January 2012 chemo
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Just wanted to tell a funny story storta . Last nite 1st nite home after chemo had my normal sleeping tab and then had 1mg of ativan as told by onc nurse ...off my face... so much I slept through the nite and fireworks etc until 3.30am when I went to the loo, instead of standing up to get off I fell fowrward straight on to my face ... now have mess on forehead, nose and chin, bruises on elbows and knees, OMG the things my poor husband has to put up with !!!
He called an ambulance they arrived in 10 mins ,so that was good, checked me over and I went straight back to sleep again till 9am today .. not a good look today ! give you the mail
One right boob with bruise from nipple to top of collar bone where port is ( which I'm glad is in) scar on left side where boob is gone and now frankensteins monsters wife look on the face .. NOW what else can go wrong??
hopefully not much elseof for 1/2 half hour walk in the evening suntime
Live Lynne
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Hope you got home from the walk OK Lynne ;-)
Must have been fun explaining that to the ambos...
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Oh Lynne
That is awful! Do you think it was the Ativan? Just a little too much? I hope you're not too bruised today...good sign you're up for a walk. :-) -
Welcome, misslondon42 - sorry you had to join us, but glad that you're here. This is turning out to be a wonderful place of support as we get ready to, or start, our treatments.
I was supposed to start chemo on the 6th but it's been pushed back until the 19th because treatment has changed. I'm having a port installed on the 12th and a party on the 14th for my dearest friends to "meet Portia" (yes, I've already named my port) and wear silly hats. Someone said I'm not taking this seriously enough - really? Sometimes, you have to laugh to keep from crying.
So gives us a heads-up the day before treatments so that we can all send love and positive energy your way!
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I menntioned to a supposed friend about my Chemo...she actually said "Well, I guess your not open to alternative medicines"..then a "good luck". I just wanted to scream at her. I may speak my mind often...but I do try to think about what comes out before I open it!! I shook off the doubts she left for me.....I have done as much reseach as I could, made what I hope are the best choices and made hard decisins...to be honest I feel most of the information just bounces off of me...as I am not a doctor. I weighed the odds and all information and I am content with my decision to take the aggressive chemo.
I really posted this as a pep talk to myself...I'll look back at it later..and feel a little better.
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PCBarbie: your "friend" is unbelievably inconsiderate! When I was first diagnosed and decided to have a BMX, a good friend of mine (no breast cancer, perfectly healthy) told me I was making a mistake, that "aggressive and more isn't always better". Really? I'm the only person living in my head. I tried to explain how I came to that decision, and most of my decision came from knowing myself really well (I'm 43, not 23!) and what level of stress I could take with future testing on the "healthy" breast...She did apologize several days later. It amazes me what some people say.
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PCBarbie - Yeah, finding ways to respond to people who question why you're doing chemo is probably the toughest thing. I actually did not tell one of my friends that I'd be doing chemo because I had already gotten the lecture about how there are so many other things to do, and how the pharma companies are hiding all the true information about real cures that won't harm you, etc. I like her too much to aggravate our friendship, and I figured she would really worry too much about me. It's better this way, and since she lives overseas, she won't be seeing me during the process. Times like these, we have to do the research and then just trust our gut.
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Okay... Here's my rundown of day 4, post first treatment of TC (Thursday the 29th):
Still no nausea, have not had to take the Zofran. Not much of an appetite though. Yesterday, had moderate pain/ achiness in my legs mostly that Tylenol was able to control. Ate 3 small meals yesterday, am able to sleep, waking up at 5 am for more Tylenol. Today I feel like I have a bit more energy. Poached eggs and toast w peanut butter for breakfast.
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I have learned so much about my friends and family over the last several weeks, since diagnosis. Many have become doctors without going to medical school; some know me better than I know myself; others simply don't think before they speak. In the end, I have had to remind myself that my breast cancer makes them uncomfortable; it forces them to realize they, too, could be at risk for a health "surprise." It makes them face my - and their - mortality. My breast cancer brings up emotions and fears in others that they would rather not face, or gives them reason to think, "Well, if it were me, this is what I would do..."
I am hurt by so many things people have said, but I work hard to let go of it because I know, in their hearts, they mean well, they love me, and they want me around for a long time. There are a few friends who have, and will, fall by the wayside because my breast cancer has become all about them, and I don't have the energy to deal with it. I think that's their loss.
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Wow...I feel really horrible that I am selfishly relieved that I am not alone in this. We calculated May 24th (without complications) to be the last session of Chemo..
.I do not want to be "Barb in a Bubble"!!
I mainly thought of everyone else's feelings and concerns through out the diagnosis and the operation, with my optimistic outlook..blah blah blah...I have no more in me to give them. I know that they want what is best for me, love me, and are scared themselves-I have awoken the fear in them that this could happen to their family or themselves...I also agree I will loose some over this and it is their loss. Here is a tidbit...some of my women friends have a problem, my men friends have been unbelievably supportive...One was so concerned before surgery that he told me not to be vain about my decision and to just "cut them off" I didn't need them and that was not why he loved me....I so liked the simple uncomplicated way he expressed himself...it made all the crossed and squiggley lines in their my head straighten right out.
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misslondon42,
I will think of you as we are starting the same day. I will be doing dose dense A/C every other week for 4 treatemtns then taxol/herceptin weekly for 12 weeks. Contuing the Herceptin every 3 weeks for a total of 1 year. Then I am lucky enough to start Tamoxifen for 5 years. I think I am having the book thrown at me. Anyone else triple positive starting in january with simiilar regimen?? Would love to have a chemo cyber buddy to connect with. PM me...
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oh yeah and rads after chemo too.... Don't want to miss out on that (sarcasm)...
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Hi everyone! I did 3/6 of my carbo, taxotere, herceptin cycles and had really bad side effects. My onc. and the tumor board recommended sandwiching my surgery in the middle of the chemo to give my body a break. Fortunately I had a great clinical response to the chemo (no more invasive cancer!). I opted to go aggressive with the surgery and had a NSBMX the beginning of December and will now be returning for the remainder of my chemo starting 1/4. I am hoping that the break will help my body be better able to face the chemo, since I had started the initial chemo when my body was still recovering from delivering my baby boy. I learned a lot thus far along the way but the biggest tip I can offer is to hydrate. I learned the hard way that I just didn't drink enough for my initial cycle, so I now go for fluid infusions and that has helped tremendously. I wish everyone the best of luck and know what a wonderful support my Sept. start ladies have been to me.
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I guess this is the group I should be in since I will be starting Chemo this month. I am deciding which treatment plan to take. I was actually given 2 different plans by 2 different Oncs. Either A/C *4 +T or T/C *4. Tonight I will be weighing pros and cons on the SEs of each and reading a lot...I am ready to get this ball rolling.
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day 3 after 1st chemo and feel crap. just tired and lousy 40o today so hubby and I at home,k
thank goodness for aircondtionng.
Went to see bubby boy zavier ( grandson) for l little while to cheer my self up
About to watch week 3 season 3 of Sons of Anarchy . We love it. Any one else into it ??
Had few mouth fulls of tea and breakfast and put on 4 kilos. boy do those steriods work or what. Wish I could send you a photo of my face ,don't know how to, will have to learn when I am feeling better.
bye for now Lynne
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Hi ladies. I began my first treatment on Dec 8 and post mostly on that thread, but wanted to say hello and wish all of you just beginning all the best as you progress through your journey. These boards have been so important and supportive to me in a way that family and friends couldn't possibly understand.
PCBarbie I am always taken aback by the "did they get it all", or those that ask my stage. I don't need their diagnosis. I will only share such detail with other women who have been or are going through their own journey. Btw I'm in Passaic county too.
CJRT I'm sorry you had to stop tx for surgery but you sound like you're doing well after surgery. I hope you breeze through the remainder of your treatments. I agree with the hydration being so important. My last tx I asked for an additional bag of saline and wasn't hit as hard and fast as my first tx. Right now I'm struggling with a sore mouth and I know I'm not drinking enough. Do you mind if I ask how often you go for fluid infusions?
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Momof2inMe-
I start a similar regimen the week of January 9th, I think. I believe AC x 4 every two weeks, then taxol x 4 every two weeks and at some point I'll begin herceptin every three weeks for a year then radiation x33 will begin and then tamoxifin for 5 years. I'll know more after my nurse visit on Friday. I have my port placement on Wednesday of this week. That procedure sounds kinda uncomfortable, at best. When do you start?
Angie -
hotlyn what drugs are steroids? I just got my packet of all the drugs and started reading the side effects and stopped. They seemed worse than the SE of the chemo. But I'm sure if I need them I'll take them. I'm starting on the 5th. Blech!
Peggy
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Am I the only old lady in this bunch so far? I'll be 69 in May.
Peggy
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ecpelkey, From all I've read, AC has the toughest side effects. If you are concerned with hair loss, I used Penguin Cold Caps and kept all of my hair.
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Kitchenella - The most common steroid used is Decadron. You're right about the SEs of the drugs to prevent SEs. Fortunately, I've been pretty lucky my first time around, except for some constipation. But if you take the drugs as suggested, you're better off. As for the nausea drugs, take it as soon as you feel queasy. Not sure whether it helped, but I used sea bands - the elastic bands you can wear to prevent sea sickness. It's just another weapon in my arsenal (and there are no SEs with them!) Good luck with your first tx. I'll be having my second that day.
And good luck to all those with first tx's this week.
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As advice for everyone, I would say - be proactive. Take the Decadron and Emend (for nausea - if they don't offer, ask for it, though apparently not all insurance covers it automatically) as directed, and if you still get nauseous, take the other medication(s) they give you. Stay hydrated. Start taking something to prevent constipation a few days before your treatment and keep using it. Use lip balm and moisterizer frequently. If your eyes feel dry, keep eye drops on hand (Refresh and Genteal are pretty good from what I've seen). If you feel sick or tired, don't push it. Your body needs rest. Take a nap or just take time off from work or whatever you're doing. Look into enzyme mouthwashes/toothpastes and start using them before your mouth starts weirding out. I've also been taking a tbsp of olive oil twice a day, and so far, on Day 21, I haven't yet lost my taste.
Everyone's different (sorry to use that hackneyed phrase), but when it comes to SE, no matter how much you read about everyone else, you never know what's going to come up behind you and knock you for a loop. When you see your onc, make sure they go over possible SEs and which ones you should call about. And in general, if you have anything unusual come up, definintely call and report it.
Wishing everyone minimal SEs as we head into January.
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rachelvk - how does olive oil keep you from losing your taste? I haven't started my treatments yet - I meet with MO on Wed, but I'm try to read up and get ready for whatever SE's I might be hit with. (I'm buying Biotene today.)
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I'm not sure - a friend who went through chemo and rads said her doctor had a theory and she tried it. She did lose her taste eventually, but it came back pretty quickly. I think it helps keep your mouth from drying out too much, and if nothing else, it's supposed to be good for your digestive track to keep things moving (another plus for those of us in chemo).
I started using Biotene from day 1, but since my mouth seems okay I've backed off a bit. There's also a Biotene toothpaste that I got.
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Going for a port tomorrow. Chemo can start anytime after. Surgery to follow in hopes of shrinking the tumor with chemo.
Looks like this is my group!
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Welcome, Colorado. And good luck. As a heads up, the port can be pretty uncomfortable at first, so keep plenty of Tylenol (or stronger) around. But it does get better, and it makes your infusions a snap.
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Hey racelvk- I have my port in on Wednesday afternoon. What are the odds that I will be able to attend a company meeting the next day? The meeting is about 35-40 miles from home. Thanks for any opinion.
Angie -
You should be okay - but plan to take some Tylenol and deal with some discomfort. If you have to drive, I'd suggest a little pillow or something else to put between you and the seatbelt (if you have to take Percocet or something else that strong, then you really shouldn't be driving). One of the worst parts for me was sitting up and laying down - the things you never realize your chest muscles help with! Good luck.
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NCbeachgal
I start chemo Jan. 9th. I had my port placed during my BMX surgery 11 days ago. It is still sore and a little swollen. Kinda glad I wasn't awayke for it. Good luck. Let us know how it goes and what day you'll be starting...
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Happy New Year Ladies. I have not posted to the site very much other than after my diagnosis. Since that time I have had the bilateral mastectomy with positive lymph nodes. I admit to a few pity parties but mostly have stayed positive and it has worked for me. I met with both local and Mayo Clinic oncologist and recommendation was the same- 4 A/C treatments, followed by 12 wks of Taxol, 32 radiation treatments and 5 years of hormone therapy. Sounded daunting but I am happy to report, I have successfully completed the first two A/C treatments (second last Thursday). While I can't say I felt like running a marathon, I did just fine and was able to have a wonderful holiday with my children and grandchildren, (including shooting hoops with my grandson). I have been paying a lot of attention to eating well, lots of organic veggies, hormone free meats, lots and lots of water, exercising, and yes napping too. But to those worried about life during chemo, I have been working full time and while a little tired- all ok. So please do not be afraid of what may be the best course of action for your potential cure. For me, it's just one more chapter. Take control (and yes, I did have to shave my own head last week) , stay positive, stay strong and you can do it!
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