DCIS near chest wall?

Lisa75
Lisa75 Member Posts: 137

I thought DCIS was only in the milk ducts. I got my MRI results and they mentioned a spot near the chest wall.

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  • fitzdc
    fitzdc Member Posts: 1,467
    edited January 2012

    Yes, I was diagnosed with DCIS near the chest wall; was told it was not  unusual.

    Teresa

  • Lisa75
    Lisa75 Member Posts: 137
    edited January 2012
    I guess I fear being told I need a Mastectomy....the original diagnosis was just for Lumpectomy. the thought of losing my breast...Frown
  • fitzdc
    fitzdc Member Posts: 1,467
    edited January 2012

    I know, I know.   I had the option of either and decided on a mastectomy (BS leaned heavily toward the mastectomy but no one can tell you you have to have it - it is your decision)  1) no additional worries about 'did they get it all?' 2) the DCIS was spread over a large area 3) did not want radiation which would follow a lumpectomy 4) BS told me that  there was a chance the lumpectomy would be followd by a mastectomy 5) reconstruction concerns after possible breast scaring from radiation.  Hindsight showed I did make the right decision as IDC was found in addition to te DCIS

    Yes, the decision to lose a breast was huge.  I try to be positve and think instead of it in another light - not losing a breast, but gaining additional healthy years. But the tears do come - people here have been very supportive- when the reality hits.

    Teresa

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited January 2012

    Lisa, I had DCIS near the chest wall too. It's not unusual.

    Think of your breast as being like a bowl, and inside is spaghetti - well actually, bucatini, which is hollow spaghetti - and sauce.  The bucatini are the milk ducts and the sauce is the breast tissue. Anything that is in the middle of the hollow bucatini isn't going to be 'escaping' from the bowl but the bucatini does spread over the whole bowl and is right up against the sides and bottom of the bowl - just like the milk ducts in a breast.  A bit of a strange example but it should give you the idea.

    I had a lot of DCIS in a small breast so I'm another who had no choice but to have a mastectomy. I didn't like the idea much either but when there's no choice, you do what you have to do, you get through it, and you move on with your life.  The good news is that with DCIS, you are able to move on with your life with no concern that the cancer that's already been removed might still be able to come back to harm you in the form of a distant recurrence (i.e. mets).  Even for me, with a tiny microinvasion of IDC in addition to the DCIS, I have very little risk and I'm grateful for that.  So that's what I focus on. 

  • Lisa75
    Lisa75 Member Posts: 137
    edited January 2012

    LOL. like the spaghetti reference. I think I saw a cookie one in another thread. Laughing I guess I will wait for my call...and then have a choice to make.

  • CTMOM1234
    CTMOM1234 Member Posts: 633
    edited January 2012

    Nice pasta visual! My dcis was near the chest wall.

  • Lisa75
    Lisa75 Member Posts: 137
    edited January 2012
    Well, I called my Dr back with some questions on the size of the areas. When she initally called me, I was at work. a nurse called me back and explained my 1st area was actually 17mm, and this 2nd area is 2cm.
    I'm still hoping for just a lumpectomy. waiting for the surgeon to call me back.
  • lbarbados
    lbarbados Member Posts: 152
    edited January 2012

    Hi,

    I also had DCIS very close to the chest wall, confirmed by biopsy.  My MRI showed several suspect areas closer to the nipple, so I opted for a unilateral MX.  My final pathology showed I only had the one spot near the chest wall, the rest was normal, so I could have opted for a lumpectomy.  MRI can sometimes show "false positives", so the only way to be sure is to biopsy any suspicious areas.  

    I don't regret my decision, however... best wishes and I hope you get some good news!

  • TJP1071
    TJP1071 Member Posts: 66
    edited January 2012


    I am waiting to see the surgeon...goin on Jan. 18th.  Had 2 spots done with sterotactic biopsy...both came back DCIS.  My only issue is that one area was near the nipple and another was near the chest wall. Same quadrant though.   I am worried that they missed some in the dense tissue.  Probably heading for an MRI. 

    I understand the thought of losing the breast!  OMG I can think of nothing else at this point! It's a haze!

    The spag......great reference!  I keep telling my mom who has more understanding of heart issues that it is like clogging the arteries!  LOL  It is something she can understand.  

    Waiting is the worst.   It makes you think too much!  Hope you hear good news!

     

  • Lisa75
    Lisa75 Member Posts: 137
    edited January 2012
    Well, after another sonogram today - I was advised the DCIS is in the duct from the chest wall to the nipple. I guess a lumpectomy is no longer an option. FrownFrown
  • tricia7
    tricia7 Member Posts: 6
    edited January 2012

    So Sorry Lisa.  I am 8 months ahead of you in the journey.  It's sad and terrible, but you will endure and make it through.  Be good to yourself, take the time to heal and 'just keep swimming' (Finding Nemo).  I had bilateral mastectomy for extensive DCIS in both breasts (they found a small area of invasion), tissue expanders and reconstruction a month ago with implants.  I cannot believe that I have come this far, am in one piece!  As another member said - 'I want to grow up to be an old woman'.  You will!!  Best advice I got for MX surgery - get men's muscle shirts to wear afterwards (accomodates the drains), sleep in a recliner with small pillows under each arm. REST!!  You will get through this!! xoxo

  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 1,138
    edited January 2012

    Lisa, I am sorry, I too have traveled your path, beginning 2 years ago, adn I ended up losing both breasts. I cried probably up until my day of surgery, and I even began antidepressents just to "get a grip" and calm down.

    My cancer was multifocal, which means many places, so I did not have a choice either.

    There are so many people on these boards to help you during this crappy journey, and I do promise you will laugh again and feel good again....

  • CTMOM1234
    CTMOM1234 Member Posts: 633
    edited January 2012

    Lisa, I am sorry. BC sucks! Stay with the women on these boards, we will cry and laugh with you . . .These boards kept me sane during the insanity, and you will return the favor by helping others through this when you are through it -- you will get through it.

  • Lisa75
    Lisa75 Member Posts: 137
    edited January 2012

    tricia7  - I was searching on reconstruction options and wondered about the tissue expanders. I think I can get 2 weeks off work.....and from I'm reading the perm implants are exchanged 4 months out? Is there more recovery for that part?
    As sad as it is to loose a boob, I worry about time needed off work.(gotta have the job, to have the insurance...sigh)

    I don't feel my boss or coworkers need to know my health status. I dont want to explain or even answer the possible questions I'd get.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited January 2012

    Lisa, I had an expander.  And like you I told very few people about what I was going through.  So I understand your desire to go through this in a way that is the least noticeable to those that you work with. 

    The amount of time between the initial placement of the expander (often done during the mastectomy surgery) and the exchange surgery depends on a few things:

    - How large do you want to be?  The larger you go, the more that the expander needs to be filled and the longer it may take to fill the expander.

    - How much is the PS able to put into the expander during the first surgery?  If you have a skin sparing mastectomy and your skin is flexible, you might start out with a big fill that's done during surgery.  Or if your skin is tight and/or the PS is very cautious/conservative, you might not have any fill during the first surgery.

    -  How often will you get fills and how large will each fill be?  The more frequent the fills and the larger each fill, the more pain/discomfort you will feel.  Some PSs like to do it quickly and initially that's what most patients want, because it means that the whole thing will be over more quickly. However those are the women who often experience pain during the whole process. Lots of PSs prefer the slow approach. My PS did fills every two weeks and each fill was smalll - as she injected the liquid, she asked me to tell her as soon as I could feel some pressure.  She stopped the fill at that point.  So I got through the process with virtually no pain, but it took longer.  If you are trying to get this done with no one at working noticing, the slow approach is probably better for you because you are less likely to have pain and/or need to take time off work because of pain.

    - How long will your PS wait after completing the fills before doing the exchange?  There are two schools of thought on this.  Some PSs do the exchange very soon after filling the expander.  My PS, and many others, insist on a waiting period.  This is so that your skin and muscle adjust to the expanded state - the theory is that this should provide a better result over the long term because the skin and muscle will have a pocket that is ready to accept the implant and will be less likely to contract back and squeeze the implant. My PS insists on 3 months between the last fill and the exchange; this seems to be about the norm for those PS who follow this approach.

    I was filled to a relatively small "B" cup.  My time from mastectomy surgery to exchange was 6 1/2 months.  From other women on this board, I've seen time frames from as little as 2 months to as much as 18 months.  Once the fills are done, there is no rush to do the exchange so one option for you is to delay the exchange until a time when you are able to be off work for a few days with no one noticing. 

    When I had the exchange, I felt great right from the start.  I was warned by my PS however that I needed to restrict arm/upper body movement for 6 weeks.  This is because incisions don't fully heal for about that amount of time and you risk damaging either the internal or external incisions if you do too much activity (or the wrong activity) too soon.  Still, my exchange surgery was day surgery and I was fully up and around by later that day.  You just need to be careful and thoughtful in what you do for the next few weeks.  Of course, not all of us react the same and there are some women who have a more difficult time with the exchange surgery but as a general rule, the exchange surgery is pretty easy.

    Hope that helps. 

  • Lisa75
    Lisa75 Member Posts: 137
    edited January 2012

    Thanks Beesie =D I'm a "B" cup as well. I have a desk job, and am right handed (left breast has the issue), so i should be ok I think. Only thing is I tend to use the left shoulder to carry my purse, and groceries with keys in the right hand...so leaving that side more lightweight for awhile will be a challenge. I wish there was a way to just take out the duct...I view it like a straw...

  • koffman51
    koffman51 Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2012

    My DCIS was also near the chest wall......I am four months out of six weeks of radiation and five boosts......was told over and over again about the possibility of rib fx......again...that was four months ago......I live in Micigan and have been shoveling snow.......the oncologists know exactly how much we can handle......great technology......digital pictures are great.....My first lumpectomy didn't go so great......margins were not clear.....opted for a second lumpectomy.....and six weeks of radiation....

    No chest wall or rib fractures...............

    But...............there still is alot of snow!

  • ZTeam
    ZTeam Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2012

    Hi Lisa,

    I had 9 cm of DCIS, 0.1 mm from my chest wall on my left side. It extended all the way to my nipple and I had Paget's cancer of the nipple. I had a BMX.

    BTW, I'm also a Lisa from 1975. We're a good vintage and we've got lots of good years left!

    Take care,

    Lisa 

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