A husband who has rendered me speechless

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It's been a hell of a year. BMX, reconstruction, Stage1 B BC, 8 dose dense ACT, all the while trying to be a mama and a good wife. On Tamox now , doing well. On Friday, had the port out, fat grafting from each thigh to my foobs, and major scar revision. Needless to say, I am so sore and so whipped today. I stll managed to throw on some clothes and manage a 45 minute visit to a party last night.

This morning i have no desire to move. Tired, sore , glad 2011 is over. My husband and I were talking about what a bad year this was, I am thinking it sucked becuase I had cancer, chemo nearlly killed me, I have had 5 surgeries, we lost our very dear family member to a very agressive and rare cancer, etc.....

He thinks it sucked because my time off from work effected us financially, even though I just had surgery two days ago I should have the house organized, I should have my son's trip to snowborad school today totally organized, I am not dieing, I mean really, he said, you need to learn to suck it up in 2012. Get some balls, get it together. Cancer is not an excuse anymore.

If I didn't have incision in both my thighs, my mast scar, my port remocal spot and where my fat was grafted above my right foob, I'd get up and kick his ass.

I am sorry, but I had to vent. Suck it up, grow some balls, no more cancer excuse????? Really???

Very hurt and frustrated.

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  • thatsvanity
    thatsvanity Member Posts: 391
    edited January 2012

    Wow!!!! Not very nice... I'm speechless too. Go in your bedroom and shut the door or the day, put on some head phones. Take a pain pill and go to sleep. Good lord!

  • thatsvanity
    thatsvanity Member Posts: 391
    edited January 2012

    Maybe he thinks that will solve everything...

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited January 2012

    those silly husbands

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2012

    Sorry you had to endure that. Sometimes the cancer patient isn't the only one who needs meds to cope. He's probably lashing out at the person he believes is "safe" to alleviate his pent up tension. Men can be sooooo insensitive. I hope he apologizes to you soon.

    HUGS!

    yorkie 

  • Eileenohio
    Eileenohio Member Posts: 460
    edited January 2012

    OMG.  Sorry but your husband sounds like real winner!!!  Maybe he is in denial about your illness. You and he really need to talk to a professional before his hurtful remarks destroy your marriage. Sending you a big cyber hug and wishing you a Happy Healthy New Year. If I could I would kick his a** for you.      Eileen

  • PLJ
    PLJ Member Posts: 373
    edited February 2012
  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited January 2012

    I'd like to kick him in the balls he supposedly has that I need a set of. I'm just stunned. He travels all the time for work, and I went through chemo basically by mysef(with friends and family, of course, but he can't understand what a hard time I had, he saw me on weekends) His mom and cousin both died before the age of 35 from cancer, so I guess in his eyes if you are not terminal, than your cancer is no big deal. I do not certainly want to be defined by it, but allowed to mourn it, realize it isn't really over and like ly will not be for a long time. i am out only 7 weeks pfc, and i think I am doing well. My husband thinks it is the flu and it is far from it! Thank you for your listening ears.

  • Druanne
    Druanne Member Posts: 295
    edited January 2012

    Sounds like he could be brothers with my husband :(.......so sorry you had to hear that.. My husband has a way of turning everything around to being all about him....

    Hugs

  • ALittleBitBritish
    ALittleBitBritish Member Posts: 627
    edited January 2012

    misswim,

    Your husband is Unbelieveable!!!

    I cannot understand how anyone can go cancer treatment and then have a husband say these things to you....Yell

    You are a courageous and brave lady with obviously a "huge" amount of self control. 

    Why not book yourself a relaxing massage or some treatment you would enjoy, take some time out for yourself. 

    Take care,

    Ali 

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited January 2012

    That is so wrong! I hope he apologizes on his own, but if not you need to let him know that what you have been through takes time to recover from and it would be great if you had his support. Is he helpless? He needs to organize the house and take care of you. You need to rest and heal from all this.

  • luv2trav
    luv2trav Member Posts: 39
    edited January 2012

    misswim

    Your husband sounds alot like mine.  Mine called me a fat, irritable,achy, moody depressed cow because of the side effects of the AI.  The positive person in me tries to remember that he is upset about all this too.  The other side of me? well I would like to kick him in the you know what.

    Hang in there....take time for yourself.  And come here to vent all you want.  (((((hugs)))))

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited January 2012

    hey misswim, your DH needs to man up and take care of you.  You've just had major surgery! 

    I've heard that, for every hour you're under anesthesia, your body needs a month of recovery time.  He's probably worried about you and doesn't know how to say so.  If he's like my DH, he wants you better and everything back to normal.  But it may never be like it was pre-BC. 

    Sorry he's being a butthead about this.  I let a lot of things slide around the house anymore and if it bothers my DH, he can run the vacuum himself (or whatever).  {{hugs}}

  • theBCavenger
    theBCavenger Member Posts: 313
    edited January 2012

    I think all of us would be happy to put a call in to him... email works too! 

    What is so amazing about all this? Most of us are not that surprised! Men can be the biggest babbies. They have know idea how strong us women are. If they had to spend just one day managing the things we do in our sleep... then throw some cancer on it! Oh yeah you men, we came to play and KICK SOME ASS!

    Chin up, you are not alone! 

  • gentianviolet
    gentianviolet Member Posts: 316
    edited January 2012

    Your husband sounds narcissistic and I would assume this is not the only time you have heard him speaking as if he were the only important person in the relationship.  I do not think narcissists ever really change long term but small superficial changes often occur.  If you google "Narcissistic symptoms" you may find yourself better able to deal with your husband. I am sorry that you have had this experience just when you are struggling to even out your life; his support would have been so meaningful to begin this New Year.  I am sending you good and healing thoughts for 2012, hang in there. 

  • Beebop
    Beebop Member Posts: 206
    edited January 2012

    Wow, sorry you have to deal with that. Is that out of character for him? May be his way of coping to take it out on you. I would certainly be having a discussion with him about why his comments are completely out of line.

  • jacee
    jacee Member Posts: 1,384
    edited January 2012

    I'm so sorry.

    Hurting people, hurt people.

  • bobkat
    bobkat Member Posts: 304
    edited January 2012

    misswim, I agree with druane are our husbands related?  My husband can be quite selfish also.  If my back hurts, his does to except much worse than mine.  If I have a cold he has a horrible sinus infection! The conversation always goes back to him.  I better look up narcissistic symptoms!  Men can be such babies.  Just ignore him for a few days, don't cook dinner or do any household chores and see how he likes that!  If he says something about it tell him the cleaning fairy must have missed your house!lol 

  • mrsnjband
    mrsnjband Member Posts: 1,409
    edited January 2012

    Some times my DH would say & do hurt full things.  I never treated him like that when he had cancer with 2 recurrences, This really bothered me because he wasn't taking care of me the way I took care of him. He got to stay home & sleep when he was in treatment, I worked throughout all my treatments except the bi-lateral DIEP.

    During chem & rads I finally refused to do the dishes or pick up the house. He would say something hurtful & I would say why do you have to be so mean. He finally started carrying more of the load which he still does a lot of it still. I think he finally realizes that treatment & side effects effect my ablility to do things I used to do.

    While I am ragging on my DH, I do have to admit that I couldn't have made it through everything without him. He does try harder to take care of me. I sure he is hurting and afraid but can't express his feelings they way he should. So he lashes out at you.  

    Sorry I can't reach through the computer and straighten him out.  

    So I am sending you lots of love & support. NJ 

  • Scooter-12
    Scooter-12 Member Posts: 33,398
    edited January 2012

    I'm so sorry, as if you didn't have enough going on.  Grow some balls...REALLY...maybe you ought to snip his. 

  • SoCalLisa
    SoCalLisa Member Posts: 13,961
    edited January 2012

    Sounds like it is always "all about him"..so sorry you have to deal with this

    toxic person..

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited January 2012

    Might be worth telling him to "grow some brass ones" and start treating you properly - who the HELL does he think he is - I too wish I could reach through the computer and straighten him out - suggest you "go on strike" until he apologizes.

    Big hugs, Sandy

  • memory
    memory Member Posts: 106
    edited January 2012

    I wish I could kick his $#@ for you.

     My husband wasn't exactly a prince when I was recovering, but then he was recovering from a life-threatening illness himself and was severely depressed.

    I wish I had some advice for you. Is there anyone in your life, non-cyber, who can provide more support than he does?

  • Jelson
    Jelson Member Posts: 1,535
    edited January 2012

    misswim,

    it sounds like he was assigning YOU some new years resolutions. Ask Him, what about his? how is he going to improve himself (you need to lose weight??? what about him?) get your act together? what about him? are there areas in which he can improve being a husband and a father?? oh and something that frosts me, you were thinking about the way the year sucked - that which happened, he was thinking about the way YOU SUCKED.

    sheesh

    Focus on making this a Happy and Healthy Year!

  • chrissilini
    chrissilini Member Posts: 313
    edited January 2012

    That really stinks. It's been difficult enough for you then to tell you to suck it up? How insensitive! I wonder if, when we start to get back to our new normal ,they think it's all over for us. I have been very strong since dx, it's only been a month and a half for me. My partner has been extremely supportive but I notice already I have to ask for help with some things when 2 weeks ago I didn't. I don't think anyone that isn't going through what we are has a clue. Be good to yourself. Don't put up with the bs. He needs to get over himself. 2011 wasn't a picnic. It sucked. I hope it is a better one for all of us.



    Treat yourself to something nice! Prayers and hugs to you.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited January 2012

    Men get weird when they don't have any control over things, like bc.  Sounds like 2011 was out of control as far as he was concerned, and this was his attempt to declare to the universe (through you) that he hasn't totally lost control.  Also, getting dressed and going to a party (albeit even for 45 mins.), could have sent a mixed message -- like "I'm well enough to go out when I want to" -- because he missed the subtlety that you were making an extraordinary effort for him.

    I'd definitely let him know how hurt you were by what he said.  Chances are he either already knows or hasn't got a clue, but either way I think he needs to be told that while you understand some of his concerns (like the financial thing you acknowledged), you are not fully recovered yet and won't be for awhile, and the bullying and mean words were extremely hurtful and not the least bit helpful.  Best to have it out with him (IMO, if it comes to that), because continuing to dwell on what happened without confronting him won't be good for your health.   (((Hugs)))  Deanna

  • Lyn1n
    Lyn1n Member Posts: 33
    edited January 2012

    I am so sorry you had to go through that.  You must be feeling so sad and hurt.  I feel hurt for you.  I will say a prayer for you!   Your husband.  The whole situation.  He obviously is worried about finances but that is no excuse for him to lose his bedside manners.  He may need to talk to a professional to get the priorities in his mind straight...where they should be?  I know even dear husbands can have *boob* moments.  HUGS so much and dont let his words play over and over in your mind hon as it will have a negative impact on your recovery and your relationship.  You need a heart to heart with him and tell him how you feel in a quiet and honest non accusatory way.  Let us know how you are as we all care and you have friends here no matter what. xo hugs to you and dont apologise for venting as that is what we are here for.  =)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2012

    If your husband lost his mom when she was 35, he must have been pretty young at the time. I can't imagine what that loss must have been like. 

    Not to make excuses for him, but I wonder how much of his craptastic behavior today was based on his really WANTING and NEEDING you to be "over this" and "better" ASAP. I get the sense he'd like to drop your "non-terminal" cancer deep down the memory hole, far away, where he won't have to think about it ever again, and can then he can avoid the fear of losing you the way he lost his mom.

    I am sure that seeing you at your worst - physically depleted, bald, exhausted, and with a million aches and pains -- is bringing back all sorts of undealt-with emotional baggage and hard-core FEAR for him. He must have seen his mom go through all of that, too, and the outcome was really horrible -- probably too horrible to deal with unless he had good counseling.

    As any married woman can tell you, men can be pretty dense about their own feelings, and they can go to some pretty awful lengths to avoid acknowledging them. They can be especially averse to expressing pain, fear, and loss, since those are all things that make them feel weak. Some men will go to great lengths not to hurt inside or be afraid, including being jerks and blaming other people for their problems, since the resulting fights take the emphasis off their own issues.

    It's possible your husband has no idea why your cancer is p*ssing him off so badly; he just desperately needs it to go away.

    Obviously, this doesn't help YOU, since you are in need of support right now, but here is one thing that may bring some healing. If you can calm your own hurt and anger enough to do it, try feeling a mother's tender compassion toward the young boy or adolescent your husband once was, imagining what he must have gone through when he lost the most important woman in his life to cancer.

    Imagine him sobbing alone in his room, as his world rocked and spun and crashed around him. Imaging putting your arms around him in comfort, and how alone and lost he must have felt. That scared, lonely, hurting, crying little boy is who you should try to see when you think of the great big grown man who just lashed out at you.

    If a tiny kitten hissed at you, or even bit and scratched you, you would not take it personally, but realize it is acting from a place of being scared and small and just trying to seem tough. I try to remember that we are all like that tiny kitten when life makes us re-live scary places where we once were small and hurting.

    I know that what you most need now is for your husband to comfort you, and to tell you how much he hurt you. And then to reassure you that everything is going to be all right. But Jesus in his wisdom told us that whenever we think of what we most want people to do for us, we should turn around and do exactly that for them.

    If you can swallow your pride and set your pain to the side, this strategy really does provide healing. I say "if" because it is a very tall order to find it within yourself to comfort when you want to be comforted, and to forgive when you want to be apologized to. But nowhere is this approach more healing than in a fight with your husband. Unfortunately, I know this firsthand because I am the poster child for hurt feelings and endless agonized days of misery, pain, bitterness, anger, and silence, and I only just now learning to take baby steps along that healing path.

    I know this has been a long post, but I want to end by wishing you love and light on this difficult journey. Your BCO sisters are here supporting you all the way and sending warmest thoughts of healing, along with unlimited willingness to listen and provide sympathy. What you can't get from your husband right now, try getting get from us and your other girlfriends and family for a few days until your husband gets back in a safe place where he can provide you with the love you need.

  • 1WonderWoman
    1WonderWoman Member Posts: 2,065
    edited January 2012

    I would like to tell you all I am single, never married, no kids and after the horrifying stories I have heard about "husbands (in the loosest sense)" through my own battle, I am very, very happy I do not have one.   My sister just told me her BIL left his wife.  It was not until she called her (they are not close and live in NV, sis in CT) she found out she is Stage III and he was totally not supportive at all through her whole battle so finally she threw him out. 

    When strong enough I would seriously consider how you want to spend the rest of your life.  He can't be so anesthetized that he is not aware what he is doing.  My sister's SIL said he was a total curmudgeon which eventually forced her to kick him out.  He manipulated her, under all the stress she is going through already, to kick him out.   I am sorry you had to find out now but better now than never I suppose.  *NEVER* apologize for venting...that is what we are here for!   If it weren't for these boards I am not sure how many would survive this battle.

    You need to ask yourself what kind of monster can be mean to someone with cancer/in a cancer battle?   There is a cruelty there that cannot be explained. 

  • deborye
    deborye Member Posts: 7,002
    edited January 2012

    DH= Dear Husband or DICK HEAD!!!  Most of the time my choice is DICK HEAD!!!

  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited January 2012

    I don't quite know what to do....... I've been trying to have an adult discussion with him about this all day. He does not think he is wrong. He thinks I use my cancer as an excuse. I am working out again, so he he figures that that means I must feel good. Well, I am doing it to help feel better and to help prevent reoccurance. His family member just died of a rare glandular cancer- 7 weeks start to finish. I didn't experience that suffering because I never was in pain from mu illness, just the treatment. Yet another reason I need to get over it. Currently he is moaning as he has to do his own laundry to go away for work.my incisions are small, not like I'll hurt them or anything. I'd like to kick his ass to the serious curb. I am so pissed off toght now. grrrrrrrrrr

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