admittedly, I'm not sure how to discern the difference between the 15 year mortality risk (which I think, on cancermath.net must assumes adjuvant therapy) and the statistics your MO is quoting.
  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited January 2012

    vshowe - would you like to be added to the official list? If so, just let me know and I'm happy to add you.

    I have not had stomach aches. I hope yours are feeling better soon.

    -Judy

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited January 2012

    vshowe...the pain meds and antibiotics made my stomach hurt as well. Also I had a lot of stomach swelling. MY uni mx was Dec 27th. It's getting better. I'm taking very few meds...only muscle relaxants once a day and my stomach feels so much better. The swelling is also going down.

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited January 2012

    Blessings, I dont think they need as big an opening to replace the implants, so maybe you should go to work on them.  Ask!  LOL

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited January 2012

    Hi Ladies,

    I have a question for those that have TE's. Had a BMX on 12/21 and my first fill (60cc) last Monday. Felt fine until yesterday. Now for the past 48 hours the TE's are absolutley killing me. Cannot get comfortable. Contemplating taking some pain meds tonight even though I haven't had any in a couple weeks.I thought if I would be painful it would have happened shortly after the fill not 5 days later.

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited January 2012

    Bogie, I had the same thing!  Picked up DCIS in the rt breast, but not the invasive 1.6 cm in my left.  So I am getting chemo I start on the 26th, getting my port on the 24th.  I went back to work this week and will work next week, then I am off.  My onco dx was canceled when the tissue showed HR2/neu, which my Onc said trumped any other score. 

     Kara, everyone must make their own decision, but one thing you might consider is that they have done a lot of research on bc.  my mom had a bmx with no nodal involvement and they declared here free and clear, and she still passed away from mets 7 years later.  That was 18 years ago.  They have learned so much, I am doing chemo even without nodal involvement, because it works for me.I am hoping it gives me the edge and I make it longer that 7 years!  Whatever you decide, I wish you the best.  

  • chrissilini
    chrissilini Member Posts: 313
    edited January 2012

    Kaara...what kind of surgery did you have? Lumpectomy?MX? Nothing? I'm reading the posts of some that have very similar dx to mine and are doing chemo, rads, ht and my mo has told me I really don't need anything. I had a bmx on Dec 8. I like my mo which I don't need to see again according to her but the more I read the more I think I'm not doing enough to reduce the risk of recurrence. I'm so confused and just at a loss for what to do.

  • Bogie
    Bogie Member Posts: 286
    edited January 2012

    Moon, I'm confused that your oncologist cancelled the Oncotype test after your HER2 test came out negative?



    I'm still learning so bare with me. My BS called me with a negative result on HER2 test. He then said he will now order the oncotype test to determine if I will have chemo.

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited January 2012

    Bogie - Moon is Her2 positive, not negative (it's sometimes referred to Her2/neu)  if you look at her diagnosis it's positive.

    -Judy

  • Ginger48
    Ginger48 Member Posts: 1,978
    edited January 2012

    MomoftwoinME- I have heard of people having discomfort with TE's at all different points in the process. Sometimes when it shifts a little you may get pain where you did not have it before. I needed to take pain meds and muscle relaxers throughout the process. I do think you should check in with your doctor to let them know about the pain but don't feel like it is not ok to take something for the pain.

  • Bogie
    Bogie Member Posts: 286
    edited January 2012

    Cookie, thank you for clarifying, I thought I wasn't understanding the process or how my surgeon explained mine. Medical terminology always a work in process and all new to me. I get lost in it all and can be overwhelming at times. I think I learn more from this board than my own Physicians!

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited January 2012

    Yep. It's a lot to get through and understand. Times like this I'm thankful that I'm a sciency person. I've also been dealing with this, like you, since early August so I've had more time than many to really do a ton of research and reading and wrap my head around what's going on.

    -Judy

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2012
    Kaara - my RO told me the same thing about antioxidants. I was very surprised. I don't normally take any but was thinking that maybe extra vitamins and antioxidants would help fend off a recurrance. Doesn't sound like that will be happening.
  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited January 2012

    Well, apparently, I have no immune system.

    I got so sick before my second postoned surgery, I stayed home for over a month. I wore a surgical mask to all my doctors appts. When I came home from my BMX/TEs, we told family and friends I was in quarantine. (We seem to have a particular group of people that think nothing of going everywhere when they're sick and spewing germs.)

    I kept my surgical mask on whenever I went out in public.....church, quilt class, bible study, grocery store.

    So now, almost six weeks later, I decided I had to start going places without my mask to build up my immune system. So I left my mask off, and just depended on hand sanitizer a few times.

    What do I get? Some horrid stomach flu....no vomiting, but relentless nausea, diarrhea, no appetite. Thank goodness for the anti-nausea meds they sent home with me. Fever was 102 yesterday, but that didn't last long. Nothing looks odd on my body...no redness, no probs with incisions healing....just.....YUCK!!!!

    Missed my FIL's 90th birthday party today. Just stayed home and slept.

    I'm sure this, too, shall pass.....but in the meantime, GRRRRRRR!!!!

    p.s. Sure took my mind off my TEs.  Wink

  • CarolAnn6
    CarolAnn6 Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2012

    Blessings- I am so sorry that you are sick. What a bummer. I hope a simple cold/ flu and nothing else.



    I am (3) weeks post op and oh, what a feeling. They say 4-6 weeks for healing and today at three weeks is so much better.



    Get my first TE filling this week. I saw the post about discomfort. Hope all goes well.



    Moonflw912 - good luck with your Chemo - I am sorry about you losing your Mother to BC. Scary to walk away and then have come back. You sound strong and positive about your treatment plan.



    Goodnight all



  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited January 2012

    Blessings:  Have you had your vitamin D levels checked?  That is the first line of defense in building up your immune system.  It needs to be somewhere between 50-70 and more towards the 70 range to fight bc.  If you are not already doing it, start supplementing with 5,000 IU's daily.  That is what I had to do to get my levels from 27 to 54.  I was having the same problems before...one illness after another, now I haven't been sick in over a year, even with the stress of surgery.  This is why I was so disappointed when my RO told me I couldn't take antioxidants during rads.

    I hope you feel better soon...not fun to be sick!

    Kam170:  I went to cancermath and plugged in my numbers and I did come up with a very different set of statistics.  It says I have only a 2% chance of dying of cancer over the next 15 years.  It has programs that you can run with or without chemo and hormone treatment, but I didn't see on for without radiation, so it must assume you are getting radiation. 

  • Bogie
    Bogie Member Posts: 286
    edited January 2012

    Blessings I hope you feel better soon, keep resting and get past this flu.

    Carolann, I agree I'm also 3 weeks post op bilateral mastectomy with TA and seemed to really turn the corner the last few days. It took from August until 12/20 to get my surgery scheduled. My BS took so many test, MRI,core and needle biopsies, ultrasound, and every test seemed to take longer than the one before for results. BS continued to tell me, no risk in waiting yours is not invasive, they took their sweet time about it all, I was at thier Mercy reluctantly. So I dove into work in the meantime.



    Well low and behold turned out it was Invasive ! Its been a long 5 months of aggravation, and I haven't even gotten my Oncotype test or comple treatment plan yet. I'm again trying to be patient...grrrrr

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited January 2012

    Yes, please add Me to the official list, thanks.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited January 2012

    Hey Bogie

    I'm 2 months out from Dx and I already felt that was delayed unnecessarily by atleast 2 weeks due to my primary doctor's "vacations." I can imagine how you feel 5 months out, but none of my doctors seem concerned with the delays and i'm grade 3 also. Being her2- may be part of it. My next date is Friday, but may be postponed til the 24th now!

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited January 2012

    Kaara- needless to say, I don't like your MO's numbers....so do you think he was talking about without radiation? Or perhaps a different statistic?



  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited January 2012

    Kam170:  The RO was the one who gave me those numbers.  The MO today, after factoring in my oncotype score of 13, said it was a 9% chance of recurrance (assuming I did tamoxifen) and if I didn't do rads, it would go up by 5%.  If I didn't do either, about 30%.

    I don't want to do the six week rads, so I'm trying to get into a clinical trial for a short term rads therapy that only radiates the surgical site, externally.  One week and it's over.  I hope I'm lucky enough to be accepted.  As for tamoxifen, I have to start my research on that and see where it goes. 

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited January 2012

    Kaara - that still seems "worse" than cancermath.net with a Grade 1.  At OHSU, they have this intrabeam radiation, where they plant a seed at the tumor site.  I didn't listen too hard since I didn't qualify...protocol only allows it to be done on those 60 years and older.  Sounded like a good way to avoid the skin issues.  My friend was also telling me about something else a friend of her's did at their Eugene,OR campus, with a balloon.  May have been the same thing as this woman was 60 years old.  Both were internal, though.  Good luck!

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited January 2012

    Karol & others - the balloon thing is called partial breast radiation where they put in a balloon and then twice a day have a robot that holdss a radioactive seed in the area in various positions within the cavity. It is done twice a day for 1 week and you're done, but as I, and many of you, have found out, it's not approved for younger women. As a 41 year old I was definitely out and I think it's 60 year olds and up that it's approved for.

    For me, I ended up not needing radiation at all, after my UMX, but until the UMX, I would have needed it after my lumpectomies.

    -Judy

  • CarolAnn6
    CarolAnn6 Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2012

    Quick question ladies -



    For those of you with December surgeries that included TE's. How big a deal was your first fill? Would go to the reconstrction community site, but I like this group. :)



    Shall I take a pain pill pre fill? post? Wait and see? I also still have cording in my left arm.



    Thanks! Planning my week.

  • KrystalRose
    KrystalRose Member Posts: 22
    edited January 2012

    My TE where filled pretty well at time of surgery Dec 8.  I have had two fills since and my experience is that it really doesn't hurt.  The needle insertion is the part I don't like.  If you feel discomfort put some ice on them and take a tylenol and it should be okay. 

  • chrissilini
    chrissilini Member Posts: 313
    edited January 2012

    Can someone please help me to understand? I just don't understand the differences in treatments? Kaara, your mo told you your chance of recurrence was 30% with no further treatment? My dx was very similar to yours and besides the bmx no further treatment has been suggested. My mo said my chance of recurrence was very small. This is driving me crazy. At times I'm confident in my and her decision and then I wonder if I need to be doing something. I'm gonna go nuts.

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited January 2012

    Carolann6 my TEs were filled about 400 cc. I got my first fill of 100each two weeks ago. bit of a stick, bit tight feeling but no real pain, but I took. Tylenol as a precaution. I have to have my port put in, so I won't go for another fill until that heals.

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited January 2012

    CarolAnn - I was filled to 180 ccs in the OR, then had my first fills two weeks ago - 100 ccs.

    Didn't feel a thing on the left side, felt a tiny sting of the needle briefly on the right.

    Afterwards, the TEs actually felt BETTER!!!

    I was the one who laid in bed and cried for two weeks after I got home from the BMX because the TEs made me feel like my chest was on fire from the inside out.

    Now I think that once my body has gotten used to having foreign objects inside it, the fills are going to be o.k.

    However - keep in mind that I am NOT a slender person...I have lots of loose skin, and very lax pec muscles. My PS says that may be a huge plus for me right now. Undecided

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