January 2012 chemo
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This is my first post although I've been reading since I was diagnosed in November. Had a LMX on 12/27/11. I will start chemo on 1/30/12. It will be AC x 4 every two weeks and then T each week for 12 weeks. I'm still getting used to these terms. I have chemo school on 1/25.
I'm worried about the time I'm off work. Are any of you working during your chemo? Is it possible? How do you manage it? I did all right with the surgery, drains, etc. But I'm freaking out over the chemo. I live alone although my daughter is close by and will help as needed. I just wish the surgery was the end of it. Feels like this will last forever. I'm terribly stressed over the chemo part of this as well as the financial end of it all. Money is so tight it scares me!
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I just found out that I'm scheduled for the echocardiagram on Thursday and starting chemo next Monday, 1/23. I don't know why it takes them so long to get me in. That is 2 weeks after I was first supposed to start before the port placement collapsed my lung....
I know I am actually lucky to be starting later because I will be able to learn from all you wonderful women. I hope I am as brave and have the strength as all of you. I feel very tiny, shaky and scared right now.
Hi GeorgiaRai from a fellow GA girl. I can't believe that doctors do a chemo treatment the same day as port placement. I requested a week for the port to heal first as I had heard that the first 4-5 days are the worst pain after getting a port, then to put chemo pain on top of it just doesn't seem to be a good idea to me. Give me and my body one thing to deal with at a time, Thank YOU! I'm glad I did wait because the port placement not only was very painful but led to a partially collapsed lung which just got healed after a chest tube was put in. I hope your port and treatment go smooth and wishing you the best. Join in and let us know how you do.
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Day 5 after my first FEC and I have to leave the house today to go to my intro RO (rad onc) appt. Hoping the nausea will stay at bay since my quick visit to my PCP yesterday.
And my poor hair has just seemed to have given up already. All frizzy, flyaway and shapeless. I'm going to try the GHD on it but I think it's already a lost cause.
regards Jenn -
FLDREAMER, I understand exactly what you're saying. I made it through the surgery & recovery like a bull in a china shop but bottomed out when I was told I had to have chemo -- and then went lower when the MO increased the number of treatments after the oncotype results. I have not worked since the surgery -- am out on short term disability until 2/20 but the MO is making noises about not wanting me to go back until the chemo is done in May. I am single and have no family and the bills are frightening. I've been trying to sign up for any foundation that might offer copay relief to get some help because the disability check doesn't even cover the mortgage! Every time I go to MO it's another $50 co-pay and whatever $coinsurance plus the annual deductible and out-of-pocket $ (not to mention another RX$). I'll make it through about 6 months total but then I'll have to hit the retirement accound, there's no other choice.
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FLDREAMER, I was on a different regimen, TCH. I took off work for 4 days the week of chemo each time. Good luck, it will be over before you know it!
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Thanks for the advice, janetanned & CharB. I guess I'll just have coffee at one minute till midnight tonight and enjoy it as much as humanly possible, in case my taste for it goes away. I hadn't thought about associating it with treatment, but that makes total sense. Thanks for pointing it out.
I was a little concerned about chemo immediately after my port placement, CatWhispurrer, but everything got scheduled on short notice after the holidays. I didn't want to post-pone my infusion since I'd already come to terms with it and was emotionally ready to get started. Thanks for the good wishes; same to you! -
I've just spent hours reading all these posts as well as each of your past posts. (I did take a break.) I feel like I'm in college again trying to learn everything, remember it all and retain what I've read. I even made notes in a notebook I've started. Since my surgery on 12/27, I've tried to 'forget' I have cancer but now that chemo is looming ahead (1/30), I know I need to face reality.
At 69 years of age, I'm worried about how chemo will affect me. I have a cardiac history (triple by-pass in 2004), three stents, fibromyalgia, and rheumatoid arthritis. I'm scared of what the chemo will do to my body.
My name (FLDREAMER) is because I had plans to work only thru May of 2012 and then retire and move to Cape Coral Florida. Since I'm blessed to have a job with insurance and disability, I don't dare quit it and move anywhere. I live in Illinois and hate the snow. And the cold weather hurts my bones!
I've only cried three times since my diagnosis and today was one of them.
I thank all of you for your posts. They have been helpful. Although I may end up in a February chemo group, I feel I know you and will keep all of you in my thoughts and prayers.
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I just thought of a question which is very important to me. I am scheduled to do the chemo on a Monday and receive the shot (whatever that is) on Tuesday. Within a week or two of starting this regimen, I will be trying to return to work at least part time.
Is it better to schedule the chemo for a Thursday with the shot on Friday? Would that give me the weekend to recover so I could be a productive worker on the following Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday?
I do office work so I'll be sitting at a desk when I work. I'm worried about the fatigue as well as the nausea/etc. Comments, suggestions anyone?
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I think it depends on each person indiviadually. I started chemo a week ago today (9th) and then had neulasta next day (Tuesday). My bad days were Wednesday-Saturday this past week. I saw my onc today and he said my nausea lasted longer than most so next treatment I will be getting a bag of fluids and additional IV anti-nausea meds when I go to have my neulasta shot. He told me today that with all the meds out there something should be able to make me more comfortable.
Everyone is different but I have noticed most say their bad days are day 3 & 4. I am interested in what others might have to say are their bad days as well since it lasted so long for me.
Good luck with your first treament FLDDREAMER.
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FLDreamer- I am on TCH also, and when I told my MO I had the most help with my young kids over the weekends, she told me to schedule my chemo for Wednesdays. She predicted that Saturday and Sunday would be the worst for me. I have had 4 of the 6 so far and have to agree with her. Though I have had a harder time than most with my SE's, thus far Thursdays are okay, Friday late afternoon/evening gets rougher, and by Tuesday/Wednesday I feel more back to normal. I admire all of the women working through this. My best friend is a young mom recently diagnosed. She is on a different regimen but has kept working without adjusting her schedule much. She gets chemo Tuesday, takes off Friday, and has yet to miss a Monday. Good luck to you!
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I have found that everyday has been rough since my first treatment last Wed (11th) The weekend was far worse with the stomach pains but yesterday and today are the "Im so tired I can't move" days. Hoping tomorrow is better. Does anyone on the TCH have any effects JUST from the Herceptin infusion. I do that every week and tomorrow is my day. I don't have to do the TC for 2 more weeks.
I start school Wed so I am hoping the Hereceptin doesn't give me any weird stuff. Since it isn't a chemo drug I am hoping it's nothing.......
Katie
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I had my first AC on Thurs, Neulasta shot on Fri. I was nauseaus Fri, Sat & a little bit on Sunday. Manageable though. I have the luxury of working from home which I'm going to take advantage of this week - except for Thurs & Fri - doc appts. Ugh...I'm getting tired of them already.
I also had a very tearful breakdown earlier. I'm not used to feeling "sick." Before BC, I was a healthy 47 year old woman with allergies and asthma that popped up occasionally. I'm already sick of feeling sick. For those of you that have been through this already, when will I start feeling better?? I know I'm whining....can't help it tonight. I already tired of sitting in the recliner watching TV...I should be up doing laundry, straightening the kitchen, scrapbooking!! Anything....ugh.
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CharB22- I JUST had a tearful breakdown too. I keep thinking "why my boys?!" Why does their mom have to be sick. Now I put that in perspective cause some boys just lost their mothers to this horrid disease. Still though I want them to have a healthy mom. So that's my feel sorry for myself moment.
I am sitting in the recliner too. I have just one of my boys with me tonight. The littlest one is with my mom. I wanted to come home tonight and we agreed I could care for one of them. Tomorrow it's both of them.
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Kite - I think the same thing too -- why my boys?! They don't need a sick mom now.....I've got one in 8th grade and that whole high school thing is approaching and my youngest was just diagnosed with ADHD. You're right...it could be so much worse. They still have their mom. Even when I feel crappy. It just sucks. I thought I could handle this better.
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What a week. Ugh. Had my first AC last Tuesday. It's Monday, almost a full week out and the nausea and nausea associated with food odors has completely zapped my appetite. I have generic Zofran for the nausea and the constipation that goes along with it or the treatment. I've been drinking so much water and attempting to eat small bites throughout the day. Today I am so weak. I have my blood counts checked tomorrow and am hoping all is good there. Can anyone recommend an alternate nausea medication? This has been worse than I imagined. I knew I would have bad days but so far, they've outnumbered the good day.
I sincerely hope everyone is doing well with few-no side effects. I've read the posts with sickly eyeballs, so to those of you who are having ill effects from the procedures and or treatments, I cry a tear for you and am so sorry that you and your families are going through this. If you're feeling bad now, I hope you'll feel better soon. If you're having a good day, I hope those days continue.
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So, how does everyone feel the next day after chemo (day 2)? I know this is the day of the neulasta shot. I am starting AC next Monday and my boss called me tonight to ask what days I think I can work next week. I work part-time as a vet tech so it is a pretty demanding, on my feet, job. I was thinking of telling her day 2, 5 and 6, which would be Tue, Fri and Sat. Also, the shift is from 3:30 pm to 9 pm and Sat is noon-4. there is a 8-10 AM morning shift weekdays but I don't think I could bring myself to do those. Any thoughts on this? I know it is just going to be a guess until I go through it myself but I would at least like to try to guess the best days to try based on your experiences from those who have started.
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Char and Kite- I am right there with you. I feel the same way about my kids and have my share of tearful episodes. I'm so sorry you are feeling that way too.
Kite- I had 3/6 chemo cycles with a break for surgery and had two rounds of herceptin alone (at 3 week intervals). I had a headache for half a day after one, that may or may not have been related, and absolutely nothing the other time. I was so relieved to feel so good after it since I will have to be on it the remainder of the year and since chemo had knocked me down so much. I have heard that weekly infusions are supposed to be even easier in terms of potential side effects. Hope it's a breeze for you like I was assured by my MO it would be!
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CharB- You are handling it just fine. Who says we have to do it better anyways! It's a crappy ordeal no matter what. I've a case of the "what ifs" too and boy that doens't take me happy places. I think a lot of my whining is coming from a place of pure exhaustion, and defet. Being sick doesn't help our psyche at at all. On top of that I started my pierod today. JOY!
CJRT-- Thanks for the info, I was hoping it was mild if nothing at all. I want to at least have half a brain when I go to class the next day. I am so scared to start...I am really doubting if I can do it.
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Kite - New avatar? I didn't 'recognize' you at first! Very nice!
I know how you feel about feeling sorry for your children having a 'sick' mom. Even though mine are all in college, I still feel it hurts them. I've decided to make the most of what I'm dealing with and include them in most of my treatment and decisions (to a point). I am the child of a 'sick' mom. My mom was dx with bc when I was 18. She passed when I was 26. Back then, bc was something no one talked about. My mom was very private and we (her children) never really new what was going on. We knew she was sick. Everyone whispered about her treatment, but no one talked to us about it. When we asked, we were told not to worry. Needless to say, we worried and mourned quietly. How sad. I don't want that for my own children.
We talk openly about everything bc related. We even joke about it (I know, poor taste). Early on I told each one that I would be totally honest with them and answer any question. I promised to not keep secrets so they should not worry about the unknown. I hope I'm doing the right thing. We definitely have become more close and loving over the past few months. I'm not afraid to tell them I love them and we hug a lot more now. I go out of my way to 'be' there for them and in return they have been there for me. I guess we can't protect our children from all evil. However, we can use these trials to become better parents and partners. I just wish it was easier.
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Janetanned-- Thanks, for the compliment. That's my new do for the time being.
I think what you are doing is great. I also use humor, if I didn't it would just all be too serious. I am sorry you and your siblings had to suffer silently (and your mother) I have never had anyone close to me die, get sick, or had any trauma really. My grandma had BC and I loved her dearly but I was 18 and lived 800 miles away. I remember realizing how special I was to her at the very end of her days. So I never really "got" it till now.
I would want to be involved as much as my mother would let me if it were her. Good for you for breaking the cycle.
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Kite and CharB22 - I have an 8th grader also. We still have a month until we get the results of high school auditions. On Saturday in the car she asked me why I had to get cancer. I told her I was lucky to have gotten sick with something that can be treated and that once I get through all these treatments I will be fine. I do so wish she didn't have to deal with this, though.
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I've just done my first FEC,
Tx was last Thursday afternoon (worked Thursday morning and most of the afternoon)
Took Friday sick leave - was emotionally shattered and tired but no real nausea or anything.
Saturday I felt a little nausea but it was still covered by the Emend and Kytril that I had for Friday/Saturday.
Sunday I was very nauseous and tired because had run out of everything except Maxolon that wasn't covering it.
Monday finally got to my PCP who gave me two days supply of Zofran and once I took that I felt fine.
Tuesday (today) - felt a little nausea this morning but managed a 1.8mile walk, shower, make-up and a trip to the hospital for an initial appt with RO. At home now and feeling fine. Definitely could have worked today if I hadn't taken sick leave.
Tomorrow I am planning on a full work day (7 hours) but from home and Thursday/Friday I am planning on going into the office for full days.
So, if I can now make sure I am covered properly next time for the nausea I will be taking the Friday as sick leave. Monday, and maybe Tuesday I will work from home and then will be back in the office from the Tuesday or Wednesday.
All of that is without factoring in any unforseen stays in hospital due to SEs...
In terms of staying "regular", I took a Coloxyl/Senna tablet every evening from the evening before treatment. Drank about 150mls of prune juice every afternoon and have drunk a lake's worth of water and other fluids before and after treatment. Has kept me non-constipated so far...
regards Jennifer -
Gosh it breaks my heart to read some of your stories.
Fldreamer, I hope you get to florida and feel good for many years. Im betting you will.
Im a florida freak myself. I love the Navarre area near Pensacola but anywhere I can snorkle and shell I'd be happy.
I just feel so sad for young Mom's and ladies that live alone. I at least have some help. Now as far as my work, I dont think I can stand all day and do hair in my little beauty shop. I actually applied for temporary disability but not counting on it. Thats the probalem with being self employed, there is no sick leave. I have done hair for 30+ years, paid taxes but disability is hard to get.
Stay strong ladies!! You are in my daily prayers. most of us have made it through first treament. Before we know it, we will be finished and celebrating. May there be joy in the journey!!
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Hi all,
Well I am day 18 after first FEC infusion, and I have to say it hasd been pretty hard.
My biggest SE has been mouth ulcers and associated sore mouth.
Nysea the first few days I took Maxalon but it did'nt work so went to the next level and took Stemital which has been fine .
Mouth ulcers were really bad. had to see GP who gave me 2,000mg amoxil last weeek and rang onc and she told me to rinse my my mouth with asprin .Both of those helped alot. Lost 5 kilos that week, only on water and icepoles
. Still have sore mouth , teeth, gums, tongue etc, but bearable , must be because have managed to put on 3 kilos this week!! Have found having yogurt ( which I had not been having before ) before and after every meal and rinsing my mouth out with water and bicarb to be really helpful in calming things down.
Depression hasd been pretty bad but on Cymbalta for that so just have to keep putting one foot in front of the other. I go to the pool everyday and do water classes which has been a great outlet at the moment .
For those with Fibromyalgia which I have ,as my Rhuemy said the steriods really do dampen down the joint and muscle pain. Normally i take Plaquenil and mobic, but have stopped them while on chemo.
Then on day 16 the really bad stuff.... hair falling out!!! I must say that although I knew it was going to happen and I was all prepared, have the wig, scarves etc etc and I had had it cut really short when It came away in my hands after a shower I just bawled my eyes out!!! It was a terrible feeling and 2 days later I feel the same. Its not like my hair was long or beautiful or anything its just that it was mine and there goes another thing out of my life, first boob now hair . I feel like I have a sign on my forehead " Cancer" Stupid I know, but that's how I feel. Got it all shaved off yesterday, even had that bit organised ... Family, friends all saying don't worry it will grow back ( when?, how about tomorrow!!) etc etc, don't care, want to throw a tantrum and say its not BL@@dy fair.. life sucks... there thats me done... sorry for dumping,, maybe when I read this back I will be able to laugh at myself for being such a ninny.. and for those to get to this stage yet take no notice of me ,its like they say .. its doable... yep, but its hard... waiting now to see what infusion 2 brings next weeek
.'By the way very hot and sunny here in Melbourne Australia..no hair to catch the drips off my head though, god this is weird
Lynne
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hotlyn - The hair loss is hard. Dump away - there are no ninnies here. It's all what we're dealing with and we completely understand. I'm glad I don't have to deal with a wig in the summertime... but dang, it is COLD without hair up here across the planet!
FLDreamer and Rai - Welcome. You've found a good group of women to follow. Like everyone else said, we all seem to have our own timetable for reactions. I tend to be tired on days 2, 3 and 4, at least so far - I'm on T(axotere)-A-C.
I'm sending hugs to everyone. I've been laying sort of low and just counting my blessings because I'm doing okay. I think I'm past the low immunity period, or at least on the tail end, so hopefully no ER trips like last tx. I was more tired this time around, and I assume I'll start getting whacked hard after #3.
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I read somewhere else about using fake tattoos is the form of butterflies. Kind of a new beginning. I think I might get some to try when my hair goes. my (college age) kids would get a kick out of it. Nothing wild maybe something pretty behind my eat. Anyone tried unusual things?
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AnnStAug - Nothing unusual yet. For me, just wearing the wig is a blast. I always wanted to be a redhead, so the chestnut/redhighlight wig is a great way to try it out. I say definitely go for the tattoo. I've actually always wanted to try henna - maybe a delicate chain around my jawline would be cool.
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PCBarbie - By the way, thanks for the tip on the cotton gloves. My finger tips are much better.
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My first chemo treatment was January 12, 2012. It is now 4 days later and I am starting to feel like myself again. My treatments are every other week -4x, then weekly-12x. I am already dreading this since my life pre-BC was so active. I just can't seem to accept this so easily, although I can put up the front that I do.
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Hugs to you RC1221,
I know many of us are struggling with having felt so healthy and active and then having to allow people to make us sick :-(
Regards Jenn
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