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Has anyone else experienced an influx of family and friends since dx that were hardly around before? Part of me understands and appreciates their concern but another part of me wants to ask wth were you before?

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  • sewingnut
    sewingnut Member Posts: 1,129
    edited December 2011

    I had the opposite happen. A 20 yr friend just disappeared after I was diagnosed. I guess a cancer diagnosis affect people differently. People look at you and think it could be me....

  • SheChirple
    SheChirple Member Posts: 954
    edited December 2011

    Not a lot, but a few.  I actually got a call from my high school sweetheart!  I haven't spoken to him in over 7 years.  We were innocent high school sweethearts, if you know what I mean, and then friends as adults.  He found out about my diagnosis through an email forwarded around and looked me up to say Hi.  It was weird. 

    I had a few people call or send notes.  I'm kind of not sure how I feel about it.  On one hand, it's nice that they care enough to reach out. On the other hand, yeah, where have you been otherwise.  I'm kinda torn.

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited December 2011

    I'm wondering where the he'll my "friends" are.

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited December 2011

    I had lots of people fall off the face of the earth once they found out I had bc.

  • Leah_S
    Leah_S Member Posts: 8,458
    edited December 2011

    MadisoninMd, I think most of us have aquaintances who we like, just don't have a strong connection with. Turn the situation around - if one of those aquaintances got a dx of a serious illness, wouldn't you call/email just to let them know you're concerned?

    Where were they before? Living their lives, like we all were.

    As you can see from the replies here, it's a lot better to have people suddenly drop into your life rather than have them drop out.

    Even though the relationship was casual, the concern is not.

    All the best.

    Leah

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited December 2011

    You are so right Leah...as usual...one of my dearest friends didnt call me not even one time...just 1 email all during tx...now i got an invitation to her daughters wedding..yeah right!!!!!!

  • kathleen1966
    kathleen1966 Member Posts: 793
    edited January 2012
    that is funny!  It was pretty amazing for me, the amount of people that came out of the wood work to help me during treatment.  I had meals continuously delivered to my house for almost a year. Some of these people I barely knew. They called, they sent cards, they sent more cards..they send flowers, edible arrangements, gift cards, popcorns..they knitted me hats for chemo, shawls to keep me warm...I was very touched. But yes, there were a couple of very large surprises.  My best friend growing up barely called me.  Another best friend from my high-school days and early college only wrote "let me know if you need anything" on my facebook page.  Another "friend" whom I was very there for when she lost her father at the age of 50, never called or sent a card once. I will forgive them of course.  I am already talking more to my best friend growing up. I understand that she is somewhat dysfunctional and I love her unconditionally. Everyone has their reasons for being weak. I may have done the same thing, who knows. In the beginning of this whole ordeal, I sent out a letter asking for help though.  Maybe that's why I got such a response.  Everyone knew I had young children, they could relate to how hard it was going to be....and it was hard. It hurts though when your friends are not there for you.  But cancer just hurts all together.  And the friends that disappear or the family that acts like what your going through is no big deal are all part of the whole horrible cancer experience.  I got a couple of really heart-felt letters from an old boyfriend from college....and that made me feel good...young....not damaged....I welcomed and sought out all help..and I still get teary eyed thinking of how much help I actually got...and of all those people I can think of only one that showed up with some cookies in the beginning to "get the scoop only" and then never was seen again...but this was expected of this person Smile
  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2012

    Yes, my father went from writing me two nasty, accusatory, bitter letters a year to suddenly inundating me with whiny letters about how sorry he feels for me and how he wants to hear my voice and bla-bla-bla. I have spoken to him once on the phone, but otherwise make poor dh deal with him.

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited January 2012

    I had people bail on me too. But some others stepped up which was a nice surprise. One thing you find out with this diagnosis is who loves you.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited January 2012

    I had it the other way around...the case of the disappearing family and friends.

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited January 2012
    Me too Barb...poof.like see ya!!!!!
  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2012

    Argh! Just had a call that made me think of this thread. This woman, whom I have known very superficially for several years, called up to invite us to a charity event. I said that i was sick. "Ohhhh yes, I heard something like that, but didn't know if it was  just a rumor, and I heard last week but thought I wouldn't call you in the middle of Christmas." So really she was just dying to confirm the rumor and the reason for the call was a pretext. Then I got the usual, "my friend Nancy had it and she is fine," followed by a lengthy and excruciating account of how my "friend" put her knee out of joint a few months ago.

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited January 2012
    I will say it over and over again.unless you hear the word cancer and your name in the same sentence you will never understand...period.They just dont get it!!!!!!!!
  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited January 2012

    I found that my closest friends were not my biggest helpers, and in time I came to understood why -- they were reeling with shock and grief, just as I was.  The ones closest to you hurt the most.  I learned to give those closest to me the most margin for error in my heart, and excuse them more quickly when they didn't tend to my needs.  I mostly just felt bad for being the cause of so much pain to the people I love the most.  

    A very tender-hearted friend at my church, who I never heard from once after my initial diagnosis, came to me six months later in tears, so ashamed that she had not even sent me a card, and begging my forgiveness.  She said she was so smothered in grief that she cried every day for a while and knew she just couldn't face me without crying -- and she knew that was not going to be helpful to me.  This was not offered as an excuse but rather as an explanation.  She knew she could have done better and she was sorry. That meant a lot to me.  

    I think there were other people in my life who experienced the same thing. 

    On the other hand, it was the people on the periphery of my life who really stepped up to the plate.  I was really humbled at the number of cards I received in the mail from people I barely know, particularly when I think about how bad I have been about sending cards to others.  

    I think until I get better at showing up and being there for other hurting people, I probably shouldn't complain about the people who didn't show up for me. I'm working on it. 

    I do think I am learning from my own trials -- I'm becoming more compassionate, more observant and sensitive, more open to letting others voice their pains and fears to me.  And I think I'm becoming better at saying helpful and sensitive things back to them.

    Those of us who have walked through fire have had our senses exercised in ways other people have not.  We can be among the wise if we choose to rise above, forgive, and love with an open heart.

    I figure if we have to go through this awful trial, we at least ought to grow from it and become better human beings who can help others.

  • kathleen1966
    kathleen1966 Member Posts: 793
    edited January 2012

    lulubee, very well said!

  • shirleysangels22
    shirleysangels22 Member Posts: 36
    edited January 2012

    Hi lulubee,

    My family and I were really shocked to hear some of the things our ( friends) have said to me after they are told I have Breast Cancer and was having surgery to have both breasts removed and not having reconstriction done.  1.) well everybody has to die sometime. 2.) why in the world would you have both taken when it's only in one breast? you must be crazy. 3) I had a friend who had the same thing happen a year ago and they didn't make it. 4.) friends that I have been on several cruises with never called, e-mailed, or sent a card????????. But, on the flip side I have had the most loving and caring support from other friends and family that make all the other comments seem small. I have a friend that called me every day for a month before my surgery and has called every day sence. She lives an hour away and had her husdand drive her here in the morning and would stay until late afternoon. She brought food for the week. Another friend did the same thing on day's that the other one couldn't make it. My sister-in- law also brought food over every week. Another sister-in-law brought me several Willow Tree Angels. I have angels all over my house inside and outside. One of my good friends even took the day off on the day of my surgery to be there for me and my husband and family. I had 10 people in the waiting room. So I guess the bottom line here is when your in a really really bad spot you find out who will be there for you. I have been blessed with great friends and a wonderful family and supportive and caring husband of 43 years and counting.  It's funny but, as time goes by being 5 months out I still get the loving phone calls and support. My daughter has told me several time. Mom, those that matter don't care and those that care don't matter.

    God speed to a healthy and cancer free 2012. Keep the faith my sisters in pink.

    Shirley

  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited January 2012

    One thing BC has taught me over the past four years is to be slow to assume that those people who say unhelpful things or who fail to show up in our times of need are people who do not care about us.  
     
    There are people in all of our lives who do care in their hearts, but have no idea how to show it outwardly.  They've just never learned how to be gracious and proactive in expressing how they feel. I think a lot of those people know this about themselves, and feel bad about it.  Who has not ever blurted the wrong thing in a tense or awkward moment?  We've all done it. How many times have I failed to mail a card to a sick friend when I had every good intention of doing so?  I don't even want to think about it. It makes me cringe.
     
    Honestly, is there anything that can make people feel more awkward and socially inept than trying to think of something appropriate to say to a friend with cancer?
     
    Now that I have personal experience with cancer, I'm pretty sure that in the past I have said unhelpful things to people with cancer.  I cared very much about those people, but I did not know what to say nor what I could do to help them. I hope they felt as charitable in their hearts toward me as I was feeling about them in those moments, even though I was undoubtedly not responding the way they wanted and needed me to.  Now that I have walked in those shoes, I have some new wisdom to work with as I go forward. 
     
    Everyone out there is in pain over something.  One good thing cancer has done for me is it has opened my eyes to this, and it is changing the way I engage with the world.  It inspires me to want to learn to be compassionate, kindhearted, forgiving, and patient with everyone, even the people who annoy or hurt me.  It sure feels more peaceful to try to live that way.
     
    Anyway, I've gone on and on here, but all I meant to say was this... some of those people who say irritating things to you or never mail the card or fail to bring you casseroles DO actually love you and care very much about your wellbeing.  I know, because sometimes I am one of those people. 
  • ToriGirl
    ToriGirl Member Posts: 1,188
    edited January 2012

    lulubee-Thank you for giving me another perspective on it all....

    Tori 

  • jankc
    jankc Member Posts: 96
    edited January 2012

    What a relief it is to see this thread...

    My husband, kids and spouses, and friends were great.  My mother, eight siblings and their spouses, and my husband's side did a disappearing act.  I didn't even hear boo from some of them.  My mother told me not too long ago that since I didn't need chemo, it didn't seem like I had cancer.  Plus once the surgery was over, my cancer was gone and the radiation was just a sidebar to my being cured. 

    Oh...

    I haven't been too understanding and forgiving about all of it, but on the plus side, it helped me streamline my life...!  Since it was the kids' turn to spend Christmas at their out-of-town inlaws homes, my husband and I didn't waste any time with the argument-inducing divvying up of holiday time between our two families...we went on a vacation and had a wonderful time without feeling one iota of guilt about our own disappearing act!    

  • gonegirl
    gonegirl Member Posts: 1,871
    edited January 2012

    Good for you, Jankc.  I've had a sad experience dealing with my father. He lives only 6 hours away and I have tried in the past to have a relationship with him.  We've had a very difficult relationship where he's disappeared and I always thought that was somehow my fault. I tried to fix things over and over again and he just never responded.  I finally gave up and folks had to tell me it wasn't my fault, the he blew it and was missing out on a wonderful daughter. He doesn't write, call, visit, or even send a birthday card.

    Now that I have cancer, he's calling and emailing.  I call these phone calls "Cancer Calls" since he didn't call before. I created a blog to update folks on what is going on and just posted something about how scared I am feeling. My father emailed me in response about how when he was 23 he was told he had cancer and wouldn't live so he learned to live one day at a time.  All I could think was so he's spiritually at living a day at a time, yet he still abandoned his daughter.  I ended up sobbing.  I appreciate the fact that he's trying to help. Still where was he before?  I wrote, I visited, I invited. Nothing.  Now I have cancer and he's trying to be a father.  Oh, God, I knew this would make it hard.

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