January 2012 chemo

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  • Laura5133388
    Laura5133388 Member Posts: 577
    edited January 2012
    DianeNMil, Have you considered using cold caps for your hair?
  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2012

    Went to the wig shop this afternoon since I start chemo on Thurs. (port going in Wed) and the owner said that my hair is too thick and too long to try a wig now. So I need to get a short cut first. Ugh.

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited January 2012

    CharB22 - Did you see any styles you liked?  I was overwhelmed when I first went.  I had no clue what I wanted.  Fortunately, the wig lady was very patient and I narrowed my choices to a few.  While I was able to try them on, I did feel like I should cut my hair short before making my final choice.  I found that my head is large and not all wigs will fit.  This narrowed my selection.  I finally went in today to pick up the one I chose.

    Have you checked to see if your insurance co will pay for any or all of it?  If you call your ins co, make sure you refer to it as a cranial prostheses, not a wig.  My co will pay up to 100%.  The want a 'procedue code' from a prescription before they can tell me my coverage.

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited January 2012

    CharB22 - It looks like we will be having the same treatment 4 of AC and 4 of Taxol.  I take my steroids during treatment.  I think they gave me 3 pills right before the infusion and I took 2 today and will have 2 tomorrow.  I forget the name,  It starts with dex. I'm too lazy to go look right now.

    You will be pleased with the port I think.  As long as there is no infection, it makes the whole process easier I think.  There was virtually no pain associated with it other than the soreness from its placement.  Mine was put in on Wednesday and I used it Friday.  No problems so far.

  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited January 2012

    Laura5

    I actually just asked a onc yesterday what he thought of cc and he brought up the whole chemo does not penetrate your scalp then theory.  then their is the cost.

    Set up appoint to do short haircut...first in my life...yikes

    does anyone feel like what they are going through is kinda surreal?

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited January 2012

    DianeNMil - It's all surreal, to be honest.  Every time "something" happens I am reminded that I have breast cancer - sometimes, I kinda forget.  Then something intrudes on my denial, er, forgetting, and I'm right back to asking "How the hell did I get here?"

    Like buying a wig.  There are only two local places and both are "beauty suppy" stores with wig sections in the back.  They're behind swinging doors - kinda reminds me of the old "adult only" section of the video rental stores.  Prices ranged from $20 to $300.  I hated the first place - just felt funny, and the clerk was actually rude.  Second place allowed me to try on only three choices, and I fell in love with the first one and bought it.  $20.  I was told to buy a $20 wig because I'll end up hating it and refusing to wear it at some point, so why spend the money?   I love the style - except that it looks like a dang wig.  So Monday I call my insurance company to check on how much they'll cover (then there's the question of how does this get paid for?  Do I pay for it first and get reimbursed, or will a reputable wig salon "take" my insurance card?).  I want to go to a salon that will, well, spoil me a little and cater to me.  And treat me like the cancer patient I am.

    Does that sound awful?  

    The haircut was both horrible and beautiful.  I hated doing it because I knew I would be losing my hair anyway, but I loved having the control over doing it. Having a short cut will limit the shock and awe when it starts to fall out.  I am hoping I have shed my last tear over my hair, but probably not. 

    Bone scan and EKG on Monday; think good thoughts for me, please, because I'm terrified they'll find something on the bone scan and I just cannot take anymore surprises or bad news.  Then port placement on Thursday and chemo school on Friday.  

    I learned an interesting side-note:  steroids are given with Adramyacin because it's made from conifers, and many people have allergic reactions to conifers.  My DS suggested I simply drink more Tanqueray, which is made from juniper - a conifer.  He might be on to something.  Smile

    Sorry for my ramblings - hard day here.  Love to you all, and g'night.

    Nancy

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited January 2012

    Nancy, good luck for the scans on Monday! And you've given me another thing to add to my medicine shopping list..



    "Must but Tanqueray and drink religiously"



    ;-)



    Jenn

  • NCbeachgal
    NCbeachgal Member Posts: 181
    edited January 2012

    NancyHB

    I too wish I could say I've cried the last tear over my hair. I know I haven't though. I start my treatments Tuesday. I plan to get my hair cut one evening this week. For some reason I imagine I will feel bad about still having hair at my first treatment. I would like to have it cut before Tuesday but can't get an appointment until Wednesday or later. I dread it all. An aquaintence asked me the other day when we we talking about the side effects of chemo, "well, do you like your hair? I mean, is it that important to you?" my answer..."well yeah, it's framed my face for 45 years and yep I like it." what a stupid question.

  • PCBarbie66
    PCBarbie66 Member Posts: 84
    edited January 2012

    Well I got the best pixie I could get with my thick hair...I think Sonya (step Mother) enjoyed cutting it a bit to much...she hated it was so long and thick and hers is thin, short and she has to tease it.  I always wanted to try a shorter hair cut...and boy my hair was really curley when it became short...only in the back and sides, the front remains straightish and bushy...I noticed that the lady's in the Waiting areas at Chemo that had severe parts thinned there right away, so I went for  one I can swish around and hide some stuff...maybe an extra week or so with some hair...helped with the night sweats too...first time last night my hair wasn't soaked!!  Day four (Sunday) and so far so good...no big SE's yet...and other than the lower back pain from the original Chemo session, I have no additional side effects from the Naulasta shot on Friday, was irratable and snappy, but I think that was the unknown after shot....really thought I'd be the bone pain candidate, nope never happened.  Ist day off Steriods, still feel good no nausua yet...I enjoyed the hair cut...made an adventure out of it...why not just have fun with it and relax...I was sad last week when shopping for hats...but I am happy now that I took control of it.:)

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2012

    Janetanned - I did look around the store, but the lady there didn't seem like she wanted to bother with me. She just told me to get my haircut first then come back. She didn't offer to show me anything. I'm a little annoyed because I had heard so many good things about this wig shop. I'm not sure if I want to go back there.

    Where did you get your wig? I'm just over the bridge in NJ and I work in Philly.

    My "cranial prothesis" is not covered. I checked (I work for BC/BS which really stinks that they can't cover it for one of the own associates!). However, if I lived in DE, it would be covered - state mandate. Maybe I should start writing to Christie to see if NJ can mandate it the way DE does. It should at least be covered under "mental health." But I can't complain much, I've had to pay very little so far and my chemo and raditation is covered at 100%.

    Glad to hear you had a good experience with the port. My BS is putting mine in and he's excellent, so I think/hope I'll be fine. Still....ick....

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2012

    DianeNMil and NancyHB - It definitely feels surreal for me - because I haven't started my treatments yet, I look fine. My DH and I were at a huge dinner for my FIL's 79th bday (big italian family, so 40 people - immediate family - LOL.) Anyway, everyone kept asking me how I was feeling. I started getting really annoyed because I FEEL FINE. I know they meant well. They are wonderful people (overbearing at times) but I wanted to say, stop treating me like there's something seriously wrong with me!

    I'm sure I'll feel differently in a couple of weeks after I have my first treatment under my belt, but I still have a few days to feel "normal" and I want to stay that way!!

    I'm just sooo afraid that once I start my treatments and then have either radiation or DMX (waiting on BRCA tests), I'm going to look sick forever! I have to keep things normal since I have 2 boys (11 & 14) and the last thing I want to do is put them through a ton of crap.

    Sorry for the pity party/rant - my Xanax hasn't kicked in yet and I'm a weepy mess. I have 3 "cancer" appts tomorrow (MUGA scan, 1st appt w/RO and then chemo "education." Not going to be a normal day...ugh....I hate this f*&^ing cancer!

  • Kite
    Kite Member Posts: 265
    edited January 2012

    Char--



    I understand how you feel. I have a large community of friends who are constantly asking me too. Followed by "you look so good!" I wanna say "yeah cause the poison hasn't started yet." They do mean well, but it does get old.



    I have 3 apps next week too. Monday is the onc appt, tues radiation onc, and thurs port placement. Have you decided to to radiation? I'm having trouble deciding cause I fall in the grey area. I had a BMX in Dec. My children are still very young so the reality of this isnt aware to them. It makes healing little harder but I can spare them the emotional stuff.

  • Shell-Seeker
    Shell-Seeker Member Posts: 49
    edited January 2012

    Well Im day three after first chemo. I had it Friday so its been nearly 48 hours.

    They said SE would begin today.

    I dont feel bad yet. I do feel a little weaker that yesterday and tummy feels slightly wierd but nothing to really complain about. I basically feel normal. The nurse said chemo is accumalitive and se's would increase with each treatment. Im glad everyone is doing good so far.

    We all sound like were on the same track.

    Lets hope the track stays smooth.

    I didnt go to church today, Im getting kind of wierd feeling around crowds. Its so fuuny because one of the ladies here said she was beginnging to feel like the OCD character Monk and thats exactly what I was thinking. I was not even slightly germ phobic before all this. Now I just want to stay clear of crowds. Hopefully this will pass with time and experience.

    Well I will let you all know if I get sick. I do think I will go for a good walk at the lake today.

    We have had a beautiful warm Winter here in Arkansas this year which Im so thankful because its usually cold and icey.

    God Bless Everyone.

  • Shell-Seeker
    Shell-Seeker Member Posts: 49
    edited January 2012

    By the way, For you Facebookers Im Rhonda Harrison Cole and I have been putting some head scarf ideas on my page. I have some BC friends on my page. Im thinking we should start on own page so as not to irritate my other friends but so far all my church friends want to see it all too.

    Anyway, feel free to add me if you'd like.

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2012
    Kite - I'm waiting on the BRCA results. If they're positive, I'll get DBMX then radiation won't be needed because I had no node involvement. If BRCA is negative then radiation is the plan. I think I'd rather have the BRCA be positive - then at least I'd know what caused the BC.
  • Mimidi
    Mimidi Member Posts: 231
    edited January 2012

    My thoughts and prayers are with all of you.  I started my chemo January, 2011 and finished in June.  It is doable and you will survive. I had a port and it made the chemo so much easier.

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited January 2012

    Rhonda,

    I took a look at your FB page.  I LOVE all the prints and ways to tye scarves. So creative which I am not.

    I start chemo tomiorrow and have a few sleeping caps and 2 scarves that are pre tied. I think I need some longer ones like in your pics. Thank you so very much for offering to share. Very helpful.

    Have a great time on your walk and enjoy the weather while you can...Smile

  • Kite
    Kite Member Posts: 265
    edited January 2012

    Char-I am waiting on my Brca test too. I had 3 tumors all under 2cm so they wanted at least the breast removed with the cancer. I opted for a double just to be done with it. I really don't want radiation if it's not necessary.

  • Kite
    Kite Member Posts: 265
    edited January 2012

    Char-I am waiting on my Brca test too. I had 3 tumors all under 2cm so they wanted at least the breast removed with the cancer. I opted for a double just to be done with it. I really don't want radiation if it's not necessary.

  • NCbeachgal
    NCbeachgal Member Posts: 181
    edited January 2012

    Mimidi,

    Thanks for the encouragement!

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2012

    Is it a good idea to exercise during chemo? I was going to the gym 2 times/week and riding an exercise bike in the summer and sporadically in the fall, but walking 10-15 minutes every day. I'm thinking about getting an exercise bike for my home since I probably won't be going in to work much during treatment and my gym is at my work. (I'm going to work from home to stay away from germy public transportation in the city).

    Is this a good idea?

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited January 2012

    Hi Char

    My MO told me that it is advantageous to exercise and Not gain weight during chemo...better outcome. I'm trying as much as my energy allows. I've been getting out for 15, 30, minutes walks, since the weather has been so weirdly warm here for January in PA. I have a treadmill, but hate it.,

    Strangely, my weight has remained the same since day before surgery, so that's good.

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited January 2012

    Rhonda, I added you on FB. Great idea :-)



    Off for two busy days at work before Wed\Thurs crappy stuff.



    I've been out power walking every day since diagnosis and have moved to a low/no starch diet and cut out almost all sugar (except the occasional decadent single chocolate. Ihave managed to shift 17 of the sneaky extra pounds that had crept on over the past 3 years while I've been working full-time and studying part-time. Been trying to get motivated to lose the weight for a while, but it took this...



    regards Jenn

  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited January 2012

    NancyHB -  No that doesn't sound horrible!  We find ourselves in a horrible place of emotional ups and downs that are sometimes beyond our control and we SHOULD have people around us that are sensitive to it.  My first go around....08 DCIS unilateral mast......I was a emotional mess and DRs kept saying the stupidest things to me!  Havnt quite got to that point this time but I havn't started chemo yet.   My Cancer center has a boutique with scarfs and wigs and stuff.  Have you checked the hospital?  Maybe if they do not have anything in house they can recommend somewhere?  Good luck with your scan.......love and prayers coming your way.

    CharB and Kite-  I had to crack up when I read your post about the "how do you feels?"  Someone said to me the other day "you look so good!! "  I haven't started treatment yet so I'm glad she doesnt think I look like shit!  lol.  They do mean well.  I try to educate them instead of getting annoyed but I know it is a little exasperating.

    Echo Tues...hopefully chemo before end of week...want to get this over with!

  • Lumpynme
    Lumpynme Member Posts: 747
    edited January 2012

    NancyHB:

    to quote you ':"but I loved having the control over doing it. Having a short cut will limit the shock and awe when it starts to fall out."

    that's exactly how i feel about cutting my hair first!  

    btw i was born in jackson almost 58 years ao..are you a native?

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited January 2012

    Well, I'm doing okay into Day 4, but I was sluggish and achey this morning. Made it through my rehearsal, but the wig drove me nuts - they're putting the orchestra on the stage instead of the usual pit band area, and I had a spotlight shining on the top of my head the whole time. I had been warned when I got the wig about not wearing it EVER if I cook (a good point to remember - you don't want to open the oven with a wig on; it won't catch fire, but if it's synthetic, it might start to melt...) and I kept checking to make sure it wasn't too hot. I'm feeling a little 'off' but so far haven't had any really bad SEs. I'm starting to suspect that my taste is getting ready to abandon me, though, but it's threatened before and stayed around, so who knows?

    As for exercise, I've also heard it's good to get exercise. It helps your mood and energy, and you do want to stay in good shape. I'm wary about using a public gym, but as long as I keep my hand sanitizer, I would like to start going again (I haven't since surgery). 

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited January 2012

    I think I feel the chemo getting to my scalp- does that sound weird? Day 10 post 1st TC. Haven't lost any hair yet. But have this "tight" and "tinglly" feeling on my scalp. Also, I'm still achey. Anyone else?

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited January 2012

    Yes, that's the start of it. Someone described it like when you pull your hair too tightly into a ponytail. You'll also notice that you'll feel like you're sleeping on steel wool - I think the chemo triggers a change in the texture of your hair. 

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited January 2012

    Lumpynme:  I've lived in Jackson for the last 22 years, but was born and raised in Ann Arbor.  We are part of a wonderful, caring community here through our jobs (mental health care/child welfare) and my husband's temple.  You know how small Jackson is - went to a post-Hannukah latke party today and ran into my BS.  Smile  He didn't recognize me wtih my short hair, so I gave him a hug and said, "Nice to see you again - see you yet again in a few days" (port placement on Thursday).

    DianeNMil:  Thanks for the suggestion.  Our hospital doesn't have any kind of boutique.  I need to actually go out of town for a proper wig salon - Ann Arbor or Lansing - but need to get the damned Rx first.  If my insurance co. won't cover it our HSA should at least reimburse us for it.  And now that my hair is shorter, it'll make it much easier for a fitting.  

    CharB22:  I try to get in some form of exercise every single day.  First, the Adramyacin is going to be hard on my heart.  But before all of this, I was also a runner and a yogi, so I make certain I do something, anything, every day.  On good days (like today) I ran/walked 3 miles.  I'll do my favorite 1.25 hr yoga class tomorrow night.  And on those days when I can't get to the gym I try to walk around the block a couple of times, or even run the laundry up and down the stairs.  Smile  I'm sure this will change and become more difficult when I start treatment.   There is a great thread under the Fitness and Getting Back into Shape forum entitled, "Let's Post Our Daily Exercise" that's really supportive and helpful.

    I'm struggling with the onslaught of "well wishes" and "how are you feeling" questions.  I've actually stopped answering my phone right now - I just can't talk to dozens of people anymore.  I told my DH, DS and DD that anytime they need me, I'm here - but I can't take everyone else right now.  It's hard to be the center of attention.  It's also hard to listen to the "worse-than" stories - "my friend was 28 when she was diagnosed with BC" or "at least it's not ALS" or "you know it's curable and you'll be fine."  Really?  Cuz you're me and you know how this feels? I find solace in talking with other BC survivors because there is no pity, only empathy and kindness.  And no need to "out do" me.

    Sorry - my Xanax has kicked in and isn't doing it's work tonight, so I'm off for a second pill I guess. 

    Good luck to all of you starting treatment this week, and bless those of you who have started.  Thank you for sharing your progress; it is so helpful to know that we are not in this alone; your support is more helpful and loving, and it'll make it easier for all of us, I'm sure.

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited January 2012

    CharB22 - I got my wig at a cute little shop in Media, Delaware County.  Not too close to you.  Its called Lovely You and is owned and operated by a women who worked many years in radiology departments of local hospitals.  She is familiar with the effects of chemo and other hair loss problems.  The shop is small but very comfortable.  She was very helpful and she offered good advice on other issues that come up with chemo.  She has a local hairdresser who can trim your wig to make it look more like your style if needed.  I had my hair trimmed to match my wig instead.

    I still can't get a clear answer to whether or not Blue Cross will cover any cost.  I didn't have the correct procedure code when I called on Friday.  I have a feeling that they won't.  Someone told me about Delaware.  If only PA and NJ followed suite!  It sounds like you work at BC/BS in center city?  My neighbor works there and my daughter's boyfriend is an intern there (Drexel U).

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