January 2012 chemo

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  • Gayle56
    Gayle56 Member Posts: 277
    edited January 2012

    Diane what are the odds? I am not the only one doing this on my bday.

    Joyce Where are you getting your wig from? I am in Nyc also.

  • CJRT
    CJRT Member Posts: 524
    edited January 2012

    Kite- Emend is an anti-nausea medication that comes in a 3-day pack (one pill the morning of chemo, and one for the two following days). It's expensive, but I have heard amazing things about it. My treatment center gives it universally, but I think it varies based on your oncologist. Aloxi is the standard one given on chemo day in the IV prior to the treatment. From what the chemo nurses told me, it's supposed to last as long as 3 days.  However, I was told to start taking my prn ones as soon as the night of chemo or following morning.  My oncologist also recommended Florastar priobiotic tablets, which you can get OTC at most pharmacies, to deal with heartburn, constipation, or diarrhea.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited January 2012

    Cat - so sorry for what happened, and hope you feel better soon.

    Had my port placed today.  Thank goodness - it took the longest time (and a shot of lidocaine) just to get my IV started, I can't imagine trying to go through this for treatment.  Had to have a pregnancy blood test prior, and they stabbed me twice trying to get blood.  This port will make things so much easier.

    And, because local doesn't seem to work with me I had a general anesthesia.  Been sleeping all afternoon/evening.  Really sore and tender, but feeling good.  Know that'll go away in a couple of days.  Was hoping to get to the gym tomorrow but don't see that happening.  Frown

    Chemo school tomorrow, then first treatment set for the 19th.  I'm in a clinical trial (just made it in under the wire, as they closed the trial to new admits a day after I was enrolled) so I know I'll be doing dose-dense AC x 4, then either 12 x Taxol weekly, or 6 x Taxol every two weeks, depending on how I'm randomized.  

    At least now, with port placement, I feel like I'm moving forward and making progress.  Thanks to everyone who has been sharing their experiences, too - it is so helpful in preparing for this journey.  Love and blessings to you all (and tea, yes, we all need to have tea together!!)  

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited January 2012

    I had firsy chemo today, I have diarrhea, dr says its not due to chemo. dont know what to do

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited January 2012

    BelaT: my MO told me before my first TC treatment that I would either have diarrhea or constipation, either one, but she couldn't predict either way, each woman is different. I had diarrhea. She said to take Immodium for it. And to stay hydrated. I drink a lot of water, can't stand Gatorade.

  • Kite
    Kite Member Posts: 265
    edited January 2012

    Well I diffently have the diarerrah. I've never felt such cramps in my life. I am glad to know its not just me. Im thinking it's the nausea meds. I'm also super flushed.

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited January 2012

    I had my first FEC yesterday. Today my whole system from mouth down felt raw so I took some advice I read on here somewhere and swirled a teaspoon of good olive oil around my mouth and swallowed it. I've felt much better and no crampy feeling since...



    regards and good luck Jenn

  • avaross09
    avaross09 Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2012

    I have my sessions scheduled this month, a little worried but have to undergo...

  • JoyceNYC
    JoyceNYC Member Posts: 88
    edited January 2012

    What a terrible day/night!  Excruciating bone pain -- I couldn't sit down, couldn't lay flat, could only toss and turn uncomfortable from side to side from 3pm to 3am.  Tylenol did nothing to help -- anyone have suggestions?  I see onc at 10:30am for regularly scheduled blood work so I'm going to ask for a RX.

     Gayle 56 - My wig is on order from WIGWAM in Westbury (sent there by my insurance) which is near Roosevelt Field Shopping Mall.  I'm day 8 of cycle 1 so I hope it arrives soon.

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2012

    Baking soda and salt rinse:

    (My MO's office gave me a paper on Mouth Care Instructions - info below)

     Mix 1 tsp of salt, 1 tsp baking soda in 16 ounces of room temperature water. Swish and spit 4 times per day, everyday. Do NOT swallow. You can make this rinse in a larger volumen and it will be stable for about 3 weeks.

    Do NOT use mouthwashes with any alcohol content. Cepacol, Act or Tom's of Maine are available over the counter with the least amount of alcohol content.

    Please remember to throw away your toothbruses if you have been diagnosed with any mouth infections.

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2012

    Lumpynme - that ginger gum was nasty, although the taste got better the more I chewed it!

    Catwhisperer - My BS warned me about the lung thing....I hope you're doing better today!!

    I had my port put in on Thursday and as luck would have it, I got my period Wed night. And, can you believe it, the surgical center still made me take a pregnancy test...really? My DH was fixed 10 years and....really???

    My surgeon was delayed so I had to wait another hour before he could put in port. I was not allowed food or drink since midnight prior and then I didn't even get into operating room until after 2pm. I was a mess...cramps, headache from lack of food & caffeine. Ugh.

    First chemo treatment yesterday. That wasn't too bad. So far my only SE is dry mouth. I've been up for 2 hours and have already had a cup of coffee and 2 water bottles!

    Getting my Neulasta shot this afternoon. Took my Claritan last night. I asked one of the nurses if I could take Advil instead of Tylenol since Tylenol does nothing for me, and she said yes. She said they tell people Tylenol because so many people can't take Ibuprofen that they just tell everyone Tylenol. I took Advil this morning, too, and my steriod (Dexamethasone).

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited January 2012

    Joyce - I had horrible bone pain too. I fortunately had percocet left over from my BMX and that helped. But, I did find Aleve worked better than Tylenol. Also, the girls on here told me that for my next treatment, take the 24 hour Claritin a day before the Neulasta shot and for 4-5 days afterwards. For some reason, that works.

    I hope you're feeling better today

    I'm also "Joyce"! XO

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited January 2012

    It's 3.30am....



    Nausea woke me at 1am. Not due an Emend or Kytril until 6.30am. Took a maxolon at 10pm. took a ginger tablet and drank some gingerale but no luck with those. Finally checked the max dosage/day for maxolon and worked out based on weight another one would be ok so took it about 10mins ago.



    While in the bathroom have noticed my tongue has got a white coating so looks like a visit to the clinic in the morning for oral thrush is having to happen :-(



    Reached behind myself without thinking yesterday afternoon and my new port felt wrenched (it hurt). Pain has gone but ithe tubing inside me doesn't feel as comfortable anymore. Guess I need to get that checked too :-(



    So ends day 1 after my first FEC. I read everywhere that day 1 was supposed to be good :-(



    Jennt28

  • JoyceNYC
    JoyceNYC Member Posts: 88
    edited January 2012
    Thanks, momof3boys (nice to find another "Joyce"), I was able to get a RX for percoset at the onc this morning -- but I also bought claritin while I was out and it seems to be giving me some relief (I'd rather not take a narcotic if I can avoid it).  I asked the onc if she knew about claritin giving relief and she said she never heard of it.  I actually could lay down comfortably for 2 hours with the claritin.  Let's spread the word - it seems to work.
  • Nico1012
    Nico1012 Member Posts: 1,492
    edited January 2012

    JoyceNYC ~ I swear by the Claritin! The first few shots I took nothing and thought the bone pain was possibly the worst pain I had ever felt. Started taking Claritin several hours before the shot and for 3 days after and I never had the bone pain again. A pharmicist told me that it works because an allergic reaction is quite common with Neulasta type drugs and because Claritin is an antihistamine, the allergic reaction is far less. Also, it's important to take Claritin and NOT ClaritinD. For the routine aches and pains from Chemo, I used Aleve and it worked better than any other OTC med. Perhaps because it is an anti-iflammatory drug? Everyone reacts differently to all of these meds. What works for one of us may not work for someone else, but it's worth trying if it has a chance of relieving some of the chemo se's!

    Nico

  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited January 2012

    Gayle56 -  Guess were just lucky huh.  (:  Havn't gotten my herceptin approvel yet so I hope I will actually be able to start on Tuesday.  The waiting is killing me!!!  Let get this party started

  • JoyceNYC
    JoyceNYC Member Posts: 88
    edited January 2012

    Nico, it's amazing what the Claritin did -- I could barely move before I took it.  What the pharmicist told you makes sense to me -- but why don't the onc know about it?  Thanks again for the info -- that's what this group is great for!

  • Gayle56
    Gayle56 Member Posts: 277
    edited January 2012

    Joyce NYC  Sorry you aren't feeling well.  The more I read about that Neulasta shot I am grateful I am not getting it on my first round.  I really can't take Claritin because it isn't good if you have high blood pressure.  I guess I need to get a prescription when I see my MO on tuesday for a wig in case I need it. 

     Diane  Hope you get your approval.

     My drs. office called today and wanted to make my appt later in the week.  I said no, I am set for Tuesday and that is when it will be.  I have a feeling it may take longer than anticipated so I will bring plenty of readingmaterial.

  • JoyceNYC
    JoyceNYC Member Posts: 88
    edited January 2012

    Gayle56: My first treatment lasted almost 4 hours between blood tests and the pre-meds and then the chemo.  I was glad for the company of a breast cancer survivor friend who has been there for me every step of the way.  Will you be able to bring someone with you to the chemo?

  • Kite
    Kite Member Posts: 265
    edited January 2012

    Bone aches are no joke! Mine are all in my legs. Does the anti nauesa medicine make anyone else feel foggy?

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2012
    Kite - I am feeling a little foggy with the anti-naseau med. I wasn't sure if it was from the Neulasta shot today - 1st time. I'd rather be foggy than nauseaus!
  • Gayle56
    Gayle56 Member Posts: 277
    edited January 2012

    JoyceNYC - My husband is coming to keep me company.  The dr. said to figure about 4 hours from start to finish.  My sister usually comes with me but sheis working that day.

  • jampus
    jampus Member Posts: 25
    edited January 2012

    hi everyone, I would like to join the January 2012 chemo group. I had my first dose (T/C) on the 12th. So far so good, am feeling tired but otherwise okay. I had the neulasta shot yesterday and am hoping to not have all the pain I see appears to come with the territory.

    I have a PICC line in (double lumen) as I just spent a week in hospital getting 3 strong antibiotics 2-3 times daily and I have pretty crappy veins to begin with. So far the lumens have blocked 3 times needing the "draino" to fix them and I was ready for them to take the thing out, but the thought of all those needle sticks again convinced me to keep going with it. When they changed the dressing yesterday they put some heparin in the tubes, we'll see if that helps keep them open longer.

    Anyway, just wanted to say hi, must go to bed now as I have been saying that for the past 3 hrs and it is now 12.45am. So goodnight for now

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited January 2012

    Good morning all!  I am rushing off to my first day of classes but wanted to catch up quickly before I left.  Wow, what a busy week we've all had!  I'm sorry some aren't feeling well, and am sending healing energy your way.

    Port was placed on Thursay - okay, I gotta say to all you ladies out there who do port placement one day and chemo the next, you are goddesses (of course, you're goddesses anyway, but extra-super goddesses for this!)  I could barely move on the day after my port was placed. It's two days post-placement and my chest is swollen, red, and not happy at all.  Both incisions are kinda mean-looking.  I'm so glad I have a week to heal before my first treatment.

    Chemo school yesterday.  I would like to thank everyone here for sharing your experiences because I walked in so educated that the RN asked if I was a nurse.  Smile  I said, "No, but I have good friends."  Information is power, and I felt so empowered before my visit!

    Seeing the infusion room brought tears to my eyes, but sometimes I just have rough days.  The reality of it all is still sinking in.

    I have been randomized into the 6x Taxol part of the clinical trial, which wounds great, but actually means dose-dense Taxol every two weeks.  Not excited about that part.

    More later - hop-skip-jump off to Family Therapeutic Techniques and Policy classes!  Love to you all!

    Nancy

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited January 2012

    NancyHB - It is great when we walk into those chemo sessions ready for (almost) everything. You're in a good place right now. It's okay to get overwhelmed, but I'm sure you'll fly right through your tx. Look at it as 3 or 4 hours of 'you' time - read, listen to music, watch TV, sleep, or bring a friend and chat. I hope your port starts feeling better. I still swear that the port placement was worse than my bmx, possibly because they simply don't prepare you for the pain and discomfort.

    Gayle and Diane - I don't have an actual tx on my bday, but my bday is next week. Wondering where to have my parents take me out for dinner if I can't taste all that much...

    CharB - I was a little more foggy/sluggish after my second tx as well, even before the Neulasta.

    Welcome Jampus. Definitely try the Claritin if you haven't already. It seems to make a big difference with Neulasta. Wishing you minimal SEs this weekend. If you're on the 2-week plan, we'll probably have our next tx the same day (26th). I'm every three weeks.

    JoyceNYC - Glad the Claritin did the trick. From what I've heard, the Neulasta hurts because it forces more production of white blood cells - which is made in bone marrow, so the bone ends swell. Claritin somehow must alleve some of that swelling. Hoping they come up with some definitive research soon so it becomes standard treatment, rather than through the BC grapevine.

    JennT - Sorry about the nausea and the port discomfort. I've found the tubing occasionally annoying. And I have a stitch that seems to be sticking out, but they're leaving it for now.  

    Slept late again.... I'm not sure if I'm taking advantage of chemo or not, but it's been nice to wake up at 8, look at the clock, and say 'I need my rest' and fall asleep again for another hour or two. My taste is still back and forth. I haven't tried the baking soda mix yet - I've been sticking with olive oil and biotine. I think what set my taste buds on a destruction course was last weekend when I got nervous about a slightly sore throat. My rather unusual remedy is to gargle vodka... I should have realized it would be a bad idea, but I was more concerned about strep at the time. So, I took a swig and started gargling - and the burning was horrible. I spit it out right away, but the damage might have been done. But... my throat felt better.

    The only other SE I'm watching now was some tingling in my left palm Thursday night, Friday morning and once during the show last night (Pirates of Penazance). I called my onc nurse and she said just to monitor it for now and discuss it before my next tx in case they need to modify my dose. Neuropathy is the biggest thing I'm worried about (violin playing and fencing), which is why I was put on taxotere, not taxol.

    Hoping everyone has a good weekend, with minimal SEs.

  • Kite
    Kite Member Posts: 265
    edited January 2012

    Does anyone else have a raging headache? I really feel weird. My stomach hurts so bad and I can barely eat anything. Even taking my medicince makes my stomach hurt. I feel all foggy and confused. I've been in tears off and on all day. I hope this isn't my experiece everytime.

  • PCBarbie66
    PCBarbie66 Member Posts: 84
    edited January 2012

    Kite ~I wish all our Side effects were the same, then we would all have the same handbook, and I could just read the answers to you. I fought the migraines only those first three days after my first Chemo session but your Chemo cocktail is different then mine.  Mine I attributed to the Steroids/Nausea medicine...on the fourth day I was done with that medicine, had no nausea and no more Migraine.I'm sorry your having such a hard time.

    I tried that Olive oil yesterday...and my mouth actually feels better today..I'm not sure if this side effect was gonna get better or it was the Olive Oil...I used it again today just to be safe...still feels better...and I will continue to use it from here on out.  My tongue had gotten so bad Lettuce felt like razor blades!! 

    Does anyone here have Psoriasis besides me? Chemo is supposed to stop the Psoriasis only while on Chemo, and then it is gonna come back when I'm done...after this first session I noticed this happening, actually started getting better and is 75% gone, after 12 years it is finally going away, was one of the few things I had to look forward too...but on day 8 after Chemo, it stopped getting better...wonder if I metabolized the Chemo already??  Just a weird observation.

  • Layla2525
    Layla2525 Member Posts: 827
    edited January 2012

    Does everyone have to get chemo? Does anyone take an oral chemo drug? Is the chemo pushed on you? I want to make my own decision. I am not sure I want chemo thats why I am doing the bmx even tho there is only a tiny IDC in one breast. The biopsy on the other breast came back benign but I dont wanna go thru this again I wanna try and get past all this.

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited January 2012

    PCBarbie

    Funny you mentioned Psoriasis...my husbands grandmother suffered from it terribly! When she was in her late 70's a new doctor had her go to a tanning bed every week and that helped, ALSO, he prescribed some type of chemotherapy! I remember thinking at the time (I was in my mid twenties) what? She doesn't have cancer, how can that be? But, it helped her immensely. I have no idea what it was (the chemo).

    Layla2525: once you get further along.... After the BMX and they check your nodes and do Oncotype testing, a medical oncologist will counsel you with options and recommendations. I actually met with my oncologist before surgery so she and the surgeon coordinated things (like pathology testing, Oncotype testing).

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited January 2012

    Kite- are you checking your temperature? I hope you're feeling better. Don't hesitate to call your MO!

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