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  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited January 2012

    In the hospital they gave me most of what I needed. I had to bring a lightweight robe and slippers, but I could have used a second gown as a robe if I hadn't taken one. Need the slippers to walk around when you get up to it. They asked me to bring my own inhalers and nasal spray prescriptions.

    I did ask for lip ointment from home. It was very dry and I was also reacting to the formaldehyde in the hospital disinfectant (am very sensitized to it). I also asked for a box of lotion-type kleenexes instead of the scratchy hospital kleenexes because the formaldehyde plus the dry air were giving me nosebleeds. I didn't really ask for anything else other than magazines, a cookie, and fruit.

    I didn't bring my going-home clothes with me. I had them brought on going-home day, but I packed them before I went in: a soft cardigan and Lululemon pants. I have lived in cashmere-blend cardigans since coming home (other than PJs).

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited January 2012

    I also brought a light weight robe.. the hospital gave me a robe, but I preferred my own... I would ask the hospital what they give you cause it will help you pack.. My hospital gave me lots of things, including lip balm...

    I needed to bring street clothes because I travelled for surgery...

  • ReadingMama
    ReadingMama Member Posts: 573
    edited January 2012

    redninrah - the top of page 117 has a good list for surgery and stuff for home, as well as some comments by some ladies who went through the surgery recently. 

    micheleboots - I echo everyone else, no shoveling.  Also if you will be in the hospital for 3-5 days, you might want you dh to take the following week off and not the week you are in the hospital, although most of us have said have someone stay that first night with us was invaluable.

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited January 2012

    I agree with Meegan... my husband was not with me the week I was in the hospital... Matter of fact, my husband only took two days off.. I had help from friends who had more time... and during one hospital stay, I was alone... had the nurses.... it was fine.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited January 2012
    Yes, ReadingMama is right -- the hospital week is boring, but you don't really need help then. The week off would be better starting with the day you go home. My husband worked at his office while I was in the hospital. His office was near the hospital so he would pop over because he could but he basically didn't need to take much time off until I went home.
  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited January 2012

    I have kids in school, so I need him to be here for them...

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited January 2012

    Can he get the kids off to school and then go to work?? Or can a friend help?? My son went to a friends house for a week while I was in the hospital.

  • redninrah
    redninrah Member Posts: 773
    edited January 2012

    My husband travels so surgery is on Monday, and he leaves for Bangkok on Wednesday and back the following we'd. My kids both go to school, and my In laws are in charge of them. I just hope that's it going to be easy when I get home, as my youngest 3 yr old is so clingy to me and often wants me to pick her up.

  • puce
    puce Member Posts: 159
    edited January 2012

    Hi redninrah,

    Good luck with your surgery!  I have a 6 month old baby and couldn't hold/lift her for at least 2 weeks (5 pound restriction for 4 weeks). My 9, and 5 year old were gone for 2 weeks and that helped a lot.  My DH took care of me and the baby.  You need someone to help with showers and food when you get back from the hospital.  I couldn't turn on the shower nob and couldn't really dry myself (a robe could help) It takes time to heal but you will get through it, just take it one day at a time and be patient. I am 6 weeks out and sooooo happy I did this.

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited January 2012

    Redinarah, good luck with your sx. It is definitely harder for you ladies with small children. My youngest was 13 when I had sx and at sleep away camp. She came home 10 days after sx. A good thing was she started doing her own laundry and some other things since I couldn't. She'd like me to go back to doing it for her, but that ship has sailed. Maybe your 3 yo will get less clingy out of necessity. You cannot pick him up. Don't risk it. I really admire you ladies with small children. Hugs to you and all good thoughts being sent your way. You will do great!

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited January 2012

    I agree - the kids (or pets) that can't control themselves have to be controlled. Mine is 16 and she could not be less interested in being held. Similarly the cat. That's a toughie - even sneezing really hurt my abs. I can't imagine being pounced on by a preschooler.

  • ReadingMama
    ReadingMama Member Posts: 573
    edited January 2012

    redninrah - if you can, try to plan/get some more support.  It is not usually easy when you get home, and of course each person is different and the time you will need depends on your sx (single or double) and your body.  But you will not be able to lift a 3 year old and you really don't want to put yourself at risk after going through all of this.  Can your in-laws stay with you or can the 3 year old go there?  Can your in-laws help with cooking, laundry, etc for a week?

  • redninrah
    redninrah Member Posts: 773
    edited January 2012

    My mother in law is staying with me and kids go to school 9till 5

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited January 2012

    That should help a lot... You will need her to basically care for them for a week or two.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited January 2012

    And I'm back into my jeans! Still swollen in the abdomen but not so much I can't do them up. I think I have lost about 4-5 pounds, 1 lb of which is the mastectomy and the rest I guess is due to the reduced portion size that can fit into my tighter belly space.

  • ReadingMama
    ReadingMama Member Posts: 573
    edited January 2012

    Just bought some Scar Guard yesterday and boy is that stuff expensive!  And I didn't expect it to be a liquid.  I figure I will use one bottle, then switch to Mederma.  But has anyone used Scar Guard and gotten good results?  Also, after I put it on this morning, I noticed later that there was whitish patches, like glue residue along the scar.  Does this mean I am using too much?  Should I peel it off? I peeled it off before I applied it again tonight.

    How long does it take for the swelling in abs and breast to go down?  months?  goldlining, I can fit in my jeans too (yeah!), but my abs are also definately still swollen.  And I'm not sure if my breast is still swollen or not or how much it might shrink and/or settle over the next months.

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited January 2012

    I'm shaped TOTALLY differently now. My work pants (button up slack types) are huge on me now (with the belly gone) and some of my other pants fit strangely, as my belly is gone, but my butt is still there. I think I'll have to find new styles of pants that fit me well. I HATE shopping so I'm not looking forward to this, but it's a ways down the line anyway. Not ready for shopping yet I'm still changing shape and all. I do wonder how long it will take for my shape to settle down and not change so much. We'll see. Anyone have any insight?

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited January 2012

    Red, sending you some gentle hugs in advance for tomorrow...Good luck.

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited January 2012

    Good luck tomorrow Red! I will be thinking of you.

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited January 2012

    Hey all,

    Did you have a swollen belly after surgery? I'm almost 4 weeks out and I feel like I'm a bit swollen in the middle mostly above, but also a bit below where the incision is/was. I'm wondering if I'm fat (entirely possible) or just swollen, or perhaps some of each. Thanks!!

    -Judy

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited January 2012

    I had swelling that came and went, and in fact very recently and my surgery was in August. I am not sure if it has anything to do with what I eat or what the story is. Maybe that area will always be prone to swelling. If anyone has any information, I'd be interested in hearing it as well.

  • Seashellie
    Seashellie Member Posts: 152
    edited January 2012

    Hi CookieMonster,

    I'm 6 weeks out and a bit swollen above and below the incision. If I'm on my feet a long time and active it gets a lot worse and feels like I have to hold it to keep my insides from falling out (the incision is healed well and I know that's not possible... just that feeling.) I'm still wearing my binder or support panties when I know I'm going to be doing a lot. Laying down with my feet up high helps a lot to relieve it. If I eat too much at one sitting I feel bloated/swollen down there, too.

    I trust that this will subside over time as it's my biggest issue now.

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited January 2012

    Thanks  SeaShelly & kay1963

    Today DH and I went out and bought me two under garments to wear instead of the stupid binder they gave me at the hospital. One was from Frederick's and one from the Maidenform cart. The fredericks one has about a billion hooks and eyes and the other is a step in. We'll see which I like better.

    -Judy

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited January 2012

    I have swelling/roundness as well, and it seems that it expands when I eat (i.e., not swelling but stretching). I never had a binder. I wonder what that would do.

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited January 2012

    I was not swollen after stage I but now that I am past stage II, my upper belly swells, especially by the end of the day.. I look 5 months pregnant. I have worn compression.. for one month after DIEP and 6 weeks after stage II... now I wear it when I want to keep the swelling down and have tolerance. I bought a Marena brand... very comfortable in comparison to some.

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited January 2012

    How long until you ladies were able to drive, go back to work, and get into a real bra...not one of those practical bras..How about the pain.  Was it bad?.  How many days were you in the hospital?  The nurse said to drink two glasses of water/clear fluid before coming to the hospital.  I might just pee my pants before I get there.  Did anyone else have to do this?

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited January 2012

    Michele... I did not drink before surgery

    I drove 2 weeks post surgery

    Went back to work 9 weeks post BMX/hip flap surgery, but I had a complication... but 5 weeks post DIEP

     Bought a real bra for 2 weeks post DIEP, (7 weeks post BMX)

    Didn't have much pain

    Was in the hospital 5 nights after BMX/hip flaps, and 7 nights post DIEP (but I was not allowed to leave without an escort and the hurricane interfered)

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited January 2012

    Gee that instruction to drink two glasses of water seems odd. I was told not to eat or drink anything the day of surgery. I thought there was a danger of aspirating or throwing up while you're under anesthesia.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited January 2012

    I was told nothing to drink after midnight. A drink would have made it easier to get the IV started because man alive, I am so dehydrated after NPO. If you drank water before going to the hospital (e.g., 5:30 for 6:00 admission) by the time the anaesthesia starts at 8:00, clear fluid has cleared the stomach, whereas food takes longer (I consulted Dr. Google on this) but most hospitals have a full NPO after midnight out of an abundance of caution related to aspiration. You're lucky if they let you drink water! Unless they are planning to ultrasound you, I am pretty sure it is okay to pee.

    I bought bras today, 3 1/2 weeks postop. I don't really need it for support passively but for walking etc. I think reducing the jiggle will be more comfortable on the skin as it is still healing. 

    The pain management method varies and the American ladies seem to have different pain med administration than we have in Canada. I had a nerve block drip in the abdomen but it was a clinical trial and might have been placebo. I also had a patient controlled anaesthesia and oral tylenol. I did take the tylenol but not that interested in the PCA. I had more pain from the headache (reaction to hospital disinfectant) than the abdomen, even without using the PCA. That said, I was weak and wobbly the first day I had the Foley catheter out and had to walk to washroom but it got better every day. I did not find it anywhere near as painful as a C-section, for example. Sneezing and coughing are NOT things I want to do, even now. My skin on my chest/cleavage kind of smarts, like a sunburn, but I wouldn't call it "pain".

    My surgeon projected 4 sleeps in hospital but I developed a skin infection and although I immediately got IV antibiotics, I was really tired the first day I had it, and that delayed getting up to walk and I stayed an extra day.

    I don't plan to be driving for a while because I don't have the concentration to do it well. That's more how anaesthesia affects me, I think. I had the same after the lump/mx surgeries. I have a replacement for my active work duties for 8 weeks, and nobody seems to care about the other duties, beyond lipservice. I will resume other activities as I am up to it but this time I am not pushing myself like I did after lump/mx. However, becaues of various factors, I did a few 3 hour meetings at about a week after surgery. Those involved walking a block to and from as well as sitting and using the computer. I walked on the treadmill for an hour at 2 weeks. 

    Until the tummy skin stretches out to cover the area taken out, your front is shorter than your back. I knew it but didn't really internalize the meaning until I experienced it. I'm still slightly stooped over. 

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited January 2012

    I was told to drink the water before I arrive.  And I was to arrive three hours before surgery, so indeed my stomach would be empty.  The nurse said it helps to keep you hydrated and would make finding veins easier.  Also, one would think the actual stitching of the vessels easier.  I plan to hydrate like crazy for a day or two before..Figure it can't hurt.  I was also told, no caffeine, chocolate or mint after surgery...The coffee alone might kill me...I am already craving my coffee after.

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