Whey protein, ER positive and tamoxifen

hi there..i have no idea about the whey protein,,but now you have me thinking about it...if you find anything let me know.....

i found another thing in horror today,,,i have always bough organic eggs and meats etc...anyway,,reading on the egg package,,the organic farm feeds their chickens soy and flax products..so now i am thinking...am i supposed to avoid eggs and chicken too.....???

sheesh....

kosh

Whey protein is a milk byproduct - it has no soy.

Breast cancer caught me in the middle of a lifestyle cleanup, so I had been reading like mad about balancing carbs-proteins-fats, and keeping insulin regular, and how exercise affects your metabolism right up until I switched to reading madly about the requirements of breast cancer.

I did some investigating by contacting info hot lines for some of the food supplement companies - Medifast said that they recommend that customers who should not eat soy should use whey based supplements.

I also talked to Kashi - most of their products include soy lechithen. They seem pretty concerned about the whole soy thing -  I ended up talking to someone about how they process their soy, which they claim is much better than the standard way of processing soy, and takes out most of the elements that are supposed to be bad for BC.

I've given up on eggs - my dietician says that eating cage free eggs where the chickens are fed Omega 3s is about as good as I'm going to get - that when an animal eats soy, the soy byproducts don't stay in their bodies, as far as she can tell. But she recommends any kind of eggs over tofu as a protein for BCers.

I don't know if this helps - we can't seal ourselves into a bubble.

Right now, I'm just trying to eat as many organic veges as I possibly can, and exercise every day.

I meet with a natropath and she has really helped me with this all. I have individually contacted farms and have now found that I buy only from local farmers where I can see and  talk to them.

My inlaws have chickens so I am good with the eggs and chickens... but you have to be careful

I have been following a dairy free diet following the advice of Jane Plant from 'Your life in your hands' book.  I have mentioned this in other threads as I am surprised how many people in America with breast cancer are still eating dairy but are worried about soy.  This book advocates quite the opposite no dairy and lots of miso, tofu etc.  This is so confusing.

I have also lost weight although only half of your weight loss.  In my case it was welcome.  I eat bread and rice with vegetables (always wholemeal), nuts and seeds of all kinds have a lot of calories.  Today I bought artichoke pate which was delicious and based on olive oil.  Avocado has a lot of calories and is delicious as well as nutritious.  I will read up more and post some recepies but have just started a new job and am rather busy so it may take a while.

I am wondering about shakes by visalus sciences...the first ingredient is soy protien isolate...is this not safe? 

Thanks Balsie 

I was on a smoothie making kick for the past year using an organic non gmo soy protein powder that Cost Co sold with my Vitamixer. I thought I was doing myself some good taking in all those good vegies and fruit smoothies. By the end of the year my fibroids were giving me a lot of problems after having about 8 years of no problems following a myomectomy. I went to get all of my physicals due to my concern over the fibroids. Turns out my fibroids were the least of my worries cause now I have BC. I think the high doses of soy protein and all those Isoflavens stimulated not only my fibroids but this E+ BC. MY advice is to avoid soy. They say as long as you dont have a history of BC in your family it should be ok ......but 85% or so of newly diagnosed BC are non family related. I thought I was safe.

You can also use rice or hemp protein powders, sold in most natural or health food stores.

One MO that I saw said to avoid dairy if you're ER positive.  In fact, to avoid dairy anyway - he's from a country where people don't drink cow's milk.  Anyway, whey is from dairy, so I looked hard to find non-day, non-dairy shakes.  I prefer real whole foods too, but need a shake as a back up for a quick meal.  I've seen hemo, rice & pea protein.  Also found a vegan tropical shake called Shakeology.  Really good!

I just read here that flax is not good for breast cancer???  I've been taking flax everyday since my BMX...why is flax bad????

I second that. I had heard that flax was good for bc as well. So is it not?!?

http://foodforbreastcancer.com/foods/flaxseed