January 2012 rads

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  • Sharon1942
    Sharon1942 Member Posts: 272
    edited January 2012

    Rockym & Ossa:  Thanks for the feedback on the timeline of beginning radiation.  It alleviates my fears.  My consultation appt. will be at 6 weeks, then I'm assuming I'll have to have subsequent appts. for the tattooing of the target areas, CT scan, & maybe a simulation appt.  These are all things I've read on the breastcancer.org forums, not anything the radiation oncologist has shared with me yet.  So, it looks like when I do finally start radiation it'll be about 8 weeks from chemo.  I will keep up with the January 2012 rads group, but it looks like I'll need to join a Feb./Mar. rads group because that's when I'll actually be getting rads.

  • AnnAlive
    AnnAlive Member Posts: 450
    edited January 2012

    I'd like to join you ladies. My rads were delayed by TE troubles, but I am moving into a schedule now. I had my simulation with CT scan and markings done today. Film to confirm (and tats I guess) will be Friday of next week, and then I start treatments on Jan 16. I think I am getting 28 + 4 boosts, but it hasn't been mentioned since my first consultation in October, so I guess I'll get confirmation next week.

    I'm caught up on your posts so far, and read the entire December rads thread too. It looks like we'll have to take really good care of our skin to be kind to the burns. I thought I would be getting rads with a TE in, but it was removed due to infection, so now I have a bumpy crater with extra skin bunched up for later reconstruction. My RO says the creases I have can intensify the radiation in those places because of skin against skin.

  • WIMusicMaker
    WIMusicMaker Member Posts: 78
    edited January 2012

    Hi,

    I had my rads mapping today. It was really easy. They took a while to position me on my stomach. They made a mold of my head and arms. FYI the mold gets really warm so don't have on your wool pants and socks! They did a cat scan, marked my body, put 5 tatoos on my back and a piece of tape on my breast. I was most worried about the tatoos hurting and they didn't! I do have to keep a piece of tape on my breast for the duration and that seems like it might be a pain. I was given a special cream that I am supposed to start using today. It is called Restore.

    I will not be starting until January 25 partly to enable me to recover from my last chemo and because my doctor is leaving. She is trying to get all the initial planning and appointments in for all the patients she started.

    I have been off of work since my surgery, I am a teacher, and I will be going back part time on January 23 and I CAN'T WAIT!!! I am a band director and I will get to see all of my 7th and 8th graders. I miss then so much! 

    Good luck to everyone! Mary 

  • Lucille3361
    Lucille3361 Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2012

    Hi Helen,

    Thanks for responding! I love the bacon frying analogy! Would be nice to have a bite of it while we are frying under RAD!  I agree we will do anything to keep the monster away... during chemo I tried really hard to visualize the poison killing the evil cancer cells, but I always came back to the worry of it also killing good cells. Same with radiation. I, too, heard the fatigue will hit around the fourth week of treatments. I had serious fatigue, bone/muscle/nerve aches with chemo so I guess I will be used to it. Walking seems to help so far. I am glad to have all of these posts so I don't feel alone.

  • Lucille3361
    Lucille3361 Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2012

    Mary,

    I, too, teach and work was my sanity...it normalizes this whole ordeal. The students understand my situation and are so helpful.  

  • Kayce234
    Kayce234 Member Posts: 249
    edited January 2012

    So my appointment today was to get the ball rolling and have my exam and set up my mapping date.  I'm going in on Tuesday, January 10th for the mapping then the ball is rolling.  A bit nervous since this makes the cancer real...I've had surgery before so that wasn't a big deal but radiation is so cancer :(

  • newksmom100
    newksmom100 Member Posts: 55
    edited January 2012

    Hello all.  Am in need of your expertise.  Had my first appt with onc today and feel like my time was just completely wasted.  All along, my surgeon has said that she felt I would not need chemo.  Oncologist today was a medical onc (chemo) and confirmed only radiation, no chemo, and will refer me to a radiation onc.  If it was pretty much certain that I would not need chemo, then why did I have to see the medical oncologist and not go straight to the other one?  So frustrated.  Now waiting to hear from #2 onc and then start again.  Anyone else have this issue or any answers as to why I saw an oncologist I really did not need to see?  Thanks to all.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited January 2012

    newksmom100, it's always a good idea to hear the opinions of various doctors.  Your surgeon was correct in advising you to see the MO and to make sure the MO didn't feel chemo was necessary.  There are many factors that determine chemo and looking at your dx, the only thing I can think of that would get you a ticket into the chemo chair would be your age.  Typically, the older you are (with your dx), the less chance of doing chemo.  If a women is younger, the MO will suggest chemo because the younger you are when you get BC, the more aggressive the cancer is considered.

    There is also a test called an Oncotype dx test.  This is a test that either you can request or an MO will suggest in regards to chemo.  There is also the BRCA test.  Both these tests will test the genetic components of your tumor.  If you have any family history of breast cancer the BRCA helps give you an idea of your recurrence chances and many other factors.  All this information is something an MO would talk to you about if need be.  Good luck in your treatment decisions.

     
  • anne67
    anne67 Member Posts: 36
    edited January 2012

    Hi Aussie Kate,



    Sorry about your setback. Got my path results today-need another surgery as one margin was not clear. Will probably need to move to the Feb rads group. Thanks for starting this group-your spirit was what initially got me to set up a profile. Best of luck and keep us posted!

  • tnhelen
    tnhelen Member Posts: 63
    edited January 2012

    Anne 67 - I had a reexcision also and the second one got clear margins.  Good luck, I'm sure it will turn up ok.  Just seemed like my breast was sore and never really healed inside before I started RADS. 

    I love this board.  It is so nice to talk to other ladies going through this.

    Helen

  • tnhelen
    tnhelen Member Posts: 63
    edited January 2012

    Why are some of you laying on your stomach for radiation?  Just wondering.

    I lay on my back and they put my right hand in a holder and my left hand under my butt and line me up.  No molds or anything else.  They gave me some cream too and it is called radiaplex RX gel and I put it on immediately after treatment.  The nurse said to slather it on the nipple since it sets up higher and may get more rays.

  • WIMusicMaker
    WIMusicMaker Member Posts: 78
    edited January 2012

    tnhelen-I am on my stomach because they are radiating my left breast. They are trying to minimize any possible damage to my heart, lungs, and ribs. My left breast will hang down in a hole and my right breast is kind of smashed on a flat surface. It sounds more uncomfortable than it is. 

    Lucille-what subject/grade do you teach?

    newsksmom-think of your MO as your primary care physician for your breast cancer. Even though you will be working with the RO first, after you are done with radiation your MO will be the doc you see for all your follow up appointments for years to come. I also think they want you to meet the whole team at first.

    Have a great day! Mary 

  • Terry71
    Terry71 Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2012

    They are radiating my left also and I was on my back, arms up, hand linked on top of my head with a funky mold that was made for me... Mind you I had a left mx Dec 14th,  will be starting rads in 2 weeks... where I will be staying I was also informed that my stay is FREE but I have to buy all my own meals, wow Im gonna be C free but homeless by the time this is all done with.... Sheesh... If I drive it daily its an hour to an hour and a half, 200.00 a week for gas and parking, gonna cost us 1,000.00 for 5 weeks...... or I stay there and eat 1 meal a day..... seeing as I would be having to order food from resturants or eating in the hospital cafeteria or coffee shop...... Sheeshhhhhh

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited January 2012

    Hi ladies;

    Popping in here to share some helpful info on the main Breastcancer.org site on Radiation Therapy, including types of radiation therapy, what to expect, and how to manage side effects.

    Hope this helps!

    --Your Mods

  • anne67
    anne67 Member Posts: 36
    edited January 2012

    Thank Helen! How soon after your re-excision did you start radiation?

  • Vicks1960
    Vicks1960 Member Posts: 473
    edited January 2012

    Terry71

    Check with the American Cancer Society,  Sometimes they have grants to help with travel expenses...Maybe there will be a microwave and small fridge that you can prepare food from home to take with you and just reheat it.  Also, generaly hospital cafeteria food is pretty reasonable, cheaper than fast food places..

    Vickie

  • tnhelen
    tnhelen Member Posts: 63
    edited January 2012

    Anne,

    I had my reexicision on November 23rd and started rads on December 27th.  We had a family cruise scheduled for December 18 - 24th and with the holidays it worked out like that.  However, I was measured for all the radiation before our cruise because my out of pocket maximum was filled for 2011 on my insurance and I was trying to squeeze in as much as I could before the new year!

  • Lucille3361
    Lucille3361 Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2012

    Hi Mary,

    I teach college freshmen and sophmores...very much like high school :) They keep me on my toes and make me laugh during all this.

    Cindy 

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited January 2012

    newksmom100--I was told that the Surgeon CUTS the cancer and the Medical Onc TREATS any strays left behind.  Treating Cancer is their specialty.  It was probably a great thing that the MO said you did not need chemo vs just the surgeon.  My MO said I may not need rads but 2 RO have confirmed that I do need them with my Trip Neg/positive node status.

    Maggie

  • treegirl
    treegirl Member Posts: 24
    edited January 2012

    So many teachers on here! I teach too, 5th grade, and hope to continue working throughout. I have had my initial appt and tattoos and begin radiation next week 1/12. I was perusing the board to see if there is anything I should do beforehand to prepare and prevent more side effects, didn't find much. I tend to have sensitive skin so a bit concerned about that.  

  • treegirl
    treegirl Member Posts: 24
    edited January 2012

    To Newksmom100: It sounds like nomal procedure to see Medical Oncologist, who works together with Radiation Oncologists and Surgeons to coordinate all treatment. At my facility they work as a team and all met with me in succession after initial diagnosis. I too only needed surgery and radiation and not chemo, it looks like your tumor is similar in size and stage. The kind of cancer I have (mucinous) does not respond to chemo. I feel very lucky for not having to go through that which so many others of you have endured. I had drawn out healing issues after surgey which is why my radiation treatment is starting so much later. 

  • Susan726
    Susan726 Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2012

    Hi Ladies,

    I had a lumpectomy in October and a re-excision in November. I just had my 6th radiation treatment today. The last 3 times it has taken less than 10 minutes. I bought a jar of the CVS brand of Aquafor and I use it right after the treatment and at bedtime. I'm also using Tom's of Maine deodorant. I don't feel fresh or clean. I think I'll pick up some baby powder tomorrow and some aloe.

  • newksmom100
    newksmom100 Member Posts: 55
    edited January 2012

    THANKS to all who responded to my question.  I feel better now after your hand-holding  I was probably just having a moment in time....  Scheduled today for initial consult with RO on Thursday (1/12) and suppose I will learn more there.  Thanks again, I hope EVERYONE has a good weekend.

  • anafoefana
    anafoefana Member Posts: 164
    edited January 2012

    I have my first rads on Monday and I am calm.  I have been using Emu oil twice a day for about a week and hoping everything will go well.  They told me to have "clean skin" for treatments, no creams ect.  But, they said it was okay to apply after treatment.  The nurse told me that some of the greasy ointments actually create burns, so try to stay away from them.  The RO is very pro Aquaphor, but I don't like it much as it does not absorb well.  Other people have mentioned Calendula lotion which is supposed to be very good and someone told me about Sween cream. I guess whatever works for you!  I have olive skin and am hoping that will help!  

    I purchased front opening sport bras and am hoping these will work. I was told that some people cannot wear bras during rads.  I have been wearing these sport bras 24/7 since my lumpectomy and hope to continue.  They are cotton and no frills Fruit of the Loom from Walmart. 

    I have been told this part of the treatment will be easier than what I have already been through.  Chemo was not terrible, surgery was fine and I recovered quickly, so on to the next hurdle.  I am still on Herceptin, but so far no mentionable side effects from it. 

    AussieKate Herceptin is a wonderful target drug for HER2.  I was stage 3 with a 7cmm mass which was completely destroyed with chemo.  I had no traces of a mass by the end and my margins and nodes were clear.  I had a lumpectomy 6 weeks ago.  Chemo was not terrible for me and was able to maintain a some what of a normal life during most of it. 

    tnhelen glad to hear you are doing well.  Do you have noticeable fatigue?  That is my only concern as I  plan to continue working.  I  will be going to treatment from work everyday.  

  • Ossa
    Ossa Member Posts: 919
    edited January 2012

    anafoefana

    I too had a large mass and therefor had chemo first as you did.. my mass was also completely destroyed by chemo YAY.. My surgeon suggested a mastectomy to be on the safe side as she said the bigger the tumour was initially the more chance there is for it to come back.. She said if I really wanted a lumpectomy he would do it, but suggested the mastectomy.. I opted for mastectomy as I do not want to do this again.. First four chemo treatments (AC) was not bad, second set of four(Docetaxel and Herceptin) was not great. lots of mouthsores, bonepain, weakness, hospital stay.... but that is in the past now. Still on Herceptin until june ( no side effects from Herceptin) Also on Tamoxifen for five years.. Some hotflashes.. dryness :(.... small moodswings.. Finishe my expander fills and now on th radiation Jan 12 for marking and molds..

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2012

    I am starting 6 weeks of rads on Monday. I am little apprehensive, but after two rounds of chemo and a BMX, this does seem like an easier ordeal, all things considered.

     About the chemo discussion earlier in the thread, I had neo-adjuvant chemo, and although it did take my hair and some of my energy, it also killed an awful lot of cancer. My tumor shrank from 8X8 centimeters to 1.2X0.3. It was not a complete response, but it was significant all the same. 

  • chef127
    chef127 Member Posts: 891
    edited January 2012

    WOW,

    There are a lot of strong woman on this thread. I chickened out of chemo but I start rads on Tues. and I'm feeling so nerveous about that. Your stories are heart wrenching for me. You've been through soooo much and your ready for what comes next. You have my admiration. I wish I was as strong.

    Good luck with the rads. I'm shaking in my boots. But you have all inspired me. THANK YOU.

    Maureen

  • marilyn113
    marilyn113 Member Posts: 118
    edited January 2012

    I have had 17 out of 30 rads.  I was VERY nervous to start like many of you.  Until the last couple of days, it has been very easy.  The mapping was much quicker than I thought.  The tats were painful for me though very quick.  Each treatment takes less than 5 minutes including getting me in position.  The machine zaps about 12 seconds from one side of the breast and 18 from the other side where the cancer was located.  The worst part for me is that the waiting room is co-ed.  I seem to see mostly men waiting plus there's a convict that comes in at that time.  Makes me self conscious sitting there and walking around in my gown.  The last four days I've had fatigue.  I worked 1/2 days on Wed and Thu and not at all on Fri.  Some people could probably work through it, but i don't like working when my productivity is low and I'm out of it.  Also, I've had fibromyalgia for 20 years and expected that it would make the fatigue worse, but don't think it has.  My skin is pink but holding up.  I've been using aloe after tx and My Girls cream at bedtime.  The RO had me start using 1% OTC steroid cream 2 x a day this week. 

    Good luck to all of you.  I think you will find the first 3 weeks to be a breeze.  I can't vouch for after that yet.

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited January 2012

    anafoefana: You might find this thread for the 6 cm+ women to be helpful.

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/47/topic/778961?page=2#idx_48 

    chef127: I am concerned for you when you say you chickened out of chemo. Did you talk to a medical oncologist about your fears? They can really do so much about the side effects. And, not all drug regimens are as harsh as others. You have a hormone positive cancer which can be extremely receptive to chemo. The reason that I am concerned for you is that I see you have had positive nodes. If you use a systemic treatment like chemo that treats the entire body system, then it can get at any stray cells and increases your odds of not having recurrence. That is what reduces my fear of treatments, following all the treatments that my MO is showing me have had the best statistical results for my diagnosis. Just remember, being brave does not mean that you never feel fear. I wish you the very best through this! 

  • AthabascanWarriorPrincess
    AthabascanWarriorPrincess Member Posts: 18
    edited January 2012

    Ah, rads. I've been through chemo, mastectomy and now rads. I was SCARED to death, worst than chemo to do this, but I've got 11 of 42 to go. I had a woman who had been through this terrify me with her horror story thus, where my fears began. The burning has set in and tonight I am trying Aloe Vera with Lidocaine, I was trying to read up on it at first, couldn't find anything so I'm trying it. It's sticky and uncomfortable. Maybe a nice shower and back to Aveeno. It's fairly expensive and we just haven't had the money to spend on Aveeno or Aquaphor (I'm running low and don't want to run out before this ends, but I may be able to get some tomorrow.) Anyhow sorry for the complaining. I am grateful to go through this with a great bunch of ladies. Thank you all for your posts!

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